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kré

09-05-2004, 11:26 PM

i get red x because of...

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Bostonmess

09-05-2004, 11:34 PM

Maybe it's a view from above and the red x is just the dodgy paintwork? :D

SamBo

10-05-2004, 08:47 AM

Inorder to fix the red x error that some people are getting, here is the image i originally linked to above:

metalhed00

11-05-2004, 07:33 AM

Not to be critical, but it looks like your back tire is falling off or is this the look of the rim?

Another question, why do people get so into modifying their cars to look like fast and the furious? I drive a Civic and the only thing I've though about buying is black rims because its a black car. Sometimes other people's cars look cool but most of the time I think people are just stupid, its kind of like a style for you car, just like Fubu Gear is a style of clothes. I'm not being judgemental, I'm just trying to hear what you guys have to say because all I see is alot of copycats and people trying to look cool and that to me is not being yourself. I bet most of these people's engines aren't even modified, they just have a noisy tailpipe, extended their bodies lower to the ground and glued on a spoiler that makes Formula One cars' spoilers look like they don't serve a purpose (for those of you who don't know why they're there, you should be revoked of your license and slapped until learn actually how to drive stick). This post is entirely way too long, sorry.

SamBo

11-05-2004, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by metalhed00
Not to be critical, but it looks like your back tire is falling off or is this the look of the rim?

Firstly, that's not my car
Secondly, although I own the same kind of car, I was joking about doing it to mine.
Thirdly, the Rim isn't falling off, it just has ridiculously flared guards to accommodate the ridiculously wide tyres. I think it looks stupid, but that was kind of the point of this thread, to get people's opinions on these over-the-top mods done on these cars in Japan

metalhed00

11-05-2004, 08:53 AM

I like the wide tires, but these don't even have treads on them. So stupid and useless.

Edit: Do you know if the Japanese put on the wider tailpipes to make them sound like whiny fart machines, like they do in America? So fucking annoying.

Nodbugger

11-05-2004, 09:16 AM

My car may not look cool but it can go 170mph.

1996 thunderbird V8. I dropped a turber charger in it. Some new exhaust sytems. the thing just flys.

I hate when people say "look at the stickers on that car! it must go fast!"

metalhed00

11-05-2004, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by Nodbugger
I hate when people say "look at the stickers on that car! it must go fast!"

All those 'Vote Bush' stickers must actually slow you down.

ersatz

11-05-2004, 10:40 AM

I'm guessing it's the automotive equivalent of casemodding.

minorproblem

11-05-2004, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by metalhed00
I like the wide tires, but these don't even have treads on them. So stupid and useless.

Edit: Do you know if the Japanese put on the wider tailpipes to make them sound like whiny fart machines, like they do in America? So fucking annoying.

You do realise that wider tired dont give you more grip on a hard surface seeming friction is force per area

Althought wide tires do give you more grip on soft surfaces like sand.

And its a scientificly proven fact the wider tailpipe is used to project to the entire world how much of a wanker they are.

metalhed00

11-05-2004, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by minorproblem
You do realise that wider tired dont give you more grip on a hard surface seeming friction is force per area

Althought wide tires do give you more grip on soft surfaces like sand.

And its a scientificly proven fact the wider tailpipe is used to project to the entire world how much of a wanker they are.

I don't agree with the wide tire stuff. Why would every professional race car have wide tires? Everything from F1 to dragsters all have wide tires (well, not the front of dragsters). Is this because of oil on the road or are the race tracks made up of a special mix of concrete so wide tires are not affected by friction? I have never heard of the tracks being anything special.

As for the wider tailpipe, I agree 110%. They should make them sound like Harleys or old Mustangs and Novas. But I guess that's more engine noise. Oh well.

Nodbugger

11-05-2004, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by metalhed00
All those 'Vote Bush' stickers must actually slow you down.
Nope, i wouldn't put stickers on my car.

Benwah

11-05-2004, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by Nodbugger
1996 thunderbird V8. I dropped a turber charger in it. Some new exhaust sytems. the thing just flys.

Nodbugger, I don't believe you, your lying about your car.

Nodbugger

11-05-2004, 12:41 PM

It is a bad picture. It is raining and it is dark So I couldn't get close to it.

Benwah

11-05-2004, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by Nodbugger
It is a bad picture. It is raining and it is dark So I couldn't get close to it.

thanks mate, I don't doubt you have one, but I doubt the validity of your claims of turbo charging it and adding exhaust 'systems' ;)

Drakin

11-05-2004, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by Nodbugger
It is a bad picture. It is raining and it is dark So I couldn't get close to it.

Nice ride, sweet pimp ass ghetto car!

Heres mine.

11-05-2004, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by minorproblem
You do realise that wider tired dont give you more grip on a hard surface seeming friction is force per area

Exactly, so the more area you have, the more friction... Without friction there'd be no grip, so the more tyre on the road the more grip.

There is very little friction on a surface such as ice for example, this is due to it being really smooth. We know what happens on ice...

Motorbikes have wider tyres (rear more so than front) as the cc's increase, this is due to the increase torque / horsepower requiring a higher level of grip.

metalhed00

11-05-2004, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by big al
Motorbikes have wider tyres (rear more so than front) as the cc's increase, this is due to the increase torque / horsepower requiring a higher level of grip.

Is this also the same reason race cars have the wide tires?

11-05-2004, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by metalhed00
Is this also the same reason race cars have the wide tires?

Absolutely, the wider the tyre the more grip. Increasing the width of a tyre will have negative effects on performance after a certain point, so it's all about trade offs. As with anything performance related.

Benwah

11-05-2004, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by Benwah
thanks mate, I don't doubt you have one, but I doubt the validity of your claims of turbo charging it and adding exhaust 'systems' ;)

NODBUGGER! I DEMAND SATISFACTION!

SamBo

11-05-2004, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Nodbugger
My car may not look cool but it can go 170mph.

1996 thunderbird V8. I dropped a turber charger in it. Some new exhaust sytems. the thing just flys.

I hate when people say "look at the stickers on that car! it must go fast!"

Firstly, what exactly is a turber charger, and how does dropping it into your car make it fly?

And you mean to say you have more than one exhaust system? amazing!

That Bloke

11-05-2004, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by Nodbugger
My car may not look cool but it can go 170mph.

1996 thunderbird V8. I dropped a turber charger in it. Some new exhaust sytems. t

Exhaust systems? so it's a dual exhaust system & a turbo charger on a v8?

interesting.

flow

11-05-2004, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by Nodbugger
My car may not look cool but it can go 170mph.

Can to 170 or have you ACTUALLY had it up to 170? That's a very straight road or airport you've had it at.

Post the pics. :)

flow

11-05-2004, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by flow_aus
Can go to 170 or have you ACTUALLY had it up to 170? That's a very straight road or airport you've had it at.

Post the pics. :)

flow

11-05-2004, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by minorproblem
You do realise that wider tired dont give you more grip on a hard surface seeming friction is force per area

Force per area is right. BUT most cars arn't tyred for a dry "track". They're tyred for a wet track. Put huge tyres on a car and you'll soon find out the defination of aquaplaning.

And its a scientifically proven fact the wider tailpipe is used to project to the entire world how much of a wanker they are.

I love it that when I pull up at the lights that some idiot in a very loud car. All exhaust. No engine. When will they learn that exhaust doesn't win. Well they do after I muscle the fat boy off the line...

flow

11-05-2004, 11:35 PM

Nodbugger

12-05-2004, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by SamBo
Firstly, what exactly is a turber charger, and how does dropping it into your car make it fly?

And you mean to say you have more than one exhaust system? amazing!

Well not literally dropping and not literally flying.

Well 2 different things on the exhaust. I put on some headers and a new catalytic converter.

And a turbo charger compresses air so more can fit into the cylinders. Which means more fuel can fit in and there can be a bigger explosion. It uses the cars exhaust as a power supply instead of a belt on the motor like super chargers. they are also a lot less expensive.

BlueBoy

12-05-2004, 11:22 AM

My Grandad caught turber in World War 2.

Nodbugger

12-05-2004, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by flow_aus
Can to 170 or have you ACTUALLY had it up to 170? That's a very straight road or airport you've had it at.

Post the pics. :)

http://www.chicagolandspeedway.com/cgi-bin/r.cgi/r66/weekend.html?EventID=1014

living 5 minutes away from a drag strip/oval track helps. Almost every weekend you can go and drive any vehicle you want.

Benwah

12-05-2004, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by Nodbugger
Well not literally dropping and not literally flying.

Well 2 different things on the exhaust. I put on some headers and a new catalytic converter.

And a turbo charger compresses air so more can fit into the cylinders. Which means more fuel can fit in and there can be a bigger explosion. It uses the cars exhaust as a power supply instead of a belt on the motor like super chargers. they are also a lot less expensive.

done some research it seems, I'm not convinced, how specifically did you change the compression ratio of your motor to accomdate the addition of a turbo charger, what boost are you running? and this time I want a response in 10 mins not 24 hours.

EDIT : I want pics you liar.

12-05-2004, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by BlueBoy
My Grandad caught turber in World War 2.

Dude that made me laugh, nice work. Ah it's the simple things in life.

12-05-2004, 01:22 PM

Now this is an exhaust pipe on a performance vehicle. Who needs more than that to make it look shit hot?

excalibur

12-05-2004, 02:34 PM

These are also exhaust pipes on a performance vehicle..... (It was the best shot I could find)

excalibur

12-05-2004, 02:41 PM

this is more exhaust on a performance vehicle (a Ferrari 250 GTO)

That Bloke

12-05-2004, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by Nodbugger

And a turbo charger compresses air so more can fit into the cylinders.

But what's a Turber charger?

DumHed

12-05-2004, 04:37 PM

well I know that a tuber charger is designed to compress potatos and other root vegetables.

Benwah

12-05-2004, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by That_Bloke
But what's a Turber charger?

What the word TURBO sounds like coming out of the mouth of an american hick with nothing better to do than brag about his modified car.... that doesn't exist.... what an insult to people who put time and effort into modding their cars..... perhaps he learnt how to mod cars when he was visiting every continent?

flow

12-05-2004, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Nodbugger
http://www.chicagolandspeedway.com/cgi-bin/r.cgi/r66/weekend.html?EventID=1014

living 5 minutes away from a drag strip/oval track helps. Almost every weekend you can go and drive any vehicle you want.

That's not a car going 170mph. That's a website about drags.

Doesn't exist does it?

12-05-2004, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by DumHed
well I know that a tuber charger is designed to compress potatos and other root vegetables.

Turning them into raw energy and allowing previously unheard of speeds!

DumHed

12-05-2004, 05:06 PM

with the right mods I reckon it'll make vodka too :)

Benwah

12-05-2004, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by DumHed
with the right mods I reckon it'll make vodka too :)

Add an intercooler with water injection, cold mixed drinks ;)

12-05-2004, 05:12 PM

We should hook up some tuber chargers, sounds like they may come in handy!

Benwah

12-05-2004, 05:14 PM

don't forget the blow off valve to make fizzy drinks for the gurls ;)

DumHed

12-05-2004, 05:41 PM

best plan ever!

Benwah

12-05-2004, 05:48 PM

Back on topic, now HERE is a Japanese car, Vigor AND Luxury!

That Bloke

21-05-2004, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by That_Bloke
Exhaust systems? so it's a dual exhaust system & a turbo charger on a v8?

interesting.

You still haven't cleared this up.

minorproblem

21-05-2004, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by metalhed00
I don't agree with the wide tire stuff. Why would every professional race car have wide tires? Everything from F1 to dragsters all have wide tires (well, not the front of dragsters). Is this because of oil on the road or are the race tracks made up of a special mix of concrete so wide tires are not affected by friction? I have never heard of the tracks being anything special.

As for the wider tailpipe, I agree 110%. They should make them sound like Harleys or old Mustangs and Novas. But I guess that's more engine noise. Oh well.

Err. I would like to point out that physics concepts show that the area makes no diffrence whatsoever because friction is force per unit so making them wider just spreads the force out over a larger area but the total friction is the same. They have wider tires because thinner ones melt. Because the friction is the same but over a smaller area. So the smaller area has a higher rate of heat transfer generated as the tires slip. But making them wider does not increase there coefficent of static Or kinetic friction. However it does distribute the heat out over a larger surface area.

The reason dragsters have mega wide tires is because as they spin they start melting almost straight away and making them wider means they melt less and so the more they melt the smaller the value of kinetic friction so the friction is reduced. But normal unmelted tires are exactly the same friction between the road as super fat ones. As long as the same amount of weight is pushing down on them.

excalibur

21-05-2004, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by That_Bloke
Exhaust systems? so it's a dual exhaust system & a turbo charger on a v8?

interesting.

V8's with turbos aren't that common, but there are quite a few floating around, especially on the smaller ones wich the thunderbird is, (a 289 if my memory serves)

Aston Martin did a factory turbo V8, so did Ferarri. they put it in this:

That Bloke

21-05-2004, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by excalibur
V8's with turbos aren't that common, but there are quite a few floating around, especially on the smaller ones wich the thunderbird is, (a 289 if my memory serves)

Aston Martin did a factory turbo V8, so did Ferarri. they put it in this:

I know that there are turbo V8s, That's why I want the information about his exhaust system to see if he is telling the truth.

There are particulars about turbo charging a V engine or a Boxer(horizontally opposed) engine & I'm trying to see if he has those particulars straight.

Edit: The first ever turbocharged production car was a Buick 215cid(3.5litre) V8, the second ever being the Chev Corvair with a horizontally opposed 6.

excalibur

21-05-2004, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by That_Bloke
I know that there are turbo V8s, That's why I want the information about his exhaust system to see if he is telling the truth.

There are particulars about turbo charging a V engine or a Boxer(horizontally opposed) engine & I'm trying to see if he has those particulars straight.

I'll pay that.

DOnt get me wrong, I'm not defending nodbugger, not by any means, I just know of too many people that believe that the only cars that can be turbocharged are 4's and 6's.

Fitty

23-05-2004, 01:53 AM

Seeing as nodbugger hasn't cleared this whole thing up yet, i don't think he will. Being an Australian, and working in kilometres (170mph = 272kmph), that is fucking fast. I don't know anyone who has taken a car that fast, and i would think twice about taking one that fast myself.

However, there are quite a few turbo charged V8s around(just like nodbugger's) , but blowers (superchargers) are more often used in V8s simply because of the rev range... getting a heavy V8 to 272 clicks with a turbo? I don't know about that.