Grammar lesson

[mustelus]

Learn to spell and punctuate, you bastards! It seriously pisses me off every time a bloody stupid mistake is made. It's not that fucking hard, y'know.

First off is the difference between "its" and "it's". "Its", with NO apostrophe, is a possesive pronoun. You don't type "hi's" or "her's", so don't say "it's" unless you mean "it is". It's quite simple, really.

On a similar note, learn the difference between "their", "there" and "they're". "Their" means "of them", as in "I fucking hate it when people get their grammar wrong".
"There" is a kind of pronoun. It stands in for a prepositional phrase denoting space or position, real or abstract. For example, "There is really no good reason why people should get this wrong", or "stand there, on that mark, while i aim".
"They're" is almost never used, solely because you morons don't realise it exists. It's an abbreviation of "they are", like "it's" is an abbreviation of "it is". Every time i read something like "lol there dumb they cant even spell there own name!!!!1" i want to scream and throw my monitor out the window. There's no excuse for such flagrant idiocy.

Another frustratingly common one is "should of". What the hell kind of a verb is "of"? You mean "should've", short for "should HAVE". This one is doubly unforgivable, because it's become so fucking common you even hear people SAYING it. God damn it, how can you people be so fucking ignorant?

A totally unbelieveable one is when people type "where" for "were". "Where" is a relative or interogative pronoun, working in a similar way to "there", as in "Where the hell did that apostrophe come from?", or "the eighth circle of hell is where falsifiers of words are sent, and where they suffer eternal disease". Were is a part of the verb "to be", and is so fucking common there is absolutely no reason to ever get it wrong. What really pisses me off about these two is that you don't even pronounce them the same way, and yet you morons still find a way to get them confused. How? I just don't understand.

Fuck, there's no way i'm going to do all of this in one go. I haven't even started on punctuation.

[dozer]

where the fuck did all of these grammar nazis suddenly spring from?

take a copy of your local newspaper and a red pen and spoil yourself, then get a fucking life.

i agree there are some annoying trends but jesus, do you really think the great unwashed who cant identify the past participle are suddenly going to change?

im invoking poetic license, its the fucking internet.

[mr_russy]

I'm with you all the way on the "there", "their" and "they're" words, that really gets to me.

[DOGG]

wow, did my mini-rant inspire this?

i agree with you on the other points too, especially "should OF". That one really gets my goat.

however, i don't get fussy if people don't add commas or capitals. as you can tell i cant be fucked capitalising shit myself alot of the time. but people gotta use periods.

[dozer]

its called a full stop, period.

[gunsella]

I'm with you all the way on the "there", "their" and "they're" words, that really gets to me.

ditto

[DOGG]

its called a full stop, period.

yeh i prefer to call it that too. just called it a period for the americans out there

[StygiaN]

Inferno (http://www.atsweb.neu.edu/uc/s.cassavant/DanteOut.html)

[SOC]

I read Dante's Inferno at uni. Damn fine story.

[annie]

i agree! i read it a couple of years back, couldn't put it down.

[Phyltr]

and ffs, 'OFF' has TWO F's in it!

[mustelus]

where the fuck did all of these grammar nazis suddenly spring from?

take a copy of your local newspaper and a red pen and spoil yourself, then get a fucking life.

i agree there are some annoying trends but jesus, do you really think the great unwashed who cant identify the past participle are suddenly going to change?

im invoking poetic license, its the fucking internet.

Yes, it's the internet, where people can express their views with impunity. You have a right not to use the right word, and i have a right to hate you for it.

[SOC]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mustelus again.

[landmachine]

Pfft, hating poor grammar is so two years ago. Everyone these days is on to dissing emo kids and masturbating to lolicon. Get with the times, would you?

[Afta Image]

Personally I think you are working yourself up over nothing.

I personally don't see Zgeek forums is a place to be overly concerned with spelling or grammar. As long as it is readable I am easy with it.

Personally, I rather get pissed of over something I would consider a bit more important.

[MisterBishi]

this threads bin done like 5000 times you could of just searched for it m8 :)

[kré]

yeah your write bishi, but this is just to funny

[Juice Biscuit]

yeah your write bishi, but this is just to funny



you're english skill's are teh s'uck, If you can't right properly then log of.

[Cassa]

I was at Doyalson (town on NSW central coast) RSL a couple of months ago to see a band. Outside they had this big fuck-off sign that read 'YOUR HERE! DOYALSON RSL'


which confirmed everything I've ever thought about coasties really.

[and3w]

On top of which you are discriminating against people who may not have had the educational chances you have had in this world, people who are drunk and/or stoned and people who just don't give a shiny silver shit!
Seriously though, if we start putting people down for their lack of formal education we would be losing a lot of good people who have very valid and pertinent points to make but may not feel like being exposed to ridicule and/or flaming because they are not certain of their spelling or grammar.
I for one don't want that.

[Asmodeus]

Its the usual thing. Grammar nazis are sadly just a bunch of people trying to justifythemselves to a bunch of peopl eon the internet.

and yes, it's still the lowest form of trolling.

[AntZ]

Like me posting goatse in a thread in the news section!
/hijack

[locust]

I suspect spelling skills are highest amongst those who read lots when they were young.

I'm as prone to rave about the state of modern education as the next person, but I'm pretty sure every school in Australia has enough reading material lying around for a kid to learn the difference between "they're " and "their".

As for the trolling aspect.. well, most nazis don't want to elicit any response except for correct English.

[MisterBishi]

I suspect spelling skills are highest amoungst

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[TheMightyPhill]

however, i don't get fussy if people don't add commas or capitals. as you can tell i cant be fucked capitalising shit myself alot of the time. but people gotta use periods.

How about 'a lot' ? :)

[Juice Biscuit]

wow, did my mini-rant inspire this?

i agree with you on the other points too, especially "should OF". That one really gets my goat.

however, i don't get fussy if people don't add commas or capitals. as you can tell i cant be fucked capitalising shit myself alot of the time. but people gotta use periods.

Being serious for a sec


Full stops are useless with out capitalisation, you might as well not bother. You would be better off simply starting a new paragraph.

[landmachine]

Personally I think you are working yourself up over nothing.

I personally don't see Zgeek forums is a place to be overly concerned with spelling or grammar. As long as it is readable I am easy with it.

Personally, I rather get pissed of over something I would consider a bit more important.

Are you aware that it's possible to tell that you're a teenager just by reading your posts? Amazing what the interbutt is capable of these days, isn't it.

[and3w]

[QUOTE=locust]I suspect spelling skills are highest amoungst those who read lots when they were young.

I'm as prone to rave about the state of modern education as the next person, but I'm pretty sure every school in Australia has enough reading material lying around for a kid to learn the difference between "they're " and "their".
[QUOTE]

Agreed, the same is probably true for the UK and most '1st world' countries. However, that implies kids who a) want to go to school and b) want to learn when they are there. Lot's of them don't or for various reasons cant, me for one. Most of what I learnt has been since I left school, your first sentence being very apt in my case if you leave out the 'young' bit. I hated school and didn't go a lot, even when I was allowed to.
Since then I have done a LOT of reading and am lucky enough to be bright enough to have taken a lot of it in..lots of kids are either not at that stage yet or aren't the brightest colours in God's paintbox to start with.
One of my friends is one of the sharpest people I know but can read very little; I just didn't learn grammar very well at school and am still poor in it..it's just the way I am but I don't think that makes my points or arguments any less valid.

[Urban3300]

I suspect spelling skills are highest amoungst those who read lots when they were young.

I'm as prone to rave about the state of modern education as the next person, but I'm pretty sure every school in Australia has enough reading material lying around for a kid to learn the difference between "they're " and "their".

As for the trolling aspect.. well, most nazis don't want to elicit any response except for correct English. I've read only a few books in my whole life and English is not my first language either. I think my spelling is pretty good.

[MisterBishi]

Fucking foreigners.

They come over here, read our books...

:mad:

[dwarfthrower]

i want to scream and throw my monitor out the window.

Please... don't let us stop you.

[Urban3300]

Fucking foreigners.

They come over here, read our books...

:mad: Whyde youke all mia coont? :mad:

[MisterBishi]

i want to scream and throw my monitor out the window. There's no excuse for such flagrant idiocy.

There's no excuse for not capitalising "I", especially in a thread such as this.

Exits aren't illuminated, but I think you know where the door is. Don't forget your coat. :)

[Bostonmess]

I hated school and didn't go a lot, even when I was allowed to.


I hated school, I had a good attendance record too. I Learnt pretty much fuck all 'cos I hated it so much.

They need to make it interesting.

[MisterBishi]

Whyde youke all mia coont? :mad:

Bee course jew shy tin mike up.

[Bostonmess]

don't say "it's" unless you mean "it is". It's quite simple, really.

because it's become so fucking common
:confused:

[TheMightyPhill]

:confused:

I thought that too.

Isn't “It's” in that context a contraction of It has and therefore the apostrophe is correct?

[xdoctor]

I know just how you feel. The on that gets me every time is the two, to and too confusion. I'm just releived that there isn't much 'leet' talk going on here.

[StygiaN]

Alot off people spell alot wrong ;)

[and3w]

Fucking foreigners. They come over here and read our books!

Bloody right, I say we should burn them all before they get too uppity!

(erm, thats the books, btw, not the..erm, well, you know... :o )

[MisterBishi]

I thought that too.

Isn't “It's” in that context a contraction of It has and therefore the apostrophe is correct?

Yes.

I think the confused author meant that you don't use an apostrophe to indicate ownership in "its".

i.e. This forum has its good members and its fucking shit ones who, despite ranting for grammatical accuracy, cannot effectively communicate with others.

[StudMuffin]

Alot off people spell alot wrong ;)

they spell atleast wrong aswell as infront :fu:

[Bostonmess]

I thought that too.

Isn't “It's” in that context a contraction of It has and therefore the apostrophe is correct?

Yup. Therefore proving wrong his "theory" of "don't say "it's" unless you mean "it is". It's quite simple, really."

When it comes to grammar and people bitching about, I get really pedantic. :D

[dozer]

maybe its a uni student thing, they have been known to take things too seriously.

[Benwah]

heh, so true Dozer.

[TK-421]

maybe its a uni student thing, they have been known to take things too seriously.
Uni? OMG it's a BBQ!!!

[Benwah]

OMG Communism, OMG Philosophy, OMG radical feminism!

Students are funny.

[locust]

I suspect spelling skills are highest amoungst
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I added that fucking 'u' when I was reading over before posting, too.

I'll admit I was wrong, though, rather than blaming a lack of education or claiming that whoever noticed is an elitist pig who had to spend hours poring over the thread to spot an error.

and3w: Education through childhood is compulsory in Australia, and most places have a decent enough school with books in it. I can't speak to other countries. I don't consider a kid who turns up and chooses not to learn to "not have the opportunity".

Upper3300: You must be a natural :)

[Tigress]

I agree, the schools are good in Oz. It's not just students not wanting to learn, the teachers have to take some of the blame too. They are the ones who should have been correcting the mispelt words, rather than letting them go. As happened in my school.

[mustelus]

Rightyho, to clarify a few things:

I don't capitalise "I" unless it's at the start of a sentence. I simply don't think there's any reason for it, aside from convention. You don't habitually capitalise any other pronouns, do you?

Yes, "it's" can stand for "it has". I was sloppy. The principle was correct, though. Nobody noticed that "they're" can mean "they were" as well as "they are", i see. If you're going to pick up on my mistakes, pick up on all of them, will you?

Yes, some people aren't properly taught and don't know grammar because of that. And some people went to good schools but didn't pay attention. And some people didn't go to good schools, but they read a lot and learned like that. And some people can play the piano with their arms crossed. So what?
I don't like it when people make mistakes like these: i blame them for not knowing better, and i blame their teachers for not teaching them better, and i blame them again for not caring enough to go out and learn properly in spite of their bad teachers. If you make a mistake, you're guilty. If you learn from your mistake, you're forgiven.

[Asmodeus]

As for the trolling aspect.. well, most nazis don't want to elicit any response except for correct English.

thats ok, the real nazi germany didn't want to elicit any response except for a revamping of its economy, so I guess that makes it ok then, right?

I'm sorry, but I definitely have to lau since this bit of bitching is about as old as the internet itself. I'm sorry grammar nazis feel somehow superior becuase they anally have to not only correct their mistakes in communication but publically point out others as well. If thats what it takes to stroke off their ego, i feel sorry for the empty shell of a person they must be.

and as for your theory about spellers and early readers. thats just false, and probably a person trying to justify their 'OMG i have zBrainzz!' outlook on themselves. I can pretty much guarantee the fact I have read more than probably any 3 people on this forum combined,and OMG they're even those books without piktuers in them, tho there usually more than a few diagrams and charts. i m sho smrt

[and3w]

I don't like it when people make mistakes like these: i blame them for not knowing better, and i blame their teachers for not teaching them better, and i blame them again for not caring enough to go out and learn properly in spite of their bad teachers. If you make a mistake, you're guilty. If you learn from your mistake, you're forgiven.

and

I don't capitalise "I" unless it's at the start of a sentence. I simply don't think there's any reason for it, aside from convention. You don't habitually capitalise any other pronouns, do you?

You have got some fucking front, haven't you! :pumpy:

[MisterBishi]

I don't capitalise "I" unless it's at the start of a sentence. I simply don't think there's any reason for it, aside from convention. You don't habitually capitalise any other pronouns, do you?

There's no way I, or anybody else, is going to take you seriously when you start a rant on grammar and then decide that certain rules don't apply to you.

p.s. Oxford should be capitalised too.

[and3w]

I can pretty much guarantee the fact I have read more than probably any 3 people on this forum combined,and OMG they're even those books without piktuers in them, tho there usually more than a few diagrams and charts. i m sho smrt

I'm fairly willing to bet I have read more books than you, and complicated ones at that, simply because I am a great reader & more to the point I am 15 years older than you...it's not a valid argument anyway, I could have read every Mills & Boon book ever, this would increase my total but mean fuck all regarding my knowledge of anything except heaving bosoms! (not that I have anything against heaving bosoms, you understand :) )

[StAUG]

Jesus H! Don't you foppish louts have something real to argue about? "Wahhh! Listen to me cry cause *insert cliched dickhead name here* doesn't capitalise his I's!". Seriously, get laid or drunk, or aruge about hanging people and the weather.. or something that isnt bloody spelling, it's a fucking internet forum, no one gives a shit!

[dwarfthrower]

Jesus H! Don't you foppish louts have something real to argue about? "Wahhh! Listen to me cry cause *insert cliched dickhead name here* doesn't capitalise his I's!". Seriously, get laid or drunk, or aruge about hanging people and the weather.. or something that isnt bloody spelling, it's a fucking internet forum, no one gives a shit!

The word "isn't", being a contraction of "is not" should have an apostrophe.



;)

[Bostonmess]

I can't speak to other countries.

Buy a telephone?


:D

[Urban3300]

Yes, some people aren't properly taught and don't know grammar because of that. And some people went to good schools but didn't pay attention. And some people didn't go to good schools, but they read a lot and learned like that. Whether the school is good or bad is not an excuse. I did not go to a good school nor was it a bad school. All the necessary information is in the book you get when you start school and you don't have to read it a lot because there isn't a lot to read.

[Bostonmess]

And you shouldn't start a sentence with and?

[asskickergod]

I'm fairly willing to bet I have read more books than you, and complicated ones at that

The Zgeek forums are not considered a book. Nor are they complicated.

[StAUG]

Praise Jebus!

[ms edeity]

I would be the first to admit to a penchant for correct grammar. I was brought up in the era of very strict rules that amount to very little, however, this trend of correcting people for the sake of being precise is a load of shite!

i am for joy jumping? and there fine the way's they are! :p

[StAUG]

Yay! A sane person! I fish, and I vote!

[Fuzzy Dice]

Feh. It's been done. The only thing you can do is to set a good example. Otherwise your brain will melt.

[mustelus]

There's no way I, or anybody else, is going to take you seriously when you start a rant on grammar and then decide that certain rules don't apply to you.

p.s. Oxford should be capitalised too.

Pish. Is "ich" capitalised, or "je", or "i" any other language apart from english? It's a rule that makes no sense.
The whole point isn't correctness for correctness' sake, but for the sake of being unambiguous and clear. You have to draw the line somewhere between spelling everything phonetically and spelling everything conventionally. I have chosen where i draw mine, and i (of course) think i'm right. Arguably the very fact that you choose to obey all the rules without even considering their purpose makes you more of a Nazi than me. (Or should that be a Nazi supporter? You know, the Germans who blindly voted them into power without considering what they stood for.)
Damn right on the Oxford, though. Must change that...

And to those guys who think i'm trolling: it's not like i root through all the threads and start PMing people who've made a small spelling mistake. I've posted a rant in the rants forum. I'm whinging about something that irritates me. Are you about to say that everyone who rants here is trolling? And if it's a bad thing, why are the administration supporting it by providing a place for it to happen in? And if you hate it so much, what are you doing here reading the threads?

[and3w]

I've posted a rant in the rants forum. I'm whinging about something that irritates me. Are you about to say that everyone who rants here is trolling?

Werd..brings to mind the old saying about disagreeing with what you say but fighting to the death about your right to say it..

And if it's a bad thing, why are the administration supporting it by providing a place for it to happen in?

Means bugger all! This is a community with varying ideas, I would hope that any admin who tried to straight jacket opinions, especially in this section, would soon get his/her come uppance!

[Juice Biscuit]

Werd..brings to mind the old saying about disagreeing with what you say but fighting to the death about your right to say it..





Really, I don't think that I would take a kick to the shins for it let alone death :confused:



But the most important thing to remember is

http://home.exetel.com.au/myfiles/nickle.jpg

[MisterBishi]

My very first post at ZGeek back in 2002 was a rant much like yours before I left work for the day. When I got back in to my internet office the next morning there were nearly 200 replies.

Still pisses me off a lot now but I ignore it for the most part, nobody's going to change. Except and3w, his posts in the early days were fucking mental, and full of dancing bananas!

[and3w]

Shit, you mean they have changed.. :( :( :( :( :(

But I like to think some of my 'News' posts make up for it

[asskickergod]

Pish. Is "ich" capitalised, or "je", or "i" any other language apart from english? It's a rule that makes no sense.
The whole point isn't correctness for correctness' sake, but for the sake of being unambiguous and clear. You have to draw the line somewhere between spelling everything phonetically and spelling everything conventionally. I have chosen where i draw mine, and i (of course) think i'm right. Arguably the very fact that you choose to obey all the rules without even considering their purpose makes you more of a Nazi than me. (Or should that be a Nazi supporter? You know, the Germans who blindly voted them into power without considering what they stood for.)

You've got to be fucking kidding me. If you actually believe the shit you're writing here then you just need to kill yourself. Seriously, if you can write this kind of hypocritical retardation then just off yourself right now because your life is just going to be one crushing disappointment after another. You'll be happier, we'll be happier, your parents and anyone that has to interact with you on a daily basis will probably be god damn ecstatic, everyone wins.

For you to come here bitching and whining about proper usage of "they're" and "you're" and then say that other grammatical rules don't apply to you because you're too stupid to understand them boggles the mind. Then you claim that it's OK to break that rule because people can still understand the shit you're gurgling. Well guess what, if I swap out "your" for "you're" anyone with half a brain is going to be able to have no problem figuring out what I'm saying. There in lies your problem, you apparently have to semblance of brain matter to speak of.

You're right in one respect though, you're not a Nazi. The Nazi's were real big on being genetically superior and there is absolutely no way they'd include such a lowly creature as yourself into their ranks seeing as how they killed off people that actually had all their chromosomes.

[mustelus]

For you to come here bitching and whining about proper usage of "they're" and "you're" and then say that other grammatical rules don't apply to you because you're too stupid to understand them boggles the mind.

OK, smartarse, why is "I" capitalised? Because that's what teacher always told you?

If you ask me, the best way of arguing for the capitalisation of "I" is, in fact, the obvious one that everyone else does it like that. There are a thousand and one anomalies in English grammar, and i've chosen to pick up on just that one? Yes, yes i have, and if you were to say that i'd have to admit that i have no reason to choose one and not another other than the mere fact that this one saves me a bit of hassle when i'm typing.
But you didn't think of saying that, did you? Well, look at that: i'm better at arguing with me than you are.

Then you claim that it's OK to break that rule because people can still understand the shit you're gurgling. Well guess what, if I swap out "your" for "you're" anyone with half a brain is going to be able to have no problem figuring out what I'm saying.

And i say that it can lead to confusion on occasion, especially in long sentences. Maybe you think it's ok because you never use gerunds, and so have never spotted the potential confusion of starting a sentece with either "your ranting" or "you're ranting". For example: "Your ranting is full of crap", or "you're ranting and full of crap". Here's a challenge: i'm going to write a long sentence, starting with "your", and you have to guess whether i used the right kind...

Your arguing against me, although you cite some highly original insults, particularly the one where you so subtly insinuated that i was a genetic mutant, which was particularly ironic since i am indeed colourblind, although i doubt that i'd have been killed off for merely that, in a thoroughly militant way which is wonderfully bilious but utterly lacking in substance, as you fail to answer any points with counterarguments, evidently believing that an invective speaks far more wisely than a fully supported point, is somewhat dissapointing as i'd have prefered to lock horns with someone who is actually capable of forming a coherent thought.

There in lies your problem, you apparently have to semblance of brain matter to speak of.

What? Do you mean "no"? You must have pretty freaky looking hands to make a typo like that. At least on my keyboard the "n" is nowhere near the "t".

You're right in one respect though, you're not a Nazi. The Nazi's were real big on being genetically superior and there is absolutely no way they'd include such a lowly creature as yourself into their ranks seeing as how they killed off people that actually had all their chromosomes.


I'm not sure that the Nazis would have killed me off, seeing as i'm tall, blonde haired and blue eyed (OK, green eyed, but close enough). However, apparently i may have some Jewish blood in me; anyone know how many generations back it's allowed to go before you're technically Jewish?

But enough about that. I must admit that Pinger is about right, on both counts. But i've made my bed, so now i'm going to lie in it. Bring on the metaphorical shinkickings!

[asskickergod]

OK, smartarse, why is "I" capitalised? Because that's what teacher always told you?

Yatta yatta yatta blah blah blah continued yammering idiocy.

Because it's proper fucking grammar bonesmoke. If you don't believe me pick up any book ever written in English for some examples. While you're busy pitching shit out of the language that aren't necessary why not silent letters? In fact why don't we pitch spelling altogether and spell everything phonetically? And why do we need more than one word that means the same thing? Burn all the thesauruses.

You know why we don't do that shit? Because what we're left with is ebonics.

And i say that it can lead to confusion on occasion, especially in long sentences. ZZZzzzzzzz.... Challenge bah bah bah bah I fuck goats.....huuuuuuurrrrrrrrrr...........

Like I said, anyone with half a brain can understand a sentence with transposed "you're" and "yours". Asmodeus has horrible grammar, it's not for lack of ability it's for lack of caring and I never have had problems reading his posts, just as I had no problems reading your challenge sentence.

What? Do you mean "no"? You must have pretty freaky looking hands to make a typo like that. At least on my keyboard the "n" is nowhere near the "t".

I'm not the one preaching about grammar here. The issue is your hypocrisy. I've never claimed to be the end all be all master grammar wizard like you are. Besides which that was a simple mistake. You on the other hand don't even care about the rules you try to preach. My error was on accident yours are purposeful.

I'm not sure that the Nazis would have killed me off, seeing as i'm tall, blonde haired and blue eyed (OK, green eyed, but close enough). However, apparently i may have some Jewish blood in me; anyone know how many generations back it's allowed to go before you're technically Jewish?

Some other shit that I don't really care about.

Hey, wow, that's fucking great, why don't you go tell that story someplace else where it might actually be relevant to the argument.

[Bostonmess]

i'd have prefered to lock horns with someone

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=prefered

:)

[mustelus]

Because it's proper fucking grammar bonesmoke. If you don't believe me pick up any book ever written in English for some examples. While you're busy pitching shit out of the language that aren't necessary why not silent letters? In fact why don't we pitch spelling altogether and spell everything phonetically? And why do we need more than one word that means the same thing? Burn all the thesauruses.

You know why we don't do that shit? Because what we're left with is ebonics.



Oh how clever. You read my argument, deleted it from the quote, and rehashed it with additional expletives. Well done: you may push the button. You still haven't answered the question, though.


Like I said, anyone with half a brain can understand a sentence with transposed "you're" and "yours". Asmodeus has horrible grammar, it's not for lack of ability it's for lack of caring and I never have had problems reading his posts, just as I had no problems reading your challenge sentence.


Really? No difficulty? Why do i not believe you? Aah, because you gave no proof that you understood it, as you didn't tell me if it was correct or not. I'm not sure that even that'd convince me, though, seeing as it's a 50/50 chance or being right. Go on, guess. I'll only laugh at you if you get it wrong, i promise.


I'm not the one preaching about grammar here. The issue is your hypocrisy. I've never claimed to be the end all be all master grammar wizard like you are. Besides which that was a simple mistake. You on the other hand don't even care about the rules you try to preach. My error was on accident yours are purposeful.

Actually, i do care about the rules which i preach. It's the ones i specifically don't preach which i don't care about.
And i never claimed to be the end all be all master grammar wizard, i merely asserted that i found it irritating when people make such mistakes as i cited.

(And everyone makes a typo every now and then. I was being pretty petty to pick up on his, i know. What can i say? Sorry?)

[asskickergod]

Oh how clever. You read my argument, deleted it from the quote, and rehashed it with additional expletives. Well done: you may push the button. You still haven't answered the question, though.

Yes I did, your argument is that the rules do not apply to you. Obviously it isn't true, yet you continue to babble, why?

Really? No difficulty? Why do i not believe you? Aah, because you gave no proof that you understood it, as you didn't tell me if it was correct or not. I'm not sure that even that'd convince me, though, seeing as it's a 50/50 chance or being right. Go on, guess. I'll only laugh at you if you get it wrong, i promise.

It doesn't matter that it was incorrect, you're still a hypocrite. Your challenge does not change that and your hypocrisy is of course what's up for debate here.

Actually, i do care about the rules which i preach. It's the ones i specifically don't preach which i don't care about.
And i never claimed to be the end all be all master grammar wizard, i merely asserted that i found it irritating when people make such mistakes as i cited.

So by your logic someone who doesn't care about proper usage of "your" doesn't have to follow those rules. Thank you for defeating your own argument.

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[mustelus]

Indeed. And i am allowed to get annoyed about it. And so we go around in a circle until we get bored. *yawn*

No, my argument was not that the rules don't apply to me. Read it again, and try and work out what it really was.

Oh, and hahahahahahahahahaha, it was in fact a gramatical sentence, the subject being "your arguing..." and the main verb "is", in the final line. I could translate it into latin if that would make it any clearer.

[ms edeity]

mustelus, it appears that you are a young male student.

GO GET LAID AND/OR DRUNK FFS!!!!!

[dwarfthrower]

So by your logic someone who doesn't care about proper usage of "your" doesn't have to follow those rules. Thank you for defeating your own argument.

http://www.trephination.net/uploads/wonkalose.gif

Pissing contest over.

[Merudo]

............ fucking kidding me. ...............you just need to kill yourself. .................hypocritical retardation...........off yourself right now ..................... your parents and anyone that has to interact with you on a daily basis will probably be god damn ecstatic...........


................ you're too stupid ................................ people can still understand the shit you're gurgling.....................There in lies your problem, you apparently have to semblance of brain matter to speak of.

.................. a lowly creature as yourself ...............


So full of anger...
Where is the love?

:confused:

[minorproblem]

Actually i think the root of the problem is not proper teaching, because when i was in high school english classes focused on the *ooh so wonderfull deep meanings of crap* rather than grammer etc. I really do wish that in high school they taught us about what all those grammer words mean *eg adjective etc* because serioulsy i have no fucking clue. And im not an idiot either, i got 90% in almost all of my subject in high school (math, chem, phys, software,) except i only got 60% in english because i do not care about the deeper meaning of why that actor did what he did. I serioulsy wish they had spent the time teaching me more about my language, and less about visulisation etc. :(

[edit]btw only in the last few weeks when i decided to learn swedish did i actually go out and start learning this stuff[edit]

[dwarfthrower]

I don't know when you finished highschool minorproblem, but from what I remember most of my junior and middle years of highschool English were spent on the mechanics of the language, while the final two years focussed more on the use of the language.

In fact I can remember being drilled on nouns, verbs, adjectives, adverbs, tense, spelling and punctuation right through primary school as well.

[dozer]

mustelus, it appears that you are a young male student.

GO GET LAID AND/OR DRUNK FFS!!!!!

oxford guys beat off to latin, veritas.

[minorproblem]

I don't know when you finished highschool minorproblem, but from what I remember most of my junior and middle years of highschool English were spent on the mechanics of the language, while the final two years focussed more on the use of the language.

In fact I can remember being drilled on nouns, verbs, adjectives, adverbs, tense, spelling and punctuation right through primary school as well.

I went to high school 2 years ago. The middle years of my high school where spent analysis the meanings of books and newspaper articles (to teach you to be able to tell bullshit from what is probibly truth etc, as well as being able to understand how certain styles of writing should be structured), the final two years where spent analysing the meanings of movies/books/biographys etc. The last time i did the mechanics of language was primary school.

[Ash_Housewares]

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[asskickergod]

Oh, and hahahahahahahahahaha, it was in fact a gramatical sentence, the subject being "your arguing..." and the main verb "is", in the final line. I could translate it into latin if that would make it any clearer.

The opoutunity to use "your argument" as the subject ended as soon as you wrote "althoigh" starting a new subject.

You Lose Again.

[frgn8r]

Burn all the thesauruses.

Thesauri

[asskickergod]

Thesauri

Either is acceptable.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=thesauruses

[locust]

minorproblem/dwarfthrower: for me that was all strictly primary school stuff. Didn't touch it at high school.

It was visited upon briefly in English for Technical Communications 101 at uni.

[Al]

Blah, blah. Yeah I get irritated by chronically bad sentence structure, spelling and punctuation. Usually only when it's so bad that I can't read something, and in that case I don't bother.

People spell things wrong because this is not a critically revised work. I've writted a thesis, so I'm fairly sure I've got a good grasp on grammar and punctuation.

Do I get it right all the time?
No.

Do you have a right to get pissed off about it?
Sure.

Do we have the right to give you shit because you come across as a tool?
Sure.

There you go, problem solved. Very entertaining thread though.

Oh and welcome to the internet.

[mustelus]

The opoutunity to use "your argument" as the subject ended as soon as you wrote "althoigh" starting a new subject.

You Lose Again.

This, although you might erroneously think otherwise, is in fact bullshit. It's peculiar word order, i grant you, but it's still grammatical.

And now i shall actually let this thread die.

[asskickergod]

This, although you might erroneously think otherwise, is in fact bullshit. It's peculiar word order, i grant you, but it's still grammatical.

And now i shall actually let this thread die.

Sure, sure, sheep's bladders can be employed to prevent earthquakes, whatever.