Stupid fucking American government and their stupid fucking missle shield

[Pirate]

I was just reading this article (http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,8387909%255E2,00.html) regarding Americas plan to get us involved in their stupid fucking missle shield when it hit me that the American government is like that dickhead mate that gets you into fights whenever you go out.

Look at it this way, the only real nuclear threat that we face is from north korea and even if they did fire a missle it would not head the way of Australia because that would be the long way to the US. So we pay for a missle shield that will do fuck all for us except piss our neighbours off and possibly start another arms race like the cold war. We just dont fucking needed.

Also pointed out in the article was the comment about bush calling Australia the sheriff of Asia... now I can understand why this pissed so many people off over here because that make them think we are better than them.

I really wish someone would shoot Bush because hes contributing about as much to world peace as Hitler did. Also if I ever get the chance, I am going to put my boot up Howards arse for being such a cock smoker and toadying to Bush's whims.

/rant

[Deimos]

I don't know about John Howard but the thought of a big fuckoff missile gun sitting in our backyard doesn't make me feel terribly safe or secure. If you paint the rest of the world out to be enemies then that's just what they'll be. Why can't we all be like Mr Pirate and just peace out? It would do wonders for our health.

[Ins0mniac]

We don't have the technology for an effective missile shield anyway. Chances are it wouldn't work in practice. Expecially if there was more than one missile. So it's basically a waste of money.

And if a decent one did get designed, it would only get rid of of the very few detterent that hold back the U.S. millitary when it's under the hands of people like Bush.

[durus]

Stupidist plan EVAR.
It's like...
Why don't I piss off my neighbours who all have more people, more guns and less land. Then I'll try and sell em stuff to keep my economy going but they will tax and tarriff the shit out of it damaging australian businesses while I whinge about fair trading which i might have gotten had i improved our relations.
Fucking smacktard.
and don't get me started on "shoot me i'm fucking stupid and a threat to the environment as well as world peace bush"

[quartz_donkey]

Yes let me see when would be a good time to launch a nuke... arrr I know when we KNOW (because they told the world) there missle screen doesn't work. Or when we haven't got one yet.

[RASPUTIN]

I have heard that shooting a nuke is not a good idea as the thing goes off anyway, even though ususally not as big. My point being that radiation is still going to polute everything anyway which does not sound like such a good thing, but admittedly better then hitting our bases.

I think the main reasoning behind the missile shield is to make the other side think twice before launching. For instance if Australia didn't have border controlls or army etc fuckwits would just say there is a nice place to go and nothing would or could stop them. Because we do have border controls and lock the fuckers up they don't come over. Same deal for missiles. Whilst I don't agree with war at all unfortunately there are numerous shitty little tinpot countries that do so until they are taken over or have a friendly governemt in them bring it on I reckon.

I know this goes against the grain of a lot of people in zgeek but from my point of view too many races out there hate the western world and in particular hate white people. So until we live in the perfect utopia where everybody eats mung beans and hugs all the time we either submit to fucktards or take them out. I for one am of the talk a bit if not get anywhere fuck them off mentality. Which to me is more attractive to my prospects then the talk a lot and get fucked for it types.

So to my way of thinking if putting a massive array of missile pointing North at the top of Australia make them worried and stops any potential attacks go for it. When the crap is over we can always convert them to big mother firecrackers and have one beauty new years eve party.

[viper_69r2002]

I believe that the answer to all the world's problems is for everybody to fuck everybody else. We would then become one big race of mongrels with a bit of eveything (1/150th Indian, Chineese, Russian, etc) and no one would want to attack their fellow mongrel.

Besides which, will all that fucking going on, who'd have time for war.

When it comes to Bush... Well, I'm all for giving jobs to the mentally handicapped, but making him president is just taking it a bit too far.

I think it was Robin Williams that said that all the world leaders should be women. There would never be any wars... Just every 28 days, some really intense negotiations. A woman would never make a bomb that would kill you... It you make you feel bad for a really long time, but it wouldn't kill you...

[durus]

Good post Viper. I for one am ready to vote for the International Orgy of World Peace.

:banana: :banana: :banana:

[kyuss]

Let the shrooms flow and the orgies rule! :banana:

[Drakin]

Missile sheild, any bets it was a texan that thought that one up..

President "Im worried boy's, someone might fire a missile at us"
Yes-man-1 "We shall defend our country!"
Yes-man-2 "We will destroy our enemys!"
Yes-man-3 "We shall be victorious!"

Texan "Why dont we just fire another missile at the first missile and have ourselfs a 4th of july display...Yeeehaw!"

President "Great idea then i can sell shitloads of missiles as defences instead of offences."
Yes-man-1 "We shall defend our country!"
Yes-man-2 "We will destroy our enemys!"
Yes-man-3 "We shall be victorious!"

Person with brain "But sir wont people realise your just using this to perpetuate the construction and sales of missiles whilst lining your own pockets with gold?"

President "Your right, we need to create a patriotic image for this idea....i know lets call it shield of america"
Yes-man-1 "We shall defend our country!"
Yes-man-2 "We will destroy our enemys!"
Yes-man-3 "We shall be victorious!"

Arms-dealer "What about calling it a missile shield, everyone will think they are safe behind it and we can sell it globally"

President "I love it, now let see where's johnny, he owes me one..."

[Haalen]

There is a possibility of a missile in its descent breaking apart into many small warheads, possible decoys, or a nuclear clusterbomb of sorts. The people working on the missile shield know this, so their only real window of oppurtunity to destroy it is in its ascent. So the missile shield will only work if it can catch it going up.

The interesting thing is the idea of a space based weapons platform. If a bomb were launched from space(say from a satellite or space vehicle, etc.) the missile shield becomes obsolete. With more countries getting involved in space we arent very far away from a country developing such a weapon system. The costly, time consuming missile shield, if it were to ever work, would probably not be useful for very long.

[durus]

"The costly, time consuming missile shield, if it were to ever work, would probably not be useful for very long."
You could not be more wrong. How much money is the Australian government going to spend on this? You think they would just waste their money like that?
This is going to do a lot of good. The American economy is in a slump and they need all the money they can get. This system will be built off an american plan, probably by an american contracter and then will subsequently require an american maintenance contract as well as being loaded with american missiles. This will have a long term positive affect on the american economy.
Of course it's going to do shit all for us though unless the americans arrange to get us into a war with some country that they can sell missiles to, so they shoot missiles at us and we shoot them down every one feels good about the money they have spent and the americans walk away with all the ph4t l3wt (also known as our tax dolars).

[Haalen]

I'm not talking about the missile shields economic impact. I'm talking about its ability to actually shoot down missiles if they actually get it working.

[durus]

"I'm not talking about the missile shields economic impact. I'm talking about its ability to actually shoot down missiles if they actually get it working."
While on the one hand I realise that and it was implied in your comments, on the other hand you didn't specifically state it which leaves me free to take things the wrong way if I should choose to do so. If you're in a forum full of comedians don't be surprised when something dumb/unintentional comes from your words.

[Bifrost]

But if we build thousands and thousands of missiles, like we did with nuclear weapons in the 80s as deterents (never as offensive weapons, just deterents), then the world will be at peace and there will be no wars, no terrorism and everyone will live in harmony like they have for the last two decades.

Isn't that right? :confused:

[Ins0mniac]

Originally posted by RASPUTIN
I know this goes against the grain of a lot of people in zgeek but from my point of view too many races out there hate the western world and in particular hate white people. So until we live in the perfect utopia where everybody eats mung beans and hugs all the time we either submit to fucktards or take them out. I for one am of the talk a bit if not get anywhere fuck them off mentality. Which to me is more attractive to my prospects then the talk a lot and get fucked for it types

Too many races that hate the West? There isn't a single "race" that hates the West. There are organisations that hate the West, even governments that hate the West. But races? wtf?

[Ins0mniac]

Originally posted by durus
"The costly, time consuming missile shield, if it were to ever work, would probably not be useful for very long."
You could not be more wrong. How much money is the Australian government going to spend on this? You think they would just waste their money like that?

You want to know if a piece of defense technology will work? Don't ask a politician for god's sake, ask a scientist. Have you seen those documentaries where the scientists tear the missile defence shield theory into ribbons? Hell, even the ones working on the damn project. But they don't mind they're still getting payed.

It's not a waste. It's very useful for making your government look like they're doing something and the people will love them. That's why Bush is into it. For politics. The missile defence shield isn't for stoping a genuine missile offensive. It's for making the President look good.

Our government is in it for politics too, international politics. To appease the U.S government.

[DOGG]

LOL wasnt it obvious durus was just being sarcastic? You people are funny.

Haleen you make a good point about space based weapons. I wonder if the capability to aim at other satellites will be put into the system, or will they need a trillion dollars to revamp it.

[mysterious-dr-x]

Originally posted by Drakin
Missile sheild, any bets it was a texan that thought that one up..


well, in this case you dont really need to define betweent he president & the texan do you

[durus]

OK next time I'm going to use <irony></irony> tags. Clearly I am too subtle/convincing for my own good.

[Drakin]

Originally posted by mysterious-dr-x
well, in this case you dont really need to define betweent he president & the texan do you

As much as i would like to blame the president for this fuckup off an idea, i just cant conceive the concept that junior thought up this idea.

Nah there must be another texan with wild ideas about shooting things with missiles.... surely? :D

[Scumbag]

Even if the US had a missile defence system in place, September 11 still wouldve happened!


They need to stop worrying about how to defend themselves from the "enemy", and start worrying about what they might be doing wrong thats making other governments see them as an enemy, then try and apease whatever that is.

[Haalen]

Bush didn't think it up, it was actually started during the clinton administration.(You could also say the IDEA of it started with Reagan) Bush has just put a lot of emphasis on it as if we were in the cold war again somehow.

[Ins0mniac]

Originally posted by Haalen
Bush didn't think it up, it was actually started during the clinton administration.(You could also say the IDEA of it started with Reagan) Bush has just put a lot of emphasis on it as if we were in the cold war again somehow.

Yeah, we know.

[jaseparlo]

Originally posted by Ins0mniac
You want to know if a piece of defense technology will work? Don't ask a politician for god's sake, ask a scientist. Have you seen those documentaries where the scientists tear the missile defence shield theory into ribbons?

In case you haven't :
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_security/missile_defense/page.cfm?pageID=1001

[RASPUTIN]

Originally posted by Ins0mniac
Too many races that hate the West? There isn't a single "race" that hates the West. There are organisations that hate the West, even governments that hate the West. But races? wtf?

Shit I missed this one. Wtf are you on about. Malaysians hate Aussies so do the Japanese, we are gougin or whatever they say, strangers. :( now that is not a good thing.