spray painting/rust removal

[pliskin]

im looking for any suggestions/experience ppl may have with rust removal/spray painting. any help would b appreciated? basic price to respray a car? can any1 suggest a good panel beater/spray painter?
what he situation is my car is coming up for rego in 4 months and it is starting to get a bit of rust. as im still paying off the loan on the car, im trying to work out how much money i will have to spend on rust removal and the subseqent respraying/ versus the cost of just writing the money off as a waste . some of it is surface rust, some of it is a few small holes

[Salted_Chipmunk]

Surface rust is easy, just wet and dry it using some fine, and extremely fine grit paper.

A full respray can cost thousands depending on how you want to do it.

If you are doing it for registration purposes, i'd suggest just getting the parts that are rusted repsrayed, or is the paint as a whole in a sad state of affairs???

If you sand down the parts that are going to be resprayed, that can save you some money, as the PB will just prime it and spray.


If your going repray, i suggest against the way that some fool did in my area.

VB commodore new respray using spray cans!!!!!

great for that layered look :D

[rickbitch]

it really depends on how much you care about the car.

You could sand it back yourself, get the rust out with a wire brush attachement on a grinder, and then bog it (with iron filings in the bog so that a magnet can stick to it). quick respray with primer, and a near-enough top coat, and it will be roadworthy. there is no law that states that a car must be exactly the same colour all over. This would be the cheapest option.

The mid level option would be to take it to a panel beaters, get him to sandblast the rust (much better way of doing it) and welding up the holes, then the respray.

Of course the high-level option would be to get it totally resprayed, and that'll cost a couple of grand. If you plan on keeping the car for another 10 years AT LEAST, this is the best way to go.

[Salted_Chipmunk]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

wot rick said :D

[C0V3R]

Theres one step between ricks low and mid - that is having a friend with a mig to weld in a small patch panel and then to beat it out as best as possible followed by a little bog.

If you go for the low end option, I have a few suggestions to add to ricks good advice. After using a wire brush to remove as much rust as possible (and if possible on *both* sides of the panel) spray a rust neutraliser (usually contains phosphoric acid, avail at most car parts/accessories shops or spray paint wholesalers/retailers), then apply POR 15 (http://www.por15.com/) rust preventative paint to the affected area.

This stuff is excellent, and is used by people in the US who restore cars that have been exposed to salted roads. If you cant get your hands on por15, either use a rust preventative primer or an etch primer folowed by a sealing primer for best results.

This can then have bog applied to it. My preference in bog (if it has to be used) is to use metal impregnated fibre glass re enforced stuff, this may be the stuff rick was on about. It is much better and considerably stronger than normal bog, but can be harder to sand. It will often need a soft layer of spray putty or one part thin body filler to smooth it out before priming/painting. It should be let set for as long as you can afford to reduce imperfections in the surface prior to final sanding.

Final sanding should be done with a hard wooden block as large as possible using ~6-800 grit paper.

Then prime the area, spray putty, and paint.

[DrDivad]

these tips are handy, aws i have some rust/panel beating/painting jobs to do that need to be done for minimal cost :)


one on a guard, (fucken the one i replaced too) and the other on drivers door (godamn opened door on a slope and it fell open and klonged a wall)