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Scumbag
27-12-2003, 07:01 PM
i mean if zionism was all about a jewish homeland, and they got one, why is it not called zion?



well ?

Moga2
27-12-2003, 07:48 PM
I know salt lake city was originaly refered to as Zion.

But as to Isreal I have no idea.

That Bloke
27-12-2003, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by phoneyhuh
i mean if zionism was all about a jewish homeland, and they got one, why is it not called zion?



well ?

Sion is a hill in Jarusalem, Zion though(probably gets it's name from that hill) isn't/wasn't a place, just a religiouse theory.

It's like asking the question why isn't Utah called "Mormon".

Shootz
27-12-2003, 10:44 PM
Why isn't Russia called the CCCP? Why isn't Ethiopia called Abyssinia? Why isn't Slovakia called Czechoslovakia? Why isn't Iran called Persia?

Because things change.

utopian
28-12-2003, 12:42 AM
Because if it did, you'd ask why it wasn't called Israel.

Think about that.

dozer
28-12-2003, 01:12 AM
slovakia was never checko, istambul not constantinople would have been a better example.

all de childrens of zion lives in jamacia now

MisterBishi
28-12-2003, 04:44 AM
Why isn't this thread in the movies forum?

FireHart
28-12-2003, 05:23 AM
Matrix is :cool:.

scathing
28-12-2003, 07:25 PM
Since the machines that control the Matrix that we're all living in are trying to destroy Zion, does that mean that, essentially, the entire world is anti-semitic?

hazza
28-12-2003, 07:42 PM
stay on topic kids

ersatz
28-12-2003, 07:46 PM
all de childrens of zion lives in jamacia now

what with all the iron lions over there

dozer
29-12-2003, 01:00 AM
yeah, but ethiopia is actually zion

Ethiopians believe that when Zion is mentioned in the Bible, it is a reference to their own ancient land, which has also been called Abyssinia, Axum and Kush, at one time or another. Some say that Balthazar, one of the three Magi who greeted the Baby Jesus, was a king of Abyssinia, and Ethiopia was not only one of the first Christian kingdoms in the entire world (dating back to 450 A.D.), but is also of historical significance to the children of Israel. Ethiopia is also said to be the home of the Ark of the Covenant, ever since the sacred artifact called the "holiest of all holies" was moved there following the desecration of Solomon's Temple. Furthermore, Solomon's bride Sheba (also known as Makeda) is reputed to have been an Ethiopian queen, whose son Menelik began the Solomonic dynasty that ended in 1974 with the death of Haile Selassie I, also known as Ras Tafari.
For many Jamaicans, Ethiopia and Zion are interchangeable concepts, representing not just a place, but a spiritual foundation that lends strength to their own notions of freedom and, ultimately, repatriation back to Africa (as inspired by Old Testament scriptures as well as the teachings of Marcus Mosiah Garvey). The land of Ethiopia itself — situated in the horn of Africa region, surrounded by mountains on three sides and water on the other — is so far removed from the average Jamaican's reach, it's almost understandable why it has captivated their imagination and influenced their spiritual beliefs so intensely.

As the fabled "promised land" spoken of in Old Testament parables, the land of Ethiopia and Ethiopian culture have been mythologized to an extreme degree by Jamaica's Rastafarians. The Rastas believe that Selassie is not only still living, but the true manifestation of Jahovah, Earth's rightful ruler. According to Rasta philosophy, Selassie was sent from Zion to help protect the sufferers from the vampiric ways of Western civilization (known as the "Babylon system.")

In reggae music, the terms "Ethiopia," "Zion," "Rastafari," "Jah" and "Selassie" have become an integral part of the genre's vernacular; among the roll calls of Jamaican vocal harmony groups are outfits with names like the Ethiopians and the Abyssinians, and the "Amharic" riddim was one of the biggest in the dancehalls this past year. Moreover, reggae icon Bob Marley reportedly not only wore Selassie's signet ring — visible on the Legend album cover — but converted to the Ethiopian Orthodox Church (of which there are several sects in Jamaica) shortly before his death in 1981. Yet apart from reggae artists appropriating the natural mysticism associated with Zion, and the occasional Amharic lyric or historical reference, there have been few tangible links to Ethiopia's rich musical and cultural tradition. Although some distribution channels have opened up in this country and in Europe for world music, the majority of African music sold outside of Africa has been from the Western part of the continent. So while there has been a modern Ethio-pop scene for some time, its recorded works haven't been readily-accessible for listeners not living in East Africa, or at least the section of Washington D.C. called "Little Addis."


abyssinia

Cpt. Orangutang
01-01-2004, 04:39 AM
Why isn't phoneyhuh called Mortimer, The Guy With A Slight Balance Problem And A Right Foot That Is One Half Centimeters Wider Than The Left or Mortimer TGWASBPAARFTIOHCWTTL for short?

Well?