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wibble
08-12-2004, 04:44 AM
This issue has been hotly debated by trekkies for many years. I intend to put an end to this once and for all. You, my fellow Zgeekers, can help me achieve this by voting for your all-time No.1 series.

For what it's worth, I think Deep Space 9.

NastyButler
12-12-2004, 03:34 AM
For me Enterprise and Voyager have my fav characters, take a guess as to why. :p


Voted Next Gen, I've never heard of an animated series.

Zan
12-12-2004, 04:07 AM
This is a hard one for me. I started watching it when DS9 was first being broadcast on TV. I had seen half an ep of TNG and TOS here and there, but DS9 was what got me into Trek. I stopped watching it for a while, because it was taken off TV after about the 4th season. By this time, Voyager started, and through renting videos and TV, I think I have watched about 3/4 of it all, skipping a bit of the first couple of series, and some other random eps.

I enjoyed VOY while watching, but looking back on it I didn't like the crew as much as DS9. There was no Odo-Quark dynamic, or the Sisko father/son thing. There were other things lacking from VOY - the girls that Dax picks, for example. Nicole DeBoer is the most cutest trek female ever.

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I picked up ENT when it was on TV, and it was part-way through the first series. I went back and rented out Broken Bow (the premiere) on video, and a couple of others, including the end series 1/ start series 2 tapes.

Through the magic of Bittorrent, I have now watched every episode in third and fourth series to date, and it just keeps getting better. I like watching the malcom/trip friendship, and although Star Trek generally has interesting/funny doctors (Beverly, of course, is the exception), Phlox stands out for being weirder than a genetically engineered holographic cantankerous catch-phrase spouter, with his animals, and his general 'everything is so awesome' attitude.

I am enjoying ENT far more now than when I started watching it - the vulcan arc was particularly good - except, of course, that Vulcans have decided that they should show emotions just for the hell of it, and pretend that no emotions are actually being shown.

Anyway, I'm rambling.

I've watched more VOY than anything else, enjoyed DS9 the most, but am interested in where ENT is going enough that it gets my vote.

Haggisboy
12-12-2004, 05:03 AM
I only got into DS9 after it had ended it's run and was being rebroadcast daily, in sequence, by a local cable channel. As the series progressed they got into the most amazing story arc involving a war with the Dominion that brought together an alliance of the Federation, Klingons, Romulans and Ferengi. The final two or three episodes, which featured a monstrous war in space, easily outdid any of the Star Trek movies for drama, special effects and story. To this day nothing produced by the Star Trek franchise, in all it's many forms, can match those final three or four episodes of DS9.

Regarding the new show "Enterprise", I had (and still have) high hopes for it. Sadly, however, they appear to have dropped the ball. I mean, this series is supposed to be set in a pretty rich period in terms of the whole Star Trek mythos back story. This is the era where there was supposed to be a war with the Romulans, whom the Federation has never seen face-to-face (geeks must recall the original series episode "Balance of Power" for these details). This led to the establishment of the "neutral zone". Only now are they hinting at this possibility in the latest season of Enterprise. For the first two years it was on, however, they pretty much completely ignored anything to do with the Star Trek back story. Whether or not they opt to go the tried and true Star Trek route that has been established over the past several years of completely wussing out remains to be seen. If they don't they might actually be able to deliver something worthy - similar to what DS9 did. Only time will tell.

iaidoka
20-12-2004, 12:09 AM
TNG got me into Star Trek, and I was totally addicted to DS9... it had a higher amount of characters that I liked than other series.

(TNG is great.. but having to avoid all episodes around Wesley / Crusher / Troi and all of the first 2 seasons really takes a sizeable chuck out of watchable material)

DS9 got a little too soap operaish at times, and they totally messed up Gul Dukat after the 6th season (until then he was a great character.)

Also Terry Farrel leaving at end of season 6 helped fuck up the first half of season 7.. there really wasnt any time left for character building episodes. Also a stupid Dax is a shitty replacement for a highly intelligent / sexy Dax.

But oh well, all shows make mistakes.

Voyager was horrible, I only watched it due to lack of any new Ds9 episodes, and even if it sucked at least it was still in the same "time" (how many old scripts written for Data can they rehash for 7 of 9? try... all of them.)

For me, there isnt even one likeable character on Voyager. A totally USELESS captain,
(On the old BBS dialups in Victoria my logoff used to be "If Picard was Captain of Voyager they'd be home by now..."), a very useless first officer who has very little to offer the series (Spock would give useful advice, Ryker would shag something then smirk, and Kira could kick some serious ass for you... who needs a dude that only ever says "I agree with the captain" and maybe ramble off something about indians ?)

The rest of the Voyager cast isnt worth mentioning.. but please remember this is the show that invented both Neelix AND Cas. My one fond memory of this horrible show is when you get to see Tuvok strangle Neelix to death.. such a pity it was in a holodeck.

Enterprise.. I gave up after the 4th episode or so. They actually managed to make something worse than Voyager.. truely impressive.

I remember back when Ds9 was wrapping up, there was talk there was going to be a series based at Star Fleet Acadamy.. this sounded interesting. When Chief O'bian leaves the station to go teach at the Acadamy at the end of ds9, this also gave credit to the rumor.

But ah well.

I actually havnt watched star trek in a few years now.. you guys brought out old opinions heheh.

Aardvark
20-12-2004, 12:31 AM
Here's my pitch for a star trek series

Startrek: Battlecruiser

Here's the premise. A bigarse fuckoff chunky motherfuck version of the Enterprise from the Mirror Universe, complete with big fuckoff phaser cannons that send ships reeling, even if the shields block the blast, planetblasting warp missiles or something, torpedos that home into anything they feel like, suicide deathships, a fleet of fighter craft that gets used a lot, each one being able to take on a bird of prey (either one) without having to know some secret weakspot or use some odd little cloaking trick and armour plating that would make the borg cream their cybernetic panties, captained by either some kind of swashbuckling buccaneer or a badarse motherfucker with an eyepatch and plenty of scars, with a crew of almost equal badarses, somehow winds up in federation space. Each episode will just be this bigger, badder, better enterprise fucking everyones shit up until they're wiped out in some kind of cataclysmic showdown between them and every single last ship in the galaxy that they haven't already fucked up, which results in the destruction of everything except for one escape pod, containing the badarse captain, which lands on earth and begins it's own series, "Startrek: Postal". Which is just this badarse captain running around earth, killing people for no reason, pissing on their graves and buying milk

kleph
20-12-2004, 01:19 AM
can you burn me a copy of that when it comes out?

Aardvark
20-12-2004, 01:33 AM
I wouldn't risk it. I hear the head of their piracy division is tipped to play the captain. All those little moral parallels to stuff going on now in this one's just gonna be people who copy holodeck programs getting dumped into holodeck simulations of garbage compactors, giant paper shreders and volcanic pits of molten magma. With the safety set to totally unsafe. The complete opposite of safe. Where being shot with a gun causes you to not only die, but goes back in time and skullfucks your parents to death.

kleph
20-12-2004, 01:40 AM
pussy

NightLightness
20-12-2004, 01:46 AM
i love star trek as much as the next person but these day much prefer to watch stargate you have to love Teal'c and the humor in the show that so many people miss out on its so sad to watch it with your mentaly difficent friend............but then that goes for a lot of things

legion
20-12-2004, 04:21 PM
next generation. Have tried to watch Enterprise but when my eyes began bleeding from boredom i stopped

frgn8r
20-12-2004, 04:33 PM
I'm an octowussy I know, but after watching a lot of Trek over the years, TNG is the only one that continually makes me react emotionally. I still cry when Troi tells Picard that
'He has always been welcome...' to play cards with them in 'All Good Things'...
I also get choked up when Picrad calls Worf a
'Coward...'
'If you were any other man I'd kill you...'
'Get off my bridge...' in First Contact,
and I still laugh at Data's tap dancing in Data's Day...

TNG had a depth to it that the other series didn't. But I do love the characters in Voyager, the action of DS9 and nothing about Enterptise.

LisaJ
21-12-2004, 09:31 PM
I love DS9. I just love Sisko and the whole spacestation thing. I must admit that it got a bit wishy washy towards season 7, and I hated the ending. But overall, it was a great series.

I do like TNG, as I was introduced to the Star Trek universe through the mighty Q and Encounter at Farpoint. I love Picard and think that Patrick Stewart is a great actor.

I dont know, I think each series has its great points as well as its low points, but I think thats what makes each series great. The actors, the storylines and the general way the episodes were put together just made the whole Star Trek universe what it is today.

Long Live Star Trek!!

Hired Goon
21-12-2004, 09:52 PM
I have never been able to watch a full episode of star trek. Mainly cos I have no idea what the hell is going on. I have no idea which series is which, which makes me hate it. And like our fore fathers taught us, hate is what makes our society great. That and putting bullets in people.

*waves stick at trekkies* begone varmints!!

wibble
23-12-2004, 02:57 AM
I've never heard of an animated series.

It was made by the animation company Filmation, and was based on TOS.

Zan
23-12-2004, 11:26 AM
It was made by the animation company Filmation, and was based on TOS.

And whether it is canon or not is a subject of great debate among many Trek-lovers, due to the fact that there was a lot of total disregard for the established Trek universe in TAS. Like that big orange navigator dude. Or that cat woman. Or those awesome 'EVA belts', that made a skin-tight forcefield around the user, so they didn't have to wear a suit.

Fuzzy Dice
22-11-2005, 03:17 AM
Next Generation was likely the best. DS9 started off slow but developed into an excellent series, especially near the end. As for Voyager....well, I don't watch Star Trek anymore, thanks to voyager.

Fuzzy Dice
22-11-2005, 03:18 AM
Startrek: Battlecruiser



I would watch that. Hell, I'd probably go fanboy all over it.

lifty
22-11-2005, 03:35 AM
The Next Generaton, all the way

FireHart
22-11-2005, 03:52 AM
Necromancing is a dark art.

coreageek
22-11-2005, 04:28 AM
Necromancing is a dark art.

that's right, and ever finnish man has a sauna.

maxim
13-01-2006, 05:20 PM
My vote is for DS9... I used to prefer Voyager but I really began to enjoy the added character development that they had to do in DS9.

Next Gen ain't too bad either.

Symon_magus
13-01-2006, 06:32 PM
I've recently taken to watching all of the series in a row as a project. After careful review, each has thier good points and bad. (With the exception of voyager, which doesn't seem to have any good points).
The old series is wonderfully classic and cheesy. The cheesyness factor is probably it's worst qualities but it is understandable for the time it was made.
The Next Generation is awesome, but there is too much Riker (who should have been killed in the first season). The only other problem with it is that it is much more maternal. Unlike the first series where it seems that the whole mission is to fuck as many hot green alien chicks as possible, the Next Gen seems fairly afraid of sex (with the exception of Riker and being the horrible character that he is, who would want him to get layed). This tread is most notable with Troi and Doctor Crusher. Thier influence seems the exude maternalism over the whole show. Additionally, there is the annoyance of "The Boy".
DS9 was exculded for my survey as I haven't had a chace to get the whole series from bit torrent yet. That is the next selection.
Voyager was useless. There were very few likable characters which made it irrelivant whether they ever made it home. If one doesn't have empathy with the characters, why would one care what happens to them?
This trend was redeemed in Enterprise. The first two seasons were slow and nearly made me give up. Fortunately, the third and fourth seasons truly shined as the characters that you had begun to dislike in the first two seasons slowly changed into characters with true grit. Taken as a whole, one can see brilliant character development throughout the series. The only disappointment was the last episode where it got all Rikered up (man, he and Troi got fat.)

Zan
16-01-2006, 12:16 AM
You really aren't a big fan of Riker, are you?

s3raph
16-01-2006, 12:16 PM
Patrick Stewart made Next Generation what it was. The man is a true professional.

LisaJ
20-02-2006, 08:26 PM
Patrick Stewart made Next Generation what it was. The man is a true professional.

Agreed.

Afta Image
20-02-2006, 08:30 PM
Next Generation was likely the best. DS9 started off slow but developed into an excellent series, especially near the end. As for Voyager....well, I don't watch Star Trek anymore, thanks to voyager.

I am th same here, Voyage killed it for me. I can't believe I still watched all 7 crappy seasons of voyager....

big-panda
22-02-2006, 07:48 PM
I Gotta go with deep space nine

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