X-Men 3

[Canalien]

Collosus: Check... sweet.

Nightcrawler: Check... excellent.

Wolverine: Check... kickass

Storm: nope... WooHoo!

Bryan Singer: nope... WHAT THE FUCK!!!?

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0376994/)

[SOC]

Chill, man - word on the street (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=whedon+x-men+3&btnG=Google+Search&meta=) is that GOD himself - Joss Whedon - is gonna get the gig. Singer's busy reviving Supes. It's all good. :)

[Grizzlee]

And the wench Halle Berry maybe be back if she gets paid more and has a bigger part....The best part I can think of for her is to be killed in some production "accident".

It looks like the Joss Whedon is very much a rumor..he hasn't been approached by any X3 Producers as yet. (fingers crossed).
Loving his take oon X-men comic.

[kré]

xmen 3 needs more john woo

[BlueBoy]

Two things I'm hoping for:

- More Beast
- Sentinels

[BlueBoy]

xmen 3 needs more john woo
Like Batman needs more Schumacher.

[Lurgen]

IMDB has Whedon down under "writing credits", which is a GOOD THING. My only concern would be anything delaying Serenity is teh bad.

[tikdoph]

Two things I'm hoping for:

- More Beast
- Sentinels
Seconded.

[SOC]

IMDB has Whedon down under "writing credits", which is a GOOD THING. My only concern would be anything delaying Serenity is teh bad.

Fear not - Serenity is now in post producton.

[Moga2]

Where is David Hayter (sp) is what i wanna know, he did a good job of the second one and plus he's Solid Snake :)

[urban_gorilla]

fuckn nice choice of x-men (esp. no more halle berry) :)
hope joss gets the go for writing, i think it could turn out very well.

[Sutter]

Two things I'm hoping for:

- More Beast
- Sentinels

With you on the sentinels.
I wants:
-Omega Red
-JUGGERNAUGHT

Just a one-minute scene with one of these dudes kicking the fuck out of stuff, and I'll buy the DVD. :p

[LeoFlare]

- Sentinels
- Juggernaught
- Gambit
More on Wolverine's past (Weapon X)

[tikdoph]

As much as I too would love to see Juggernaught go apeshit, he isn't a mutant. He got his powers from the Gem of Cyttorak.

Gambit? *puke*

Wolverine's past is probably going to be covered in the Wolverine movie they have planned.

[Sutter]

tikdph's true powers are revealed: comic book nerd. :D

[BlueBoy]

It wasn't obvious already? ;)

[kleph]

actually, thats just pretty good info. nerdism goes to the point of knowing the real name of the first new x-man who died or all of the shipmates of cyclop's father. don't put the mark of cain on a man until he deserves it.

[BlueBoy]

Jonathan Proudstar?

No idea about the Corsair crew though. :)

[Canalien]

Surely the third one will involve Phoenix somehow... what with the giant glowing birdlike shape under the water at the end of the second one...
We definitely need to see Beast, and they need a new-ish kinda bad guy...
I don't know how they'd be able to pull it off but I'm dying to see Apocalypse on screen. Or Omega Red... wasn't his name on Stryker's screen with Gambit's in the 2nd one?
Hoping we don't find out that Mystique is Nightcrawler's mom like in the comic though... don't think it'd work in the movie.

[tikdoph]

actually, thats just pretty good info. nerdism goes to the point of knowing the real name of the first new x-man who died or all of the shipmates of cyclop's father. don't put the mark of cain on a man until he deserves it.
Yeah, it's not like having a collection of thousands of comics spanning over almost 20 years accounts for anything, huh.

Oh, and I'm sure Cain Marko wouldn't begrudge me the mark of Cain anyways. ;)

[locust]

Whedon also did (uncredited) script work on the first X-Men.. apparantly he wasn't too happy with the result in a few ways (Berry's delivery of "what happens to a frog when it's hit by lightning?".. ugh). And he's been known to rant about his experience with Alien: Resurrection.

I'm convinced Serenity'll be okay because he's got a large degree of control over it, but when Joss works on a film controlled by other people, he never seems to be happy with the result. Pity.

[Necron]

Apocalypse, Beast and Sentinals is what I would like to see.

[Canalien]

Aww yeah brother. Testify. As long as Beast isn't CG... some lucky bastard is gonna have to go through about 15 hours of makeup until I'm satisfied.

[Foxfire]

Well they didn't cg'ify up mystique, they spent like eight hours or some stupendous amount putting all the blue on that luscious lady. So there's a good chance that they'll do the same with beast, it's well worth the time.

Personally I'm just hanging out for Phoenix... (has a bit of thing for phoenixi :p) I'd also like to see Dazzler and to see Jubilee actually do something in the movie rather than just the deleted scenes.

The scene they cut with Jubilee from the museum in X-Men 2 showed her powers and it looked pretty cool.

[Cpt Jellybean]

The series has got to be infintely better now that hopefully Halle Berry isn't in it!!! God she is painful!!!!

[abelgold]

Chill, man - word on the street (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=whedon+x-men+3&btnG=Google+Search&meta=) is that GOD himself - Joss Whedon - is gonna get the gig. Singer's busy reviving Supes. It's all good. :)

Word on the street is that Supes is getting into preproduction in Sydney Fox Studios (for real this time) and XMen 3 could the next big Aus production after. Of course, Ghost Rider is gearing up nowish in Melbourne. We're kinda the comic book adaptation capital! Hope this means lots and lots of pyrotechnics! :p

[darns]

What's an X-Men movie without Psylocke? or any of those 32,905 skimpy clothed female characters!

Although they probably will look weird in the comic book costumes, I'd prefer these over the dark-blue ones in the movies any day. X-men don't need cool costumes to make them look cool. They have mutant powers.

[Bifrost]

I second the call for Psylocke. Any actress who could pull off the sexiest X-Man ever is worth the outlay for the DVD alone (much as the opening scene from X2 was worth the price of admission alone).

And I want some super-strong, flying Rogue action. We've had the backstory and the angst - fine - now it's time for some serious arse kicking and for Miss Marvel to be put in a coma...OK, I'll accept Rogue's victim being someone other than Miss Marvel, she has a shit name, but I WANT TOUGH, FLYING ROGUE DAMMIT.

In case you hadn't noticed, despite my admission that Psylocke was one of those cartoon charaters you find yourself strangely attracted to, Rogue is by far my favourite X-Man. But she needs to be an arse-kicker.

As far as villains go - I second Apocalypse. Then again, I don't think even the X-Men could survive a tag-team of Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix.

Comic Credentials: I never collected X-Men until the Age of Apocalypse. My knowledge of the X-Men comes courtesy of Grizzlee, X-Men collector and Excalibur nutter. Among my fairly extensive collection (which would probably fit in one of Tikdoph's smaller archive wings) contains a huge amount of Image and Wildstorm stuff, alongside Poison Elves and SCUD the Disposable Assassin...It also bears a testament to my very strong early comic addiction to Cloak and Dagger...

Fuckit - we need THIS (http://forums.zgeek.com/showthread.php?p=383952)

[BlueBoy]

About time this thread got necro'd.
Beast, Angel, Wolverine and Storm (http://www.usatoday.com/life/gallery/2005/x3/flash.htm)

[d3kst3r]

xmen 3 needs more john woo

Fuckoff, john woo made Mission Impossible 2 and Paycheck, 2 of the lamest movies I ever saw.

[macgyver]

ugh, that new beast looks terrible.

agreed?

i am going to avoid getting into this xmen conversation, too many years of reading to hinder my opinion, although I do keep telling myself the collection will be worth something one day :)

[Canalien]

I think he looks ok... depends how big they make him. He kind of looks like a cross between old beast and new beast, and the hair is kind of going in a different direction, he's still kind of feline looking but it's more lion than lynx

[wolfpac181]

hmm. Let's take a look at the cast:

Patrick Stewart .... Professor Charles Xavier
Hugh Jackman .... Logan/Wolverine
Ian McKellen .... Eric Lensherr/Magneto
Halle Berry .... Ororo Munroe/Storm
Famke Janssen .... Jean Grey/Phoenix
James Marsden .... Scott Summers/Cyclops
Rebecca Romijn .... Mystique
Kelsey Grammer .... Hank McCoy/Beast <<<<<<<WTF???????
Vinnie Jones .... Cain Marko/Juggernaut
Aaron Stanford .... John Allerdyce/Pyro
Daniel Cudmore .... Peter Rasputin/Colossus
Shawn Ashmore .... Bobby Drake/Iceman
Olivia Williams .... Dr. Moira MacTaggart
Ellen Page .... Kitty Pryde/Shadowcat
Shohreh Aghdashloo .... Dr. Kavita Rao


What the fuck is with Fraiser doing in this film? Who the shit?????? I'm befuddled. Why don't they just put Pee-Wee Herman in the movie for shits and giggles now....

And they fuckin forgot Steve Buscemi.

[AntZ]

Firstly, macguyver your a retard - Kelsey looks sweet as the Beast, Archangel's wings are cool and about the only thing wrong with the movie is Storm - I could have done without seeing her back again (hate Halle Berry with a passion).

wolfpac, you sir fall into the macguyver basket with that comment about Kelsey - if you actually KNEW anything about the comics (hell even the cartoons) you would KNOW that Kelsey's voice alone is the essence of Hank and the Beast.

[macgyver]

Firstly, macguyver your a retard - Kelsey looks sweet as the Beast, Archangel's wings are cool and about the only thing wrong with the movie is Storm - I could have done without seeing her back again (hate Halle Berry with a passion).


Well firstly may I apologise to you for having an opinion on the subject, sorry if I upset you. I have no problem with Kelsey playing beast and I think his casting is an excellent choice - as long as they can pull off the build the beast should have - as in why is Wolverine 6ft tall with no hunch and arms like tree trunks? (But dont let me upset you by casting aspersions about Hugh Jackman though)
and secondly I never mentioned ANYTHING about Angel, I think his wings and casting looks excellent, I just decided not to get into putting out opinnions on every cast member. :fu:

[AntZ]

Sorry to disappoint you macguyver, but could you REALLY see Danny DeVito pulling off Wolverine? Because that is how tall you would have to be to qualify for Wolvie's role and the amount of talented actors that size and build is extremely small. And exactly WHICH version of Wolvie were you talking about - cartoon wolvie, AoA wolvie, samurai wolvie, adamantium free wolvie - there are so many different ways Wolverine has gone over the years that pinning down one single way for which he should have been is virtually impossible.

[FatherShark]

teaser trailer now on-line:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/x3/

[Bifrost]

Dear Kealsey Grammar as Beast compainants,

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON!?!

The look of Beast, the voice of Beast, the whole character of Beast was bloody MADE for Kelsey Grammar.

Who would you rather? Chuck Norris? David Hasselhoff? He needs to be a big, bookish, thinking guy.

/rant.

Now, as to Storm - worst character ever. One of the worst names ever too. I mean have you ever tried to sya "Ororo Monroe" 6 times fast?

[Enos]

teaser trailer now on-line:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/x3/

Can anyone get that to work? Keep getting broken mov images and dodgey "atom" msgs...

[108]

I'm with macgyver. That pic of Beast looks bad, but I think it's mostly the pose they've got him in. It's like a half-assed rawr. He probably looks a lot better with his mouth closed and while not pawing at the camera like a sissy.

[kleph]

i don't see the big deal about the beast pic here. the nightcrawler and mystique they came up with were both RADICALLY different from the book but stayed (pretty much) true to the core of characters and worked in the context of the film. they get a pass as far as i am concerned on this issue.

(and, given berry's comments, sounds like the mid-80s punk-style storm may be in the offing. can't see how the hell this horrible actress is gonna pull that off but, i digress)

that said, my biggest concern in brett ratner. i mean, Rush Hour I & II, for fuck sake. the winds portend disaster.

[Canalien]

where we those punk storm related comments? i'm interested to read that...
i'm still waiting to see what juggernaut looks like. he'd better be like 9 feet tall and weigh a tonne, that's one costume you really can't fuck with.

i had trouble with the trailer but it seems to work now

EDIT: i saw the juggernaut costume. they fucked with it. it looks horrible. god damn them.

[Canalien]

in the forest scene.. standing on the far left of magneto... is that scarlet witch?


Nevermind.... it's Jean Grey/Phoenix

[AntZ]

Higher res Angel
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6681/angelspread1nc.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6681/angelspread1nc.jpg)

Higher res Beast
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1421/beastreach12zi.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1421/beastreach12zi.jpg)

I must say, that the first picture in particular makes an awesome wallpaper.

[kleph]

in that usa today picture gallery in the comments next to berry's photo she says storm will have "a new haircut."

[AntZ]

Storm has short hair now.

http://img120.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_684_x_men_3_beast.jpg (http://img120.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=684_x_men_3_beast.jpg)http://img40.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_e01_x_men_3_angel.jpg (http://img40.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=e01_x_men_3_angel.jpg)http://img105.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_50e_x_men_3_angel_2.jpg (http://img105.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=50e_x_men_3_angel_2.jpg)http://img7.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_637_x_men_3_storm.jpg (http://img7.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=637_x_men_3_storm.jpg)
http://img107.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_c3c_x_men_3_wolverine.jpg (http://img107.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=c3c_x_men_3_wolverine.jpg)

And the link to download the teaser is below.
http://movies.apple.com/movies/fox/x-men_3/x-men_3-pre_teaser_h640w.mov

[Canalien]

she's had a new haircut in every film... we're not getting the punk mohawk storm in this one thank christ

[BlueBoy]

She does look like Storm from Ultimate X-Men though.

[FatherShark]

in that case, that aligns well with the rumoured Storm/Wolverine romance, which almost got off the ground in Ultimate X-Men.

[macgyver]

Higher res Beast
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1421/beastreach12zi.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1421/beastreach12zi.jpg)


hahaha - teen wolf meets a can of blue paint! michael j fox you bad ass!

[H34D STR0NG]

all i can say is bring back nightcrawler!!!!

[Canalien]

he won't be back, alan cumming bitched too much about the makeup

[Haggisboy]

hmm. Let's take a look at the cast:

Patrick Stewart .... Professor Charles Xavier
Hugh Jackman .... Logan/Wolverine
Ian McKellen .... Eric Lensherr/Magneto
Halle Berry .... Ororo Munroe/Storm
Famke Janssen .... Jean Grey/Phoenix
James Marsden .... Scott Summers/Cyclops
Rebecca Romijn .... Mystique
Kelsey Grammer .... Hank McCoy/Beast <<<<<<<WTF???????
Vinnie Jones .... Cain Marko/Juggernaut
Aaron Stanford .... John Allerdyce/Pyro
Daniel Cudmore .... Peter Rasputin/Colossus
Shawn Ashmore .... Bobby Drake/Iceman
Olivia Williams .... Dr. Moira MacTaggart
Ellen Page .... Kitty Pryde/Shadowcat
Shohreh Aghdashloo .... Dr. Kavita Rao


What the fuck is with Fraiser doing in this film? Who the shit?????? I'm befuddled. Why don't they just put Pee-Wee Herman in the movie for shits and giggles now....

And they fuckin forgot Steve Buscemi.

There's nothing here I could add to make this a more perfect post. My sentiments exactly.

[Canalien]

just because the guy played the character for 20 years doesn't mean it's the only thing he can do. yeah he's a character actor, but what he plays well are INTELLECTUAL characters (frasier, sideshow bob), i think you people are blinded by beast's appearance; he's supposed to be a highly intelligent, articulate and classy dude, not some big strong brute. his appearance and his behaviour are meant as a deliberate contradiction to each other, reinforcing the whole theme of alienation and prejudice present in the xmen stories. need I remind you what happened last time they got an action star to play a supposedly highly intelligent character? Schwarzenegger and Mr. Freeze.

Kelsey Grammer is an inspired casting choice.

[AntZ]

just because the guy played the character for 20 years doesn't mean it's the only thing he can do. yeah he's a character actor, but what he plays well are INTELLECTUAL characters (frasier, sideshow bob), i think you people are blinded by beast's appearance; he's supposed to be a highly intelligent, articulate and classy dude, not some big strong brute. his appearance and his behaviour are meant as a deliberate contradiction to each other, reinforcing the whole theme of alienation and prejudice present in the xmen stories. need I remind you what happened last time they got an action star to play a supposedly highly intelligent character? Schwarzenegger and Mr. Freeze.

Kelsey Grammer is an inspired casting choice.

Quoted for truthery

[Up_All_Night]

I found the teaser trailer, while it looks like it could be a cool film from the shots in it, it was quite poorly put together.

Imagine the trailer with kick arse music over it and not the constant fades to black

[Canalien]

yeah and a better juggernaut costume :(

[BlueBoy]

Beast looks a lot better in the trailer than the promotional shot.
I found that with every character in the previous movie though, so no surprise there.

Yes, the Juggernaut costume is shit. He looks more like "Halfback-Man".
I'm not sure what his angle will be.

[Canalien]

He looks like he's straight out of a He-Man cartoon. Fuckin' Man-At-Arms or something. Who designs this shit?

[Thyrd]

In the promotional shot beast would be looking a lot better with fangs and a protruding lower jaw. Kelsey Grammer is an excellent choice as the actor though.

[Fuzzy Dice]

that said, my biggest concern in brett ratner. i mean, Rush Hour I & II, for fuck sake. the winds portend disaster.


ditto. :(

Well, they did say they were going for a completely different feel.

[AntZ]

Here are some character pics I just found.

By the way Colossus looks BAD ASS!!!!!

http://img14.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_fdb_x3char_new_1.jpg (http://img14.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=fdb_x3char_new_1.jpg) http://img22.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_68f_x3char_new_3.jpg (http://img22.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=68f_x3char_new_3.jpg) http://img20.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_4fe_xmencharacter1_1.jpg (http://img20.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=4fe_xmencharacter1_1.jpg) http://img7.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_b1f_xmencharacter2_1.jpg (http://img7.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=b1f_xmencharacter2_1.jpg)
http://img108.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_d66_xmencharacter3_1.jpg (http://img108.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=d66_xmencharacter3_1.jpg) http://img19.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_bef_xmencharacter4_1.jpg (http://img19.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=bef_xmencharacter4_1.jpg)

[AntZ]

http://img15.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_0c1_xmencharacter5_1.jpg (http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=0c1_xmencharacter5_1.jpg)
http://img19.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_501_xmencharacter6_1.jpg (http://img19.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=501_xmencharacter6_1.jpg) http://img41.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_32c_xmencharacter7_1.jpg (http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=32c_xmencharacter7_1.jpg) http://img12.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_66f_xmencharacter9_1.jpg (http://img12.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=66f_xmencharacter9_1.jpg) http://img127.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_82f_xmencharacter10_1.jpg (http://img127.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=82f_xmencharacter10_1.jpg) http://img14.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_51d_xmencharacter12_1.jpg (http://img14.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=51d_xmencharacter12_1.jpg) http://img41.imagevenue.com/loc24/th_bbd_xmencharacter16_1.jpg (http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=bbd_xmencharacter16_1.jpg)

[Canalien]

He's pretty mean looking... but the metal skin needs more texture. It kinda looks like some cheap Bryce3D metal.

I couldn't figure out who the girl with the tatt on her face was so I checked IMDb... it's Callisto. Which means Morlocks: Artie + Leech are also in the cast. That also connects them it Generation X, and sure enough M and Emma Frost are characters too. I hav a feeling it won't be sexy Hellfire Club White Queen Emma Frost though... but here's hoping.

Then I thought... that tatt on Callisto kind of looks like an Omega symbol... and there's definitely one on her chest... and then I scrolled down to see the best news yet...

OMEGA RED IS IN IT!

[BlueBoy]

Callisto's been added without much fanfare.

[Sutter]

I wants:
-Omega Red
-JUGGERNAUGHT

Just a one-minute scene with one of these dudes kicking the fuck out of stuff, and I'll buy the DVD. :p

Whoo hoo!

[AntZ]

you got Jugg head, but he looks nowhere near as cool as he could have. Don't think Omega Red is in it though, which is kinda a shame since everyone loves that commie pinko bastard.

[Bifrost]

OMEGA RED IS IN IT!NOW I have wood.

Omega Red rocks. although I am curious to see how they deal with the whole "it's no longer cool to have Communist Russian viallains" thing. In typical fashion, he'll be a "renegade" former communist weapon or something...

Anyway, the fact that Callisto is in there is cool because Callisto is a good character - but - I fear that she will be in there just so that she can have a knife fight with Storm and lose. Which is shit because Storm sucks arse almost as much as Halle Berry.

[Canalien]

haha, the guy who is playing omega red was Flesh Gordon, but apparently he's a trained kickboxer or something, BRING ON THE CARBONADIUM COILS AND DEATHFACTOR!!!!

[FatherShark]

"X3 : For a few dollars more" featuring:

Mystake

Colossal Homosexual Icon

Gayngel

Fleeced

Callusto

IciclePop

Jean Phwoar

Soccer Thuggeranut

Magneato

St Francis Xavier College

Level 5 Rogue

Macquarie Fields Resident

[BlueBoy]

what

[AntZ]

Just ignore it - FatherShark is just trying to be clevar after his successful debut on the Trailer Park Page.

[macgyver]

I only just realised that was Vinnie Jones playing juggernaut. He looks like he has bulked up a bit, and the mug shot of beast there certainly looks better than the previous photo too.

[Z-Man]

With you on the sentinels.
I wants:
-Omega Red
-JUGGERNAUGHT

Just a one-minute scene with one of these dudes kicking the fuck out of stuff, and I'll buy the DVD. :p

Two things I'm hoping for:

- More Beast
- Sentinels

Damn straight. I want Sentinels

I agree with Antz and the others that Kelsey Grammer should work out well

And might I add that Pheonix...is lookin hot

[FatherShark]

http://tinypic.com/jzblp5.jpg

[Canalien]

THAT is awesome.

[s3raph]

Yes, yes it is.

[FatherShark]

Yes, yes it is.

You really think so? Then why did you give me negative rep you tool? What's your fucking problem?

Thread Date Posted By Comment
X-Men 3 17-01-2006 04:38 AM s3raph You're not funny, so stop trying.

[Symon_magus]

He probably neg-repped you for that stupid name thing you did earlier. The mutant manifesto with Heston was probably what he was most recently complimenting you on. I suppose that it has partially redeemed you.

[FatherShark]

thanks for the heads up Dr Phil.........*s*

Seriously, who neg reps for something silly like that?

Personal Attacks or Bigotry on the forum I can understand, but otherwise? Sheesh.

[Space Cowboy]

Seriously, who neg reps for something silly like that?

Personal Attacks or Bigotry on the forum I can understand, but otherwise? Sheesh.

I thought that was a personal attack.....?

[s3raph]

thanks for the heads up Dr Phil.........*s*

Seriously, who neg reps for something silly like that?

Personal Attacks or Bigotry on the forum I can understand, but otherwise? Sheesh.
Well you see the name thing was totally retarded. It was retarded and massively unfunny. Not even lame in a funny entertaining way. Just completely lame. And thus neg rep for it. Then the other thing partially redeemed you.

[AntZ]

Six wallpapers I cropped from the X3 pics.
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/416/kitty7vq.th.jpg (http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kitty7vq.jpg) http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7388/phoenix9ce.th.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=phoenix9ce.jpg) http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/64/rogue7yo.th.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rogue7yo.jpg)

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/554/mystique8mq.th.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mystique8mq.jpg) http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5863/callisto7oi.th.jpg (http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=callisto7oi.jpg) http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9743/storm9ag.th.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=storm9ag.jpg)

Originals found here. (http://66.232.100.26/~dontlink/hires/xmen3/)

[Canalien]

Psylocke has been added. She's a villain. Fanboys rejoice.

Also it turns out Gambit was going to be in it (he was in the 2nd actually, with a suntman playing him but ended up on the cutting room floor), but he was cut as there were too many new characters and his role was minor... and the actor they wanted to play him was busy with his own VERY successful tv show... the good news is that if they make a 4th, he'll probably be in it. Who do you ask?
LOST's Josh Holloway. Perfect, PERFECT casting.

[Bifrost]

Indeed. Holloway would be pretty firking good. Perhaps a little buff for how Remy was supposed to be, but hey - look at the height of Wolverine in the movies and he still rocks hard.

Mei Melançon (right...I think) looks like she is going to be pretty damned hot, but then no human could really be as hot as Psylocke...

http://forum.zgeek.com/gallery/files/1/9/8/x3Chicks.jpg

[BlueBoy]

The chick on the left is supposed to be Stacey X for those counting.

[Canalien]

stacey x-tremely butt ugly... interesting for someone whose power is excreting pheromones. callisto just makes me want to punch her. looks like they're going for an ultra cliched 'butch-tough-chick' thing here... ugh. it's a wonder they didn't jsut get michelle rodriguez. boo.

[BlueBoy]

stacey x-tremely butt ugly... interesting for someone whose power is excreting pheromones. callisto just makes me want to punch her. looks like they're going for an ultra cliched 'butch-tough-chick' thing here... ugh. it's a wonder they didn't jsut get michelle rodriguez. boo.
I should point out that in the comics Stacey X is some sort of scaly, yellow chick. She uses the pheromones to prostitute herself.
Of course all this was pre-Decimation.

[Canalien]

yeah and callisto only had one eye and psylocke was way the hell hotter than that

[108]

Latino? Check.
Black chick? Check.
Asian? Check.

Alright fellas, are we missing anything or are we good to go?

(And Sawyer would be an awesome Gambit)

[Canalien]

Gambit definitely needs to be made a bad guy if they want him to stand out... otherwise he'll just be playing second fiddle to wolverine as a good anti-hero. Making him a bad guy would definitely be a better way to tackle the Rogue/Gambit relationship also.

[108]

Gambit definitely needs to be made a bad guy if they want him to stand out... otherwise he'll just be playing second fiddle to wolverine as a good anti-hero. Making him a bad guy would definitely be a better way to tackle the Rogue/Gambit relationship also.
Yeah, he's got a lot to live up to, what with all the rampart Gambit fanboyism.

WHat they need to do is have him teamup with the group for a shifty alliance then at the end of the movie everyone (sans gambit) walks back into the mansion to see that all the furniture has been cleared out. Wolverine punches the wall, chicks scream, and the Professor yells "Gambiiiiiiiiiiiit!". Cut to a scene with Gambit running along the road with a giant brown sack full of loot and fade out to end credits with the Benny Hill theme. Hot damn, they ought to hire me to write that shit.

[BlueBoy]

yeah and callisto only had one eye and psylocke was way the hell hotter than that
Callisto has tentacle arms as well.

[Canalien]

Callisto has tentacle arms as well.

that was a crap development

[BlueBoy]

that was a crap development
Agreed.
I'm almost certain it was a Claremont thing as well. Fucking hack.

[Bifrost]

Agreed.
I'm almost certain it was a Claremont thing as well. Fucking hack.Amen.

Now I don't know if you're trolling, but I've personally never found the fascination with Claremont's writing that others have. He's like the ultimate in multiple buried subplots which never come to fruition.

I think he may be almost singularly responsible for Marvel having to institute Decimantion and clear out the mutants...

[BlueBoy]

Amen.

Now I don't know if you're trolling, but I've personally never found the fascination with Claremont's writing that others have. He's like the ultimate in multiple buried subplots which never come to fruition.

I think he may be almost singularly responsible for Marvel having to institute Decimantion and clear out the mutants...
No, I do actually think he's a hack. ;)
You read everything he's done in the last two years and every goddamn issue will have Jean Grey or a variant of her. I picked up the first issue of New Excalibur thinking it would be different and guess what? Right there in the very first issue they fight the original X-Men from an alternate 'evil' dimension, complete with Jean Grey.
Fuck you, Chris Claremont. It's time to retire.

[AntZ]

Claremont was good for a while, but to be honest apart from his continuation of the Willow movie he did with George Lucas (was a book trilogy) I have liked precious little of the stuff he has done even in the last 6 years.

[Up_All_Night]

The trailer for this is now up. It does look good.. however needs more wovlerine kicking ass in it...

quicktime (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/tls/trailer/)

[kleph]

in defense of chris claremont, his mid 80s work on the title is some of the best marvel has ever printed and that includes the halycon days of lee and kirby. he created a scope to the title that set it apart and then showed a knack for twisting it all backward on itself when you least expected. what really gave it power was how he always kept close watch on the personalities of each character throughout. this is one reason wolverine has become such a durable force, the foundation to his character is rock solid due to to clairmont's efforts more than anyone.

that said, the irksome picadillos had become kind of grating by the end of his run on the title and while i havent followed his writing since, i can imagine they have not improved. (watching the incredible john byrne go over this particular artistic precipice was a sad experience for me and i prefer not to watch it happen again)

is he a hack now? very possible. but its a bit unfair to label him a hack overall when you take into account the brilliance of some of the things he did in the past.

[FatherShark]

worst X-Men writers EVA - Scott Lobdell, Joe Kelly, Chuck Austen, and Steven Seagal

Best EVA : Grant Morrison, Joss Whedon, and soon to be Ed Brubaker.

Nuff Said.

[kleph]

don't see how you can even compare those guys to lee/kirby and claremont/byrne. so much of what these guys did has become canon it can be difficult to understand why it was so amazing and revolutionary when it first came out.

case in point. i was there when the whole hellfire club thing ran. i can count on my hand the number of times i awaiting the next issue of a title with as much anticipation. and this was for almost a year. because every time you thought it was about done it took another mind-blowing turn and the stakes got raised even higher.

the random attacks. the assaults on the field teams. the capture of jean grey (and then the bad-girl lingerie uniform). the infiltration of the club. wolverine getting his ass kicked. everyone caught.

and then that great final page of wolverine rising from the sewer saying "now it's my turn." baby. fucking awesome. the next few issues paid off in spades. ass kickings, mutant mayhem. everything you expect from a grand finale.

then finally they all escaped and were heading home and BOOOM! dark phoenix.

holyfuckamoly. words cannot describe how amazed, aghast, astonished... it was one of the few times i read a title and said this... this is why i love this medium.

but it's hard to see that today because you can read it all in one sitting and they later went back and said jean grey wasn't dead and the whole phoenix idea has become iconic in the book and emma frost is a good guy and so on and so on and so on. and now you look at the sins of the book since then and you blame the originators. but look at it in the proper perspective and try and see what these guys did do and you will be amazed.

[Canalien]

nice call kleph. well put.

a bit before my time but i do recall going to garage sales as a kid looking for comics and LOVING the old stuff way more than the stuff that was new at the time... this is early nineties, buying stuff from the early 80's, late seventies.

anyone remember Mr. Jyp?

[anothe]

kleph + rep for comic looovee

same to canalien!

i got into kirby and stan lee comics first through my dad. great reading!

[kleph]

try this. picture yourself back in the 1960s when comic books superheros have come out of their silver age and the archtype is the superman defeats some similar super type with a last page plot twist and tidy happy ending. (not that i am dissing this formula, in itself it was a product of its times and an excellent story telling tool as well. they didn't call them the "golden" and "silver" ages of comics fer nothing)

then you and a bunch of other hotshots decide to try something different. to find a way to make it more real. your first step is to take the idea of the supergroup and turn it on its head by looking at the internal conflicts rather than the external ones. fights between the individual members are as important as the ones versus the super baddies. and thus the fantastic four becomes a hit.

now how about making a superhero just like most of the readers? a kinda confused teenager whose life simply cant seem to run right in the first place and now he has to deal with superhero headaches as well. so all those kids that wish they had super powers see how it may actually play out in real life. greetings spiderman.

so what next? how about creating the natural superhero. instead of having the weird origin have them simply born with their powers? now that is pretty revolutionary in itself but then superimpose the civil conflict in the society at the time over that and you have something even more sublime. a book that puts a knotty social issue in the terms the group most isolated from it can understand. and then you make it a kick ass super hero group too boot.

seen that way you can start to see just how awesome what lee/kirby/ditko and the other folks at the marvel bullpen actually acomplished back in the early 1960s. and it doesn't simply stop with comic books when you look at how much this medium has gone onto influcence more prevelant mass media such as television, cinema and the internet.

so while morrison and other recent artists have done some amazing stuff of late it seems a bit premature to call them "the best ever" particularly without putting them and their achievements in the proper perspective of other artists that have worked on the title.

[108]

The trailer for this is now up. It does look good.. however needs more wovlerine kicking ass in it...

quicktime (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/tls/trailer/)
waitaminute... were those boobies i saw in that trailer?

[kleph]

one last point to bring this back on topic. to get a guage of how dynamic the achievements of lee/kirby and claremont/byrne look at how durable the characters and situations they created have proven to be. moreover look at how they have been able to retain their core aspects despite the incredible changes of the times since these teams worked on the titles.

the arch-supervillan embodied by magneto proved a keen foil to the group in the 60s when the ambiguities of the cold war and the specter of a single powerful foe was clearly on the minds of the readership.

in the 80s the paranoia of the cold war had intensified but the questions of our own power had become as predominant as well. the anxiety of corporat malfeasance and the divisions in our own society were also becoming more evident than ever. look at the hellfire club/dark phoenix saga to see how it played out on the pages.

now watch the movies and see how these same characters with the same motivations and core values have been faced with the onset of the age of the terrorist, the shrinking of the so-called global-village and the not-so-implausable introduction of a pseudo-facist state in the name of "security."

and it works.

[Canalien]

from reading some interviews and looking at the trailer, it seems that they've given Storm the power to fly by spinning around really fast... sticking herself into a mini tornado or something. this is bordering on the abuse of storm's power that is/was so rampant in the comics. her power is to control the weather, nothing else. i remember reading a comic where Shinbo Shaw was going to phase through her chest and rip out her heart, but she generated an electromagnetic ball from her fingertips around them that somehow would kill him too if she died... what the hell is wrong with that picture? she's not fucking electro, she can't do shit like that. if she wants to fly she should make some big wind gust blow her along, not spin around in a little mini tornado... it looks shit, it's not believable (yeah i know it's x-men and lot a lot is, but that just irks me) and how the hell would you even stay conscious?
i'm getting into nitpicking fanboy territory here, but Storm just shouldnt be able to do crap like that. it's not what her power is.

[108]

waitaminute... were those boobies i saw in that trailer?Oh, and they weren't boobs. It was a little topless kid on a table. I feel so dirty :(

[kleph]

storm could fly in the 80s using the updraft phenomena. i recall there was a big debate when she went punk since it meant she lost the flappy cape thing that was, ostensibly, to help her control her flight since it was caused by wind manipulations.

which is kinda very ludicrous to be arguing in the first place but the point is this type of flight has been a long-standing aspect of the character.

[AntZ]

New kinda blurry X-Men 3 footage here. (http://www.worldofkj.com/Pictures/showest/news1/xmenfootage-new.swf) Forgive the blurryness, for it is new stuff.

[Canalien]

storm could fly in the 80s using the updraft phenomena. i recall there was a big debate when she went punk since it meant she lost the flappy cape thing that was, ostensibly, to help her control her flight since it was caused by wind manipulations.

which is kinda very ludicrous to be arguing in the first place but the point is this type of flight has been a long-standing aspect of the character.

Well I still have a problem with her shooting electricity from her fingers!

[kleph]

now that's static electricity. she has to rub her boots on the carpet for half an hour before going on a mission.

[Canalien]

damn i read that as 'rub her boobs'

it seems Brett Ratner is doing a good job, they're already trying to get him to direct the Wolverine spinoff movie due out next year.

[FatherShark]

Here are some new pics released from the forthcoming X3:

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3167/magnetox34na.jpg
Magneto wasn't allowed to use the dishwasher after this particular incident

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/4813/beastx34aa.jpg
Hank's Constipation was getting the better of him

[kleph]

damn i read that as 'rub her boobs'


whatever works.

[AntZ]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VQY1DH9Z

From leno the other night. I downloaded it and this looks like its gonna rock.

I have three words for you.

FASTBALL. FUCKING. SPECIAL.

[AntZ]

http://thelaststand.dell.com.edgesuite.net/sneakpeek/large.html

7 minute video. It looks pretty good - I especially love the Shadowcat vs Juggernaught bits near the end. :D

[thekidsarntalri]

who else is seeing this on opening day?

[rusky85]

A mate of mine in brissy is seeing it today

[thekidsarntalri]

lucky bastard. for whatever reason my computer wont play any of the links here so i have to wait until friday at 7pm

[Canalien]

saw it 4 times today.

(being a projectionist helps).

can't give my proper opinion until i see it in a cinema. initial response is kind of disappointing.

[sun_god]

Is there anybody else who has seen it and can give an opinion. Not that it actually matters I'll be seeing anyway.

[rusky85]

My mate in brissy said it was pretty good.

He also mentioned that after he left he found out there was some movie sequence after the credits? So he is going back to watch it again.

So the movie must of been decent.

[NomadGnome]

I saw it last night... just typed a whole lot of words about it, then had it deleted.

I demand that pasting text into a edit window not immediately post your half finished work...

I'll post again when I get home from work

[Up_All_Night]

I just saw it this afternoon and i enjoyed it alot!

and yes there's a little something after the credits, so glad i remembered reading that in a review.

[Canalien]

yeah there's something after the credits...

here it is for people who missed it and aren't seeing it again... don't click if you don't want to know

Moira McTaggart walks into a room where we see an unidentifiable man laying on a bed connected to many tubes and life support machines. She sits down at a screen beside the bed and says 'Good Morning'. The patient, off camera responds 'Good Morning Moira', she looks stunned and responds 'Charles?' Cut to black.

[Up_All_Night]

i would strong recconment not clicking that spoiler unless you've seen the movie or are aware of major spoilers in it.

[Zomgie]

I really enjoyed it. And although I like Wolverine, it was refreshing that the 3rd movie isnt based around him as strongly as 1st and 2nd.

I dont have any of the DVDs, so now I will sit back and wait until the triligy boxset comes out. Gold! =)

[NomadGnome]

I saw it last night, and I dunno if I wasn't paying attention or something, but I left feeling pretty empty. It's not that it is a bad movie, it just isn't the rounding out of the trilogy that I hoped for.

Firstly, while there were some pretty cool bits, ther was nothing that gave me the kind of giddy fanboy thrills I got at certain moments in the previous films (Nightcrawlers assault on the white house springs to mind). I don't remember thinking at any point... "Holy shit man, that was the coolest thing I have ever seen".

Some might argue that not every film can blow you away, but it is a big part of why I loved movies like the X-Men and Spiderman.

Also, the saturation of 'new' characters gave the story a hobbled together feel as they each said their 2 lines or played their small part. A prime example is Angel, who existed mainly to set the plot in motion... (A huge dissapointment given his prominence in pre-release marketing) The sheer volume of bit parts was an issue I thought magnified by the 'limited' role of many of the franchises more established characters.

I don't mean to put too much of a dampener on the film, because at the end of the day it an alright 100mins of entertainment. I suppose there is just sooo much I would have loved to see in the movie, and it just wasn't quite there.

[Thorn]

I reckon this movie was a great ending to the trilogy, thats if hollywoods stops at three. It does explains now why hollywood has decided to do prequels on wolverine and magneto.

Its great to see my fav character, Beast. Kelsey Grammer did a great job.
Phoenix effects were awesome, coming from a fellow 3d effects artists.

I know that angel was a major part in the X-men stories, but i believe that the story could have survive with out him.

Now i'm just hopeing that hollywood would say they make another X-men, and hopeing Apocalypse is in it.

So those who havent seen it, go and see it now.

[Up_All_Night]

they will make more, and then use it as, that was the first trilogy. However any more xmen films rely on Hugh Jackman being in them.

Cant wait for the wolverine movie...

[Thorn]

ok today i saw it for the second time and thought of something.
Rogue got hardly any attension in this movie.

But i got a solution. If they took away all of the attension off angel, they can easierly replace it with soemthign about rogue.

Also was it just me, or did storm and jean relationship in the movie was a bit distanced compared to the other movies.

[Thyrd]

ok today i saw it for the second time and thought of something.
Rogue got hardly any attension in this movie.

But i got a solution. If they took away all of the attension off angel, they can easierly replace it with soemthign about rogue.

Also was it just me, or did storm and jean relationship in the movie was a bit distanced compared to the other movies.

Considering she wasn't Jean at all for most of the movie, I think it's quite acceptable.

I highly approve and recommend this movie. There's a nice plot twist that I didn't see coming too.

[AntZ]

I reckon this movie was a great ending to the trilogy, thats if hollywoods stops at three. It does explains now why hollywood has decided to do prequels on wolverine and magneto.

Its great to see my fav character, Beast. Kelsey Grammer did a great job.
Phoenix effects were awesome, coming from a fellow 3d effects artists.

I know that angel was a major part in the X-men stories, but i believe that the story could have survive with out him.

Now i'm just hopeing that hollywood would say they make another X-men, and hopeing Apocalypse is in it.

So those who havent seen it, go and see it now.

Angel should have been in the 4th movie. And that should have had Apocalypse make his "cure" to at least keep that faithful to the series. That part alone has soured me to the X3 movie because small changes are okay but when they completely rewrite a storyline its almost as bad as putting Bendis or Claremont in charge of something good comicwise. It also would have made more sense, because then the Morlocks would have already been introduced so you could have had some of the Angel/Morlock saga there too. As it was, Angel was there pretty much purely as a plot device to introduce the "cure" and that really ticked me off.

[Thyrd]

Angel should have been in the 4th movie. And that should have had Apocalypse make his "cure" to at least keep that faithful to the series. That part alone has soured me to the X3 movie because small changes are okay but when they completely rewrite a storyline its almost as bad as putting Bendis or Claremont in charge of something good comicwise. It also would have made more sense, because then the Morlocks would have already been introduced so you could have had some of the Angel/Morlock saga there too. As it was, Angel was there pretty much purely as a plot device to introduce the "cure" and that really ticked me off.

Yeah, angel pretty much had 4 short appearances. But I think it's possible for them to do a 4th movie, which would definately have to have apocalypse as the bad guy, and make angel Death so he has a better role.

[macgyver]

gah,I just saw this tonight, and it was good, but the sheer butchery of previous plots just kills me. not to winge or be a fan boy buuuuuut....

how does leech sap juggernauts powers? he cant!
why does beast hands turn back to human skin when near leach - that isnt his mutant power!
the whole dark phoenix thing didnt work for me unfortunately, it was just all to simple to turn a massively succesful comic saga into a condensed 20 minute sub plot of a movie.

I could probably go on but it is unfortunately these little things that bug me, the effects etc were great, but as someone earlier said the "bit parts" just seemed to many with no real character development. I cant stress how much I think these movies would have had such a greater life had they started with Jean, Scott, Bobby, Hank and Warren in the original movie and everything else build around that.

(And Piotr didnt even have a russian accent! gah!)

</end fanboy rant, I need to sleep on this I think>

[Thyrd]

If you keep in mind that in a 2 hours movie, they don't really have time for developing everybodies stories, then the rewrites are acceptable.

[AntZ]

Not when they could have concentrated on ONE arc - in this case Phoenix/Dark Phoenix and made a good effort out of it introducing a few new mutants (Kitty, Juggy and Beast) instead of shoving as many random plots as they could together and mutilating them.

[Seeker]

Not when they could have concentrated on ONE arc - in this case Phoenix/Dark Phoenix and made a good effort out of it introducing a few new mutants (Kitty, Juggy and Beast) instead of shoving as many random plots as they could together and mutilating them.

Then anyone not familiar with the comic will get very bored very quickly, I was never a fan of the age bracket they have for alot of the characters from the start, and Collosus needs to be alot more beefy.

[AntZ]

Colossus is okay that beefy - Juggernaut REALLY needed beefing up though. Personally I thought they should have went with the guys behind making Hellboy's costume for Juggy. And it is more than viable to have taken the Phoenix/Dark Phoenix saga and turned them into a movie that the consumers would have liked. Phoenix/Dark Phoenix with the smaller subplot for Juggy would have been perfect.

[Seeker]

This is true, but they would still have to bastardize the story arch in order to fit it into the time given for the movie.

That shit with leech....WTF they doing there?

[Canalien]

Juggernaut shouldn't have been in the film. They should have just used The Blob or something. First of all, Vinnie Jones; bad choice. Not particularly huge guy, and really not a great actor. Second, as mentioned before, he's not a mutant. The whole movie series is centrally based around theme of mutants being ostracized from society. Magneto wouldn't want him. Third, what the hell was up with his costume? Surely they could have included the domed helmet, it's Juggernaut's signature. What a disappointment.

[macgyver]

Well I have slept on it and probably agree with alot of you are saying, it was good, but not great. oh well, if there is another I will see it thats for sure.

But there one was one absolute redeeming feature.

I'm the juggernaut bitch!

I am very suprised they payed homage to this piece of fan comedy, but what a line. For those who havent seen it before and didnt pick up on it this was a clip made a while back now - enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4qdX6_9XgI

[BlueBoy]

It's been previously announced that in the movie Juggernaut is a mutant. With Beast I'm guessing they made the blue fur part of his mutation as well.

One thing I missed from the first two movies was the little things in the background like seeing Colossus painting in the grounds in the first movie and seeing 'Project: Wideawake' on a screen in the second movie.

[FatherShark]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/FatherShark/XmenToonWEB1a.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/FatherShark/XmenToonWEB2.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/FatherShark/XmenToonWEB3.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/FatherShark/XmenToonWEB4.gif

[JessicaDV8]

After reading this thread, I must see this movie tonight! I wondered before how they were going to handle the Dark Phoenix storyline -- she *is* supposed to whip around the universe destroying planets, haha. Nice, FatherShark.

[Canalien]

Oh and some other things!

What was up with Callisto's powers? And the fat male version of Marrow? And Ken Leung's character? (The guy who had full body retractable spikes)... he was listed as Kid Omega, but that sure as shit wasn't Kid Omega. And Psylocke walking out of a wall.. wtf?

Also found out that Ray Park (Toad), Tyler Mane (Sabretooth), Alan Cumming (Nightcrawler) and Kelly Hu (Lady Deathstrike) have only appeared in 1 film each but all have 2 film contracts...
There ARE Wolverine and Magneto films coming out though... I can see how Deatstrike and Sabretooth could be involved in Wolverine's, and Toad in Magneto's... not sure about Nightcrawler yet... although they could finally sort out the fact that he is Mystique's son in a Magneto film.
Would love to see the rest of the Weapon X program in the Wolverine film (that's the main storyline apparently; Logan's search for his past)... Sabretooth, Maverick and hopefully an appearance by Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool.

[reaperman]

After seeing this today, i have to say i left feeling a bit bleh.

I mean, it's a good film but it seemed to have to many new characters rolled into the film, and the way it was all brought together seemed to be all over the place. Plus the stories contradicting with what actually happens in the comics (pheonix saga, and aren't prof x and juggernaut bros, because that isn't recognised at all in the movie?) which really gives me the s**ts with any movie (See Bourne Supremacy - they could have done so much more with that film, the book was friggin awesome).

Not to mention the crazy and indescriminate death toll throughout the whole movie, but particularly at the end (WTF was that all about?) just made me feel like this was more of a cop out way to end the movie (and possibly the x-men films as a whole).

And i'd put money on the fact that there won't be any more x-men films after the Wolvie and Magento prequels and even after those two scenes at the end of the movie - Magneto in park and Prof X because frankly with all the different story arcs based on the comics they've knocked off or neutralised through the indescriminate killing there's nowhere to go.

[Thyrd]

Ofcourse there's somewhere to go. Apocalypse man!

[Sashasword]

Was anyone smart enough to sit through all the credits to see the little scene at the very end?

[Thyrd]

Fill us in.

[NomadGnome]

I direct your attention to an earlier post by Canalien:

yeah there's something after the credits...

here it is for people who missed it and aren't seeing it again... don't click if you don't want to know

Moira McTaggart walks into a room where we see an unidentifiable man laying on a bed connected to many tubes and life support machines. She sits down at a screen beside the bed and says 'Good Morning'. The patient, off camera responds 'Good Morning Moira', she looks stunned and responds 'Charles?' Cut to black.

[NomadGnome]

One of my many questions about this film is WTF is Rogue doing in the danger room at the start of the film? With her distinct lack of tangible powers in the movies I can't see her being of much use to anyone against a sentinel.

[BlueBoy]

What was up with Callisto's powers? And the fat male version of Marrow? And Ken Leung's character? (The guy who had full body retractable spikes)... he was listed as Kid Omega, but that sure as shit wasn't Kid Omega. And Psylocke walking out of a wall.. wtf?
No idea about Callisto or the tubby Marrow-like character, but I do have answers for the rest.
"Kid Omega" should've been credited as Quill. He's a character in the New X-Men book. And the latest incarnation of Psylocke in the comics has the ability to move through the shadows thanks to a healthy dose of the Crimson Dawn.

[DrDivad]

One of my many questions about this film is WTF is Rogue doing in the danger room at the start of the film? With her distinct lack of tangible powers in the movies I can't see her being of much use to anyone against a sentinel.


I would have thought being invulnerably and insano strong would be an asset?

[Thyrd]

I would have thought being invulnerably and insano strong would be an asset?
NOOB!!!!!!!!

Rogue permanently absorbed those powers from Ms marvel from maintaining skin contact with her for too long. This was when rogue was a bad guy in the comics. She became a good guy thanks to the memories she gained from Ms Marvel too.
This hasn't happened in the movies. Anyway, currently in the comics, Rogue lost her superstrength and invulnerability. She has some new fire based powers now I think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_%28comics%29

[Canalien]

Ofcourse there's somewhere to go. Apocalypse man!

God yes. Arnold Vosloo ('http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0903677/') is the perfect En Sabah Nur.

[Grizzlee]

Saw it last Sun night and throughout the whole movie I was "Giddy like a school girl."
I went in with the expectation of the movie to be seperate from the comics (similiar to Ultimate series re-writing the Marvel universe) and I think that is how you have to watch it. If you go in otherwise, you will ruin ( at least not enjoy as much) it for yourself.
As for the 'little'things they changed, adding magic (for Juggs) and cosmic power (for Phoenix) just goes too far in the believabilty factor. Making all the powers to be mutations makes it easier not only for the writes etc but the non fanboy viewers.
The addition of all the new characters had me busting to tell Bambi who is who but as she does not follow x-men, I had to control myself :dribble:

As someone has said earlier there were some name mix ups Omega Kid aka Quill.
But I want to know, did anyone see anyone/thing resemble Omega Red?
According to IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0376994/fullcredits), Vince Murdocco has an uncredited role as Omega Red.

I am quite satisfied with the 3 movies and can accept that there won't be more. Now that I have seen Nightcrawler, Colossus and Shadowcat in action, I can live very happily.
As for spins offs like Magneto and Wolverine movies...don't, just don't. They will be shit. Guaranteed.

[Thyrd]

God yes. Arnold Vosloo ('http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0903677/') is the perfect En Sabah Nur.

Ooh, he'd be perfect. But does he have a good voice? He'd need the voice to match the part too.

[AntZ]

I liked:
- Showing off how powerful Storm is (even if the acting is weak).
- Seeing more Colossus, even if it wasn't much more.
- Grammar as Beast. He was spot on.
- Iceman covered in ice - now thats the REAL Iceman, not the poncy version we saw in the earlier movies.
- Showing the real power of Leech.
- The bit at the end of the credits showing sequel possibilities with Xavier still being alive.
- Kitty Pryde actually getting to do stuff in this one.
- Angel's origin scene.

I did NOT like:
- No Juggy/Colossus fight.
- Cyclops' 5 seconds of screen time.
- Editing of story so Juggy is a mutant, not Charles stepbrother and beaten by Leech.
- No real sentinels action outside of the danger room.
- Angel was underused. He had that great origin scene in the beginning but has almost nothing to do with the rest of the story, just saves his father during the big fight.
- Screwing up the whole Phoenix story. I know its hard to translate from comic to movie, but it was just horribly done.
- Overly high body count in the movie. They completely screwed over so many possible awesome storylines in it for no reason at all.

I am just thankful that they didn't add any more characters than they did. as it was, the story was fine, the effects were great, the dialogue was good, but the character development fucking blew. Beast was the only one they ever expanded on, and that was barely. You leave the movie knowing nothing about Shadowcat, nothing more about Colossus than you knew in the last film, and fuckall about the Morlocks (at least most of them dying fit in with the comics somewhat). and they totally wasted Madrox.

Oh and I liked the fact that they actually had Juggy say "I'm the Juggernaut bitch!". I couldn't fathom how that joke made it in. Must have been a post-production add on made by Ratner in the hopes that the fans would be easier on him.

Oh and the bonus scene was cool, but it didn't help nullify the complete and utter shittyness of a lot of the rest of the movie.

[Canalien]

Argh! Jamie Madrox I know! It seemed like the entire reason he was in the movie from the start was so they could have that scene in the forest where they're watching on the infra red satellite camera. After that he's never mentioned again for the entire movie!

I couldn't pic Omega Red out of anyone. At least Vince Murdocco has a pic on IMDb so maybe you can look for his face next time. Great big russian with a blonde pony tail and red eyes would stand out you'd think though... mind you the'd probably do a costume change. I kind of get the feeling they may have just named some background character 'Omega Red' because it fit in with the Morlocks having the Omega symbol as their mark... much like they renamed Quill 'Kid Omega'.

[FatherShark]

Unused Concept Art from X-Men 3 (http://www.alpaltiner.com/alp_navigation_html/alp_xmen.html)

[Bifrost]

Unused Concept Art from X-Men 3 (http://www.alpaltiner.com/alp_navigation_html/alp_xmen.html)No wonder they weren't used.

[Canalien]

The first couple of Phoenix ones were kinda cool.

Actually I should mention that the Phoenix effects were some of the movies high points. The transformation of Jean's face before she killed Charles was pretty impressive. Very effective and not completely overdone. Likewise, near the end when her red hair was blowing about in front of the yellow light from the explosions, it was VERY reminiscent of the flames from the comics. Again, subtle and not completely over CGed.

[hakksaww]

Brought back so many memories! I have most of the issues mentioned in it! :)

I was wondering why no-one was bringing up the Starjammers w/Dar Phoenix... classic.