Metal Thread

[Necron]

What Metal and Hard rock CD's does everyone like to listen to and why?.

Is there any reason why you listen to a certain type of metal, i.e. frustration, anger, stress?.

I listen to: in no particular order -

Tool
Metallica
A Perfect Circle
Pantera
Sepultura
Machine head
Static X
messuggah
Fear Factory
Korn
Disturbed
Sevendust

Gee, cant anyone just be satisfied with the title and answer the question... Nooo, I have to change the title to suite EVERYONE!.

Well Im sorry If I like Other bands other than just pure Metal (although I love all metal bands)

[StygiaN]

I saw this thread on the main zgeek page and got all excited. Except the bands you've listed are not metal, well some of them are (or have been) but not all of them. It's a start though.

Bands I am listening to at the moment.

Megadeth
Dark Tranquility
Iced Earth
Blind Guardian
Within Temptation
and old school Metallica

I like to listen to Metal because a lot of the music on the radio is boring. I like the technical apsects of most metal and the often dark or brooding lyrics.

[Movius]

*heads off to consult CD collection*

Favourite metal bands include (but not limited to):

Opeth
Therion
Arcturus
older Ulver (New Ulver is equally good, but not metal)
Fantomas
Devin Townsend's projects (Especially Strapping Young Lad)
Meshuggah
The Dillinger Escape Plan
Fear Factory
Sigh
Ephel Duath
Solefald
Dodheimsgard
Samael
Emperor
Cradle of Filth
Moonspell
Chalice
Virgin Black
Alchemist
Devolved
Blind Guardian
Anal Cunt
Impaled Northern Moonforest
And Oceans
Katatonia
My Dying Bride
Anathema
+ a whole heap more I can't be fucked listing.

Also you should listen to Empyrean Sky (http://www.empyreansky.com/), despite that iffy bald guitarist character.

I listen to metal because I like it.

[kyuss]

I listen to everything from classical to heavy metal.

Stuff like Pantera's "The Great Southern Trendkill", helps whilst driving along the frustrating Gold Coast Highway from Surfers to Tweed when im in a hurry (that drive could turn a man insane!)

Slayer also helps me out in times of rage and or complete frustration.

Tools "Aenima" is a great listen when you just can't stand societies crap. (But that isn't really metal is it...)

Usually i will listen to more cruisier stuff though, like Pearl Jam, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zepplin, Kyuss, Pink Floyd, Tool, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Clutch, ..the list goes on.

As for my favourite metal albums, I always find these enqueued amongst others in winamp:
Slayer - South of Heaven
Slayer - God Hates Us All
Devolved - Technologies
Metallica - Black Album
Opeth - Still Life
Pantera - Vulgar Display Of Power
Pantera - The Great Southern Trendkill

[pleed]

Can't be stuffed listing them all (24 is nearly on).

SYL (and anything Devin Townsend)
Emperor
Dodheimsgard
Immortal
Motley Crue
Cannibal Corpse
Brugeria
Anal Cunt
Rev Kriss Hades
Sadistik Exekution
Alchemist
Bloodduster

and some others.
After listening to metal for a while and progressing into more extreme stuff, you just get to understand it.
When non-metal listening people they just hear noise and complain, but when your ear is accustomed, you hear the music and the depth behind it.
And other songs are just cool and rocky.

[Lord_Phat]

dear mother of fucking god

pantera?! metallica!?

shouldn't this be a triplem hard rock thread? :eek:

hang your head in shame... great southern trendkill?

tool!?

omg, it burns :(

where it's at :D

fear factory
blood duster
opeth
sepultura (original lineup only)
anathema (before they lost the plot)
my dying bride
bolt thrower
chalice
brujeria
nailbomb
syl
mudvayne (the only tolerable nu-metal :P)
.

edit: you asked why? well, mostly because metal has some damned talented people, most of the bands i have listed write intelligent creative music, rather than the vacuous trash that is pimped on a radio near you... oh, and it's damned fun to go completely crazy to at a gig, or taking a nang on mah bike :D

[mysterious-dr-x]

Within Temptation & A Perfect Circle, as good as they are , are not metal.


Sepultura
Fear Factory
Opeth
My Dying Bride
Mudvayne
Emperor
Opeth
The Dillinger Escape Plan
Cradle of Filth

um, & a whole bunch of other dans whos names i either dont know (maybe i should ask the djs who it is more often) or cant remember

[Necron]

More:

Opeth
Mudvayn
Korn
Slayer
Killswitch
Dry Kill logic
Drowning pool
System of a down

Man, whats with the triple M comment!, it's still metal. (Metallica and Pantera). agreeing with others about some of my other bands but I still love em.

[spurr]

Has anyone listened to the Probot album? What do you reckon?

[Lord_Phat]

Originally posted by Necron
*snip*

Man, whats with the triple M comment!, it's still metal. (Metallica and Pantera). agreeing with others about some of my other bands but I still love em.

why not throw iron maiden and black sabbath in as metal bands then?

surely they are all resting happily in a hard rock category?

metallicas newer albums are hard rock, plain and simple... pantera was always hard rock...

the triplem comment indicates simply that these bands are played on triplem, which purports itself as a rock station... aiding the statement that these bands are rock, not metal...

[ersatz]

Anal Cunt
Impaled Northern Moonforest

I don't like the stuff myself (don't see the point), but the flatmate's a metalhead so it's inevitable that i'll hear it. I also see some Carcass, Incantation, Damaged, Darkthrone, Cannibal Corpse and Rhapsody (unless the last one counts as cock-rock)

and Genital Discharge

[Necron]

Yeh ok, thats why I renamed the thread Hard rock and metal thread... or something like that, it's all good anyway!. cant everyone just post why they like what they like instead of trying to rant on about how it's not metal, it's hard rock....it's not death metal, it's punk metal and so forth......Just post, I just wanted to know why everyone listens to (to be politically correct) hard rock/ Metal

[Haalen]

I listen to a lot of Hardrock and a few metal songs

Mudvayne - I love their song "Not Falling", but thats it. I saw them in concert when they were first huge with "Dig". They were the opener for the show and they sucked massive massive donkey balls. If you wanna know how much they sucked just watch the episode of HBO's reverb with mudvayne in it. It was the exact show I was at. Some of my friends tell me that my 3 friends and I are on TV for bout 5 seconds(I havent seen the full episode yet). One friend who saw it said "You guys looked bored"
Well..... we were, their suckage will always be legendary to us.
Anyways:

Hatebreed - I will be heard
Nonpoint - they havent hit it big yet but they are great, some songs to get from them:
nonpoint - Victim
- Endure
- What a day
-Your Signs (this one cant be called hardrock, but its good)

[kyuss]

Originally posted by Lord_Phat
dear mother of fucking god

pantera?! metallica!?

shouldn't this be a triplem hard rock thread? :eek:

hang your head in shame... great southern trendkill?

tool!?

omg, it burns :(

where it's at :D

fear factory
blood duster
opeth
sepultura (original lineup only)
anathema (before they lost the plot)
my dying bride
bolt thrower
chalice
brujeria
nailbomb
syl
mudvayne (the only tolerable nu-metal :P)
.

edit: you asked why? well, mostly because metal has some damned talented people, most of the bands i have listed write intelligent creative music, rather than the vacuous trash that is pimped on a radio near you... oh, and it's damned fun to go completely crazy to at a gig, or taking a nang on mah bike :D

get your hand off it you dick head.

[Gothmog]

I'm not a big metal fan but my fav metal bands are:

A Perfect Circle
Tool
Butterfly Effect
Slayer


Going to see A Perfect Circle on friday!

-Gothmog

[huwbacca]

SATYRICON (http://www.satyricon.boom.ru/)
http://satyricon.battlegrim.net/img/gallery/satyricon1999/big/satyricon1999-01.jpg

[mysterious-dr-x]

Originally posted by Haalen
IMudvayne - I love their song "Not Falling", but thats it.

you heard 'world so cold'? a beautiful song in my opinion, off the same album.

[SHoK]

hmmmm listing all those bands is good and all but would it be possible to name a particular song you feel is that bands best?
for example dry kill logics - rot is probably one of their better songs, that i've heard.

obviously not the more "mainstream" bands.

thanks!

[pleed]

Originally posted by huwbacca
SATYRICON (http://www.satyricon.boom.ru/)
http://satyricon.battlegrim.net/img/gallery/satyricon1999/big/satyricon1999-01.jpg

Pity Rebel Extravaganza was a POS

[Lord_Phat]

Originally posted by kyuss
get your hand off it you dick head.

why on earth would i do that?

[jaseparlo]

Originally posted by Lord_Phat
why not throw iron maiden and black sabbath in as metal bands then?

surely they are all resting happily in a hard rock category?

Hey! Maiden PWNZ J0R M3T4L! :)

I see what you are saying to an extent, but how do you define metal? I would call it guitar driven stuff, with complex structures, lengthy almost classical styling, powerful and driven feel. Lyrics intelligent or dark (ie 'nothin but a good time' is not metal) ummm...

I guess that throws out a lot of classic stuff like warlock and shit like that, so maybe I'm wrong.

True Metal all I can really claim is
maiden
pre black album Metallica
any megadeth
Iced Earth a bit
Warlock if you count that
Not much else I think.

If you wanna talk about really deathy stuff that's a whole different genre in some ways. I can't stand it personally, the vocals sound like muppets.

I fucking love Chalice, but they are about the only current thing.

If we are counting hard rock,
Led Zep
Motorhead
Faith no More
Tool
AC/DC
Kiss before the dynasty album

Nobody's mentioned the Angels, or the Screaming Jets, fucking good stuff

Worth a listen if you like that kind of stuff are the first three Queen albums too, some of the best guitar work you will ever hear is on those albums (Queen, Queen II and Sheer Heart Attack)

[cin]

Kyuss are teh pwn.

No questions asked.

[Timformation]

I'm with you (sort of) with Iced Earth, but IMO everything after Night of the Stormrider was piffle.

I'd also include:

Pre-roots sepultura
Anything by Slayer

[StygiaN]

Originally posted by Timformation
I'm with you (sort of) with Iced Earth, but IMO everything after Night of the Stormrider was piffle.


Do not ever insult Burnt Offerings again! Dante's Inferno and the title track are two of the best metal songs ever written.

[Timformation]

That's a bold statement. Hmm. I'll give it a relisten then, perhaps I just wasn't in the right mood when I heard it the first time.

[StygiaN]

Make sure you turn it up loud as well. You don't want to miss any of shaffers tripplets!

[Asmodeus]

most are metal enough:

Napalm Death
God Dethroned
Exodus
Deicide
Sepultura
Megadeth
Death
Carcass
Amorphis
Therion
Acheron
Brujeria
Skin Chamber
Old Man's Child
Satan's Blood

etc, etc, etc

[Movius]

Originally posted by jaseparlo
I fucking love Chalice, but they are about the only current thing.
You're obviously not looking very hard. While I agree that Chalice's stuff (Augmented in particular) is much better than 99% of metal around these days. There is still plenty of good music around if you know where to look.

[jaseparlo]

Originally posted by Movius
There is still plenty of good music around if you know where to look.

Yeah that's the problem - I don't have any metal friends to share with. Also I love the idea of metal, but can take or leave most of it.

And now I have kids and a job, the metal shows on JJJ and RRR and PBS are all past my bedtime. Poor old man me :)

[StygiaN]

I don't have many metal friends but I get all my info from the internet.

www.metal-rules.com is a site I love. Check it out.

[mysterious-dr-x]

Originally posted by jaseparlo
Yeah that's the problem - I don't have any metal friends to share with.

dont you hate that. my home friends are more emo & shit. the area i live in isnt big on metal. luckily my uni friends are metal people, & not the kind that go rusty :D

[Movius]

Originally posted by jaseparlo
Yeah that's the problem - I don't have any metal friends to share with. Also I love the idea of metal, but can take or leave most of it.

And now I have kids and a job, the metal shows on JJJ and RRR and PBS are all past my bedtime. Poor old man me :)
You can listen to each Tuesday's Full Metal Racket via the magic of the internet for the week after it went to air. http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/racket/

You could also try assorted Band, metal record label websites for mp3s. Century Media (http://www.centurymedia.com) and The End Records (http://www.theendrecords.com) usually have quite a wide variety of music available for download.

[StygiaN]

Thanks for the link to Full Metal Racket Movius. Sweet site.

[Megabyte]

Originally posted by Lord_Phat
pantera?! metallica!?

shouldn't this be a triplem hard rock thread? :eek:


You can't have a metal thread and disclude metallica. It's just not done. Sure they may have traversed down the long and evil path of nu-metal, and personally I think "St. Anger" sucks butt, but they were my first metal love. Borrowed all DrDivad's cds and played them til my heart was content.
These days I generally listen to the classic SYL/DT, Soilwork, In Flames, Arch Enemy, Nevermore, Opeth and so forth, but Metallica will always remain in my list. Pantera's still there, as well as Tool because I just like them. I'm not always in the mood for heavier stuff so on occasion I will leak into the nu-metal scene with Static-X, Stone Sour and Disturbed but hey, I enjoy them so shove it. :D

[Megabyte]

Alternatively to Full Metal Racket, there's a Sydney Radio Show on...Thursday nights if I recall correctly that starts at 7pm-9pm (I think, or it may have started at 9, but I'm pretty sure it was 7-9; check it out anyway). Plays all metal genres. Black and Nu included. Can be found on 99.9 FM. Quite good in my opinion. I may be biased though as one of the hosts is a guy I know from the msn community Aussie Metalheads.

Excalibur, that's EvilNick if you remember him.

[Megabyte]

Originally posted by Lord_Phat
why not throw iron maiden and black sabbath in as metal bands then?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Black Sabbath were classified as "Doom Metal". Note the usage of the key word "metal".

...I hate all the numerous categories. Especially when they create new genres such as "Christian metal" for P.O.D. I would have classed them as rock, christian rock. I don't understand what's wrogn with leaving it as that, rather than creating yet another needless genre for everyone to get mixed up and confused by.

[Necron]

Gee, you must love yourself...... Three posts in a dead forum in a row!. Just joking!.

Na, I agree, I think there are too many different classifications of metal. But I agree with foreposts

[Megabyte]

Egotism comes with being a leo. ;)
...but I'm bored and I'm trying to re-awaken the vibe without restarting the thread. I'll succeed, just you wait and see.

It has begun already.

And as for the 3 posts in a row, well my mind runs a million miles an hour. Just ask Excalibur for clarification on that one. My mum says I'm like Dory from Finding Nemo. My mind flits from one thing to another to another. After one post is complete I think of something new, and if I don't spurt it out now I'll go insane..or forget it. Whichever one comes first. :p

[Necron]

Hehe, yeah...Let the metal thread Live again!!!

[Lord_Phat]

Originally posted by Moebs
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Black Sabbath were classified as "Doom Metal". Note the usage of the key word "metal".

...I hate all the numerous categories. Especially when they create new genres such as "Christian metal" for P.O.D. I would have classed them as rock, christian rock. I don't understand what's wrogn with leaving it as that, rather than creating yet another needless genre for everyone to get mixed up and confused by.

i seriously doubt there was such a classification when sabbath were actually playing :)

personally, they would slot nicely into "stoner rock" or some such category

classifications are necessary in a world of so much crappy diversity... would be shit annoying to walk into a cd store and have "music" as the only section :D

all jesting aside, it is somewhat helpful to have little labels to put on a particular sound of music, though it is always nice when a band defies real categorisation :banana:

and yes, my hand is still on it :fag:

[Lord_Phat]

Originally posted by Moebs
You can't have a metal thread and disclude metallica. It's just not done. Sure they may have traversed down the long and evil path of nu-metal, and personally I think "St. Anger" sucks butt, but they were my first metal love. Borrowed all DrDivad's cds and played them til my heart was content.
These days I generally listen to the classic SYL/DT, Soilwork, In Flames, Arch Enemy, Nevermore, Opeth and so forth, but Metallica will always remain in my list. Pantera's still there, as well as Tool because I just like them. I'm not always in the mood for heavier stuff so on occasion I will leak into the nu-metal scene with Static-X, Stone Sour and Disturbed but hey, I enjoy them so shove it. :D

yes, metallica were metal... never said they weren't... just that they fell out the ass end of that category in the late eighties :D

and yes, st anger snacks on the contents of my anus

apparently movis loves the snare more than life itself :D

[Megabyte]

Originally posted by Lord_Phat
i seriously doubt there was such a classification when sabbath were actually playing :)

personally, they would slot nicely into "stoner rock" or some such category

classifications are necessary in a world of so much crappy diversity... would be shit annoying to walk into a cd store and have "music" as the only section :D

Well I'm mostly going by what the few "Doom Metallers" I know have said.

And yes I agree that having a minimal number of genres would be awkward, but I just think that the specialisation has gotten out of hand. Especially with the apparent mixing of genres now, some ones I've been told of are "Death-Black, Industrial Chem. Metal (this one baffles me beyond tears) and many other odd terms.

[excalibur]

Sabbath Created the Entire Genre that we know know as Metal, so there wouldn't have been a classification. They got called Doom Metal when mainstream metal began to follow the in the vein of Judas Preist, Iron Maiden and so forth.

There are too many classifications of metal, especially with mixing of types. There, IMHO should be no more than 5, some people will hate this idea, eg. doom and black are close enough to classify both as the same thing, sure black is a lot faster, and more technical, but the IDEAS AND MESSAGES behind both are similar.

I highlight ideas and messages, because a lot of genres have come up on small differences in style, I agree that differences in style make different categories, but the ideas should be the main form of classification. It just makes things easier.

Metallica should be inclued in any discussion in metal. Just try to find any metal rythym player now that hasn't been influenced in some fasion by James Hetfield. Or and lead player that hasn't been influenced in some way by Kirk Hammet. They redefined the metal sound through the 80's, even though they aren't as heavy now as they once where, having strayed into the void of Nu Metal.

(Moebs' Mind does run at a million miles an hour as well.......)

[Megabyte]

Originally posted by excalibur
(Moebs' Mind does run at a million miles an hour as well.......)

..Told ya.:p

[Movius]

Originally posted by Lord_Phat
apparently movis loves the snare more than life itself :D I created an exact replica of said snare drum, but then i figured i was better off claiming the 5c deposit on the cans i used in the manufacture instead.

[Necron]

Originally posted by Moebs
..Told ya.:p

I like your fast paced style moeb's :cool:

[excalibur]

The really scary thing is, she talks like that too....

*ducks before he's hit*

[Megabyte]

Originally posted by excalibur
The really scary thing is, she talks like that too....

*ducks before he's hit*

heeheehooho..oh my.

[Lord_Phat]

Originally posted by Movius
I created an exact replica of said snare drum, but then i figured i was better off claiming the 5c deposit on the cans i used in the manufacture instead.

lars only made $1238812381682368126838691238900689123 with that shameful sound :mad:

[ersatz]

Not meaning to piss in anyone's swag or anything, but what gets me is the people who consider listening to the various subtypes of a musical genre as equivalent to listening to different kinds of music. Sure, they may listen to the entire rainbow of metal, but know shit all about anything else.

One of the flatmate's friends asked me if I'd ever heard of the Beatles before, as if it was something revolutionary (which it was, but we're up to Revolution #50 by now).

gah

[Lord_Phat]

Originally posted by ersatz
Not meaning to piss in anyone's swag or anything, but what gets me is the people who consider listening to the various subtypes of a musical genre as equivalent to listening to different kinds of music. Sure, they may listen to the entire rainbow of metal, but know shit all about anything else.

One of the flatmate's friends asked me if I'd ever heard of the Beatles before, as if it was something revolutionary (which it was, but we're up to Revolution #50 by now).

gah

no urine in my swag... i listen to loads of different types of music... my passion just, mostly, lies with metal :banana:

[excalibur]

I am not a metal only person. I regularly listen to Classical, Blues, rock, pretty much anything except Rap, Pop (99% of radio) RnB, techno, or Country.

[Megabyte]

Cultured swine. :hippy:

[Lord_Phat]

i don't dig the pig

[DrDivad]

What? No Beach Boys??


Here's mah theory,

you gots Heavy / Metal / Hard / Rock

piss off all your subcategories!

now i have the ultimate authority, ULTIMATE in my possession in the form of a compilation cd entitled HEAVY METAL HEAVEN, including special bonus cd.

Now this $5 album of ultimate doom contains ALL the answers since it contains the HEAVY METAL that they listen to in HEAVEN.

It consists entirely of Deep Purple, Judas Priest, Motorhead & Black Sabbath and the bonus cd is entirely Judas Priest, therefore, it is clear that this is what constitutes metal!

the budget cd has spoken!!!!

:D

[Megabyte]

Silence piiig.

[Movius]

I define what is or isn't metal. Because, in the words of Dream Evil...

I am so fucking metal and so is my wife
I AM HIS WIFE
SHUT UP!

[StygiaN]

lol, dream evil, what a bunch of dudes!

[excalibur]

After Consulting my MP3 and CD collection, I have decided that there should be 2 subcategories of metal. They are:

The Stuff that's Classically aranged and very technical. Such as - Opeth, Tool, Early Metallica, Judas Preist, Iron Maiden and so forth.

The second Subcategory - The Stuff that's very guitar riff oriented. The classisally arranged stuff is still riff oriented, but there is a difference. I put bands such as Black album and after Metallica, Mudvayne, Black Sabbath, Iced Earth....

You get the picture.

I listen to all kinds of metal, from Metallica, to Iron Maiden, to Black Sabbath to soilwork, Opeth, tool, Iced earth, Disturbed, Stone Sour, I'd say about 99% of the stuff that's out there. There are bands I don't like (Cradle of Filth) But you get that.

I listen to it because it's fun to play (I play guitar) and it either Pumps me up, or calms me down (cause I get rid of excess energy) and if I could be 1/2 as good as a lot of the "classical" metal guitarists, I would be happy.

[Movius]

Originally posted by excalibur
After Consulting my MP3 and CD collection, I have decided that there should be 2 subcategories of metal. They are:

The Stuff that's Classically aranged and very technical. Such as - Opeth, Tool, Early Metallica, Judas Preist, Iron Maiden and so forth.

The second Subcategory - The Stuff that's very guitar riff oriented. The classisally arranged stuff is still riff oriented, but there is a difference. I put bands such as Black album and after Metallica, Mudvayne, Black Sabbath, Iced Earth....

You get the picture.

I listen to all kinds of metal, from Metallica, to Iron Maiden, to Black Sabbath to soilwork, Opeth, tool, Iced earth, Disturbed, Stone Sour, I'd say about 99% of the stuff that's out there. There are bands I don't like (Cradle of Filth) But you get that.

I listen to it because it's fun to play (I play guitar) and it either Pumps me up, or calms me down (cause I get rid of excess energy) and if I could be 1/2 as good as a lot of the "classical" metal guitarists, I would be happy. These categorisations are flawed and at least 50% of metal bands(figures not verified) are not covered. Also your definitions are contradictory and are about as easy to understand as an early Emperor demo.

[Lord_Phat]

Originally posted by excalibur
After Consulting my MP3 and CD collection, I have decided that there should be 2 subcategories of metal. They are:

The Stuff that's Classically aranged and very technical. Such as - Opeth, Tool, Early Metallica, Judas Preist, Iron Maiden and so forth.

The second Subcategory - The Stuff that's very guitar riff oriented. The classisally arranged stuff is still riff oriented, but there is a difference. I put bands such as Black album and after Metallica, Mudvayne, Black Sabbath, Iced Earth....

You get the picture.

I listen to all kinds of metal, from Metallica, to Iron Maiden, to Black Sabbath to soilwork, Opeth, tool, Iced earth, Disturbed, Stone Sour, I'd say about 99% of the stuff that's out there. There are bands I don't like (Cradle of Filth) But you get that.

I listen to it because it's fun to play (I play guitar) and it either Pumps me up, or calms me down (cause I get rid of excess energy) and if I could be 1/2 as good as a lot of the "classical" metal guitarists, I would be happy.

early metallica was classically arranged?

*listens to hit the lights*

:banana:

[excalibur]

They where just ramnblings I didn't really think about much. I realise there are a lot of bands left out, and now i think about it, thereare more than I thougt there would be, but in saying that, what band truly fits into any one category anyway?

[Bostonmess]

Blue etc, they fit into the Shite catagory. ;)

[excalibur]

By the Classically Arranged, I mean more of the not a definate "verse, chorus verse chorus bridge chorus verse chorus end." style of song. I put early metalica into that bit more for the technicality of their early music, most of it is an absolute bitch to play, using 6/8 time, wich is a bit of an alternate to the standard 4/4. The instrumentals Call of Ktulu and Orion are also very classical, many modern instrumentals still follow the above song pattern, whereas they do not. the have more "chapters" ie. here is this part, and now for something completely different. This is glaringly obvious in Orion.

[Bostonmess]

Orion is simply, fucking, amazing. And probably my favourite ever instrumental.

[excalibur]

I can't separate Orion and Call of Ktulu. I really like the S&M version of Call of Ktulu.

*drools*

[Lord_Phat]

Originally posted by excalibur
I can't separate Orion and Call of Ktulu. I really like the S&M version of Call of Ktulu.

*drools*

s&m was hideously disappointing... limited rewriting of existing guitar highlights and some percussion...

had so much potential for them to really push the limits, they chose to be soft and make $ :(

orion is a fucking cawsome song, spent many a stoned evening playing that fucker over and over and over until i was threatened with death :D

[Movius]

S&M was pissweak. To me it was merely an attempt to imitate better (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDSUB040402092338112675&sql=A8sd8vwzya9ik) albums (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDSUB040402092338112675&sql=Aw1fe4j373wa4) that had recently been released.

[psi_ko]

i hate to start the "xyz is not metal"

but i really dont think chalice is metal.....

they fucking rock but...

alchemist
daysend
antrax
maiden
motorhead
metallica
tool
nevermore
opeth <------no standing tickets left for syd show:swear: :swear: skinlab
slayer
soulfly/sepultura
cradle of filth
rammstein
shihad (older stuff but new stuff is cool too)
white zombie/rob zombie
CHILDREN OF BODOM <------why has no one i know about this band??!!
murderdolls
machinehead
kyuss
qotsa
nightwish (like chalice not really metal tho sorta kinda)
sirenia (as above)
tristania (as above)
psi.kore (damn they broke up!!)
henrys anger (as above)
BLOODDUSTER (are nuts but all the same)
Damaged
Disturbed

thats all that i can think of right now....

[Movius]

Originally posted by psi_ko
i hate to start the "xyz is not metal"

but i really dont think chalice is metal.....

they fucking rock but...

nightwish (like chalice not really metal tho sorta kinda)
sirenia (as above)
tristania (as above)

These statements mystify me. All the bands above are clearly metal bands, I especially can't see how Tristania or Sirenia could be mistaken for a non-metal band.


CHILDREN OF BODOM <------why has no one i know about this band??!!
I know of them. Some of their stuff is very good, however their latest album isn't particularly great. The main problem being that the vocallist started to get delusions of competence.


opeth <------no standing tickets left for syd show :swear:
As if you wouldn't get your ticket the moment they went on sale. *Strokes Opeth ticket lovingly*.

[StygiaN]

Originally posted by excalibur
By the Classically Arranged, I mean more of the not a definate "verse, chorus verse chorus bridge chorus verse chorus end." style of song. I put early metalica into that bit more for the technicality of their early music, most of it is an absolute bitch to play, using 6/8 time, wich is a bit of an alternate to the standard 4/4. The instrumentals Call of Ktulu and Orion are also very classical, many modern instrumentals still follow the above song pattern, whereas they do not. the have more "chapters" ie. here is this part, and now for something completely different. This is glaringly obvious in Orion.

I am not sure what you mean there excaliber. By early stuff I assume you mean the first four albums. And Justice for all is pretty complex in terms of time signiture and so are the instrumentals on RtL and MoP as well as a few riffs in selected songs but come on, most of the songs, especially on Kea, follow the intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/chorus/verse/outro pattern. What makes some Metallica riffs tough is that they are fast and supposed to be played with downward pick action.

I have to run but what I am saying is that the rythym section of Metallica is not complex, it's just fast.

[psi_ko]

well to sorta elaborate on what i said concerning chalice/tristania/sirenia i think ive heard them classified as dark ambient and goth metal so yeah look i dunno but for mine a metal band has to have a hard guitar riff and drums i can see how even by this definition tristania et al fall under the category of metal but something just seems to be missing....a little too much piano/samples perhaps? i dunno ..... some songs i can say are definetly metal influenced and metal but i mean its just an opinion.....

they all rock tho......go and buy their cds!!!

cant belive i missed fear factory on my list....

and about missing opeth standin tickets....shuddup......some of us are poor students :mad:

[Lord_Phat]

Originally posted by psi_ko
*snip*

and about missing opeth standin tickets....shuddup......some of us are poor students :mad:

worst excuse ever! :D

bought tickets for myself and a smallish group of friends the very morning they went on sale...

if you can't afford opeth tickets, whore your ass! :fag:

[psi_ko]

oh ill Be there, got a ticket but i didnt get the $$ to get one until after all the standing tickets got sold.....so ill be sitting....:grr:

[Lord_Phat]

Originally posted by psi_ko
oh ill Be there, got a ticket but i didnt get the $$ to get one until after all the standing tickets got sold.....so ill be sitting....:grr:

sitting? :olde-wolbers: :fag:

[mysterious-dr-x]

Originally posted by psi_ko
CHILDREN OF BODOM <------why has no one i know about this

a mate of mines fav band i believe.

[Movius]

Originally posted by Lord_Phat
sitting? :olde-wolbers: :fag:
:olde-wolbers: indeed old chum.

checking "Disable smilies in this post" was necessary on this occasion.

[Lord_Phat]

totally forgot about :o :swear:

[excalibur]

There is this guy at my Local, he's a huge metalhead, and looks almost exactly like Devin Townsend (including the balding), he's crazy, There is another guy that looks almost exactly like Dimebag Darrel...

Completely pointless post really, I just thought it was funny....

[Hippy Vindalou]

There is this guy at my Local, he's a huge metalhead, and looks almost exactly like Devin Townsend (including the balding), he's crazy, There is another guy that looks almost exactly like Dimebag Darrel...

I believe its compulsory for all locals to have those guys now.
:)
I stopped giving a damn about classifying my metal yonks ago, everyones opinion on catagories is different anyway.
Grinspoon are just pubrock/hardrock here in Oz, but I remember reading an interview with Phil where he said he couldnt believe it when they first toured america cos they kept getting all the headbangers to their shows and all the mags classed them as metal.
I used to listen to nothing but metal/punk stuff religiously but the older I get the less i care. if it sounds good it goes in the pile. I used to have seperate shelves for different catagories but i ran out of shelves.
All my stuff is loosely in alphabetical order now regardless of style.
(rap,99.9% of pop/top 100 and whats classed as RnB these days will never make that pile)

and Iron Maidon and the like may not seem like metal compared to whats out now but they were all part of the NWOBHM once upon a time. i guess its all relative to what you have to compare it to at the time.

[Lord_Phat]

Originally posted by Hippy Vindalou
...part of the NWOBHM once upon a time...

took me a moment or two to remember what the hell NWOBHM meant :D

[psi_ko]

new wave of bad hair metal?

its a guess.....

iron maiden still rock!

[Hippy Vindalou]

new wave of bad hair metal?

bloody close but not quite, tho there were some embaresing mullets goin on.
New Wave Of British Heavy Metal- all the stuff coming out of britain in the 70s like saxon, judas priest, budgie, maiden, sabbath and so on that went on to influence the yanks.



and maiden do rock

[psi_ko]

oic

would mercyful fate fall into that category? or twisted sister?

and sabbath haircuts were sorta cool, or at least ozzies hair was!

[StygiaN]

I didn't think Mercyful Fate was British.

[zerothru7]

Anyone here ever listen to Scorched-earth Policy?

[Hippy Vindalou]

no, arent they a hardcore band into pro environment type stuff? i may be thinking about someone else. why? are they good?
like how i talk about not labeling bands anymore then 2 posts later i do just that? yay for hipocrasy!

[and3w]

Check out the front page for the report on Throbbing Gristle & Genesis p-Orridge. They were awesome and are still weird as fuck!

[Hippy Vindalou]

yeah just reading that now, i never really knew much about them except that bands i used to listen to, used to listen to them if you know what i mean. i just never got around to digging up any of their stuff. i think now i will:)

[and3w]

Originally posted by Hippy Vindalou
yeah just reading that now, i never really knew much about them except that bands i used to listen to, used to listen to them if you know what i mean. i just never got around to digging up any of their stuff. i think now i will:)

That's good to hear! Beware, some of their stuff is seriously fukt up :D I hope you enjoy it, let me know? :cool:

[zerothru7]

you can download some scorched-earth policy from the front page of soundbomb.org .I'm gonna post there new album there within the next week or so.and no they're not neccesarily "pro-enviroment" but they do freakin RAWK!Oh and yeah I have got to agree throbbing gristle are both awesome and weird as fuck!

[and3w]

This is possibly the first post for ages when no one has flamed me...and someone actually agrees with me! :D :D :D :D :cool:

*Famous last words*

[Hippy Vindalou]

And3w I got some TG. I couldnt find any albums in the shops here ( big surprise) so I "aquired" a few songs. I dont know if its typical TG or not but its different I'l give you that. I couldnt say I dislike it(i like the weird vibe of it) but its not the sort of thing I'd listen to a lot.
this is all i could get:-
slug bait
dead on arrival
urge to kill
last exit.
I would love to have been at a concert tho. Reading the biographies and accounts of people living during the era and in the area of bands i love makes me hate living in rural Aus sometimes if only for the lack of any real coherant "scene" if you know what i mean.(twice i've used that phrase now)

zerothru7 I got some SEP from that site too and it aint to shabby. Whats the go with that Soundbomb has it been going long? are you involved or did you just find it, doesnt seem to be much up and its a bit of a mix, but hey, theres nuthin wrong with that.

I have been listening to some Lamb of God lately, I really like it, reminds me of early Carcass for some reason. I have no idea how long they have been around or how many albums they have and i dont care, its just a refreshing change from the stuff my eardrums have been assailed with for a while so I'l make the most of it i think. Speaking of which , its high time i ripped some Carcass and Cathedral to mp3. HUGGY BEAR OH YEAH!!

dont let the metal thread die, all you guys have put me onto some good gear.

[wibble]

Anyone else out there who's in to Therapy? One of the best metal bands I have ever heard live!

[Hippy Vindalou]

I absolutely fucking loved the Garbage album from Therapy?!!
some lowlife bucket of steaming monkey spunk stole it from my car then i got another copy and its been to so many pissups its just scratched to shit. i must buy another. i first heard thier teethginder song and from then on bought everything they ever bought out tho i must say they went a bit soft after garbage but fuck me i loved that album so much i didnt care. i would have given a fuckload of something valuable to have seen them play live you lucky bastard. YOU CANT HIDE THE KNIVES!!!!

[Movius]

I went to see the Dillinger Escape Plan play in Adelaide recently. They were fucking brilliant (the only minor flaws involving the new vocallist struggling with his Mike Patton impersonation for a few small parts of Hollywood Squares and When Good Dogs Do Bad Things.) I would highly recommend to anyone who has the chance to go see them, that they take advantage of this opportunity.

Also, another band i have been listening to a lot recently is the Swedish black metal band Sonderfall. Despite the "raw" production style and rasping vocals, their album "Ödeläggelse" is actually extremely good and original. Which is quite an achievement, given that making true frosbitten raw kvlt etc. black metal even listenable is something that many bands struggle to achieve. Observe the website http://www.sonderfall.nu (Many mp3s there), I recommend the song "Född Under 666". "No Humans" and "Hellbound" from their earlier, more industrial-tinged demos, are also quite good.

[Thyrd]

I like the heavier shit, but it also has to be talented and dynamic.

I listen to:
Metallica: best metal band ever, and my personal favourite.
Rage against the machine: They have broken up now, but the music was awesome.
System of a down
Slayer

They are all awesome. Metallica was wicked this year at the big day out. It went off when they played master of puppets. My fav song is master of Puppets from Syphony & metallica.

[zerothru7]

Dude dillinger escape plan RAWKS!Has anyone heard the most recent killing joke album.Pretty fookin dope.

Hippy Vindalou-Yeah i run soundbomb.org w/ a buddy (I'm KUNGFOOLiO).Its only been up since early february this year and we're still working out the bugs,learning php ect...So spread the word if yr so inclined.

And yeah lamb of god Rawks!

cheers!

[metalhed00]

I agree with Thyrd. I need some talent or uniquness in my music. I listen to everything from Johnny Cash to Bob Seger to Megadeth to Nine Inch Nails, but metal is definately my favorite. (As if you couldn't tell by my screen name!) Some bands that are in my C.D. rotation the most:

MetallicA
Soulfly
Sepultura (Mostly the old, but the new has some good ones)
AC/DC
Megadeth
Slayer
Motorhead
Slipknot (I think the mask, scary guy thing is getting old though)
Rammstein (Cool live!)
Pantera
Ozzy
Black Label Society
deftones
Guns 'N Roses

I'm sure I've missed a few, but here's some!

[kyuss]

I've been listening to a bit of pelican of late, they have some fairly good distorted riffs.

And i've been giving godspeed some time.

[metalhed00]

What are some of the better Australian metal bands? I know the obvious like Jet and AC/DC and Jet sucks! I've also heard of one called Gob, but I never seen their C.D. Name a few and I'll look for them the next time I goto C.D. store. I'm American so I'm sure some of them I won't be able to find.

When I visited Australia, I went to a football game and there was some rap group named like Local Knowledge. They were all right (for an Australian rap group :D ) and I bought their C.D. for five bucks. Anyone ever heard of these guys or have they done anything special over there?

[excalibur]

Alchemist are one of the biggest Aussie Metal bands..... Scarily good musicians...


Dungeon aer also cool, great power metal, a little Judas Preisty sounding at times, but that is not a bad thing at all.

[Lord_Phat]

chalice (http://chalice.mu) pwn my panties!

awesome aussie band :banana:

[Movius]

Originally posted by Lord_Phat
chalice (http://chalice.mu) pwn my panties!

awesome aussie band :banana:
listen to the man, he speaks wise words.

[psi_ko]

^^ill go with those 2 ^^

everyone go buy their new album....

jet are metal??

and alchemist fucking rock.....


as do dungeon....


and daysend.....

http://ozmetalguide.metalofoz.com/index1.htm gives a pretty damn complete listing of aussie metal bands....check it....

[Hippy Vindalou]

I am totaly rapt with Machinae Supremacy, its just absolutely fucking brilliant, original and one of the best blends of electronic with heavy riffage i have ever heard. I cant get enuf of this right now.

Forget Jet Metalhead00 if you want good aussie metal get Alchemists - Organasm album
Christbait
damaged
Sadistic execution
bloodduster

[Hired Goon]

Originally posted by Hippy Vindalou

Christbait


I just ordered Christbait's Dirtypunkmutha album from Missing Link (http://www.missinglink.net.au)

I saw them once a long time ago when I was at Uni - so bought it on a whim.

Also bought Boris - Amplifier worship (Japanese) who play some serious heavy geetar action

[Thyrd]

I honestly cannot express in words my absolute hatred for Jet. The whole 70's revival thing is getting really annoying. I saw Jet at the big day out. I was not impressed. Then again im very particular about my taste in music. The only band I hate more that Jet is the strokes. Not to step on anyone elses tastes, but the strokes songs are ,IMHO, just the same note played over and over again then after 10 seconds they change note. With this they add vocals that sound more like whining than singing.

My brother has recently been telling me how good slipknot is. I have yet to hear any of their music. From what I hear though, they are a great live act to see, somewhere on par with ramstein (not sure if I spelt that correctly).

[Hippy Vindalou]

damaged is in the same sort of vein as christbait possibly a bit more on the heavy side than experimental side of christbait.
i also find the strokes to be particularly monotonal and monotonous.
i pulled out some Cathedral stuff earlier tonight and am quite enjoying The Ethereal Mirror after a few years break. Lee Dorian stuff is always quite good

[Hired Goon]

Originally posted by Thyrd
I honestly cannot express in words my absolute hatred for Jet. The whole 70's revival thing is getting really annoying. I saw Jet at the big day out. I was not impressed.

The thing that annoys me about Jet is they get up there like they're some sort of rock gods. They're playing re-hashed stuff - and take themselves way too seriously given this fact.

When compared to Eagles of Death Metal - who are just having a bit of fun (stupid lyrics, film clips and bad drumming by Josh Homme) - Jet being heralded as the next big thing is a bit of a joke.

As for the Strokes - his singing really shits me. Another band taking themselves too seriously.

PS. Hippy Vindalou - Lee Dorian sings 'Ice Cold Man' on Probot's album - definitely worth a listen.

[metalhed00]

Originally posted by metalhed00
I agree with Thyrd. I need some talent or uniquness in my music. I listen to everything from Johnny Cash to Bob Seger to Megadeth to Nine Inch Nails, but metal is definately my favorite. (As if you couldn't tell by my screen name!) Some bands that are in my C.D. rotation the most:

MetallicA
Soulfly
Sepultura (Mostly the old, but the new has some good ones)
AC/DC
Megadeth
Slayer
Motorhead
Slipknot (I think the mask, scary guy thing is getting old though)
Rammstein (Cool live!)
Pantera
Ozzy
Black Label Society
deftones
Guns 'N Roses

I'm sure I've missed a few, but here's some!

Oh shit, I forgot one of the best bands ever!

The Misfits

[Hippy Vindalou]

is misfits is good.
you like old danzig era better or the newer stuff? me i like both.
whats your opinions of Velvet revolver? its guns n roses with scott weiland singing isnt it? they got a bit of play on rage. only heard one song - not really inspired so far.
I did quite like the neurotic outsiders album but none of the other GnR sideprojects have thrilled me.

[Thyrd]

Im getting into a lot of the old Metal now from the early 80's and stuff. Motorhead and Diamond Head are awesome. Motorheads got a new album coming out in 13 days, at least thats what it says on their web site.

[metalhed00]

Originally posted by Hippy Vindalou
is misfits is good.
you like old danzig era better or the newer stuff? me i like both.
whats your opinions of Velvet revolver? its guns n roses with scott weiland singing isnt it? they got a bit of play on rage. only heard one song - not really inspired so far.
I did quite like the neurotic outsiders album but none of the other GnR sideprojects have thrilled me.

I like the some of Danzig stuff and some of Graves stuff. Velevet Revolver is not that good. Slash is not rocking out but he wasn't that good in Slash's Snakepit either, but some friends love that band. Slash is one of the best guitar players ever and he should really put out an album with him doing his thing, not just putting out stupid bullshit. Is the Neurotic Outsiders, Duff's band? I have an Izzy Stradlin too and that also does nothing for me. Axl and Slash kick ass together and I wish GNR would have a reuion tour but that is never going to happen, unless both are strapped for cash in 20 years.

[Megabyte]

So how many of the Sydneyites are going to Bloodlust IV on July 3rd at Blacktown RSL? I'd go but bother excalibur and I are broke. :( I'll have to save up for Metal For the Brain at the end of the year, down in Canberra though. :D I went last year, and despite standing up for way too long and having an achey back, it was great.

[Hippy Vindalou]

Neurotic outsiders was these guys
Steve Jones: Guitar, Vocals(sex pistols), Duff McKagan: Guitar, Vocals, Matt Sorum: Drums, Vocals,(both GnR) John Taylor: Bass, Vocals (dunno maybe STP?)

It was never gonna set the world on fire, the lyrics are a bit of a laugh at times but I quite liked it at the time and it still gets a blast now and then. good drinkin before you go out music.

[psi_ko]

Originally posted by Moebs
So I went last year, and despite standing up for way too long and having an achey back, it was great.

did you see me? i was the one in black!

haha no seriously the solution to a sore back from standing is to jump around up the front.

considering blodlust IV......astriaal :banana:

[NikkiSixx]

-anyone who disses metallica will fucking die i dont care who you are

-blood duster is the best metal band in Aus

-Livemetallica.com is the best thing in the world

-c.o.c is cool you un educated fucks

-the last haunted was cool

-you could be mine is the most bogan thing in the world

-birdflesh is cool

grindcore is the best form of metal

[Mattryx]

fucking word.

[Asmodeus]

Metallica sucks, everything from the black album till now is garbage, they sold out hardcore and are too busy sucking on teh corporate cock to care about you anymore.

They are no longer much of anything resembling metal and mere shades of their former selves. They couldn't write anything good now if they tried, they forgot what hard and heavy is.

Just face it, they're done.. they're more alternative hard rock than anything now and even doing a poor imitation of that.

and again.. they're sellouts, no matter what they say.

[metalhed00]

At first Load was a shitty album n my opinion. I saw them live and listened to some live albums doing the Load songs and I think Load is just as good as any MetallicA album because it has some different sounds but good energy.

Re-load is trash and is very boring. Fuel is cool, Memory Remains is cool, and some have some good parts but it isn't up to par.

S&M kicks ass with the exception of Outlaw Torn, why they chose that long ass song is beyond me. The crowd probably was sleeping when they got that one done.

St. Anger is cool, but that not that cool. I'm still shelling out hard earned cash to see them this October because its a show I couldn't miss. I think MetallicA's music is still rough and Hetfield is a true voice of many.

I saw part of their documentary where James was yelling at Lars and walks out on him. Too bad he didn't punch him square in the jaw. I think MetallicA needs to lose Bob Rock and force Lars to take some lessons. The next album should have some solos, too.

[Asmodeus]

look at most of the bands out there, as soon as they kicked the drugs and/or alcohol, they realyl started to suck or really decline.. ozzy, metallica, megadeth to name a few.

at least the new exodus is pretty ass kicking

[metalhed00]

Originally posted by Asmodeus
look at most of the bands out there, as soon as they kicked the drugs and/or alcohol, they realyl started to suck or really decline.. ozzy, metallica, megadeth to name a few.

at least the new exodus is pretty ass kicking

No way! Ozzy (except for his dumb show but I think that's the wifey, not him) wrote No More Tears and did Ozzfest in his drug free years.

Megadeth did Cryptic Writings which rocks all the way through.

You know what band should've stayed off alcohol? Deftones. They have consistently gone down the tubes. I thought they were the next "future of metal" band after adrenaline and around the fur came out. White Pony sucks dick except the one single. I've seen them live 3 or 4 times and each time it gets more noisy and sloppy.

[excalibur]

Originally posted by NikkiSixx
[B]-anyone who disses metallica will fucking die i dont care who you are

-blood duster is the best metal band in Aus



I want to make an ammendment to your first point, "anyone who disses WHAT METALLICA HAVE DONE............"

I don't agree with your second point. Sure Blood duster have heaps of energy, but you cant distingush a damn thing that gets said, and the whole band sounds like a wall of noise. IMHO the best metal bands in Aus would either be Dungeon or Alchemist.

[Mattryx]

Metallica sucks, everything from the black album till now is garbage, they sold out hardcore and are too busy sucking on teh corporate cock to care about you anymore.


Asmodeus-yes you fuck goats





I think MetallicA needs to lose Bob Rock

name a better producer if you say rick rubin youre a fuckhead he only has a good engineer

[Asmodeus]

Originally posted by metalhed00
No way! Ozzy (except for his dumb show but I think that's the wifey, not him) wrote No More Tears and did Ozzfest in his drug free years.

Megadeth did Cryptic Writings which rocks all the way through.


different strokes I think. i think the stuff before when they were totally sloshed/stoned out of their minds was some of their best stuff. I doubt it has anything to do with enhancing hteir craetivity or other such nonsense, but it just generally seems to enhance their ability to 'let it all go' when doing things.

i mean come on, tell me when ozzy was really flying high that he didn't have his best stage shows and everything else. he was an excellent showman and entertainer in general back then

[psi_ko]

Originally posted by excalibur
I IMHO the best metal bands in Aus would either be Dungeon or Alchemist.

alchemist. hands down.

notable mentions would be dungeon, daysend, henrys anger, destroyer666 bloodduster and superheist i think anyway.

apparently theres a new megadeth album coming soon:banana:

[Hippy Vindalou]

Metallica sucks, everything from the black album till now is garbage, they sold out hardcore and are too busy sucking on teh corporate cock to care about you anymore. They are no longer much of anything resembling metal and mere shades of their former selves. They couldn't write anything good now if they tried, they forgot what hard and heavy is. Just face it, they're done.. they're more alternative hard rock than anything now and even doing a poor imitation of that. and again.. they're sellouts, no matter what they say.

Pretty much sums up my feelings about 'em. The black album was the begining of the end for them.


And Alchemist are the best aussie metal band.

[Mattryx]

You really mean that don't you?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[NikkiSixx]

ozzy is the biggest fucking joke in the world

[psi_ko]

yeah but sabbath....awesome

[Movius]

Alchemist are indeed very good, and put on a fairly good live performance when their equipment is working. But in my opinion Austral Alien was a bit of a let down compared to previous works.

[psi_ko]

yeah id agree

spiritech and organism i think had the right dynamic.

[metalhed00]

Originally posted by Mattryx
name a better producer if you say rick rubin youre a fuckhead he only has a good engineer

Rick Rubin is definately one of the best producers out there. I guess I'm a fuckhead. Also, I said MetallicA needs to lose Bob Rock, not Bob Rock sucks or anything like that. MetallicA should produce its own stuff completely and see what that does. Have you heard the newest Johnny Cash, its brilliant and Rubin helped that happen.

Originally posted by Asmodeus
I mean come on, tell me when ozzy was really flying high that he didn't have his best stage shows and everything else. he was an excellent showman and entertainer in general back then

Very true, but he's still pretty good creatively. I never got to see him when he was flying off his lid, except vids.

Originally posted by NikkiSixx
ozzy is the biggest fucking joke in the world

No, Nikki Sixx is. Maybe he will have another outer body experience after ODing from heroin. Tell us more Mr. Sixx!

[Asmodeus]

dude, you're talking to a guy thats so uncreative that he has to take the name of a washed up guitarist of mediocre talent.

heh, really, take a look at a lot of the pics of him and tell me he doesn't look lik ean extra from planet of the apes with one of those novelty shop rocker wigs on.

[pleed]

Nikki Sixx is coming back in a BIG way.
He has just been awarded a lifetime achievement award for his contributions to metal, has started Brides of Destruction with Traci Guns and has this cool photo with alice cooper.

http://www.bridesofdestruction.com/WeddingAlbum/data/1/28IMG_0218-med.JPG

[StygiaN]

Metallica sucks, everything from the black album till now is garbage, they sold out hardcore and are too busy sucking on teh corporate cock to care about you anymore.


I know it's not a Metallica written song but the Mercyful Fate Medley is fucking metal pleasure!

Timformation: Did you listen to Burnt Offerings again?

[Necron]

Lately I have been listening to:

Samael
Daysend
Darkthrone
Amon Amarth

[Willcow]

Swedish metal is all you need.
In Flames and Soilwork

[StygiaN]

And Dark Tranquility!!!!

[Willcow]

In Flames, Soilwork and Dark Tranquility then (I nearly put in DT in the first place)

[Movius]

Swedish metal is all you need.
In Flames and Soilwork
OMG you forgot PassEngAr LOL!11111

(note sarcasm :p)

[Lord_Phat]

OMG you forgot PassEngAr LOL!11111

(note sarcasm :p)

stop hiding your true feelings beneath a thin veneer of sarcasm

anders \m/

[Movius]

It is true. I cannot fault the quality work of Mr Friden and co. Generic crap has never sounded so enchanting. I SWOON...

[Necron]

stop hiding your true feelings beneath a thin veneer of sarcasm

anders \m/

Ahh, Full metal racket saved me from a very boring day of work, listened to last weeks show. Good shit \m/
:D

[Willcow]

Did anyone see In Flames last month? It was very good indeed.

I'm used to live acts being unbalanced. The music and the vocals just never seem to mix properly. In my opinion though the softer songs (The Quiet Place, My Sweet Shadow, Evil In A Closet - That's all I can think of right now) in this case just sounded so much better than the CD. The rest were still very good too though

[Lord_Phat]

Did anyone see In Flames last month? It was very good indeed.

I'm used to live acts being unbalanced. The music and the vocals just never seem to mix properly. In my opinion though the softer songs (The Quiet Place, My Sweet Shadow, Evil In A Closet - That's all I can think of right now) in this case just sounded so much better than the CD. The rest were still very good too though

how could they sound better than the aural delights distilled on the in flolames cds!?

[StygiaN]

Not quick NWOSDM but still cool. I have just gotten right into the Painkiller blum by Judas Priest. What an experience. It's been on continous rotation on my mp3 player for the past few days. A Touch of Evil, Nightcrawler, Painkiller. So sweet. I used to laugh at high pitch falsetto vocals but when Halford does his screams it sends shivers down my spine. Now if only the other Priest albums I had were anywhere near as good.

Dave

ps. I still want someone else to praise Dante's Inferno. Best metal song ever!

[StudMuffin]

Metallica
Area 54
Slayer
Anthrax
Iron Maiden
A Perfect Cirlce
Tool

All absolute class

[StygiaN]

ps. I still want someone else to praise Dante's Inferno. Best metal song ever!

I'm still waiting. It would be impossible for anyone to name a song better and actually mean it ;)

The Hellion/Electric Eye is pretty cool, so is Hallowed Be Thy Name, Master of Puppets and Holy Wars/The Punishment Due but, none of them even come close to the evilness that is Dante's Inferno.

LUCIFER!

What have you metal friends been listening to lately?

[Merudo]

Nikki webster






Wait... that's not metal.....

[StygiaN]

You're lucky I don't -rep you for that Merudo ;) +rep cause I know you're cool!

[excalibur]

I've always enjoyed the classics... Priest, Sabbath, Maiden... it's great.

It's hard to say what is evil, cause evil is like beauty... in the eye of the beholder... apparently...

[Movius]

Nothing particularly new. Anyone who doesn't check out Secret Chiefs 3 - Book of Horizons is a fool.

I am currently eagerly awaiting a time when i can get my paws on the new Enslaved and Pig Destroyer albums.

[StygiaN]

I'm listening to two old Therion albums at the moment. "Beyond Sanctorum" and "Of Darkness..." Next time I am in the city I will have to buy these two CD's. Therion are well worthy of my money ;)

ps. do you think I could find the Demonoid album in Utopia?

[Necron]

Newest addition to my collection is Samael - Ceremony of opposites/rebellion.

I want Reign of Light

[Hit And Rum]

I just picked up the Megadeth remastered box set. Bloody great!

Listened to Sabbath the other day as well which still rocks.

[Lord_Phat]

I'm listening to two old Therion albums at the moment. "Beyond Sanctorum" and "Of Darkness..." Next time I am in the city I will have to buy these two CD's. Therion are well worthy of my money ;)

lemuria/sirius b is by far their best album :fag:

[StygiaN]

I have heard that Phatty, it's not cool at all. Too much non metal stuff going on. I just want two guitars, bass, drums and a dude screaming/growling/singing. That's all. Keyboards bore me to tears :(

[Movius]

keyboards? no keyboards on Lemuria or Sirius B (Aside from a Hammond organ on 1 track i think.) They are however used quite a bit on Of Darkness and Beyond Sanctorum.

[Lord_Phat]

a string section is not keyboards :fag:

[Movius]

philharmonic orchestra buster! not a mere strings section

[Lord_Phat]

well i hope he wasn't mistaking a fucking timpani for a keyboard... i was assuming that a "similar" sound would be the string section :fag:

[Movius]

synth horns or woodwind instruments are just as common :insultingemoticon:

[Lord_Phat]

blolw my synth horn :fag:

[StygiaN]

Keyboard, Synth, Orchestra, same fucking thing. It's all boring.

[Lord_Phat]

Keyboard, Synth, Orchestra, same fucking thing. It's all boring.

that's the sort of closed minded attitude we openly embrace around here :fag:

[DAnube]

how do most people class what they listen to?
i think it should be the whole picture, not just the music, not the singing style, not the lyrics, i try to class bands by looking at wverything the band has to offer

the other night we went to the basement, for anyone who lives in brisvegas, and saw a band playing some pretty heavy riffs that both longhaired guitarists were headbanging to and i thought to myself "tonights gonna be fun" soon i realised that every now and agiain the lead would play some kind of crappy little avril lavigne style solo thing that just shit me to tears, but then into some nice heavy stuff so yeh whaever u know. the vocals setup wasnt too good so it took awhile to hears the actual lyrics, in between screaming, and this litle punk was singing some bitch song about his girlfriend
BOO HOO MUTERFUCKER JOIN A PUNK BAND AND COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW U SKINNED URE KNEE AND BROKE URE SKATEBOARD TOO
i stayed cos i enjoyed the music (drummer pulled off some awesome shit)

how to clasify this? all except the lyrics was really good hard rock/metal (dunno cos it had solos.... BUT.....)

id classify it as 'in need of new vox'

i think i had a point but forgot it...
ROCK ON whatever u listen to
cept strokees. FUCK OFF STROKES!

[StygiaN]

that's the sort of closed minded attitude we openly embrace around here :fag:

Actually it's not a close minded attitude. I find it boring. I have listened to plenty of heavy metal which have string/keyboards etc. I don't like it. I didn't dismiss it without giving it a go, that's closed minded. FUCKER! :)

[Lord_Phat]

Actually it's not a close minded attitude. I find it boring. I have listened to plenty of heavy metal which have string/keyboards etc. I don't like it. I didn't dismiss it without giving it a go, that's closed minded. FUCKER! :)

i find dismissing music as "boring" because it contains certain instruments close minded :fag:

i bet you like metallica - orion ... yet it contains bad synth keyboards at the start :p

[StygiaN]

I was going to argue your point but it's a bit fruitless. You're not going to change your point of view and I'm not going to change mine so what's the point.

Anyway, now listening to Metallica - Orion ;)

[Lord_Phat]

the point of arguing on the internet is to keep going until someone posts the "arguing on the internet" pic of the retarded guy running :fag:

[Movius]

no it isn't.

[Lord_Phat]

yes it is :fag:

[Hippy Vindalou]

I have listened to nothing but Iron Maidon's Seventh son of a seventh son and Powerslave albums for the last 3 weeks.
My new neighbours must be loving it. They listen to nothing but R&B, rap rubbish.
I like to think I'm doing them a favour.

[Hit And Rum]

Dimebag Darrell (formerly Pantera), one of his band mates from Damageplan and several crowd goers have just been shot dead on stage

This is fucked up. Here is the link:

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11639641%255E1702,00.html

[StygiaN]

Wow that is very fucked up.

ps. two great albums vindalou, you truely are doing your neighbours a favour ;)

[Movius]

Nothing particularly new. Anyone who doesn't check out Secret Chiefs 3 - Book of Horizons is a fool.

I am currently eagerly awaiting a time when i can get my paws on the new Enslaved and Pig Destroyer albums.
I have now obtained these albums.

Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer: In the immortal words of Pokey The Penguin, "YES!!!" If you want music that will jump out of the speakers, rip out your entrails and then set them on fire, then you shouldn't listen to this album as it will be far too intense for you.

It has 21 brilliantly evil songs in 32 minutes + 'Natasha' the 37 minute 5.1 audio dvd track, brilliant artwork and a great storyline. In conclusion fuck you for not having this album already.

Enslaved - Isa: This is another quality album from Enslaved. "True black metal" that is "Truly Progressive" (Insert further appropriate buzzphrases here.) There is a lot too absorb in the album though, much like their last work Below The Lights, it will require further listens to truly comprehend.

Added Bonus: Strapping Young Lad live DVD - This is very good, although there are many annoying editing habits like, constant cuts to Picture in Picture or ridiculously fast photo slideshow effect in parts.

[Fitty]

Can't get enough of Judas Priest's Touch of Evil. 4:43 in, that scream...

[BSS]

Yeah I have the Strapping DVD. I also like it, but two things I found unnerving...

Was there a problem with Dev's guitar during the early parts of the gig?
The guy they got up to sing Far Beyond Metal. Funny ("You'll have to live with this for the rest of your life!"), but I'd have liked to have a nicer version of the song.

I realise they only had one shot to film it, so nothing could be done really.

[StygiaN]

Can't get enough of Judas Priest's Touch of Evil. 4:43 in, that scream...

Is that the "You posessing me" scream?

It's fucking awesome, spine chilling stuff yeah!

[Hippy Vindalou]

Just heard the remixed version of 'Number of the beast' on Kerrang radio.
Fucking sexcellant!
Not really much changed from what I could tell but it just sounds beefier, more guts to it.

[StygiaN]

Remixed? I thought they remixed all the albums a while ago, with extra multimedia features and huge booklets.

I have the Powerslave one and it's tops.


Top song

Iced Earth - Dracula <----- it's impossible to say it's not cool ;)

[Hippy Vindalou]

Looks like they may have done it again, but just for that song. Its going to be re-released on the 3rd of January.

http://www.ironmaiden.com/homepage.php?section=0&subsection=0
Doesnt say anything about it being remixed on thier website though.
Maybe because they said it was remixed and I was trying to pick the difference, I thought I heard changes that werent really there.
Oh sweet bourbon what tricks you play on me. :confused:

[Hippy Vindalou]

The remixed albums were good. You got all the video clips from that album on the discs too.
I got Ed's head with 13 of the redone discs in it for $100 bucks aus.
Jeez its good to know someone who works in a record shop.:D

[StygiaN]

What's your favourite IM album Hippy?

[Hippy Vindalou]

Dunno mate. I suppose its Seventh Son because I probably listen to that more than the others closely followed by Powerslave.
I tend to have favourite songs rather than whole albums, Iron Maidon have had some pretty average songs in thier day thats for sure but with a back catalogue that big you have to expect that. They have plenty of classic stuff that people will listen to forever though so that makes up for any dud songs.

[Thyrd]

Got payed yesterday and bought the megadeth rude awakening album. Is good ja.

Also was looking for some iced earth albums, but the fags didn't have them. So I got Metallica's "And justice for all" album.

[StygiaN]

Thyrd filldave@hotmail.com

I'll send you any IE album you want as mp3 via msn (as long as you promise to buy it) :)

Burnt Offerings is their best!
I bought Megadeth's latest today as well as the Demonoid album. fuck demonoid is some heavy shit. I don't know how much heavier music can get ;)

ps. Rude Awakening is cool. The DVD is fun too.

[Thyrd]

Thats okay dude, I'm almost done with a few of IE's songs on kazaa.

Ofcourse I'll buy it, if I like them.

[Merudo]

this is my favourite metal

http://www.blonnet.com/2003/03/01/images/2003030100782201.jpg

[psi_ko]

Remixed?

remixed? remastered. dontchamean?

[StygiaN]

Yeah prolly psi_ko. Though looking at my copy of Number of the Beast I wold say neither. My appologies to Hippy.

ps. Number of the Beast is thier best album in my humble opinion. Hallowed be Thy Name, best song ever.

[psi_ko]

is there a bad maiden song? i think not!

[Thyrd]

I bought Megadeth's latest today

I went out and purchased that today aswell. I bought so much shit today though, I have not had the chance to have a proper listen to it.

[StudMuffin]

Number of the Beast is thier best album in my humble opinion. Hallowed be Thy Name, best song ever.

yes, yes and yes, one of the best maiden solos as well

[StygiaN]

I went out and purchased that today aswell. I bought so much shit today though, I have not had the chance to have a proper listen to it.

Let me know what you think of it when you give it a good spin ;)

Bad maiden song, I can think of a few. Everything on the Virtual XI album, everything on the latest one, I can't even remember it's name. They have a lot of weak songs but the strong ones more than make up for it.

Nipple!

I love the solo in Aces High too. I'd probably put that above Hallowed be Thy Name. Oh and The Trooper, what a cool solo :) And transylvania has a sweet solo too.

Maiden yeah!

[StudMuffin]

It's Dance of Death and it has a couple of OK songs, I quite like track 8 i think it is

[stewie]

anyone here heard of i killed the prom queen or parkway drive??

[mysterious-dr-x]

iv started listening to alot more power metal recently.

namely:

sonata arctica (love them)
stratovarius
in flames
devin townsend
nightwish (though theyre not really power)

& generally quite a few finnish bands actually (am seriously considering going to tuska or something, liked the look of last years lineup, need to see if anyone has been announced for this year yet)

[Weisbrot]

i really like metallica and stuff. Great music. In my band we cover some songs.
it´s really fun to play the songs as lound and heavy we can ;) - little joke :)

in flames are cool, too- nice soli and a nice voice

[StygiaN]

What songs do you cover weisbrot? I'd love to play Seek and Destroy if I was in a band. What a kick arse song!

[Weisbrot]

we cover : For Whom The Bell Tolls
Enter Sandman
Master of Pupptes

We are just playing together for 1 week :)
But its really cool :)

[Movius]

Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer: In the immortal words of Pokey The Penguin, "YES!!!" If you want music that will jump out of the speakers, rip out your entrails and then set them on fire, then you shouldn't listen to this album as it will be far too intense for you.

It has 21 brilliantly evil songs in 32 minutes + 'Natasha' the 37 minute 5.1 audio dvd track, brilliant artwork and a great storyline. In conclusion fuck you for not having this album already.

Enslaved - Isa: This is another quality album from Enslaved. "True black metal" that is "Truly Progressive" (Insert further appropriate buzzphrases here.) There is a lot too absorb in the album though, much like their last work Below The Lights, it will require further listens to truly comprehend.
After giving these two albums many further listens during my trip to Melbourne and Sydney, they are fast becoming favourites of mine (Although I think Below the lights is ever so slightly better than Isa.) Required listening for those wanting music with substance and depth.

[Asmodeus]

Empyrean Sky (http://www.empyreansky.com) owns all these fools.

[Movius]

Yeah, they're pretty good. But that bald 3rd guitarist seems a bit superfluous and unnecessary. :p

[excalibur]

Yeah, they're pretty good. But that bald 3rd guitarist seems a bit superfluous and unnecessary. :p
agreed. he plays a 7 string FFS!!!! :p

[Weisbrot]

oh, the singer with the long hair plays schecter guitars. I´ve got one of them :) pretty nice guitars.
:)

[stewie]

man i just got the dream theater -scenes from a memory cd......damn i love it..... oh and i also love MEGADETH!!

[defjux]

I could never find an album by these guys but SCARY GERMAN GUY is pretty fucking good. Anybody else heard of them?

[Asmodeus]

oh, the singer with the long hair plays schecter guitars. I´ve got one of them :) pretty nice guitars.
:)

actually, the singer ditched the shecter a while ago... only one who still plays one is doug.

not bad guitars, but their 7 strings are hard to play since they're so chunky.

[ShinymetalASS]

"Let me make sure I'm crystal clear on this issue: Heavy metal
fans are buying heavy metal records, taking the records home and
listening to the records and then blowing their heads off with
shotguns... Where's the problem?"
- Denis Leary

[Asmodeus]

bahahahaha.. hey.. wait a damn minute!

[ShinymetalASS]

bahahahaha.. hey.. wait a damn minute!

That just makes more minions for your army of darkness Lord.

[Asmodeus]

true, true, I just wish they would take a bath every once in a while.

[StygiaN]

I've been listening to Bloodbath - Nightmares Made Flesh (http://www.metal-rules.com/review/viewreview.php?band=&album=&post_by=&rating=&month=&letter=B&year=&pos=98) a lot lately. Pretty damn good if you ask me ;)

[Asmodeus]

Been jammin to God Dethroned here most of the day myself.

[Lord_Phat]

I've been listening to Bloodbath - Nightmares Made Flesh (http://www.metal-rules.com/review/viewreview.php?band=&album=&post_by=&rating=&month=&letter=B&year=&pos=98) a lot lately. Pretty damn good if you ask me ;)

opeth affiliation makes it win++

also madder mortem have been giving my ears some love recently :fag:

[sneagelman]

After all these years, it's still Led Zeppelin! :cool:

[Lord_Phat]

d'yer maker, please make it stop :fag:

[StygiaN]

opeth affiliation makes it win++


Åkerfeldt isn't in Bloodbath anymore but the new guy is amazing. I'm going to have to check out the other album soon! I've heard it's quite different though.

[Lord_Phat]

Åkerfeldt isn't in Bloodbath anymore but the new guy is amazing. I'm going to have to check out the other album soon! I've heard it's quite different though.

i realise this, hence affiliation... i've enjoyed their three releases quite a great deal... and yes peter has a sexy voice :fag:

[Hippy Vindalou]

Going back in time a bit here, (think tight pants, leather jacket, cock rock era), was anybody here a fan of the Wildhearts?
I found thier album Earth Vs the Wildhearts in amongst my stuff the other day after having thought I lost it years ago, and gave it a spin.
It was like jumping in a time machine, it was one of my favourite albums for drinking fucking and fighting to back in the day and be damned if I didnt feel like picking up where I left off on hearing it again.
One of my alltime favourites but not a band a lot of people outside the UK seem to have heard of.

[Lord_Phat]

i'm sure they've been mentioned in here previously, but i've finally given madder mortem a decent run on the bogan masheen

necropol lit is an absolute classic... the rest of the album "deadlands" languishes somewhat behind the aforementioned track, but it's still damned good stuff...

i recommend them as much as a i recommend a slice of movis pie :fag:

[Movius]

i'm sure they've been mentioned in here previously, but i've finally given madder mortem a decent run on the bogan masheen

necropol lit is an absolute classic... the rest of the album "deadlands" languishes somewhat behind the aforementioned track, but it's still damned good stuff...

i recommend them as much as a i recommend a slice of movis pie :fag:
Dying will be the death of you buster.

he is correct about the quality of Madder Mortem though.

Åkerfeldt isn't in Bloodbath anymore but the new guy is amazing. I'm going to have to check out the other album soon! I've heard it's quite different though. Mikael Åkerfeldt isn't the only opeth connection to Bloodbath. Incidentally the biggest 'affiliation' with bloodbath is probably with Katatonia.

[timace]

All I've really been listening to in recent times are Isis and the Deftones (no matter how much I listen to them, I can't get sick of them)

There's a lot more stuff on my ipod, but i have a tendency to skip through all the 'crap du jour'

[bogism]

All I've really been listening to in recent times are Isis and the Deftones (no matter how much I listen to them, I can't get sick of them)

There's a lot more stuff on my ipod, but i have a tendency to skip through all the 'crap du jour'

did you/anyone else go see isis last week?

it was awesome.

[kev]

anything by chevelle i'd never heard of these guys till about half way through this yr and now they would have to be one of the best bands i know

[chimianga]

anything by chevelle i'd never heard of these guys till about half way through this yr and now they would have to be one of the best bands i know
I was suprised by Chevelle normally I would find them a bit wimpy but I saw them at Ozzfest and they rocked the place.

[Movius]

Sad News (http://www.nasum.com/)

I'd only got into Nasum a few months ago. But from what i've heard they were a creative and original band and very good at what they did.

[mysterious-dr-x]

you know, i hate people who decide its a good idea to revive dead threads as much as the next person, but i feel i need to state my liking for less [dodgy] mainstream metal, & more for bands the like of kreator, bloodbath, sonata arctica, to name just 3.

[Lord Mephisto]

Bloodbath are ok dude, although the production lacks somewhat on their latest.

And err.. Sonata Arctica rock, (braces for flaming as poseur)

As far as more mainstream metal goes, haven't stopped listening to the latest Opeth or Nevermore albums. And good news for all us Emperor/Arcturus fans. New Arcturus album out soon... WOOT!

[Movius]

And good news for all us Emperor/Arcturus fans. New Arcturus album out soon... WOOT!Incorrect, the Arcturus album has been out for over a week, my copy is currently being delivered via aeroplane delivered mail along with the new Sigh album.

[mysterious-dr-x]

Bloodbath are ok dude, although the production lacks somewhat on their latest

saw them at wacken this year, potentially their only gig ever. movius informed me that i was a bitch or something similar. though this taunt is useless without pics, & alas, they are not uploaded yet.

[Movius]

saw them at wacken this year, potentially their only gig ever. movius informed me that i was a bitch or something similar. though this taunt is useless without pics, & alas, they are not uploaded yet.curse you.

I examine your death as I stab overhead,
your body cracks and I bathe in blood.

[Lord_Phat]

though this taunt is useless without pics

as is this post :boxing:

bloodbath are a fine metal masheen, even sans mikael :fag:

[macgyver]

well I just booked my tickets to come to melbourne to see arch enemy in november and I cant friggen wait!

yeehoo!

[Mr. Bungle]

I've been listening to a lot of metal lately, but most of the choices are due to excellent suggestions by Herr Movis:

Emperor
Nile
Immortal (although Movis thinks they are cartoons, I still think they can rock)
Exodus
Arcturus
Mayhem
Sepultura

[Movius]

Immortal (although Movis thinks they are cartoons, I still think they can rock)
I didn't say they weren't good. I just find their image quite hilarious (as it is meant to be).

[Mr. Bungle]

I didn't say they weren't good. I just find their image quite hilarious (as it is meant to be).
point taken :)

[DCenT3]

arch enemy, bezerker, marduk, slipknot and disturbed at the moment for me

[twistoffate]

It's probably been posted already, but Motley Crue's "Red White & Crue" is a really good set. I'm thinking about going to see them in December.

Anyone heard of Children Of Bodom? They're this...Finnish (I think...could be Norweigan) death metal band. They're awesome. Some of their riffs are more impressive than guitar solos by lesser bands.

[excalibur]

It's probably been posted already, but Motley Crue's "Red White & Crue" is a really good set. I'm thinking about going to see them in December.

Anyone heard of Children Of Bodom? They're this...Finnish (I think...could be Norweigan) death metal band. They're awesome. Some of their riffs are more impressive than guitar solos by lesser bands.
Bodom had 2 shows in Sydney last week.

[macgyver]

Bodom rock, as does alot of European metal, the more melodic sounds are what I generally prefer. I would have to say my potential albums of the year so far would be -

Kreator - Enemy of God (I dont think this album can be unseated before the end of the year)
Nile - Annihalation of the wicked
Dark Tranquility - Character
Nightrage - Descent into Chaos(this took quite a while to grown on me, wont be everyones fav I am sure)

Maybes-

Ghost Reveries, Doomsday Machine, Shovel Headed Kill Machine.

Any disagreeances or suggestions anyone? What have I missed this year?