WTF?! stop fucking with my cartoons!

[iaidoka]

WARNING: Rant ahead.

Before I went to bed today, I watched some morning toons.. and wow, new series of inspector gadget AND new series of teenage mutant ninja turtles !! :eek:

AND THE BOTH SUCKED! :mad:

How it pained me to see too old, old friends that helped waste a couple years of my afternoons turned into a warped parody that jumps around like a "motherfucking jack fucking terrior". :swear:

I mean, these cartoons are BUSY. I think they are worried if they stick to a frame for longer than 3 seconds these obviously attention deficit disorder children will change chanels.

first off; the animation is crappy. I suppose they think it looks cool, but it doesnt. Its crappy.

I shall now pick apart a consistency error in a childrens cartoon! Why? BECAUSE ORIGINAL TMNT ROCKED, OK? screw turtles: the next generation. :swear:

Said wanna-be turtles and japped up splinter (have you seen that coco pops add with "evil sensei"? like that.. except at least evil sensei is sorta funny, and wears the same uniform as i do ^_^ ) are in their cave, standing on poles, with the lights out. Splinter says "this is to focus the mind" and other corny ripped off bushido crap. However, HOWEVER, Casey Jones wanders in and knocks over all the polls.. making all the turtles AND splinter fall to the ground.

wtf, splinter is teaching them to be ready for anything and be in harmony with their surroundings.. THEN FALLS FLAT ON HIS FACE.

blah, 8th dan my ass. 7th kyu maybe..:grr:


oh yeah, and wow the new turtle into song sucks! as hyper and stupid as the show itself

And dont even get me started on Inspector Gadget.. they have changed his uniform (wtf?!), and he has two tard robot cadets or something that follow him around... becuase obviously a show should never focus much on the character its based on.

i felt i was watching these out of morbid curiousity.. like rotton.com or something.

well, while im on this indulgent diatribe, id like to talk about the next cartoon that was on (seriously do they even make good cartoons anymore?): BAYBLADES. What the fuck is with this stupid shit? Have you ever seen anything more obviously created just to market something to sell?

At least transormers were marketing some real nifty shit. I had optimus prime, Soundwave, and this cool Deceptacon that turned into a mech, a train and a shuttle. broke it in about 3 days ^_^.

Instead, these bunch of tards just watch the spinning things spin... "CAN I HOLD OUT? I cant let them down, I must continue!" All they are freaking doing is watching the spinners spin.. yet somehow that counts as participating or something, I dont know I couldnt watch anymore..

It actually managed to make Dragonball Z look more acceptable.. I mean hell that takes some work.

ok. i feel slightly better. It just hurts, you know?

[Naiad]

:eek:

I can't believe they've remade Gadget...

I knew they were re-doing Turtles and I was kinda vibed to see one of the new eps of that...Well not anymore...Although in typical me-style I will check it out anyway...

It's all just part of this "we're out of ideas - let's re-make fucking everything" theme which pretty much every major US media company is going through...

Next they'll go and exhume Bob Hope because they don't think anyone alive is funny anymore...

Well, I'm writing a book and it will be cool...And I've decided that it's not like anything else people have done!!...So there!!!!...Actually it probably is, but I just haven't read that extensively...:rolleyes:

[Goat Boy]

I have posted it before, but what the hell. Get your old school cartoons here: http://www.aowz68.dsl.pipex.com/cartoons/index.shtml

I am currnetly downloading the original X-men cartoons. They are fucking cool.

edit: I'm downloading the x-men from kazaa not from that site, just thought I should add that.

[oracle]

One question: Is Penny still in the new Gadget? And if so, does it even followv the same model as the old cartoon ie. Penny solves the case, but Gadget gets all the praise?

The problem with remaking these cartoons, is that kids of today won't see them for how shit they arre, because they're too young to remember the classics.

Why do they even bother with remaking them. I mean, surely the production costs of making a new cartoon must be alot more than the syndication costs to rescreen the old ones.

[gamooma]

Unbelievable! Is there nothing they won't remake? Is nothing sacred?
You're right. They just don't make good cartoons any more. I didn't stop watching cartoons because I got too old for them... I stopped because the cartoons today are shite.:grr:

[BlueBoy]

Originally posted by gamooma
You're right. They just don't make good cartoons any more. I didn't stop watching cartoons because I got too old for them... I stopped because the cartoons today are shite.:grr:

Somewhere on this site is a list of cartoons that will prove you wrong.

[SOC]

The death of decent cartoons began the day Scrappy Doo entered the Mystery machine!!!:swear:

[iaidoka]

>One question: Is Penny still in the new Gadget?

Well in the episode I watched, she only appears once to talk to gadget about something or other. She informed him of no data, but other than that played no part in the show.

I mean, wtf is that? Penny should be the one running around after Gadget, and kicking ass with her computer book (I asked my mom for a computer book like Pennys, she said maybe.. 13 YEARS LATER THE BITCH STILL HASNT DELIVERED !)..

I havnt watched enough episodes (hah! no big loss) to tell.. maybe she does more... Anyway, the new Penny sucks anyway.

>I didn't stop watching cartoons because I got too old for them... I stopped because the cartoons today are shite.

One word, my friend. "anime."

>The death of decent cartoons began the day Scrappy Doo entered the Mystery machine!!!

Aha. Aha. Whats cute is in the Scooby Doo movie, they even accnoledge this.. (At one point, They are reflecting on the "Good old times" of mystery inc.. and say it was all great until HE showed up !)

[Naiad]

Fuck that! I had a total crush on animated Penny when I was a youngster!!!

She rocked my world!!

:mad:

Oh yeah - and iaidoka is right - Anime is still the shit...Americans have forgotten how to make cartoons entirely...

Edited: Because I can.

[iaidoka]

Heh, well I had a real crush on "Gadget" from Chip and Dale rescue rangers ^_^.

[robotoverflow]

Originally posted by iaidoka
One word, my friend. "anime."
I dunno, after the robotech and gundam originals there haven't been many cool animes that haven't been obscure and stupid as hell. At least out of the ones i've watched.

The new robotech looks cool but the dialogue is stupid at times.

[iaidoka]

Originally posted by Peregrine
I dunno, after the robotech and gundam originals there haven't been many cool animes that haven't been obscure and stupid as hell. At least out of the ones i've watched.

The new robotech looks cool but the dialogue is stupid at times.

your watching mech anime and wondering about dialogue ? well theres your problem.. do you watch porn and complain about the plot ? ^__^.

mech anime is there to look pretty. like "macross zero". now there is some NICE mechs.. firmly pointing out "hey, we OWN mech design!"

if i want dialogue, ill watch something like rurouni kenshin seishohen.. or saishuuheiki kanojo.

and if i want to watch an awsome movie that fills me with the wonder and enchantment of being 8 years old again, ill watch neko no ongaeshi.

[robotoverflow]

Yeah I guess you're right about the mech anime, though one excepion was Escaflowne which was pretty good even though it was loosely based around mechs.

I have been meaning to give kenshin a shot but haven't gotten around to it yet. It doesn't help that I can only ever find it in RM format. :p

[beowulf437]

There are still good cartoons being made today like "Courage the Cowardly Dog" but there is crap as well. There has always been crap we just tend to forget about it.

It has however pained me when they bring back a cartoon that I have loved with a "New" version. Usually in trying to 'update' the show they just ruin it. They did this with Johnny Quest, Speed Racer, and if you haven't seen the latest incarnation of Transformers it sucks too.

[iaidoka]

RM?! *holds up a cross* "stay back! STAY BACK!"

Well the only anime I can think of asociated with mechs that has plot is Neon Genesis Evangelion.. however in that case the Eva's definately come second to the overall story and plot.. sort of like

"angst angst angst angst... ok go trash an angel. angst angst angst angst angst angst.. what the, another angel ? "

If you dont understand eva, thats ok. its a precursor that you have a doctorate in religion and phsycology. You dont so much "learn" about the plot.. your gleem as much understanding as you may ^__^. *hugs nge*

[Nandragon]

Originally posted by SOC
The death of decent cartoons began the day Scrappy Doo entered the Mystery machine!!!:swear:

I HEAR ya!

[reaperman]

Have to agree with SOC, scrappy doo totally wrecked scooby for me, i used to love that cartoon, then this wanker tough guy puppy comes along, like he'd been taking steroids or some shit. Totally screwed up the scoody doo vibe.

[Nandragon]

There was Scrappy, Scooby and another Scrappy's cousin...wore a hat, had long wiskers....

[Movius]

Originally posted by Nandragon
There was Scrappy, Scooby and another Scrappy's cousin...wore a hat, had long wiskers....
Scooby Doo had a cousin called Scooby Dum.

[Nandragon]

And There YOU are.


I loved Josey and The Pussycats till Smoo the ghost came on the scene.

They've redone The Archies too. Now Archie is a vampire hunter and Veronica HATES anything to do with mysteries. Gone to Shit I tell ya!

But now the new X-men now THAT's something to watch!

[geggle]

Originally posted by Nandragon
They've redone The Archies too. Now Archie is a vampire hunter and Veronica HATES anything to do with mysteries. Nooooooo! Say it ain't so!!!

[Naiad]

Descent Anime series (I'm leaving out movies here) of recent times:

Noir
Love Hina
Berserk
Full Metal Panic (Fucking rules - comedy; mechs; panty shots - what more could you ask?)
Irresponsible Captain Tylor (not really new - but next to Ranma 1/2, probably the funniest I've ever seen)
Chobits

American Cartoons worth their salt from the last 5 years:

Invader Zim
The Tick
Earthworm Jim
Spiderman
X-Men

Evangelion bored me shitless...

Anyone else??...I'm drunk...Struggling... :p

[Blunt]

The new Transformers cartoons that have been churned out (ie Robots in Disgues, Armada, and even that load of CG shite known as Beast Wars) have been total bollocks, but salvation can be found in the new DreamWave comic books being created about or based on the classic 'bots and 'cons. "More Than Meets The Eye" can be seen to be set basically a few years after season 2 and takes an alternative path from where the movie picked up. Classic Transformer characters in darker stories make for some brilliant reading (already in it's 2nd series now). "The War Within" is a retelling of pre-earth shenanigans, featuring again the classic characters we all know and love but with different transformations (hey, this is before they came to earth and aquired car and plane forms). Another darker and enthralling read. And just starting to infiltrate all fine comic shops are 2 different Transformers VS GI JOE comics, one set in modern day, the other in WWII. These are all great reads and I urge any fan of the 'olden days' Optimus Prime and Megatron who have been disgusted by all the new cartoons, to pick up these comics or trade paperbacks post haste! You will not regret it!

But this does not mean all new series based on classic ones automatically suck big giant man cock. The new Turtles series is rather good retelling of the story about 4 'hereo's in a half shell' and their pet rat (the new series has also spawned a comic series by DreamWave that shows different points of view throughout the cartoon's narrative. Ain't half bad). People say "damn, America is rehashing old series, what a bunch of cock gobblers" then procede to proclaim anime as the best thing since sliced Kentucky Fried Cuntucklets, failing to remember that a fair portion of anime is conprised of remakes or alternative stories (ie Gundam, Astro Boy, Tenchi, Digi Charat, etc) and some are great, others mediocre, and some are just plain shithouse. And saying that American animation is crap is a fucken stupid thing to proclaim. Have you not marveled at the wonders of Futurama, Daria, Clerks: The Animated Series, South Park, Batman: The Animated Series, X-Men, Spiderman, The Tick, Beavis & Butthead, Robin (okay that one's Swedish....), and of course The Simpsons, to only name a few? To call these wonderful animated shows "crap" would indeed be quite silly. As silly as a bag of flaming testicles on Play School.

Don't get me wrong, I love Japanese animation. Fuck, my favourite anime AND manga (don't confuse them! BAH!) both happen to be Great Teacher Onizuka (if not my favourite show and reading type thingy of all). But I cannot stand people who watch only anime and call all other kinds of animation bullshit. That in itself is fucking stupid and your the one who is missing out on some terrific shows.

Errrr.....in closing......bah, fuck this serious shit!

*REMOVES PANTS*

Much better......

Oh, and by the way iaidoka, the Decepticon that turned into a spaceship and a locomotive was named Astrotrain.

[TehGovzog]

Astrotrain? Hey, he's the one who had all the Decepticons piled into him after Megatron was whomped in the movie!
And whats the deal with Galvatron? *grumble*
He's -alrighty- as an evil bad guy, but.. bah. I'll take my Megatron anyday. *grin*

[iaidoka]

>Descent Anime series (I'm leaving out movies here) of recent >times: Noir, Love Hina ,Berserk

I love you! ^__^. If you ever come to melbourne ill burn you the full manga of love hina / berserk.

Shin no noir kicks absolute ass ! Man every new girl introduced in the anime is even sexier and more deadly ^__^.

I would like to add to this list of "decent anime series of recent times"

Rurouni Kenshin: Kyoto Saga (They thankfully stick very close to the manga, so it owns just like the manga.)
Cowboy Bebop
FLCL
Excel Saga <--- ROXORS! Bring on Puni Puni Poemi
Inuyasha
Obuchuban Ebichu !!
Saishuuheiki Kanojo

>failing to remember that a fair portion of anime is conprised of remakes or alternative stories

The difference being, the new new series of Tetsuwan Atom is shit hot.

>. And saying that American animation is crap is a fucken stupid thing to proclaim.

Well I for one didnt say that.. American animation is the only thing left I watch in english.. (and hell I cant remember i watched something that wasnt animated). I love simpsons, futurama and south park. They are original, creative ideas .. not worthless remakes.

>Fuck, my favourite anime AND manga (don't confuse them! BAH!)

whats anime agian? isnt that cartoons or something? and whats manga.. is that the stuff with tentacles ? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[SOC]

Originally posted by Blunt
*snip*
And saying that American animation is crap is a fucken stupid thing to proclaim. Have you not marveled at the wonders of Futurama, Daria, Clerks: The Animated Series, South Park, Batman: The Animated Series, X-Men, Spiderman, The Tick, Beavis & Butthead, Robin (okay that one's Swedish....), and of course The Simpsons, to only name a few? To call these wonderful animated shows "crap" would indeed be quite silly. As silly as a bag of flaming testicles on Play School.

And how, oh how, could you leave out the brilliant, wonderful, surreal ... DUCKMAN???

For shame, Mr Blunt, for shame... please put your pants back on. Now.:grr:

[beowulf437]

Love Hina, Cowboy BeBop and Inuyasha are excelent animes. I guess you guys don't get a lot of really new american animation there.

Some newer american cartoons you might enjoy.

Courage the Cowardly Dog-uber creepy and funny

From Popmatters
Courage the Cowardly Dog is a cartoon for kids, but really freaky kids. Village of the Damned kids. It's Lassie on mescaline, The X-Files with fewer flashlights, or in other words, terrific for adults.

The Oblongs-is just so wrong on so many levels

The Aqua Teen Hunger Force-what's not love love about fast food battling enemies like a diaper wearing giant spider rapper that's addicted to sugar trying drill a hole to hell so that he can get demons to help with his diet pill pyramid scheme (a real plot summary from Frylock).

Johnny Bravo- From the creator of Family Guy (need I say more)

[SamBo]

Originally posted by SOC
And how, oh how, could you leave out the brilliant, wonderful, surreal ... DUCKMAN???

For shame, Mr Blunt, for shame... please put your pants back on. Now.:grr:
please don't be forgetting Sam 'n' Max: Freelance Police
:D

[Cassa]

Originally posted by Blunt
As silly as a bag of flaming testicles on Play School.

I don't really have anything to contribute, I just wanted to quote this. Sam n Max rocked, is that still showing on cable?

[iaidoka]

yo beowulf437 , thanks for the headsup on some good merican toons.. ill have to check em out. GO BITTORENT GO!

i wanna know what ever happened to the supposed "new" series of ren and stimpy, that was going to be a lot more adult and off the handle... I guess it was all just a terrible, cruel hoax.

Iv only been able to d/l 2 episodes of sam+max, but wow, are they funny =). getting more is on my "must aquire" list. rather big list really.. its easier to get than that Shinto katana thats also there...

[Movius]

Originally posted by iaidoka
whats anime agian? isnt that cartoons or something? and whats manga.. is that the stuff with tentacles ? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Manga is used to refer to still images, comics, etc. Whereas anime (abbreviation of animeshan.) refers specifically to animation.

[ThreeChordMe]

Cowboy Bebop is the toon to end all toons. Other great anime includes Inu Yasha and Lupin III...Trigun would be cooler if Bebop weren't so superior (I can't help but compare).

I really have to agree with Beowolf here. I *adore* Courage, and Aqua Teen Hunger Force is my favorite show in the Adult Swim lineup. Home Movies is probably my favorite toon of all (of course, it's not in regular programming anymore). There's a show called The Venture Brothers that I've only seen one episode of, and a long time ago. However, that show was awesome. Sealab 2021 is just damn funny, and the better episodes of Spaceghost Coast to Coast are classic. Harvey Birdman is one of the best-paced shows I've seen, and it's wickedly funny. Also, anything associated with Stephen Colbert can't be half bad.

SOC is the man for mentioning Duckman, too.

Let's not forget Captain Planet and the Planeteers, people. Remember that kid who had the power of Heart and a monkey? What a loser.

[SamBo]

Please don't flame me for this, but in my opinion Cowboy Beebop was nothing special

[robotoverflow]

Originally posted by SamBo
Please don't flame me for this, but in my opinion Cowboy Beebop was nothing special
I'm gonna have to agree with that. I caught a mate of mine watching the last episode and It didn't seem all that special to me either. I can usually judge how good a series is based on a single episode, so don't go off at me for writing it off before giving it a chance. :)
Originally posted by ThreeChordMe
Remember that kid who had the power of Heart and a monkey? What a loser.
Couldn't have said it better myself. :p

[ThreeChordMe]

Originally posted by SamBo
Please don't flame me for this, but in my opinion Cowboy Beebop was nothing special

We're all entitled to our opinions, though I can't imagine how Bebop would fail to at least get someone's attention. The animation is truly beautiful, and the entire series is so perfectly calculated. The humor is optimal as well. And the theme songs!

Sambo, I have to disagree with you whole-heartedly. I'm curious, what did/didn't strike you? Why didn't Bebop do it for you?

[oracle]

I don't watch anime much at all. Apart from owning Akira, Ghost in the Shell, and Spirited Away on DVD, that's about it for me. I don't watch any anime series at all, really, as I hardly find them interesting.

However, a friend lent me his Cowboy Bebop DVD's, and I must say that it was very enjoyable. I personally do not see how you can make an objective judgment after one viewing, as you do not know the characters... An integral part of like any series.

After watching the first 3 DVD's, I'd say that Cowboy Bebop utterly rules!

... This coming from a guy that doesn't normally enjoy watching anime series.

[a|A]

Watch out, they've also remade He-Man and the Masters of the Universe.

[Lab_rat]

TOP TEN REASONS WHY "SCOOBY DOO" WAS A DRUG-INFLUENCED CARTOON
------------------------------------------------------------------------

1.Scooby and Shaggy were always being freaked out by ghosts and ghouls,
but no one else saw them before Scooby and Shaggy.

2.Scooby and Shaggy always had the munchies.

3.Shaggy always thought Scooby was talking and was the only one who could
hear him and understand him.

4.Scooby and Shaggy always fell into the trap that was intended for the
monster because they were tripping over themselves and couldn't see
where they were going.

5.They were always deluded and warped by thinking they were dressed up in
some costumes and entertained the monster.

6.Shaggy always said "like" to the extreme, i.e. "like ZOIKS, Scoob, let's
get outta here!!" - what the hell is a 'zoik'?

7.Scooby and Shaggy were always the ones in the back of the van (doing who
knows what).

8.They drove around in the MYSTERY MACHINE, which had that weird trippy
design on it's side.

9.Shaggy and Scooby were always giddy and laughing.

10.Look at Shaggy; the way he dressed, his goatee, etc., 'nuff said.

[robotoverflow]

I think I can make an objective judgement based on one episode, because like it or not, much anime is crap, and I can see their crappy qualities from far, far away.

I'm sick of the "You have to give it a chance" defense.

I'm not gonna sit though 25 episodes of largely unfunny Japanese humour, fan service and pointless, monotonous drivel because I have to "give it a chance". I'll watch something if it manages to engross me in the story and the characters. If I can't see the story going anywhere or don't find the characters interesting I won't bother watching the rest. I also don't care how "deep" or "complex" it may be. I'm not an idiot and I can understand a narrative. I understood the Matrix the first time I saw it while idiots were scratching their heads in disarray, so when I don't understand the theme/story in an Anime it's because it is needlessly complicated or obscure, or just poorly written. I draw the line at having to put effort into watching a series because the writers don't have the ability to write single episodes that make me want to watch more.

(Oracle, this rant isn't squarely aimed at you. It's just that i'm sick of being told that I haven't put enough effort into watching something before criticising it.)

[oracle]

Oh wow! You understood Matrix the first time! Let me pick you brain, oh wise one.

/sarcasm

We're all reasonably intelligent people here. I'm sure the vast majority of people here understood it the first time... but what does that have to do with anything, anyway?

My point was that you watched the last ep, so you're already expected to be familiar with the Cowboy Bebop "universe", and they might also take certain liberties with the plot as well.

My only suggestion would be watch the first DVD (I think it's 3 ep's at an hour total) and then draw a conclusion. I'm not saying that you will love it (or even like it) by then, as (like me) you're probably not that huge an anime fan. I won't tell you to "give it a chance", as I'm generally intuitive to things I like too... but it feels like you're telling me what sort of music a band plays, after listening to one of their songs.

Edit: Spelling

[robotoverflow]

I guess that matrix thing didn't really make sense, but that's 'cause I was in rant mode there, but in referring to it I was trying to point out that i'm not a moron - I wasn't trying to prove that i'm uber-intelligent. :)

What I was trying to say is that it doesn't take much intelligence to understand a well written/animated story, and when I don't understand one it doesn't mean i'm an idiot - It means it's a poorly constructed story, and no amount of praise from Anime nuts can change that. *cough neon genesis cough*

[iaidoka]

Originally posted by Movius
Manga is used to refer to still images, comics, etc. Whereas anime (abbreviation of animeshan.) refers specifically to animation.

I was being sarcastic, hence the ":rolleyes: " ^__^.

As for cowboy bebop, I thaught it was average until the 3rd DVD, then things starting getting more interesting and enjoyable. It is nothing groundbreaking, its just good old fashioned entertainment =).

The first DVD has 5 episodes, with the 5th episode being the first Vicious sighting in the series =).

Originally posted by Peregrine


What I was trying to say is that it doesn't take much intelligence to understand a well written/animated story, and when I don't understand one it doesn't mean i'm an idiot - It means it's a poorly constructed story, and no amount of praise from Anime nuts can change that. *cough neon genesis cough*


You dont understand Neon Genesis Evangelion? *teeheeheeheeheee* And here I was really impressed with your mad matrix skilz too.. oh well. Dont worry about plots you dont understand mate, as long as you keep away from japanese anime its not going to happen too often.. America doesnt like confusing its audience =).

[108]

Originally posted by iaidoka
You dont understand Neon Genesis Evangelion? *teeheeheeheeheee* And here I was really impressed with your mad matrix skilz too.. oh well. Dont worry about plots you dont understand mate, as long as you keep away from japanese anime its not going to happen too often.. America doesnt like confusing its audience =).

Anime-elitists. Almost as annoying as Mac-elitists.

[Naiad]

*Considers giving Bebop a chance*...

I usually shy away from anime which is SUPER popular (no - seriously, when I started watching Ranma etc, most people didn't know that Japan did animation)...Now I try to watch stuff which is only just out of Japan, so it hasn't had a chance to be marketed in the States...

I did eventually watch some Evangelion, but I wasn't taken with it (see previous post)...

But I'll have to give Bebop a shot...I have no judgements for or against it because I've only seen like 1 ep and it was dubbed (hate dubbed - am one of those annoying purists who like the original Japanese)

Is it me or is the main character guy (can't remember his name) in Bebop like a total clone of Lupin??...

[GeeWhiz]

In regards to Cowboy Bebop I think the movie was the best

[beowulf437]

There are a few fan sites that compare Spike to Lupin but I don't see it. Seeing the last epsode of Cowboy BeBop you are seeing the second half of a two parter.

The first time I saw the Matrix I was deconstructing the plot holes. My wife hates that about me.

Some people just don't like animation as a storytelling medium. A friend of mine hated any animation beyond Tom & Jerry and the Roadrunner. There people out there that violently dislike particular story telling genre, my dad hated science fiction, we had a foster child that hated westerns. Me, I like a well constructed story.

[iaidoka]

Originally posted by 108
Anime-elitists. Almost as annoying as Mac-elitists.

Anime is leet, but im not an elitest ^_^. I just found it annoying that just because someone didnt understand something, they dismiss it as not existing (ie plot, story).. I dont understand nuclear physics, but i wont deny it exists ^__^.

[]-[Å®ÐRøçK]

I thought Hellsing rocked...

[robotoverflow]

Originally posted by iaidoka
You dont understand Neon Genesis Evangelion? *teeheeheeheeheee* And here I was really impressed with your mad matrix skilz too.. oh well.
When did I mention that I didn't understand it? Oh wait, I guess you probably assumed I didn't get it because I didn't recognise it for the Masterpiece of narrative that it is. Right? Why don't you do ahead and explain to me why Neon Genesis Evangelion is the Paragon of all Anime. I'd love to hear how its second-rate exploration of the human psyche should enlighten me. I'd love to hear how the mere incorporation of historical artifacts such as the Dead Sea Scrolls into the story somehow proves it's excellence.

I've watched it one and a half times. I understood it the first time I watched it. I thought it was okay. I then went back to watch it again to make sure I didn't miss anything, then I ended up skipping to the battle scenes. And that wasn't because I only watch anime for the battles, or because it hurts my brain when I try to understand a simple plot, but because after you take out all the monotonous, uninspiring crap, that's the only good part left.


Dont worry about plots you dont understand mate, as long as you keep away from japanese anime its not going to happen too often.. America doesnt like confusing its audience =).
I can recognise crap American Animation. I can recognise a crap Japanese Anime. Theres a fair share of both floating around. Other than slight differences in theme and humour, there is nothing that can make either strange or quirky enough to be confusing. The only thing that could possibly make an animation, or indeed any other type or narrative confusing is poor technique.

The major difference between the two is that shitty Anime is defended by Anime-elitists because they are so blinded by their misguided love for all things anime that they can no longer recognise the poor technique plaguing much of it.

[iaidoka]

"misguided love for all things anime"

heh, now who is jumping to their own conclusions.

meh.

one question.. are you watching the anime in english dub? If so it takes a lot of fun out of it i find. poor translations and flat acting.

[beowulf437]

As a fan of anime I would be the first to state not all anime is good. I've been an amine fan since before many of you were born and like with everything else at least 75% of it is crap. Sometimes it's fun crap like bad B movies but other times it just stupid.

I watched Doomed Megalopolis a few weeks ago and found it boring and pointless. I don't know how many bad ones I've seen, some times I'll give a show a couple of episodes to grab me if it isn't too stupid.

[iaidoka]

Saw a couple of boring ones at Manifest.. maybe they get more interesting. I didnt really find "wicked city" too interesting either..

Actually one of my favorite anime, Rurouni Kenshin, I thaught was an absolute bomb. This was back in the day before I discovered english dubs sucked =)..

I brought the first 2 DVD.. watched.. laughed and thaught "this is so sad its sorta amusing".. put on my shelf untouched for 6 months.

One day was bored, thaught "lets try it in japanese with english subs and see what its like".. and loved it! the cornyness was gone. I now own 16 DVD's in the series.
*always watch anime in its original japanese people!*

I wont buy the 3rd season though, becasue it sucks. They got a different writer than from the manga and it turns to shit.. America isnt the only one that can spoil a good thing =).

[DodgyAmnesiac]

i saw flcl for the first time this week... my jaw hit the floor. it was so well done.

cowboy beebop IS the shit. Ed rulz!!!

sealab: 2021 is one of the funniest shows on adult swim folowed closely by aquateen, home movies and the rest. << that my sick little non-friend is just the cold breath of the reaper breathing down your neck.-- i beg your pardon sir-- the plague boy, you're riddled with it. i bet your lymph nodes are as big as cats >> *tee hee* oh captin murphy, you make me laugh.

a good anime, for me, must have great music. CB and flcl have such good music. it draws me into the story when the music ebbs and flows so well with the action.

as for the shitty remakes of good ol' classics, to quote mallrats... they are just trying to capture the 90s audience with a staple of 70s television (insert whatever decade u wish). i hear they even redid GiJoe. << sigh >>

as long as good anime keeps up as it is right now, i will be just fine. but they really should keep away from the classics. let them be. they rox0rD then and they will rox0r now. as the saying goes... if it aint broke, don't fix it!

[SamBo]

Invader Zim is the shiznit :D

[Thyrd]

This thread was from ages ago, and in a wierd twist I was reading it at the exact same time that you posted that sambo.

Back on topic, Cowboy bebop and naruto rock, and im getting the cowboy bebop boxed set in a week and a half.