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Fuzzy Dice
05-08-2003, 03:45 PM
so many little things that get to me......

Irregardless - wouldn’t that be the OPPOSITE of regardless? Wouldn’t that mean regarding or with regard to? And since these terms already exist, what possible reason could there be for the existence of this word (and ones like it)? I blame ignorant people and the extreme fucktard-hood of the media for allowing the propagation of this word to continue. I mean, Christ all-fucking mighty, my spellchecker doesn’t even recognize this word. Which means that someone at Microsoft who writes code for the spell checking system thinks that irregardless is a real word. And that scares me like you wouldn’t believe.

Supposably - it’s supposedly, god damn it.

Inflammable - Flammable means you can start things on fire.
Inflammable is the French version. Not the English one. Jesus Jumping Christ. In English, wouldn’t inflammable mean that you would be unable to cause something to take flame?

Unthaw - “I’m going to unthaw this meat.” So....you’re putting it back in the freezer then? Thawing things makes them less frozen. THEREFORE.....if unthaw is the opposite of thaw, and it would have to by the addition of the “UN” prefix....then it means make things less not-frozen. Freezing, if you will.

PHRASE FUCK-UPS -
Off of - Not so much a word as an unnecessary pairing of words. “Get off that.” “Get off of that.” Means exactly the same thing. Why fire that extra ‘of’ in there?

I seen - Oh for the love of fuck-me in the goat-ass. I. Have. Seen. I have seen. The more common contraction also interjects quite nicely - I’ve seen. We have seen. We’ve seen. This also applies to the word been. I have been. I’ve been. What on earth is wrong with you people?

We done - OH MY FISH. How FNORDING hard is it to toss that teeny tiny little ‘ve in there? We’ve done. We have done! It’s a minor flick of the tongue and a teeny little jaw movement coming together to produce that little syllable. What? You object? We slowly, slowly evolved the altered palate and jaw structure that allow us to form the insanely wide range of complex sounds that we can, at the increased risk of choking, mind you. The least you could do is try to use it. Hmm? Is that so all-fired difficult? You do know that we came from monkeys, right? And you’re similarly aware of the factoid that monkeys can’t talk? (with regular speech. Yes, they can be taught sign language which is a very expressive and powerful form of communication. Fuck off, I’m not looking to offend sign language proponents.) Neato.

And that brings us to simple pronunciation of many words that the Canadian Broadcasting Corportation is for some reason determined to alter (read - alter = fuck royally).
Harassment - pronounced with short A’s. You know - Harr-ASS-ment. Not hair-ace-ment. I actually heard a guy call in on a talk show and give the host what for about this. It was the most satisfying moment I have ever spent listening to the CBC. Not that I’ve spent many moments listening to the CBC, mind you. But it’s happened. When the music stations overplay that one (or ten) song(s) one too many times, it’s time for a switch. Besides, I really should pay more attention to Canadian news anyway.

Hey, wait....WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH RADIO STATIONS? Why must they play like ten songs four or five times a day each? I swear to god, if I hear “seven nation army” one more time I’m just going to twink right the fuck out.. Yes, I am aware that dj’s are limited to the block of songs that are purchased for them by the station, because of the royalties that must be paid to artists. If they changed it up a little more, they’d have more regular listeners and advertisers dollars would be better spent on that station, so they could more than make up for the cost of royalties. Rawlco just hoovers left nut. (rawlco owns all our local statons).

Film - Yes, film. Doesn’t seem that hard does it? And yet: ‘fillum’. My English teacher in high school affected this in her speech, I think she thought it sounded erudite. (erudite means ‘learned’ you know, smart people talk). And yet....behind her back.... we called her ‘grandma gang bang.’ She was from the town she came back to teach in. She was a baaaaad girl in high school.

Column - Much like film, some people mangle this word so that it comes out ‘colume’. I know kids. I’m scared too.

Aluminum - Ok, this one isn’t the CBC, this one is the British, who for some unknown reason insist on pronouncing aluminum with an extra ‘I’ crammed in the rectum of this poor word. That’s right: ‘aluminium’. The hell? Be gone, you vowel shaped ass-plug.

Schedule - ‘skedule’. Not ‘shedule.’ How hard is this?

Peace. I'm out.:D

Fuzzy Dice
05-08-2003, 03:55 PM
aussie? I'm canadian! ZED, ZED, MOTHERFUCKING ZED!

AMERICANISMS -
Z - That simple little letter. ZED, goddammit. Not Zee. Eat me you cocky bastards. :D

Roof - how is this one spelled? R-o-o-f. That seems like something, you know, incredu-fucking-ly easy. Not ruff.

Semi - “semme - eeee” not ‘semme - I’

Cassa
05-08-2003, 04:02 PM
You, sir, are my new hero.

(btw because I'm an assbackward aussie, it is, in fact aluminIum)

Tomsy
05-08-2003, 04:02 PM
Use of apostrophes.

You're an idiot.

Your language skills make you an idiot.

If you have to spend an extra second or two saying your sentence out loud before writing please do so.

And shortening/murdering words to send a text message is also a pet hate.

oracle
05-08-2003, 04:26 PM
It's a site run by Aussies, so as far as I'm aware it's ZED-GEEK.

Of course, one of my pet hates would also be the "Americanization" of the English language.... You know, the English launguage, ie. spoken by the English people... As in: It came from England.

You take English terms, change the spelling of the word (eg. colour) and then act as if that's the correct way to spell it!

I'm not being anti-American, but this changing of spelling from English to... well English, makes no sense to me.

Eds
05-08-2003, 04:30 PM
When Americans say "I could care less" when they really mean "I COULDN'T care less". One of the many Americanisms that shits me up the wall.

Al
05-08-2003, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Fuzzy Dice
aussie? I'm canadian! ZED, ZED, MOTHERFUCKING ZED!

You are a bitter, bitter man. Nice work.

My pet hate? Words that Americans have murder so they look like they sound...

That and the use of Z in words where there was an S...

*sigh*

CMYK
05-08-2003, 05:20 PM
Inflammable is the adjective.

It is perfectly correct English.

Al
05-08-2003, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by Weatherman
And another one (that ocker Aussies are usually guilty of):

How about the plural of you, as in yous.

What are yous up to?

DIE!

SamBo
05-08-2003, 05:25 PM
people who say "are" instead of "our".
grrr.........

BtrFly
05-08-2003, 05:30 PM
how about "newclear" instead of NUCLEAR, or "Os-trayl-ya" instead of Australia??????
HOW BLOODY ANNOYING!!!! learn to speak clearly and enunciate!

SamBo
05-08-2003, 05:38 PM
oh yeah, i forgot to mention that I wanna stab people who say things such as ATM Machine and PIN Number.... GRRRRR!!!!! :mad:

Tomsy
05-08-2003, 05:48 PM
H = aitch

You only show your westy/catholic upbringing saying Haitch.

druckfugged
05-08-2003, 05:48 PM
Defence. I think i'd actually enjoy basketball, but it grates to hear the commentator pronounce the word like it was two, and with appalling regularity. I think it's because Americans are a bit leery of the word 'attack' , and use the word 'offense' instead, and turn it into two words with big round vowels to further punctuate the fact that they are in fact watching a sporting competition and not the six o'clock news.

Al
05-08-2003, 06:01 PM
Like default, the two sweetest words in the english language (courtesy of Homer)

oracle
05-08-2003, 06:05 PM
Haha... Just about every customer I speak to sees "Default Connection" on their screen and asks me what's wrong with their connection... Fucking dolts!

gamooma
05-08-2003, 06:07 PM
Ain't.

Ain't annoys the shit out of me. Also when people use double negatives, like "I never did nothing!" If you NEVER did NOTHING that implies that you did something.

My worst nightmare is someone using a double negative that involves the (so called) word ain't.

sperm
05-08-2003, 06:09 PM
Not sure if its been posted already (yes, im lazy).

Someone referring to "SMS message" ... what do they think the 'M' stands for ??

Tintin
05-08-2003, 06:15 PM
It's 'AS I SAID', not 'LIKE I SAID', moron. :D

Fuzzy Dice
05-08-2003, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by gamooma
Ain't.

Ain't annoys the shit out of me. Also when people use double negatives, like "I never did nothing!" If you NEVER did NOTHING that implies that you did something.

My worst nightmare is someone using a double negative that involves the (so called) word ain't.

We ain't never been here before!

Al
05-08-2003, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by sperm
Someone referring to "SMS message" ... what do they think the 'M' stands for ??

I think you can technically get away with that, SMS describes the service doesn't it? Hence an SMS message is a message sent via SMS. Either way...

edit: spelling

Movius
05-08-2003, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by sperm
Not sure if its been posted already (yes, im lazy).

Someone referring to "SMS message" ... what do they think the 'M' stands for ?? No one has posted it because it is an entirely appropriate phrase. Firstly because sending services is generally a poor means of communication, secondly it is useful to clarify the type of message being sent, thirdly SMS is a very common abbreviation (Satellite Management Service, Shared Memory System, Sega Master System can be abbreviated to SMS for example) and this assists in narrowing down the possible meanings.

sperm
05-08-2003, 06:34 PM
SMS = short message service

http://dret.net/netdret/docs/draft-wilde-sms-service-04.html

so that would make it "short message service message", hmmmmm


Thankfully it is more popular to refer to SMS as 'text' or 'text-ing' tho.

Naiad
05-08-2003, 07:02 PM
The original English pronuciation is "shedule". "Skedule" is an Americanisation. I personally think it's a tough call...Afterall, no one calls it a Ch-emist or a ch-asm, they a "kemists" and "kasms" and I'm pretty certain we're also looking at "skism" as being correct...But, then you have to remember that English is Germanic in origin and then there are people like Michael Schumaker making it all very difficult to pick what is best. :confused:

I have too many pet language hates to begin describing them all here, so I will start with one which I managed to catch everybody's favourite Dr. Phil spew forth in his Texas Drawl yesterday (it was a bank holiday and I watched some daytime TV - fuck off):

Expectancies. Used in the context: "What are your expectancies from this relationship?"

Here's an English lesson for you, Phil (and remember you naughty Americans, Canadians AND Australians - you are all attempting to speak "English", so as much as you want to go and mangle them, you can't argue with original English spelling and usage):

The word is "Expectations"...Try it with me - Ex-pec-ta-tions...It is the plural of "Expectation"...

The word expectancies, no doubt comes from the term "Life expectancy", which is - interestingly enough - the ONLY FUCKING USE FOR THIS SINGULAR WORD and THAT is why no one has bothered to pluralise it.

Oh and for those who wondered, Dr. Phil was shit. He is a very charismatic man, but his show was crap, full of half-wit Opera rejects (and THAT'S bad) and he should fuck off back into obscurity...It was the first and only time I'll be watching it...

Al
05-08-2003, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Bifrost
Oh and for those who wondered, Dr. Phil was shit.

Without having seen Dr. Phil's show I'd have to agree it sucked. Why? Dr. Phil.

Deimos
06-08-2003, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by BtrFly
how about "newclear" instead of NUCLEAR, or "Os-trayl-ya" instead of Australia??????
HOW BLOODY ANNOYING!!!! learn to speak clearly and enunciate!

Did you mean "Nu-cu-lar" instead of "Nuclear" - I have noticed that George Dubya says that and it irritates the shit out of me!!!

kleph
06-08-2003, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by Fuzzy Dice
We ain't never been here before!

and you won't hear me not complaining.

Nandragon
06-08-2003, 01:47 AM
Shit!

It's Ya'll ain't never been there before.

My all time favorite

Ya'll going off?

it's Al co hal, not alky hal

and ShrimP, not shrimpS or skrimps

kleph
06-08-2003, 02:00 AM
which leads us to that classic southern conundrum - which is the proper pronunciation of the capitol of louisiana: new or-lee-ans or new awl-ins?

utopian
06-08-2003, 02:03 AM
Paging all ProGrammars to this thread.

Cassa
06-08-2003, 02:17 AM
I exploded already.

utopian
06-08-2003, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by kleph
which leads us to that classic southern conundrum - which is the proper pronunciation of the capitol of louisiana: new or-lee-ans or new awl-ins?
Isn't it just "Norlens"?

Nandragon
06-08-2003, 02:53 AM
I like the way New Awlens sounds, but i grew up military and say it New Or leans.

utopian
06-08-2003, 03:11 AM
Ya'll, it's spelt "y'all". It's still not a real word though. It's meant to be "DURRR HURRRR HAY YOUS GUYS!!~"

Nandragon
06-08-2003, 04:40 AM
;)

:p

:D

Ya'll

utopian
06-08-2003, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by Weatherman
Obligatory Utopian pre-emption: lol, France surrenders.
LOL FRANCE SURRENDERS

Asmodeus
06-08-2003, 05:20 AM
yeah, its ya'll, since you forget, you over there is ya like "how ya doin?"

but theres other meanings for it..
you = ya
2 you = yous
3+ you = you'uns
a group = ya'll
big group = all ya'll

;)


and yeah, i don't care what people say or how their favorite musician wannabe pronounces it, its not ax, its ask.. next one in teh office here who says they want to ax me a question gets a hatchet and pointed to the woodpile. maybe then they can go break me off a chunk.

and the capital city is "nawlins", now new orleans

angel_b
06-08-2003, 09:23 AM
Alot is NOT a word! :mad:

thingy
06-08-2003, 09:38 AM
All this talk of words and phrases that aren't real, I'm just waiting for the day ZGeek starts a big enough trend to add "teh" to the list. Hell, it already shits me. :)

oracle
06-08-2003, 09:50 AM
Somehow I knew this thread would be big. I leave for work yesterday at 19 posts, come back today and it's more than doubled!
--
I hate 'unedummacated' people who say "somefing" "somefink" or "somethink." I know the English language is the only language with the "th" sound, so I can understand it when people that learned English as a second language have problems with it. My dad sometimes slips up on it, but he can speak Hebrew, Arabic, and a little bit of German and French among others, so I'll forgive him that... Most of the time he says it properly, but I can't stand people who say it all the time because their parents/teachers never corrected them.

A few others: -

Properly. It's prop-er-lee NOT prop-lee

This Morning. This is spoken like it's one word, which leads some people to say it "t-smorning" (with a hard T as in "Teh-Smorning")

That's all I can fink of right now, but I'm sure there's more.

thingy
06-08-2003, 09:57 AM
To quote the Doug Anthony All Stars when they spoke to the audience at one point in one of their live shows and the person they were talking to said "nuffin".

Old man river, he never said nuffin. Never said nuffin, always said[/song] [b]NOTHING. English is a very beautiful language, please try to use it once in a while.

sperm
06-08-2003, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by thingy
English is a very beautiful language

What ?? English is a mish-mash and a mongrel of languages. It borrows/steals from just about every other languages. Worst of all, just about every rule on spelling, grammar and tense has an exception or doesnt even apply strongly !

Its only due to the british colonism and then domination of the USA that it has become the defacto 'technical' standard. Although I know little of it myself, most sources Ive seen acknowledge esperanto as the best 'beautiful', structured and logical language ...

oracle
06-08-2003, 11:20 AM
Just because English may not be as "logical" as some other language, it doesn't mean that you should throw pronunciation out the window altogether.

Nor do I believe that it cannot be classed as beautiful. We are all prone to making grammatical errors, or general misuse of words, so I still find it very enjoyable to read a good authors well formed sentences... sometimes wishing my vocabulary and skill with words were just as good.

Edit: Corrections in red

sperm
06-08-2003, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by oracle
...sometimes wishing my vocabulary and skill with words WERE just as good....

*snicker*

oracle
06-08-2003, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by oracle
We are all prone to making grammatical errors, or general misuse of wordsAs I was saying...

Above posted edited.

Edit: To my credit, the sentence originally read "sometimes wishing my vocabulary was just as good." I then added to the sentence without correcting my linking verb. http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~joshua.y/smiley/shrug.gif

Kyle
06-08-2003, 11:43 AM
To sum up everything I hate about the english language, i will quote one of the most horrible "artists" of all history...

"I pulls up in my strech,I let my homegirls flex my 9-8
close and closer they follow in my Limo,playin' cd's
of when I used to HeeeHee totally in my ass cheecks
they sweat these beets,for any kinda jeeps,you know how
I is,so freakin' hot that I siz,Geewiz,get my clothes taylored
like I'm Liz,Miz,I'm commin' for your ass in a min,seconds or hours
Everything I do seem to bloom like flowers,I cruse these beets like I'm
drivin' Eddie Bauer,some of ya'll mc's mad I got the power,I hit you
with the Pllllll pmm uhh,take that,niggaz wanna step well um UHH take
that,what mmm uh uh take that,yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

[Chorus:]
Izzy Izzy ahh zizah zizah zizah
hard bitches be talkin' like they all rah rah
Blizzy Blizzy blahzah blahzah blahzay
none of y'all fools ain't got shit on me"

........i hate her.....

oracle
06-08-2003, 11:55 AM
BTW, this is a great site (linked from Dictionary.com) about Common Errors in English (http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html). Although it's an American site, the vast majority of the rules apply to proper English, and is a pretty enjoyable read.

I read through the whole thing over a year ago, but this thread (and the fact that it looks like more terms have been added) has prompted me to go through it again.

utopian
06-08-2003, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by sperm
What ?? English is a mish-mash and a mongrel of languages. It borrows/steals from just about every other languages.
What are you talking about? English is an Open Source language. :cool:

As for the most beautiful and logical language, you can't go past German. In German, you can tack suffixes and prefixes on to any basic word and come up with something completely new that no one has ever heard before yet will understand. The grouping of nouns and verbs is different as well. I'm pretty sure we've headed down this path in the forums before, at which point Grumblefish jumped in and praised German and educated us all about it.

kleph
06-08-2003, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by utopian
Isn't it just "Norlens"?

try "Baton Rouge"

utopian
06-08-2003, 01:39 PM
Red Stick?

Oh, kleph, have you ever seen "Pulp Fiction"? I'm pretty sure Bruce Willis' character says "Zed's dead, baby". The keyring for the motorcycle is a big capital Z.

Even Bruce Willis thinks it's "zed", and he's quite an intelligent man.

kleph
06-08-2003, 03:46 PM
it was peter green's character's name, for christ's sake.

Diva
06-08-2003, 05:22 PM
write me
write you what? oh, you mean write TO me? :rolleyes:

normalcy
this gives me the shudders. Just because a US president said it doesn't mean it is good english. the preferred word is normality.

anyhows
get rid of the final letter

there are others which will no doubt come back and haunt me :eek:

utopian
06-08-2003, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by kleph
it was peter green's character's name, for christ's sake.
So Tarantino knows that it's "Zed", right?

Al
06-08-2003, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by utopian
So Tarantino knows that it's "Zed", right?

Like a dog with a bone aintcha?

utopian
06-08-2003, 06:57 PM
I ain't getting nothing from them shops.

hazza
06-08-2003, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by utopian
So Tarantino knows that it's "Zed", right?



ITS
A
NAME
NOT
A
LETTER

beer_cAN
07-08-2003, 12:27 AM
OH FFS!!!!! YOU IDIOTIC AMERICANS AND CANADIANS: LEARN TO SPELL ALUMINIUM! HAVE YOU SEEN A PERIODIC TABLE LATELY? THERE IS NO SUCH A WORD AS 'ALUMINUM'! ALUMINA, YES, BUT NO ALUMINUM!

ALSO, SPELLING WORDS SUCH AS 'POLITICISING' IS ACTUALLY THE CORRECT SPELLING, AS REPLACING THE 'Z' WITH AN 'S' EVOLVED IN BRITAIN; THEY HAPPEN TO HAVE A BETTER IDEA AS TO HOW TO SPELL, GIVEN THAT IT IS THEIR NATIVE LANGUAGE.

Bottom line, particularly to Americans: Don't try to hijack the Queen's English, I mean, you still stubbornly refuse to adopt the metric system, which makes you possibly the only archaic idiots not to, but stop polluting culture with your half-baked spelling. It's bad enough having to cringe at the sight of your president...

Ok, straight jacket at table 4 thankyou!

P.s. Yes, I realise that this post is 4 pages late!

Edit: AHAHAHA that was actually a typo!

Nandragon
07-08-2003, 12:59 AM
Reynolds wrap or Aluminum foil?

and it's Li-brary

not Lie-barry

beer_cAN
07-08-2003, 01:06 AM
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OO

+I!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

oracle
07-08-2003, 01:07 AM
beer_cAN might I suggest to you that you re-read your post... but to paraphase his first point.

# Name: aluminium
# Symbol: Al
# Atomic number: 13
# Atomic weight: 26.981538 (2)

Also, "library" reminded be of another, similarly mistreated word, and the month of my birthday: "February"

... That's feb-ru-air-ee NOT feb-you-air-ee!

Edit: Ok, you realised the extra "i" before I posted... So fix it.

Fuzzy Dice
07-08-2003, 02:19 AM
actually, it IS aluminum on our periodic tables. I checked. Twice, just in case. I know yours say aluminium. What escapes me is WHY?

kleph
07-08-2003, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by beer_cAN
Bottom line, particularly to Americans: Don't try to hijack the Queen's English, I mean, you still stubbornly refuse to adopt the metric system, which makes you possibly the only archaic idiots not to, but stop polluting culture with your half-baked spelling. It's bad enough having to cringe at the sight of your president...


gee, it's nice to know that even a thread about linguistics can stoop to the anti-american nonsense more typical elsewhere on this site.

we are not "hijacking" anything. there is no american conspiracy to take over the world's speech. we aren't out to get you - we could care less about you (which, i might point out, is another - much deeper - problem)

languages, like just about everything on this planet, evolve. the word "goodbye" is perfectly normal english just about everywhere but go back far enough you'll find a group of people horrified that the expression "god be with you" had been simplified in such a way.

the biggest thing altering the language in america is this bizarre mixing pot of ethnicities we're rather noted for. you think "fajita" is mexican? are the McDonalds lowland or highland?

the thing that happens is that these elements become part of the general culture and, by necessity, diluted. this is what american mass culture excells at. on the one hand it makes for a much richer natural experience but it also puts a knife in the heart of the unique elements that aren't a part of that.

if i could tell you how much it shits me that one of the unique cultural regions of this country, and one that i hail from, has been coopted at the national level. Cajun has become a term to mean "with too much red pepper" in the sense of food (Cajun McRib Sandwich) or "backwards white trash" in the sense of the people that live there (The Waterboy).

from the global perspective, all this is seen with an odd sense of perspective. there is a different type of cultural engine that works in Australia (although with marked similarities) that is just as powerful and dynamic within it's own borders. but because american cultural icons are exported to such a large degree, the perception is that the american culture is the dominant one. this just isn't true.

the problem is the similarity of the tounges. if you go to germany, mexico or anywhere a different language is spoken there is a very tangible sense of which culture is which. that barrier is less visible when the languages are similar but it is still very much there. any american going to australia expecting not to experience any level of culture shock is niave at best and an ingnorant ass at worst.

while there is an element of this global exportation of american culture at work on the languages of other cultures, i don't really believe this is the crisis it's made out to be. for two reasons. the first is that this exported version of america is no more like the place than mcdonalds food is like real food. it's a product, nothing more. secondly as a product it can be used or discarded at will. you can't do that with your real culture - it's part of who you are and what defines you.

so, yes, given the overwhelming imagery of american culture, there will be some changes in language but far, far fewer than it would take to stage a global revolution. you guys still say "zed" no matter how many episodes of "X-Files," "Buffy" and "Star Trek" you have seen.

on an interesting side note. the abhorrent Outback Steakhouse chain here - who's gimmick is a watered down and grossly steriotypical version of Australian culture - has actually made a subtle change that makes at least one small aspect of their existence authentic. when you order something and pick it up it's no longer "To Go" but rather "Take Away."

Stocking
07-08-2003, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by beer_cAN
OH FFS!!!!! YOU IDIOTIC AMERICANS AND CANADIANS: LEARN TO SPELL ALUMINIUM! HAVE YOU SEEN A PERIODIC TABLE LATELY? THERE IS NO SUCH A WORD AS 'ALUMINUM'! ALUMINA, YES, BUT NO ALUMINIUM!

This is the one word that I will hapily give to the Americans. It was American scientist who discovered the stuff. We all should be calling it Aluminum.

But for every other American bastardisation (sorry Kleph - I'm using this word in the kindest sense) I can say one thing. The American English is so differently evolved that I am a firm believer that this dialect should be known as American (or something like that) rather than English.

utopian
07-08-2003, 03:08 AM
Should I ever be in the United States, I'll make sure I apply for a job at "Outback Steakhouse".

kleph
07-08-2003, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by utopian
Should I ever be in the United States, I'll make sure I apply for a job at "Outback Steakhouse".

they don't hire foreigners.

utopian
07-08-2003, 04:00 AM
Racists.

Stocking
07-08-2003, 04:08 AM
I think you'll find that it is Visa-ist

kleph
07-08-2003, 04:13 AM
or sarcasm.

actually, any aussie with a visa can make a shitload of money as a bartender here. hell, there are plenty of places where you don't even need the visa.

there's a bar in the high desert of san bernardino county where i met this guy from melbourne. it wasn't the busiest place around but got pretty full on weekends cause there was nowhere else to go. he said that in the six months he had worked there he had made enough money to travel for a full year and seen more tits than he thought was possible in that same period of time.

all because of the accent.

utopian
07-08-2003, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by Stocking
I think you'll find that it is Visa-ist
Yes, because if I'm going to be over there long enough to justify looking for a job, I won't bother about a working visa at all. The entire notion of not having a visa while seeking employment is obviously the logical choice.

angel_b
07-08-2003, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by kleph
the problem is the similarity of the tounges. if you go to germany, mexico or anywhere a different language is spoken there is a very tangible sense of which culture is which. that barrier is less visible when the languages are similar but it is still very much there. any american going to australia expecting no to experience any level of culture shock is niave at best and an ingnorant ass at worst.
Very perceptive, mate. :)

We Aussies are so busy trying to beat back the perceived attack on our culture by the yanks that we don't realise that the culture is alive and well.

Diva
08-08-2003, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by kleph
any american going to australia expecting not to experience any level of culture shock is niave at best and an ingnorant ass at worst.

of course, we would call them an 'ignorant arse' here :D

oracle
08-08-2003, 04:43 PM
That's "ignorant ass" to you Americans.

... I'm sorry, I couldn't resist. :p

DJos
08-08-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Stocking
This is the one word that I will hapily give to the Americans. It was American scientist who discovered the stuff. We all should be calling it Aluminum.

But for every other American bastardisation (sorry Kleph - I'm using this word in the kindest sense) I can say one thing. The American English is so differently evolved that I am a firm believer that this dialect should be known as American (or something like that) rather than English.

In defense of the Americans - they just cant help it, we are largly descended from the english where as the poor Americans are largely decended from the Irish. :p

Eds
08-08-2003, 07:29 PM
Have you been to America lately? To say they're descended from any one nationality is painting things with a fairly broad brush. That bland Californian dialect you hear on the telly sounds a bit Irish sometimes but that's not even a small fraction of American ancestry. When I was there I knew WAY more people descended from French, Spanish, Puerto Rican, German and African heritage than ANY McCoys, Riordans or O'Donnells.
And even though he used that "could care less" thing ;) I think Kleph makes an excellent point. Language is evolving, particularly with the advance in communication technology. Today it's just as easy for your voice to be heard, no matter whether you're a Kenyan alpaca farmer or a ditzy valley girl. It's all a matter of perspective.

Tintin
08-08-2003, 07:47 PM
Helium
Lithium
Beryllium
Sodium
Magnesium
Potassium
Calcium
Scandium
Titanium
Vanadium
Chromium
Gallium
Germanium
Selenium
Rubidium
Strontium
Yttrium
Zirconium
Niobium
Technetium
Ruthenium
Rhodium
Palladium
Cadmium
Indium
Tellurium
Cesium
Barium
Cerium
Praseodymium
Neodymium
Promethium
Samarium
Europium
Gadolinium
Terbium
Dysprosium
Holmium
Erbium
Thulium
Ytterbium
Lutetium
Hafnium
Rhenium
Osmium
Iridium
Thallium
Polonium
Francium
Radium
Actinium
Thorium
Protactinium
Uranium
Neptunium
Plutonium
Americium :D
Curium
Berkelium :D
Californium :D
Einsteinium
Fermium
Mendelevium
Nobelium
Lawrencium
Unnilquadium
Unnilpentium
Unnilhexium
Unnilseptium
Unniloctium
Unnilennium
Ununnilium
Unununium
Ununbium

ALUMINIUM

Tintin
08-08-2003, 07:51 PM
... has more impact than

Platinum
Tantalum :(

ALUMINUM

DJos
08-08-2003, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by Eds
Have you been to America lately? To say they're descended from any one nationality is painting things with a fairly broad brush. That bland Californian dialect you hear on the telly sounds a bit Irish sometimes but that's not even a small fraction of American ancestry. When I was there I knew WAY more people descended from French, Spanish, Puerto Rican, German and African heritage than ANY McCoys, Riordans or O'Donnells.
And even though he used that "could care less" thing ;) I think Kleph makes an excellent point. Language is evolving, particularly with the advance in communication technology. Today it's just as easy for your voice to be heard, no matter whether you're a Kenyan alpaca farmer or a ditzy valley girl. It's all a matter of perspective.

Hmm lets see now, I reckon I could have been making a famous ZGeek style wild generalisation (note the "s" not "z"). Sheesh, someone had to! :cool:

Eds
09-08-2003, 01:48 AM
Lovin' the ZGeek wild generalisations. Actually, all generalisations ;)
And I absolutely, positively and without exception ADORE, cherish and worship (more than the sweet pulse of life itself) the art of wild, unchecked, verbose, grandstanding, embellitastic exaggeration!

Hey, I invented a word. Embellitastic. Wonder if it'll catch on in the States?

kleph
09-08-2003, 03:04 AM
as a former journalist i was fighting for a world with better grammar. why just at the last paper i worked at i got the words sanguine, cacophony and ubiquitous in print. so i could care less about your concern about me using could care less.

also, the ideal american accent for news tends to be from the midwest. californians tend to have an unusual intonation and a penchant for jargon.

Nandragon
09-08-2003, 04:53 AM
<<penchant for jargon..

Just a little trivia here...but I lived my childhood years in California.
Yuba City, San Diego, Riverside, Los Angeles are the ones I can remember. I was not born in Georgia either.:p

MisterBishi
09-08-2003, 05:58 AM
IT'S FUCKING KLEPH (http://forums.zgeek.com/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=71262&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending)

Nandragon
09-08-2003, 06:18 AM
Vulgarity was not necessary.

If you search long enough you'll see that I mizspell names, placez what not, doesn't matter, i'm not partial in my misspellings. Why I'm sure at some point dear that I've misspelled even Your mister bischi

and

ain't it sweet that you're doing searches on all my posts;)



Forgive me kleph, sometimes I do get it right, and it's not done out of malice. I promise.

MisterBishi
09-08-2003, 06:30 AM
The fact that you don't care about something doesn't mean that nobody else does.

Oh, and by the way, I didn't search on your posts, I searched on the string 'Kelph'.

Sputnick
09-08-2003, 06:45 AM
Hows the UK Bishi boy ?

MisterBishi
09-08-2003, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by Sputnick
Hows the UK Bishi boy ?


Hmm... this intrigues me.

I'm fine, thank you, but should I know you? :confused:

DrDivad
09-08-2003, 11:44 AM
awww nigglesnoosh!

Aphrodite
09-08-2003, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by kleph
languages, like just about everything on this planet, evolve.
Yay for kelphie !!!
;)
I would like to see the English language do more than just evolve - full scale REFORM I say.
Get rid of all those redundant letters - eg. we don't need K when we have C.
and why have different spelling for the same sounds - eg. ou, oo & ough.
and who needs capital letters [i noticed that kleph's entire post was just as eloquent without a single capital - unless of course his SHIFT key is broken]

Spelling Anarchy I tells ya! Join the SSS (http://www.spellingsociety.org/) today... :D

Aphrodite
09-08-2003, 12:29 PM
From the SSS...

Cut Spelling
Th foloing paragrafs sho CS in action. We first notice it is not hard to read, even without noing its rules, and with practis we read it as esily as traditionl spelng. Most words ar unchanjed (over 3/4 in th previus sentnce), and we hav th impression not of a totaly new riting systm, but of norml script with letrs misng here and ther. Th basic shape of most words, by wich we recognize them, is not fundmently altrd, and nearly al those that ar mor substantialy chanjed ar quikly decoded; very few ar truly puzlng. This means that, if al printd matr sudnly apeard in CS tomoro, peples readng ability wud not be seriusly afectd. Foren lernrs in particulr ar helpd by th clearr indication of pronunciation, as wen pairs like lo/cow, danjer/angr, undrmine/determn cese to look like ryms. With groing familiarity, users apreciate CS as a streamlined but mor acurat represntation of spoken english. Its novlty lies in th disapearnce of much of th arbitry clutr that makes ritn english so confusing and causes most of th mistakes peple now make.

]-[Å®ÐRøçK
11-08-2003, 10:42 AM
The plural of a dice is die...

It fucking shits me when I see a sentence like, "Pick up the three dice and proceed to roll them."

Octopusses, viruses, and cactuses are also other contenders...

Octopii, virii and cactii...It's not that fucking hard people, really it's not.

Fuzzy Dice
11-08-2003, 01:21 PM
when people in all seriousness add an -ed to the end of a word.

Dived. *sigh* It's Dove.
Sinked. Sank.
Drinked. DRINKED? fuck off, drinked. Drank.
sleeped. SLEPT.

obviously, i could very well continue on this tack for quite some time. However, in the interests of brevity, i'll stop here.

ShadowNemesis
11-08-2003, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by Fuzzy Dice
when people in all seriousness add an -ed to the end of a word.

Dived. *sigh* It's Dove.
Sinked. Sank.
Drinked. DRINKED? fuck off, drinked. Drank.
sleeped. SLEPT.

obviously, i could very well continue on this tack for quite some time. However, in the interests of brevity, i'll stop here.

I have a headache now:(

primary
11-08-2003, 02:03 PM
I didn't read all the pages, but Canadian's and their pronounciation of about is annoying.

kleph
11-08-2003, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by ShadowNemesis
I have a headache now:(

drink through it.

ShadowNemesis
11-08-2003, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by kleph
drink through it.

Good idea, I have enough wild turkey to do me a few days at least:)

Tintin
11-08-2003, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by ]-[Å®ÐRøçK
The plural of a dice is die...

It fucking shits me when I see a sentence like, "Pick up the three dice and proceed to roll them."

I think it is the other way 'round, i.e. the plural of die is dice. Also I thought cacti was the plural of cactus.

beer_cAN
11-08-2003, 03:37 PM
I'm sorry for flogging a dead horse here, but I found this:

"1808 Sir Humphry Davy (Britain) established the existence of aluminium and named it."

http://www.world-aluminium.org/history/index.html

As for those who took offense to my comments regarding hijacking, you could use a good pinch of salt...

edit: typos

Tintin
11-08-2003, 08:24 PM
I accept beer_cAN's authority on this subject.

locust
11-08-2003, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by ]-[Å®ÐRøçK

Octopusses, viruses, and cactuses are also other contenders...

Octopii, virii and cactii...It's not that fucking hard people, really it's not.

I believe "viruses" is actually the correct usage. "Virii" came about because "virus" is a Latin word and lots of Latin words obey the -us -> -ii rule, however (a) in Latin, there is no plural of "virus" (b) if there was a plural of "virus" in Latin, it would probably be "virora."

Reference (http://www.perl.com/language/misc/virus.html)

Deimos
12-08-2003, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by primary
I didn't read all the pages, but Canadian's and their pronounciation of about is annoying.

<grammar nazi>
Canadians... pronunciation...
</grammar nazi>

Sorry to be a pedant, but in this thread it is less inappropriate than in others...

kleph
12-08-2003, 02:03 AM
another fun one is the singluar of the large muscle in the front of the upper arm - it's a biceps.

but my personal pet peve are the idiotic names that developers come up with for these cookie cutter suburbs - eagle crest, canyon cove, willow glen, et al.

THIS IS FUCKING PHOENIX!!! IT'S 115 DEGREES AND A DESERT!!! IT'S FLAT AS SHIT AND YOU HAVE TO DIVERT THE ENTIRE COLORADO RIVER TO GROW THIS CRAP ASS GRASS!!!

christ, the only place out here in the southwest named correctly is the city of Moreno Valley.

oracle
15-08-2003, 06:20 PM
I was talking to my brother about this thread, and he told me that Sesame Street started the whole "Zee" thing so the alphabet song could actually rhyme at the end.

I guess that would also explain why America is the only place in the worl it is pronounced like that.

Al
15-08-2003, 06:35 PM
:swear:

The only time is should be a zee is when you are rhyming...

Sheesh!

MisterBishi
15-08-2003, 06:36 PM
I'm sure we have some pre-Sesame Street Americans here who can expose your brother as a fraud and a charlatan.

oracle
15-08-2003, 06:45 PM
Yeah, after doing some Google searching, I saw it was in some book written in the 1800's... Title was something like "Simple Spelling for Americans."

Can't be bothered find it again... Anyone?

Edit: Meh... So I lied... I'm not lazy.

It was Noah Webster who created a spelling book in the 1800's, with a simplified spelling for Americans.

flounder
15-08-2003, 10:40 PM
THESE ONES

"what about these ones"?

This irritates me no end.

:mad:

Diva
18-08-2003, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Tintin
I think it is the other way 'round, i.e. the plural of die is dice.

correct.

one die

multiple dice

my mum used to go nuts over that one if we got it wrong :eek:

Tintin
19-08-2003, 04:25 PM
wtf is with 'percUlated', and 'withdraRal'?

It's 'PercOlated' and 'WithdraWal'!

Don't get me started on 'CapsicuN'... It's 'CapsicuM'!

kleph
19-08-2003, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Tintin
Don't get me started on 'CapsicuN'... It's 'CapsicuM'!

Ta-BAS-co

Imprint
19-08-2003, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by ]-[Å®ÐRøçK

Octopusses, viruses, and cactuses are also other contenders...

Octopii, virii and cactii...It's not that fucking hard people, really it's not.

http://www.perl.com/language/misc/virus.html

kré
19-08-2003, 07:06 PM
don't know if it's been said already, but...





THANK YOU

NOT

THANKYOU

THERE IS NO SUCH FUCKING WORD AS 'THANKYOU' YOU FUCKING NUMB-SKULLS.

BtrFly
19-08-2003, 07:10 PM
nicely put:swear:

Nandragon
20-08-2003, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by kleph
Ta-BAS-co

Now this brings up an interesting subject.

Tabasco
or
Pepper Sauce
or
Hot Sauce

Not saying that they are all the same, just sometimes it can be confusing. I know the difference. But note that the 2 (tabasco & pepper) are commonly called Hot Sauce by many.
I now defer to Kleph..

kleph
20-08-2003, 03:03 AM
tabasco sauce is a specific brand of sauce made by the mcilhenny company in avery island, lousiana (about 10 mi south of new iberia). it is one of a number of sauces known as louisiana hot sauces that are all made in that specific geographical area and, typically, contain only three ingredients - vinegar, tabasco peppers and salt. because of the tabasco brand's ubiquity, it is often refered to when describing these types of hot sauces.

but there are countless hot sauces and pepper sauces. both are typically made of peppers but the difference is simple - one is hot and the other is not. there are pepper sauces that are actually sweet but i'm not aware of a hot sauce that isn't derived from some type of pepper.

Nandragon
20-08-2003, 05:05 AM
Ah! you're wrong!

peppers pickled in vinegar with salt and pepper is PEPPER SAUCE.
The vinegar is poored over (lets say) turnip greens. Sopped with cornbread.

Hot sauce or tabasco is (saw it on TLC) is ground mushed deskinned red peppers. The end result is the red liquid in bottles.
Tobasco is the best brand followed by Loisianna (I KNOW!)

I have friends that eat tobasco on EVERYTHING!

kré
20-08-2003, 10:36 AM
A fuck up I've seen as a growing trend on the internet lately is spelling congratulations with a D (congradulations) http://www.crayonline.com/smilies/mad.gif

kleph
20-08-2003, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Nandragon
Ah! you're wrong!

peppers pickled in vinegar with salt and pepper is PEPPER SAUCE.
The vinegar is poored over (lets say) turnip greens. Sopped with cornbread.

Hot sauce or tabasco is (saw it on TLC) is ground mushed deskinned red peppers. The end result is the red liquid in bottles.
Tobasco is the best brand followed by Loisianna (I KNOW!)

I have friends that eat tobasco on EVERYTHING!

i don't know about what nonsense was on TLC but i'm not wrong. my sources are Jame's Peterson's excellent book "Sauces" which won the James Beard Award in 1992 as well as Mr. McIlhenny and Mr. Trappey who owned the Tabasco and Trappey companies respectively and who were close friends of my grandmother.

tabasco and other louisiana pepper sauces are derived from a mash which is made from the crushed peppers and vinegar. it is then stored in oak barrels and aged approximately three years packed in salt. other excellent brands are Bruce's and Trappey's.

they are defined by the limited ingredients and the aging - not the heat of the sauce. it's this unique taste of the louisiana pepper sauces that makes them so distinctive and compliments cajun and creole cooking so well.

the other sauce you describe i have always heard called "pepper vinegar" but never "pepper sauce." the pickled peppers are left in the bottle and it is refilled with vinegar as often as necessary. trappey's probably makes the best. it is excellent on white beans and rice.

overall, "pepper sauces" can range from the sweet acquasale sauces to the searingly hot thai sauces. there are countless other "hot sauces" that are made with any number of ingredients and range from the relatively mild to nuclear destruction hot. these are typically used with southwestern dishes

Tintin
20-08-2003, 03:19 PM
Capsicum != Tabasco; capsicums are not hot.

EquipTment. :banana:

kleph
21-08-2003, 04:24 AM
U.S. - Lieutenant
U.K. - Leftenant


i remembered this watching "Band of Brothers" the other night. damian lewis who play maj. richard winters - an american- is actually a brit. a couple times in the show he drops the british pronunciation rather than the american.

MisterBishi
21-08-2003, 04:41 AM
hmm.. we say 'Lieutenant' here, I'll have to ask my military mum about the difference. :confused:

Diva
21-08-2003, 10:58 AM
we say 'leftenant' here, my brother has horror stories of when he was in the army. If someone said 'lieutanant' to someone of that rank, they got rather displeased about it :smith:

hexaplasm
29-08-2003, 04:39 AM
My local newspaper has used "lightening" in lieu of "lightning"
several times.

kleph
29-08-2003, 04:52 AM
that's because local newspapers tend to suck and are about as accurate as an autistic five-year-old. trust me, i know.

Rod
29-08-2003, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by big al
You are a bitter, bitter man. Nice work.

My pet hate? Words that Americans have murder so they look like they sound...

That and the use of Z in words where there was an S...

*sigh*

I'm Aussie too, but....
Fancy wanting to have words look like they sound.
What a fucked up concept.

utopian
29-08-2003, 01:17 PM
It's not so bad, until you realise that they've butchered the pronunciation of it as well.

Rod
29-08-2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by utopian
It's not so bad, until you realise that they've butchered the pronunciation of it as well.

Sounds like I am sticking up for seppos but I am not.
Have you matched the Aussie pronunciation v the Pommy way?
Pom: How now brown cow...
Aus: Hiaow Niaow Briaon ciaow

utopian
29-08-2003, 03:12 PM
None of those words are spelt with a "Z" in them in america.

CMYK
29-08-2003, 04:23 PM
The plural of virus in viruses.

There is no virii.

If you think virii is a word then you are an ignorant cunt.

Fuzzy Dice
29-08-2003, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by CMYK
The plural of virus in viruses.

There is no virii.

If you think virii is a word then you are an ignorant cunt.

....or possibly a microbiologist....maybe a biochemist....

CMYK
29-08-2003, 04:29 PM
You be a bloody stupid microbiologist if you thought that virii was the plural of virus. You'd be a total ignorant fuckwit.

Fuzzy Dice
29-08-2003, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by CMYK
You be a bloody stupid microbiologist if you thought that virii was the plural of virus. You'd be a total ignorant fuckwit.

lol

CMYK
29-08-2003, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by CMYK
You be a bloody stupid microbiologist if you thought that virii was the plural of virus. You'd be a total ignorant fuckwit.

The site cited by Imprint (http://www.perl.com/language/misc/virus.html) gives the full explanation. If your not a linguist it may be a little strange, but the conclusion still is clear:

The plural of virus is viruses.

Nandragon
30-08-2003, 12:11 AM
Thank youz and pleaze?


:p

Wizard of Oz
31-08-2003, 08:14 PM
.. for an example of how arrogant the americans are when it comes to the English language one only has to consider the metric system .. even though the yanks have not seen the sense in using this system they still choose to tell those who do that it is spelt "meter" and not "metre" .. and it IS "maths" from mathematics NOT "math"

.. in Aus it drives me up the wall when weather broadcasters tell us that so many "mils" of rain has fallen .. rain is measured in mm NOT ml

Even if language is a living evolving organism, we don't have to embrace all the changes that occur during our lifetimes. If language is so alive, it can get sick. Christopher Lehmann-Haupt.

The word is half his who speaks, and half his who hears it. Montaigne.

kré
31-08-2003, 08:22 PM
http://www.crayonline.com/pics/other/words.jpg

Bostonmess
31-08-2003, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by CMYK
The site cited by Imprint (http://www.perl.com/language/misc/virus.html) gives the full explanation. If your not a linguist it may be a little strange, but the conclusion still is clear:

The plural of virus is viruses.

Maybe that's just in the biological sense? For example computer viruses might be really be known as computer virii. Like the plural of mouse is mice, but in the computer world it might be mouses?

Like the plural of goose is geese, but the plural of mongoose is mongooses :) WTF that's got to do with anything, I don't know.;)

kré
31-08-2003, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Bostonmess
Maybe that's just in the biological sense? For example computer viruses might be really be known as computer virii. Like the plural of mouse is mice, but in the computer world it might be mouses?

Like the plural of goose is geese, but the plural of mongoose is mongooses :) WTF that's got to do with anything, I don't know.;)

no matter what the use, the plural of virus is viruses.

Bostonmess
31-08-2003, 08:42 PM
What about mouses?

kré
31-08-2003, 08:44 PM
as far as i know it's still mice

Bostonmess
31-08-2003, 08:45 PM
Mongooses? :)

7sean2
31-08-2003, 09:37 PM
Moose?

7sean2
31-08-2003, 09:39 PM
'es?

utopian
02-09-2003, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by cray
as far as i know it's still mice
ZING!

Winner :cool:

mysterious-dr-x
02-09-2003, 05:38 AM
Originally posted by kleph
before the thread gets underway i'd like to make a singular but important point...

[b]IT'S "ZEE" NOT "ZED" YOU BACKWARD AUSSIE (AND CANADIAN) FUCKS!!!



i resent not being called backward, not because im backwards but because its ZED. surely if its our language, it being called english & all, it existed before the americans who say zee, so it must be zed.

Bostonmess
02-09-2003, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by utopian
ZING!

Winner :cool:

Zing (http://www2.dealtime.com/dt-app/SE/KW-computer%20mouses/FD-0/linkin_id-3032000/NS-1/GS.html)

Zing (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mouses)

Tintin
10-09-2003, 12:47 PM
A lack of articulate speech is demonstrated when the word 'but' is used at the end of a sentence. It doesn't bother me too much, but. :D

Using 'me' instead of 'my' is another that will have you labelled 'working class'.

Jimma
27-06-2006, 11:53 PM
Welcome back everybody, to 2003 where I will respond to a thread I never got around to. It was a busy day, but I made a note to myself to reply here and now I am doing so.

Some of you are very plainly WRONG about your little peeves. Here I have a list of things that are true. Enjoy the list.

Aluminium, the English spelling, is the correct spelling. Accept it because it is SI. Humphry Day himself first used aluminium and then changed his mind and used aluminum several years later. This was protested and aluminium became the official name. It still is today outside of America. The reason behind this is that the -ium ending (such as in calcium) was the traditional one in chemical nomenclature (although platinum existed.)

Flammable and Inflammable both have the exact same meaning, and the exact same usage. Unlike Inquiry and Enquiry where although there is no difference in meaning a distinct difference in use is evident, these two words are entirely interchangeable. Inflammable, the older word, is still used in many garment labels.

Schedule is pronounced schedule, not skedule. Much like chassis is not pronounced with a hard "ch" (as in cheese.) Only North-Americans believe otherwise.

SMS message is a perfectly acceptable phrase. By extending the acronym you get "short message service message." Amazingly, it is fine for a word to be in a sentence more than once.

Here I'll pick on people arguing about the position of the apostrophe in "y'all." The proper practice is to place it where letters have been removed. In "haven't" it replaces the o in not. We could then assume that by removing ou from you all (rather than the a from all when accompanied by "ya" as that isn't a word), that y'all would be more acceptable. Although if one thing is completely unacceptable and so is another, neither is more acceptable is it?

The plural of dice is not die, but the plural of die most certainly is dice. Idiot.

The past tense of dive is dived, not dove. That's a bird.

Lieutenant is pronounced just like that, much like "left tenant." The British Army first used it and that is how they pronounced it. The Royal Navy and the Americans may pronounce it in a better anglicised form or the way it looks, but that is wrong.

It is a pet peeve of one zGeek that broadcasters refer to rainfall in "mills." Just as this is a perfectly fine abbreviation of millilitre, it is a perfectly fine abbreviation of millimetre. Mill is quite simply a prefix representing 1/1000.

I make a fuss about Americans incorrectly using the English language, but if it wasn't English they spoke I'd be happy. Simply claim to speak "American" rather than English and I'll not be able to argue.

Benwah
28-06-2006, 12:02 AM
Using 'me' instead of 'my' is another that will have you labelled 'working class'.

What's wrong with being labelled working class? I'm proud to be so.

Great post Jimma, what do you do for a living? you must write or be a professor or English or something?

Jimma
28-06-2006, 01:36 AM
Not an English professor, a student of the law. Although using words incorrectly in law can be rather bad.

Thyrd
28-06-2006, 02:04 AM
I've noticed a trend with news anchors to say 'hotting up' which annoys me. I've always considered proper phrase 'Heating up'.
Which is it?

kiki
28-06-2006, 02:10 AM
i hear it all the time...Im having a ChewNa Sandwich....T U N A ....its a 'T'

Tuuuunah

kiki
28-06-2006, 02:11 AM
I hear it all the time..."I'm having a ChewNa Sandwich" ....T U N A ....it's a 'T'

Tuuuunah

JessicaDV8
28-06-2006, 02:12 AM
"Feminazi"

"Git 'er done!"

I used to hate it when people used "begging the question" incorrectly. It doesn't mean prompting a question, it means basing your argument on something that hasn't been proven. I'm now resigned to it, though.

kiki
28-06-2006, 02:18 AM
"Feminazi"

"Git 'er done!"

I used to hate it when people used "begging the question" incorrectly. It doesn't mean prompting a question, it means basing your argument on something that hasn't been proven. I'm now resigned to it, though.


No dont give up...I correct people all the time and I won't stop ever!

Afta Image
28-06-2006, 02:36 AM
I hear it all the time..."I'm having a ChewNa Sandwich" ....T U N A ....it's a 'T'

Tuuuunah

Hahaha, I love ya cause of you love firefly but I will say CHEW-NA till the day I die, its just the way I say it, consider it an accent of sorts and I fail to see any possible way for you to change my thinking on the subject.

ms edeity
28-06-2006, 02:41 AM
is tuuuna like tooona?

i say tune-a.:shrug:

Jimma
28-06-2006, 02:45 AM
I've noticed a trend with news anchors to say 'hotting up' which annoys me. I've always considered proper phrase 'Heating up'.
Which is it?
Well heating up is the way to describe a rise in temperature, but hotting up is a relatively new term used to describe the modification of cars and such. I wouldn't go saying that putting new seats in my car is "heating it up" and I wouldn't say global warming is causing the "hotting up" of the Earth, but don't mind hearing either on the news so long as they're used correctly.

kiki
28-06-2006, 02:54 AM
is tuuuna like tooona?

i say tune-a.:shrug:

toona is american

tune-a is FAB! My phonetics aren't great..you rule!

Seeker
28-06-2006, 03:22 AM
I hate it when people say Crik instead of Creek.

Vee Hickle is also another, same with Moter Cikle.

Achewooly instead of Actually.

American pronunciations of words kills me sometimes.

kiki
28-06-2006, 03:35 AM
Hahaha, I love ya cause of you love firefly but I will say CHEW-NA till the day I die, its just the way I say it, consider it an accent of sorts and I fail to see any possible way for you to change my thinking on the subject.

Do you want copy of the soundtrack? *sighs* the music is delicious

hmmm I'm thinking of possibilities

Well think about it...it's a T..if you changed all words that had an intital T to 'ch' then what would happen?

you'd have:

Tuesday = Chewsday

ah ok...maybe it's some words that start with 'Tu'

Tuner = Chewna

Tube = chewb

Tunic = Chewnic

Tutorial = Chewtorial

and so on :)

I hate it when people say Crik instead of Creek.

Vee Hickle is also another, same with Moter Cikle.

Achewooly instead of Actually.

American pronunciations of words kills me sometimes.

the above remind me of American Cop shows or people from the Hokey Penokey Swamp :rrofl:

Eds
28-06-2006, 03:41 AM
It shits me when people say "addicting" when they mean "addictive". Or "unorganised" instead of "disorganised". And how hard is it for people who write on restaurant blackboards to learn the correct spelling of "parmigiana" and "schnitzel"?

Have a flick through the Bill Bryson (yes, the same Bill Bryson who writes those travel books) book "Troublesome Words". Many of the common grammatical and spelling fuckups are in there.

JessicaDV8
28-06-2006, 06:15 AM
I hate it when people say Crik instead of Creek.

Vee Hickle is also another, same with Moter Cikle.

Achewooly instead of Actually.

American pronunciations of words kills me sometimes.

I don't want a pickle
Just want to ride on my motorsickle
And I don't want a tickle
'Cause I'd rather ride on my motorsickle
And I don't want to die
I just want to ride on my motorcy...cle

You must loathe rural Americans. I say "crick." A lot of people in my family also say GEEtar.

dwarfthrower
28-06-2006, 09:50 AM
I don't want a pickle
Just want to ride on my motorsickle
And I don't want a tickle
'Cause I'd rather ride on my motorsickle
And I don't want to die
I just want to ride on my motorcy...cle
You my dear, are a lady of extraordinary taste in music. The Alice's Restaurant album ranks up there in my altime favourites.

Seeker
28-06-2006, 09:54 AM
You must loathe rural Americans. I say "crick." A lot of people in my family also say GEEtar.

I am surrounded by them out here, they have their good points.

A new one for me to hate, juwanna instead of Do You Want To.

muppet
28-06-2006, 10:13 AM
i haven't read thru the whole thread, but has anyone picked at balloon yet?

it's buhloon not bah-looEhn.
Hospital is not hopsital.
Specific/specifically is not pacific/pacifically. That one kills me. I want to stab people when i hear them say "pacific(ally)"

dwarfthrower
28-06-2006, 10:18 AM
i haven't read thru the whole thread, but has anyone picked at balloon yet?

it's buhloon not bah-looEhn.
Possibly because no-one else lives in St Albans.

Xythan
28-06-2006, 10:21 AM
You my dear, are a lady of extraordinary taste in music. The Alice's Restaurant album ranks up there in my altime favourites.

I may be young, but BOO-YAH MUTHAFUGGA...

Alice's Restaurant and The CIA Song are absolute classics!!!

THUMBS UP DT!!!

Xythan
28-06-2006, 10:24 AM
I can't bee-leeve I jus' spelt excellent like this exelent to JessicaDV8...

THIS THREAD IS CATCHING, RUN!!!

That Bloke
28-06-2006, 07:14 PM
Aus: Hiaow Niaow Briaon ciaow

You've never heard a real Australian have you?

Fuzzy Dice
29-06-2006, 09:53 AM
Holy Ancient Threadsurrection, Batman!

muppet
29-06-2006, 01:51 PM
Possibly because no-one else lives in St Albans.
it's not just people that live around me though that say it! I've lived all over melbourne, and I always come across one dumbfuck that says "bah-looEhn"

"touch base" is another phrase that drives me insane, too many people say it.

oh and the best one is "yeah.. but nah"

ShinymetalASS
29-06-2006, 01:55 PM
I have a gripe with people (north queenslanders mostly it seems) who mispronounce the word mischevous.

Mis-chee-vee-us.

Where the hell the extra syllable come from eh?

dwarfthrower
29-06-2006, 01:57 PM
it's not just people that live around me though that say it! I've lived all over melbourne, and I always come across one dumbfuck that says "bah-looEhn"

"touch base" is another phrase that drives me insane, too many people say it.

oh and the best one is "yeah.. but nah"
I've only ever heard it from Footscray and beyond. (I used to live in Williamstown - before it got wanky)

muppet
29-06-2006, 02:51 PM
I've only ever heard it from Footscray and beyond. (I used to live in Williamstown - before it got wanky)
strange, i've heard it in noble park & glen waverley.. as well as in the west..

maybe it's the friends i keep

Fuzzy Dice
29-06-2006, 04:22 PM
you know what the worst part about this thread is? I started it in the pre-rep days, and all i've gotten since it's recent threadsurrection is one neg rep from someone who disagreed with a portion of the rantery. For shame.

muppet
29-06-2006, 07:04 PM
it's okay fuzzy dice, i still lubs you :D

Jimma
29-06-2006, 07:21 PM
Was probably me, but I've plus repped you now.

nrejones
29-06-2006, 07:27 PM
Mike Cochizard.

Xythan
03-07-2006, 08:04 AM
Beeyootifool Moite...

Glompbot
03-07-2006, 12:01 PM
I have a question

How would you pronounce ethernet?

dwarfthrower
03-07-2006, 12:03 PM
As I would pronounce "ether" with a "net" at the end. With an "ee" sound not an "eh" sound.

Cassa
03-07-2006, 12:07 PM
When people write 'should of' instead of 'should have'

'touch base' makes me want to cry tears of salty rage

Glompbot
03-07-2006, 01:41 PM
As I would pronounce "ether" with a "net" at the end. With an "ee" sound not an "eh" sound.
I guess this depends upon how you pronounce ether then
I prounounce it as ehther
not eether

Colonel Kurtz
03-07-2006, 01:57 PM
'touch base' makes me want to cry tears of salty rage
'make sure we're on the same page'
'facilitate'
'interface'

fucken boardroom wankers taking normal words and jargonising them.

dwarfthrower
03-07-2006, 01:59 PM
I guess this depends upon how you pronounce ether then

I'm a chemistry geek, I pronounce it "^O^"

Gruntfuttock
03-07-2006, 02:01 PM
'proactive'

Xythan
03-07-2006, 03:45 PM
I've only ever heard it from Footscray and beyond. (I used to live in Williamstown - before it got wanky)

OOOHH...it took me these past four days...

You meant Foot-a-scray...where Franco Cotzo is...

Xythan
03-07-2006, 03:47 PM
I'm a chemistry geek, I pronounce it "^O^"

Hip-hip hooray for C4H10O!!!

excalibur
03-07-2006, 10:18 PM
Hip-hip hooray for C4H10O!!!
but isn't alcohol C2H6O2???

Gruntfuttock
04-07-2006, 01:58 PM
Another expression I hate is "surfing the net". You're not surfing at all, and there's not a surfboard in sight!

beowulf437
04-07-2006, 03:27 PM
If'n I'm gonna write like I talk, watcha gonna do about it.

muppet
04-07-2006, 03:37 PM
If'n I'm gonna write like I talk, watcha gonna do about it.
Why hay thayre cleetus.

ShinymetalASS
04-07-2006, 04:32 PM
"When all's said and done...."....

Well, if everything has been said and done, what the hell are you adding to the end of that statement.

If all is said and done, SHUT UP!

Snapple
04-07-2006, 04:55 PM
I used to miss-pronounce fatigue, so it would sound like fat- e- gu , that one took me ages to work out what it actually was, I felt so freaking dumb when I realised