Coward.
Jason Lees, a popular private school teacher and successful international rugby referee, his wife Danielle Cara Sutton, a psychologist. Their two-year-old son a normal, well-adjusted boy.
Their seemingly happy life together makes it even harder to understand what could have driven Mr Lees to take his son to Brisbane’s Story Bridge in the early hours of yesterday, throw him over the edge, before jumping himself.
It was the second murder-suicide involving a parent and child at the city landmark in just five months.
To murder your child in such a horrific way makes me want to believe hell is real and it has a special place for cunts like this.
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I wouldn’t characterise whatever mental state pushed him to this point as cowardice.
What an asshole. Seriously. Topping yourself is cowardly enough but to take your two year old son with you? That’s sickening.
That poor child.
I feel for the family that he’s selfishly left behind.
What he did is many things, but cowardly isn’t one of them.
I have no idea what pushed him (or what pushes anyone) to this point. Mental illnesses can be more insidious and diabolical than anything we can dream up. Try and imagine what must have been going through his mind to make him think that killing his son and then himself was the best option he had at the time. I bet you can’t.
I think suicide is the ultimate statement of desperation. Forcibly taking a childs life is murder.
People in conflicts are usually not thinking clearly and can feel they have no other option but suicide to maximise the hurt to the third party (his wife I presume). Killing his son at the same time would be a way to increase the level of hurt to the other party.
Lifeline and other crisis counselling services do a very good job in helping people who are desperate. They can help with alternatives. A much better way to go for all concerned.
My title is being controversy. But honestly it is the kindest title I can give. I have no problem with the guy killing himself. If he wants out, he wants out. But to throw a baby off a bridge, the utter horror put on this innocent kid by the person who is meant to protect him. I find that disgusting and abhorrent.
It smacks of those recent fuckers who killed their kids to get back at their partners. That is a cowardly act. And that is what I meant in the title. Not being a coward for killing himself. But for murdering a baby. I am not sure of why he did it. But the fact is he murdered his baby.
Yep; as far as I have read (admittedly from a media sources, not from proper published papers), in almost all cases like this, the murder of a child by the father is an act of aggression and control against the mother. However that is for dads murdering children – not sure about murder suicide.
(I believe, oddly enough, the typical murder of a child by the mother is much more likely to be a ‘real’ case of mental illness, and the murder is likely to be caused by their inability to understand how the child could live without themselves.)
So – possibility exists the guy was properly mentally ill, and this is just a horrible tragedy. But the fact he had just split from his wife – statistically points to the likelihood, he is indeed, a cunt.
Don’t blame the father, RnB confused him. We should ban RnB for it’s misleading lyrics, confusing acts of love to that of murder.
Also for being pretty much universally shite.
Hey guys.
Thought I’d put this up here. Hopefully as some clarification about Jason. Jason was a good friend of mine. He was a fantastic bloke and the kind of guy who everyone turned to when things got rough. I knew him from uni and we played rugby together. What happened yesterday was a complete shock to me and my circle of friends. No one knew he and his wife were having issues. In fact, only 3 weeks ago, another mate of mine had a BBQ picnic with him and his family and he said he saw no signs. It just goes to show how awful the blackness of depression can be. I know the media will probably go on a witch hunt and people on forums will call him horrible names but I just want to put it out there that this wasn’t the normal behaviour from your typical scumbag. This was a horrible act perpetrated by the guy who was always smiling and would give you the shirt off his back. I just know how much he loved little Brad and my partner and I spent about 5 hours last night crying and wondering why. Why would someone do this? What goes through the head of someone when they make their mind up? Why didn’t he reach out to help? As a group of friends, we are angry that Jason not only chose this way to leave the world but to also take his beautiful little boy. We don’t know the full story yet but one thing is certain, no one knew he was having any issues. Issues with his wife or mental issues. He was a normal bloke. A school teacher and a rugby union referee who toured the world officiating games.
As a father of two awesome little boys, I can’t even begin to comprehend his actions. I just want to make sure that maybe in some way I can stop it from happening to other people. There is always help. Even when you are in your darkest days, there is always someone there. Please, talk to your friends. Ask them if they are okay and if they need help. This silent killer is a cunt of an affliction.
Thanks
Andy.
How could he be anything other than mentally ill? If he was simply evil and wanted his estranged wife to suffer, then why would he kill himself as well? That makes no sense at all.
The guy needed psychiatric care. This is a terrible tragedy.
La la la la la la la la…not in my world… LALALALALALAALALALAALAAA fuck!
I did say that I wasn’t sure how the standard model of children being killed by fathers fits with murder suicides like this… and point taken, you may well be right, and this guy was very very depressed and not responsible for his actions.
However, it is not always the case even with father/child murder suicides that the father is strictly mentally unwell – some are apparently just out to cause the maximum amount of grief and suffering to their ex-partners. They then take the easy way out rather than face the music.
A read for the topic:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/obsessive-love-lost-why-some-fathers-kill-20110517-1eri9.html
I certainly hope this isn’t taken as being insensitive, but it crossed my mind as maybe somewhat of an explanation (NOT JUSTIFICATION) for what could’ve driven someone to this. Was he the real father? They were having trouble as a couple and by the sounds of how nice this guy was, that could be just the slap in the face needed. Might have felt detached enough from the young boy to do such a horrible thing.
Really sorry to hear that Andy. Hope everyone affected can find some sort of peace.
As a father, I look at dead-beat dads and realise that those guys are the worst fathers. They are selfish, ignore their children and fail to live up to their responsibilities. In my wildest dreams I couldn’t imagine abandoning my own children like that.
Then I see stories like this and see loving fathers who have had a meltdown and have ended up in the most tragic of situations and I can understand how they happen. For the past decade or so, I have been dealing very closely with several family members who are suffering from different mental illnesses. Whilst I don’t understand how the illnesses work, I have seen the effects that they have on people.
Depression is probably the most insidious illness that one can suffer. I have seen it turn the most amazing people into suicidal wrecks who, somehow, have the impression that they are a burden on everyone and need to kill themselves in order to stop their family suffering. This is in spite of the fact that their family loves them and is not suffering at all, except through sympathy and empathy for their ill loved one.
Again I ask how this sort of behaviour can be considered as anything other than that of a mentally unstable person? If the father was a bad man to begin with, then maybe, but not when he was a good, dependable and loving dad.
Yes. He was the real father.
Bridge buy-back time.
Poor bloke aside, now they are going to fuck up the bridge by putting some sort of ‘safety cage’ on it.
making the fence higher isnt going to stop suicide. noone has accidentally fallen off the Storey bridge and thousands cross it each day on foot. If you cant jump off the Story bridge you’re just going to have to pick one of the other 8 or so bridges along the river. and when they ‘protect’ all of them you can always toss yourself off the Kangeroo Pt Cliffs.
A fence is not going to stop suicide. Focus on the real issue.
Almost word for word what I assumed would happen, and what I thought about it too.
Knee-jerk, money wasting cocks.
Depression can make the most impossible thoughts appear logical and reasonable and, in this case, doable. People can get very, very adept at hiding it and playing happy families. Mental illness is the only explanation I can attribute to this gut-wrenching tragedy, even though that does not fully explain why someone would take their child over the edge with them.
In my experience, the depressed person is consumed and other people are in their periphery, usually not in the foci. Maybe he thought he was protecting the child from greater evil? But it’s likely there may never be any explanation. I hope the family and friends find some sort of peace, somehow.
I used to live in a building near that bridge. I actually found a suicider one day – found the body, very surreal experience. The incident kept following me too – by complete chance met (months later) the cab driver who took him home the night he killed himself, met a nurse who attended him a few weeks before he killed himself (that was about 6 months later)… Freaky shit. The people who managed our complex said that a few weeks before he jumped two girls had jumped from the Storey Bridge in tandem holding a photo of a guy they’d been both rejected by; the media gave it no coverage oc course. It seems to be pretty common around there.
My sincerest condolences Andy, I too know the pain of suicide all too well, good luck in the coming days, weeks and years.
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