Death Row.

[Snowball]

Why can only the kelph post in Utopians Thread that has now been moved to Death Row?(I am guessing it is because he is a Moderator)

Do they think that they are the only ones allowed to post in such a thread once it has been moved or is it because they think the rest of us do not have opinions on the subject or do they just not care?

[Spingo]

You're spot on when you guess that Super Moderators and Admins do have the ability to reply to closed threads in Death Row.

I'm not going to touch the second point, and I don't feel that anyone should have to. You can have your opinions on what goes on here, but I don't think moderators should have to explain every single action that they do. I could just as equally question why some people here cannot respect the authority of the moderators?

[pleed]

if everyone could relpy to posts in death row, then you may as well move the thread back to it's original forum.

[Snowball]

The rule about Death Row is the thread is dead and no more posts should be added. Why does a moderator get to post their opinion? You can't have one rule for mods and another for us.

Death Row should be exactly that - DEAD!!

Also you made the point in the B&R thread that Pirate pays for the site so we should respect it like his sofa (or whatever) but Pirate asked for financial help and a lot of us contributed which means your point about money is invalid.

[Drakin]

A moderator should be able to have the last word on a thread in death row. How else do you know why it went there.

I would guess (and im happy to be wrong) most mods would tag the thread with their post and then move it..

[Sambellina]

Originally posted by Drakin
A moderator should be able to have the last word on a thread in death row. How else do you know why it went there.

I would guess (and im happy to be wrong) most mods would tag the thread with their post and then move it..

A moderator did have the "last" word when it was moved to Death Row but then moderators kept adding their opinions. The point is that if they can add their opinion then the thread should be moved back so others can too (which in this case it has been).

[Drakin]

YAY! :p

[Sambellina]

Originally posted by Drakin
YAY! :p

Oh yes! My heart is overflowing with joy! :p

[Pirate]

I will personally shoot all said moderators... ahh fuck it I'm gonna shoot them all. That will show them who has the true powa!! *goes to the dark side*

[kleph]

i this case i have to plead ignorance. i was unaware comments by regular users were not allowed for death row threads. i think my posts in the thread in question show that i have a great interest in the comments and opinions of my fellow forum members on such topics.

but i still stand by my assessment of the death-row forum made in the thread of question - death row is not an execution sentence, it is a place to put threads to be evaluated by pirate. he can kill them, restore them or - as in this case - restore them with his personal comments.

irregardless of my ignorance of posting abilities, i feel i was correct in adding my final comments since they were to clarify statements i had made that seemed to have been misunderstood. and, given my prior posts in the thread, i thought my opinion on the death row decision was pertinent as well. having the last word, least of all in this thread, has never really been my motivation for posting.

[utopian]

The original poster should be able to post in threads that have been sent to Death Row. This is so that the moderators and the thread starter can discuss (in the context of the thread) why the thread shouldn't be killed. Sure, you could try sending eleventy billion pm's or emails, or getting mods together in an IRC channel or ICQ chat, but that's far too difficult.

Only when threads are "closed" should the super-moderators be the only ones able to post in it.

This would stop a fair amount of the B&R threads about a moderator's decision or the actual moderator themselves.

Let the person who started the thread have some sort of control over what goes on in the thread, they should be able to close it (but not re-open it) if they feel it's gone too off-topic and any further discussion would only make things worse.

I think the Death Row idea is a very good one, as it stops moderators from instantly trashing a thread.

On a somewhat related note, I hate it when there's an inflammatory comment made and instead of only editing the nasty words, a moderator edits the entire post, removing any valid content. Most people (including myself) don't save a copy of every single post they make, so it's really frustrating to have an entire post lost just because of a few words.

[Bostonmess]

Maybe they're trying to teach you to watch your mouth, sonny? :)

[Nandragon]

Damn it!

Why do I miss all the interesting topics?

At one time you could post in a thread that had been moved to Death Row. This has only changed recently.

Unfortunately, in agreement with Utop, that the thread should be left open, in death row until Pirate puts it in the garbage. But even then, I get miffed at the threads like this one, but can't go back and read WHY this one was started. I do understand that intolerable flaming shouldn't be left up...but still....I missed the train wreck!

I also agree about entire responses being deleted and not just a edited by the mod. Sometimes I find my whole response gone. I just think fark it and move along. Arguing gets you no where.

[Bostonmess]

It's about the thread in B&R that's called B&R is a joke. It got moved to death row for a bit, then got moved back to B&R, I don't think it's been edited.

[Nandragon]

ok..I remember that one.

*following up*

[kleph]

i'm for the option of general commenting in death row threads. each mod, i believe, also has the power to lock a thread and this would be an additional option given the problems of the thread in question.

as for the editing specific parts of posts. my personal method is to do this and give a public warning. after that, expect to be completely edited. the problem is many of us (particularly us on dialup) don't have the time or energy to pick through every post in every thread. particularly if a full flame war has emerged and folks are posting by the nanosecond.

if you write something you feel might be questionable - and i don't think this is difficult to discern - it is up to you to save a backup for later use if you are edited.

[Maestro]

Regardless of whether us plebs can post there, death row is by far the most entertaining forum on ZGeek. It is a triumph of all that is blatantly stupid, insulting, vile and ridiculous, and I wish more threads would end up there so that I wouldn't need to spend hours looking for inane and stupid threads.

[Nandragon]

WERD

[utopian]

Originally posted by Maestro
I wish more threads would end up there so that I wouldn't need to spend hours looking for inane and stupid threads.

Edited by Cassa ::
Dude I don't know whether you're trying to be ironically amusing with this but give it a rest ok?

[Cassa]

I have to confess I actually didn't know that not all users can post in threads in death row, had I known that I probably wouldn't have moved that thread.

[kré]

i like this thread. it's almost like make-up sex. :)

[Maestro]

Originally posted by cray
i like this thread. it's almost like make-up sex. :) Only with an unforfunate lack of ball gags and leather whips.

[hazza]

My god...


zgeek is not a democracy, it is a fucking dictatorship and thats the way it should be.


do you as you want pirate, it is your fucking site, show ur power by banning those who go against you.

here are some hints


utopian


that is all.

[Maestro]

Originally posted by hazza
My god...


zgeek is not a democracy, it is a fucking dictatorship and thats the way it should be.


do you as you want pirate, it is your fucking site, show ur power by banning those who go against you.

here are some hints


utopian


that is all.
an unforfunate lack of ball gags

[utopian]

A dictatorship is when someone seizes power and proclaims themselves ruler. This is not the case here, as Pirate actually founded the site. It's more like a Constitutional Monarchy, where one person rules the sites, yet there's a set of rules to follow. Pirate has appointed his ministers/cabinet/advisors and they act on the "constitution" and try and keep it a pleasant place for themselves, the readers and for Pirate himself. Ultimately, Pirate has all the power, but he gives some of that power to the moderators.

So in essence, it's nothing like a dictatorship. Before you jump in and start comparing things to politics, it helps to have some understanding of what you're talking about. I suggest you buy a dictionary and start at "A".

Edit: banning me might not necessarily be what he wants. I'm glad it's not a puppet government set up where Pirate is controlled from the shadows by Hazza.