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The Black Dog
17-09-2003, 11:48 PM
I saw a chameleon today, he was dressed in blue and had a hand held speed gun.
I'm sick of these pricks hiding behind cars, parking their fucking bikes behind fences, swooping on the unsuspecting motorist and ruining their day.
Maybe it's not them ... maybe it's the instructions that the state government of Queensland has no fucking money so go out and get us some. If only the Queensland Govt was a little more frugal, we wouldn't have these half dicks jumping out with smirks on their faces, asking dumbass questions like "Why were you speeding?" (as if there is an answer that will get you off - besides "Sorry mate , I'M IN THE JOB")
But then they go and hide in the suburbs, in the widest 50km zone in the fucking world. It's almost a fucking main road !!!
Why don't they go out and chase some real criminals.
I hope I fuck his wife.
:swear: :grr: :fu:
If you don't want to get caught, don't break the fucking law.
Aardvark
18-09-2003, 12:26 AM
Or get some copsniffin' senses
Play by averages. If you haven't seen a cop all day and you come to an area fairly mainish with either a third lane or a bit off to the side where a car can be pulled over without disrupting traffic, it's a school day and people ahead of you seem to be doing ten under the limit, you should probably stop speeding.
Or just don't speed
Urban3300
18-09-2003, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by The Black Dog
I'm sick of these pricks hiding behind cars, parking their fucking bikes behind fences, swooping on the unsuspecting motorist and ruining their day.
I'm sick of people who first break the law and then complain about getting caught. "He who plays the game must face the consequences of the game."
The Black Dog
18-09-2003, 12:36 AM
Ok .. I'm also pissed off at myself for falling into their trap.
I'm also pissed of because I knew they were out in force today ... did anyone hear the rundown of the radars on the radio?
I'm also pissed off at the slut who nearly ran me off the road 1 minute earlier (speeding past me on a differrent road), so the last thing I was thinking about was my speed.
However ... this is Bitching and Rants ... so I can have one.
Holster
18-09-2003, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by Urban3300
I'm sick of people who first break the law and then complain about getting caught. "He who plays the game must face the consequences of the game."
Oh get off your fucking high horse you whinging stupid prick and stuff
nb: I LOBE jOO still
utopian
18-09-2003, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by Aardvark
Or just don't speed
That's crazy and stupid and it will never work.
MisterBishi
18-09-2003, 01:16 AM
If the Government were more frugal then the Police Force would have even less money.
King_Crud
18-09-2003, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by Holster
Oh get off your fucking high horse you whinging stupid prick and stuff
nb: I LOBE jOO still
Good call, 50km/h is a fucking revenue raising piece of shit joke. The Italians recently increased their speed limits. Smartest fucking government in the world! (except for the fact Burlisconi is corrupt and they are far from the smartest government in the world)
Urban3300
18-09-2003, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by Holster
Oh get off your fucking high horse you whinging stupid prick and stuff
nb: I LOBE jOO still
STFU NOOB! :p
Should we continue this here: http://forums.zgeek.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10381&perpage=15&pagenumber=1 ? ;)
King_Crud: I see you failed to notice that holster was only joking.
Holster
18-09-2003, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by King_Crud
Good call, 50km/h is a fucking revenue raising piece of shit joke. The Italians recently increased their speed limits. Smartest fucking government in the world! (except for the fact Burlisconi is corrupt and they are far from the smartest government in the world)
50km/h in a residential area is a fucking great idea...
I have a an 8 yr child and the thought of some fuckwit going 60 - 80 on my street fucking makes me want to stab fickwits that think that 50km/h is to slow in the head with a clublock
Have you ever seen a kid get hit by a car?....it's not nice
druid
18-09-2003, 02:39 AM
40 km/h at residential and city areas is even better. Statistics show that dropping the cruise speed from 50 to 40 increase pedestrian survival chances significantly. Come on, you're not really in so much of a hurry.
Chrissy
18-09-2003, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by Holster
50km/h in a residential area is a fucking great idea...
I have a an 8 yr child and the thought of some fuckwit going 60 - 80 on my street fucking makes me want to stab fickwits that think that 50km/h is to slow in the head with a clublock
Have you ever seen a kid get hit by a car?....it's not nice
My feelings exactly.
I did see a kid get hit by a car outside my son's school, not pretty.
Aardvark
18-09-2003, 03:13 AM
I reckon if police were cracking down on jaywalking as hard as they crack down on speeding, the number of pedestrians run down would be virtually elimitated.
Holster
18-09-2003, 03:21 AM
Originally posted by Aardvark
I reckon if police were cracking down on jaywalking as hard as they crack down on speeding, the number of pedestrians run down would be virtually elimitated.
Take a look around few residential streets? see any crossings, lights??? there will be a few, but only near schools, where is a person meant to cross, in areas like this it is expected the pedestrian takes due care when crossing.....but that means fuck all when some 18yr P plater in a stock 6 that has been riced up comes flying down the rd at 80km/h and spreads some kids brain across his bonnet and windscreen
kleph
18-09-2003, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by Chrissy
My feelings exactly.
I did see a kid get hit by a car outside my son's school, not pretty.
when i was a journalist i covered a few of these. it´s one of the worst things i´ve ever had to do.
a traffic sergeant i once knew told me that the primary function of his team was to ensure traffic in his city continued to move fluidly. by enforcing the laws this typically would happen - speeders disrupt the flow of traffic, u-turns and jaywalking interrupt it as well. no accidents translates directly into no problems.
there was one exception to this rule... school zones. he told me - and i quote - that he didn´t give a flying fuck about the flow of traffic in this situation. the number one priority was making sure the children in the area were safe. his officers took great pleasure in zapping speeders and had no problem backing up traffic a mile if they had to.
and i never covered a kid being hit in that city either.
Chrissy
18-09-2003, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by Holster
Take a look around few residential streets? see any crossings, lights??? there will be a few, but only near schools, where is a person meant to cross, in areas like this it is expected the pedestrian takes due care when crossing.....but that means fuck all when some 18yr P plater in a stock 6 that has been riced up comes flying down the rd at 80km/h and spreads some kids brain across his bonnet and windscreen
In my area there isn't a crossing or lights outside the school, and only in the last 18 months have the council decided that it might be a plan to have a crossing patrol outside at the beginning and end of the school day.
The parents at the school petitioned to get lights or speed bumps put in, the council's response? 'Not until someone get's killed, until then, the council is unable to assess the 'need' for these measures'
WTF??
If people reduced their speed, less kids would be killed or injured. You can't expect a child to have the same level of care as an adult when crossing roads, even if they have been taught properly by their parents.
By the same token, as a pedestrian, you can take as much care as you damn well please, and, as Holster said, there is nothing you can do about some utter twat, screaming along the road at 30mph over the speed limit and spreading you over his bonnet, be you an adult or child.
If police hiding behind bends, parked cars, bushes, whatever to catch those people who chose to drive to fast, I am all for it.
It might make you think twice before breaking the limit which is there as much for the driver as it is for the pedestrian.
I dealt with the woman who knocked over the 8 year old boy outside my son's school. She was phisically sick when the shock of what she had done hit her.
Imagine if you did kill someone because you were driving too fast? How would you live with that guilt? It'd fuck you up, make no mistake.
The Black Dog
18-09-2003, 08:57 AM
It may surprise you to learn that I am also in favour of 50k speed limits.
But I also want realitic speed limits. The road that I was booked on was more like a main road than a 50k zone. There are no signs .. no schools ..
I'll take a photo of the road and post it later. You can see that it should almost be 4 lanes.
Fuzzy Dice
18-09-2003, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by cray
If you don't want to get caught, don't break the fucking law.
Bingo-Bango, sugar in the gas tank! Your ex-husband strikes again.
nicely put.
Bostonmess
18-09-2003, 09:08 AM
No houses? It only takes a kid to be fetching his ball that's gone over the wall and it's game over. Of course it's the parents fault then for not looking after him properly not the maniac doing eighty, rushing to get to the next set of traffic lights so they can bitch about having to queue.
The Black Dog
18-09-2003, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by Bostonmess
No houses? It only takes a kid to be fetching his ball that's gone over the wall and it's game over. Of course it's the parents fault then for not looking after him properly not the maniac doing eighty, rushing to get to the next set of traffic lights so they can bitch about having to queue.
Yes .. there are houses ...
Have a look around .. a lot of the 70K zones have houses on them. .. So do most of the main roads that are 60 zones.
Spingo
18-09-2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by druid
40 km/h at residential and city areas is even better. Statistics show that dropping the cruise speed from 50 to 40 increase pedestrian survival chances significantly. Come on, you're not really in so much of a hurry.
Do I hear 30? 30 taken by the guy in the ocrner wearing the blue and white chequered hat! Do I hear 20? 20? Yes, from you, the lady with the pram with 2 kids in it who can't bothered looking both ways before crossing the road illegally between pedestrian crossings. Do I hear 10 now? 10? Yes! 10 from the kid who blindly chases his basketball on to the road without looking for oncoming traffic!!!
Here's a tip - how about everyone walks. That will solve the problem of people getting run over by cars!
Yes, the chances of survival of pedestrians increases, but studies have also shown (well in AU at any rate) that the chances of pedestrians being hit by cars has actually risen since the introduction of 50 zones in neighbourhoods. The main causes of people getting hit by cars is due to lack of pedestrian awareness. That being people j-walking, crossing the road at dangerous locations, not crossing at pedestrain crossings, not looking both ways before crossing, etc.
Yes, I have witnessed two people getting run over. One was one of my good frineds wo was walking his bike across the road, and some fuckwit with no license, stolen car, and stolen money in the back of the car ran him down doing 120km/h in a 60 zone and then sped away from the scen of the accident with the cops chasing behind him. No speed limit is going to stop situations like this. The other person I knew who has been killed by a car was my sisters boyfriend's best friend, who got so drunk one night, he passed out in the middle of the road. Lack of pedestrian awareness.. Three people died that night. Him, and two in another car that hit a telegraph pole after swerving to miss him. This was in a 40 zone, by the way, with people driving at 40kph...
The three worst spots for pedestrian carnage in Sydney happen to be in Chatswood, North Sydney, and the city itself. The recent report stated that 80% of these accidents occur at intersections, when pedestrians are not aware of things going on around them. This is why there are numerous pedestrain awareness billboards up in these three cities at the present time.
Anyway, I could rant on and on, but I have to go to work now. I'm amazed that we don't see warning labels on roads saying "Warning - Crossing roads may kill you". :P
Bostonmess
18-09-2003, 09:41 AM
*Looks around*Aaaah yes, speed bumps, speed cameras and joy riders.
I live in the Uk, most roads with houses by the side are thirty mph. Of course most of the times people break the law and do about forty. Personally I can't drive, if I could I might speed a bit but not much. I'm too old. I'm a boring old git as opposed to the youthful "don't give a fuck" boy racers that are so popular on todays cool highways :)
So what sort of car have you got?
druid
18-09-2003, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Spingo
Yes, the chances of survival of pedestrians increases, but studies have also shown (well in AU at any rate) that the chances of pedestrians being hit by cars has actually risen since the introduction of 50 zones in neighbourhoods. The main causes of people getting hit by cars is due to lack of pedestrian awareness. That being people j-walking, crossing the road at dangerous locations, not crossing at pedestrain crossings,
This was new info, I guess the peds are more aware in the northern hemisphere but the traffic seems also a bit more relaxed.
not looking both ways before crossing, etc.
Well you do drive like maniacs here, on the wrong side of the road and all. ;) It's bloody hard to check where the car is coming, could also be turning from behind you. I've found that doing a 360 degree check is a good thing.
I'm amazed that we don't see warning labels on roads saying "Warning - Crossing roads may kill you". :P
The "LOOK >" text is a good start. :)
thingy
18-09-2003, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by druid
The "LOOK >" text is a good start. :)
Not really, it's actually pretty useless. You see, those who are depressed and wouldn't mind getting killed by a car walk around with their heads down and are most likely to see the sign - often it's natural reaction to pay attention in that direction when you see those signs and they wouldn't appreciate the fact it keeps saving their lives. Those with a high self asteem and walk with their heads held high who wouldn't want to be run over and possibly killed will be always looking up and not notice the sign is there spray-painted on the ground, so walk right out into traffic.
Maybe I've thought too much into this?
King_Crud
18-09-2003, 05:43 PM
When i bitched earlier about 50km/h speed limits I didn't clarify. I have no problem in bulit up residential areas but some of the roads I've seen 50 km/h on are a fucking joke. Parramatta Rd for fucks sake. Parramatta rd!!!!!!!!
Chrissy
18-09-2003, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by King_Crud
When i bitched earlier about 50km/h speed limits I didn't clarify. I have no problem in bulit up residential areas but some of the roads I've seen 50 km/h on are a fucking joke. Parramatta Rd for fucks sake. Parramatta rd!!!!!!!!
I don't know which road you are referring to, so I can't comment directly. However, you will probablt find that there is a good reason for it to be limited to the speed it is.
Is it a long straight country road? If so, is it possible that you could be spanking along at 70mph, and some kind of wildlife could wander out in front of you?
You would either swerve to avoid it, and crash, or hit it and crash and in both cases possibly sustain severe injury, or even die?
We have roads like that where I live. One in particular has a limit of 60mph, but people regularly drive much faster along it. There is a common on both sides of the road, on which deer live.
The amount of times I have seen dead deer by the side of the road with a smashed up car a few hundred metres down is incredible.
A mate of mine hit a deer on this road one night. It wrote his car off and left him in hospital with some nasty damage to his legs.
I agree with Spingo that there isn't a whole lot you can do about people walking out without looking. I also agree that you are never going to stop the 'stolen car speeding' problems.
All we can do is teach our kids how to cross the road properly, and take more care ourselves. The other thing we can do is stick to the limits that have been imposed for whatever reason, and stop driving like a bunch of tossers that are more important than anyone else on the road!
kleph
19-09-2003, 02:02 AM
i'd just like to point out my comments and chrissy's prior to it were about school zones - not general residential areas. spingo is very right about the number of accidents and the correlation with speeds.
in the states there has been a trend to put big-ass speed bumps on some residential streets, a move that screws up a normal car's suspension and simply moves the accidents further down the road.
while most of the points here are valid i'd also like to point out one that is increasingly a factor here in the u.s. but often not addressed. the huge increase in the number of suv's and high profile vehicles also tends to increase the possibility of fatalities.
a child struck by a low slung vehicle - say, a honda civic - is likely to be thrown over the hood and behind the car. the force of the blow is diffused - a dangerous event that will probably cause serious injury but is not as likely to kill.
if the same child is struck by a high profile vehicle the force of the blow isn't similarly released. the child's body comes to a complete stop and absorbs the blow before being thrown back the direction they came. this almost always -even at comparitively low speeds- results in internal injuries and unless emergency help is almost immediately available, fatalities.
Bostonmess
19-09-2003, 03:14 AM
I have a conspiracy theory about those speed bumps. Put them all over and it will knacker more cars suspensions thereby making people go to the garage more often, meaning more work for the mechanics and the people that build the parts. Also it will increase the sales of four by fours :D
Spingo
19-09-2003, 09:18 AM
I too share that consiracy theory. They put speed humps, one-lane chicanes, roundabouts and slow-points on our roads to force people to slow down to well under the speed limit. It's a bit rediculous when you have to go over a bump at 10kph when the limit is 50, even for a residential area. For crossings, I can understand. In the middle of a street though...
But how do they pay for all of these "traffic calming" devices? Simple. By lowering the speed limit, it gives them an excuse to book you. While speeding tickets still go into "general revenue", the amount that has to be spent as a result of putting in all of the extra crap that has been installed on the roads has to be offset by some means. It's just conveniant that they chose to lower speed limits, and put police in spots where they hope to catch you out...
Then again, I do have a major gripe with speed cameras. By the time you get the fine, you have forgotten where you were speeding, the circumstance, and the motive. Getting a fine is meaningless, because it does nothing to stop you speeding next time. Can anyone say "revenue raising"?
Also, in regards to police sitting by the side of the road, waiting for people to speed, surely there are better things that a police-person could be doing? Look at the crime rates, look at the amount of illegal drug use, and tell me that sitting by the side of the road, waiting for a motorist going a few clicks over the limit is a valuable use of police resources...
Originally posted by druid
40 km/h at residential and city areas is even better. Statistics show that dropping the cruise speed from 50 to 40 increase pedestrian survival chances significantly. Come on, you're not really in so much of a hurry.
While we're there, why not make it 30km/h?
50km/h speed limits are safer, granted. The way the gov introduced them and 'sign posted' them is a joke!
The Black Dog
19-09-2003, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by big al
While we're there, why not make it 30km/h?
50km/h speed limits are safer, granted. The way the gov introduced them and 'sign posted' them is a joke!
At 30km/h I would go to sleep ... at this speed you start to look at things you shouldn't be looking at while driving.
Obviously the govt can't afford the signposts.
Yeah, apparently they increased speed limits on highways in america (can't remeber the state) and death tolls dropped to lowest EVER recorded.
I think signposted 40km/h speed limits in suburbs make more sense than this generalised 50km/h bullshit.
pleed
19-09-2003, 02:26 PM
I don't get it...
If we can't speed then how are we supposed to get where we are going faster?
Drakin
19-09-2003, 02:48 PM
Alice st newtown, the road is the best example of speed limits/pedestrians/stupidity.
The section im talking about is probably about 100metres maybe 200, anyway, its a 60km/h zone. It also has a 40km/h school zone, there are two pedestrian islands and one crossing (with lady for school hours) The crossing is on a speed hump.
The number of people that i see on this road crossing at none of the provided facilities. ALL are adults and _ALL_ HAVE YOUNG PRIMARY KIDS!
Teach them some common fucking sense.
RASPUTIN
19-09-2003, 04:01 PM
I've hit someone in Refern.
I was driving along Botany Road, coming up to Redfern Rd. I saw this drug wasted bitch walk with her head down straight towards the pedestrian crossing (one controlled by lights and her one was a red man). I figured oh oh and started slowing down. And guess what the silly bitch walked straight out.
Luckily for her I was down to about 30km/hr. So she went wack into the front of my car, did a somersault, head butted the sill on the top of the windows and went splat onto the foot path.
I went bugger and stopped, not skidded as I will never skid or swerve to avoid an accident. Then she got up and ran away leaving all of the shit she was carrying scattered every where on the ground.
Now the problem I have was if I had been going faster (I was 20km under the speed limit when I hit) I would have been able to sue the wasted mole for damaging my car. Dog cause $600-00 worth of damage.
Now I know this is slightly off topic but I thought you may have wanted to know lol.
BTW everytime I get booked speeding I blame my self for being a stupid dick for getting caught :)
Does anyone know the top speed of the Highway patrols cars?
Bostonmess
19-09-2003, 05:41 PM
They're flinging speed cameras up all over here. I presume, like all the new traffic lights, originally funded by our huge 70 percent council tax rise. Apparently they have started paying for themselves with a sixty pound fine. You also get three points on the license, a guy a work has already been caught twice, two more and he's banned. I can see the day coming when they will lower the points penalty :). They say most of the revenue goes into putting new ones up but they also say there has been significantly fewer accidents in areas with cameras.
I'm waiting for someone to run into the back of someone else who's braking for the cameras :D
Conny!
19-09-2003, 06:39 PM
In victoria i reckon its bull shit with the tolerances. How if your 3km/h over you get burned. Doesn't matter what speed your at. Where as the requirement for speedo's is to be 10% accurate. And the governments response is that most new cars have greater accuracy. But what about people with older cars.
Also the crap how the vic government forcasted the budget to be larger due to more revenue from speeding violations... how do they do that without making people speed. More dam cameras.
Also i heard somewhere about mobile speed cameras being manned by non-police, and people proceeding to beat them up, when they are completely helpless because really they are enforcing laws but are not police.
Somethings wrong.
Maestro
22-09-2003, 01:54 PM
It needs to be said: This policeman, he's standing on the side of the road with a sign, wearing various shades of blue, a black cap, a FLURO vest with REFLECTIVE STRIPES and a camera and you call him a "CHAMELEON"!??
Charles Darwin would be appalled.
Having said that, I have occasionally been a little surprised by the places that they choose - behind crests, blind corners, on the opposite side of merging traffic etc etc, but if you keep an eye out, and you aren't too far over the limit, you can generally get away with it. I'm far more concerned about the new range of unmarked cars that they're now using on highways and freeways.
The Black Dog
22-09-2003, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Maestro
It needs to be said: This policeman, he's standing on the side of the road with a sign, wearing various shades of blue, a black cap, a FLURO vest with REFLECTIVE STRIPES and a camera and you call him a "CHAMELEON"!??
Having said that, I have occasionally been a little surprised by the places that they choose - behind crests, blind corners,
No Vest .. no reflective Stripes, hiding behind a car (not police).
It seems you have a foot in both camps ?? Make your mind up.
Lawrence Springborg (QLD opposition leader) recently said on radio that 40,000 man hours have been logged and the budget or'quota' was 70,000 for the year. That adds up to a hell of a lot of playing hide and seek forthcoming.
BlueBoy
22-09-2003, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by St. Anger
Also the crap how the vic government forcasted the budget to be larger due to more revenue from speeding violations... how do they do that without making people speed. More dam cameras.
Wow. Cameras won't pick you up unless you're speeding. They could lay down thousands of the fuckers, but if you aren't doing over the legal limit you won't be pinged. Simple as that.
I could say something like "it's a limit and not a recommended speed," but that would be hypocritical of me.
DrDivad
22-09-2003, 04:49 PM
to my knowledge the highway patrol car will go plenty fast, probably 200 or more, but i htink once a pursuit reaches 140km/hr (which is aroudn the about the same point you get auto tr0wned if you are caught at that speed) they are supposed to call off the pursuit because they are contributing to the danger, logically it's better that the speeding guy go on to wipe out himself and another person than the police car ALSO wiping out themselves and other people, approximately 5 lives vs 2,3, sucks like a mofo in either case but i think thats why they do it
then again i could be 100% wrong
Maestro
23-09-2003, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by The Black Dog It seems you have a foot in both camps ?? Make your mind up.[/B]Why should I make my mind up? It is an unfortunate fact that very little is black and white in the world, and this is a prime example. While I don't necessarily agree with underhanded the tactics employed, I understand why they are undertaken. If you get caught, you get caught. I certainly don't speed as much as I did before they got sneaky.
Bostonmess
23-09-2003, 07:01 AM
In Ireland, land of the Irish, they have a system whereby one lot of traffic warn the other lot by flashing their lights. It took us a while to realise but when you're in a flow of vehicles and it suddendly slows down for no apparent reason, then you see the cops and notice all the cars flashing their lights *plink* the penny drops. :D
BlueBoy
23-09-2003, 09:03 AM
The 'flashing your lights' system was used over here for ages.
Its been some time since I last saw one driver warn another of a camera.
thingy
23-09-2003, 09:48 AM
I never see it in the city, but then again, I rarely see mobile speed traps in the city. On country roads though, it happens ALL the time. I'm yet to come upon a mobile speed trap on a freeway/highway/country road where I haven't been flashed. Same goes for accidents too. ANY reason to slow down or be carefull ahead gets flashed.
All the rules of courtesy seem to apply only once outside the city - the head-nodding doesn't happen much until you're on the outskirts too (this is a bike riders thing).
Maestro
23-09-2003, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by BlueBoy
The 'flashing your lights' system was used over here for ages.
Its been some time since I last saw one driver warn another of a camera. I do it all the time - especially on the stretch between Wollongong and Sydney in the afternoon.
King_Crud
24-09-2003, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by Bostonmess
In Ireland, land of the Irish, they have a system whereby one lot of traffic warn the other lot by flashing their lights. It took us a while to realise but when you're in a flow of vehicles and it suddendly slows down for no apparent reason, then you see the cops and notice all the cars flashing their lights *plink* the penny drops. :D
I never saw it when i lived in Ireland but that's because the roads are so twisty we never got near the the speed limit
Holster
24-09-2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by King_Crud
I never saw it when i lived in Ireland but that's because the roads are so twisty we never got near the the speed limit
my grandmother seemed to be able to exceed it often :D
thingy
24-09-2003, 06:50 PM
Yeah, but we all know what your family are like. :p
I'm a dead man, aren't I?
Chrissy
24-09-2003, 06:51 PM
I can't believe that most of you here are complaining about the fact that you think speeding fines are a way to generate revenue.
Who gives shit why they are introduced, if a side effect is that the roads are safer for both pedestrians and motorists isn't that a good thing?
Instead of moaning about how it's not fair that you get a fine for speeding, why not slow down and stop getting the fines. That way 'their' devious plans are scuppered, 'they' get no more money from fines and you win...not to mention all the people who won't get killed either by being hit by a speeding car, or in a car accident which possibly isn't their fault.
There has recently been a very hard hitting ad campaign in the UK which shows what happens to you and your passenger when you are not strapped in, in the back seat of a car, what happens to a kid you hit at 10mph over the limit, etc. The motto is 'Kill your speed'
It's very thought provoking, and the images they show are pretty bloody, there is one advert in particular that I watched once, and now, everytime it's on, I have to switch channels. I can't watch it, it's so horrible.
It certainly made me make sure that any passengers I carry in the back of my car are strapped in, I don't care if they are 3 or 33 years old, no-one is crushing me to death if I have to brake suddenly! Even my dog is strapped in.
I honestly don' t care how it's done, but the simple fact is, there are too many tossers on our roads who think they can handle driving at speed through build up areas. In my opinion, those people have an over inflated ego, and they are the ones that will end up in an accident, probably with someone who wasn't speeding, possibly a pedestrian or possibly another motorist. One of those people involved will probably be either seriously injured or dead, and it's sod's law that it won't be the person who was speeding. How the hell can you put a price on that?
I reckon if you want to speed, go and do it on a race track. At least that way the only people you are likely to injure are yourselves or other drivers on the race track. Apparently, it's a lot more fun that hammering it through town, and the police don't generally set up cameras or speed traps on a race track. ;)
BlueBoy
24-09-2003, 10:10 PM
Chrissy, we've had those sorts of ads for years now. They've become so blasé that they are ridiculed.
One of the most famous phrases used is: "If you drink and drive, you're a bloody idiot."
For as long as I can remember it's been sufficed with: "If you make it home you're a legend!"
Hitting people where it hurts most (their wallets) is really the only thing left.
King_Crud
25-09-2003, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by BlueBoy
Hitting people where it hurts most (their wallets) is really the only thing left.
Kicking people in the groin hurts more, i almost cry. Maybe if you are caught speeding you should get a sentence of a kick to the groin :eek:
Well if that the case im gonna go get me one of those "Box" things that cricketers wear.
KICK ME , KICK ME , KICK ME:banana: :banana:
BlueBoy
25-09-2003, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by King_Crud
Kicking people in the groin hurts more, i almost cry. Maybe if you are caught speeding you should get a sentence of a kick to the groin :eek:
And if you run a stop sign:
Wizard of Oz
27-09-2003, 10:49 AM
.. I think people's speed zone sense is being blunted by their excessive use by traffic authorities ..
.. for example when I drive to work .. which is all through urban areas .. I start out in a 50 zone, round the corner I am in a 60 zone, 400 m up the road I am in an 80 zone which becomes a 70 zone at the top of the hill .. this becomes a 60 zone then later a 70 zone and another 80 zone before going back to 60 .. all this in a 10 km drive to work .. on other days I also add a 40 school zone to the mix ..
.. the end result, when you mix in the essential demand of actually driving the car, is that the speed zone signs are lost amid the visual pollution that exists on the verge of our roads ..
The Black Dog
30-09-2003, 06:33 PM
I drove down the same street (sorry, It's actually a road ) today and saw the bike hidden behind the fence again.
I couldn't see the cop until I had passed him.
He was hiding behind a tree ...
He was so close to the tree he looked like he was trying to fuck it.
And .. since he was behind the tree .. I'd say he was probably a tree-arsefarmer.
Went for my digital camera, but couldn't find it ... damn.
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