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ajcrowley
05-03-2005, 05:12 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/news/After-Saddam/Bush-phones-Italian-PM-over-hostage-bungle/2005/03/05/1109958141602.html

US President George Bush telephoned Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi today to express regret about the killing of an Italian security agent and the wounding of freed Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena by US forces at a checkpoint in Iraq.

Bush phoned Berlusconi, one of his staunchest allies in Europe, from aboard Air Force One while flying back from a trip to Indiana.

"This was a call to reach out to a good friend and express our regret about the incident," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. "The president assured Prime Minister Berlusconi that it would be fully investigated ... We're cooperating closely with Italian authorities."

Sgrena, who was seized in Baghdad on February 4, was turned over to three Italian agents after being freed and was being driven to the airport when the car came under fire at a checkpoint.

The agent who died, Nicola Calipari, was hit by a bullet while he covered the journalist with his body, Berlusconi said. Sgrena suffered a shrapnel wound in her shoulder.


get fucked noddy, this was a fuck up plain and simple

brotherkrusty
05-03-2005, 05:19 PM
Sounds like a poorly organised "clean up" operation to me.

Scythe
05-03-2005, 05:50 PM
Ninemsn (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=4168) is also carrying the story. This was the part I found particularily amusing:

Bush called Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi and expressed his regret in a five-minute conversation, Bush spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters aboard Air Force One on Friday night.

Five minutes? I wonder how that went....

"Gosh, gee, sorry about killing one of your citizens there, Berli me old pal. I've got some of ma boyos lookin into tha whole mess right now, and we'll get back to you in six months or so, when all this fuss and bother's died down. Anyways, i'll talk to ya later, bye."

Bostonmess
05-03-2005, 08:20 PM
They were obviously guilty. They haven't been proven innocent so therefore they can still be guilty, maybe that guy was a serial killer and he hasn't been caught yet, they might have saved hundreds of lives by killing him.

Alternative:

Shit happens. War is hell, get over. It's worth it.

dilligaf
05-03-2005, 08:23 PM
Apparantly they werent slowing down approaching a checkpoint? Soldiers probably shot at them assuming they had a bomb in their vehicle.

johny_roberts
05-03-2005, 08:29 PM
to prove this case we need tits.... that is all..

your usa representative mr.roberts

ps. I am not joking picks must be shown

pss. See the other ps fucker

Bostonmess
05-03-2005, 09:17 PM
Apparantly they werent slowing down approaching a checkpoint? Soldiers probably shot at them assuming they had a bomb in their vehicle.

They thought they'd been shot at.

Nodbugger
06-03-2005, 02:11 AM
They thought they'd been shot at.

You would think the Italians would have notified this check point, after all it was a permanent check point. Or even just Americans in General.

polite
06-03-2005, 03:04 AM
You would think the Italians would have notified this check point, after all it was a permanent check point. Or even just Americans in General.


Nodbugger,
You are a disgrace to the country that raised you. You are an embarrassment to your fellow countrymen who choose to think for themselves. You are a zealot without any admirable qualities. Should you wear your countries uniform you will dishonour that too.All your ignorance has done is to have the opposite effect to what you desired. You want us all to listen and believe you and agree with your force-fed ideology.When we don't you squeal like a pig (ever seen Deliverance?). All you have done is confirm for most of us that we were right about Yanks being loud, ignorant and obnoxious. All the good that America has done and could do is wiped away by your abject stupidity. You are just a caricature, a figure of fun, a ridiculous example of the worst your country can produce. You aren't a patriot, patriots love their country not it's government.A troglodyte with ten TVs is all you will ever be.Want to help your country?. Emigrate.*





*FFS not here.


edit: this is Nodbugger specific, not the rest of you fine people :cool:

Nodbugger
06-03-2005, 03:06 AM
Nodbugger,
You are a disgrace to the country that raised you. You are an embarrassment to your fellow countrymen who choose to think for themselves. You are a zealot without any admirable qualities. Should you wear your countries uniform you will dishonour that too.All your ignorance has done is to have the opposite effect to what you desired. You want us all to listen and believe you and agree with your force-fed ideology.When we don't you squeal like a pig (ever seen Deliverance?). All you have done is confirm for most of us that we were right about Yanks being loud, ignorant and obnoxious. All the good that America has done and could do is wiped away by your abject stupidity. You are just a caricature, a figure of fun, a ridiculous example of the worst your country can produce. You aren't a patriot, patriots love their country not it's government.A troglodyte with ten TVs is all you will ever be.Want to help your country?. Emigrate.*







*FFS not here.


You are so very very WRONG!

SOC
06-03-2005, 03:08 AM
You are so very very WRONG!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :fag:

polite
06-03-2005, 03:21 AM
You are so very very WRONG!

Have you ever heard the saying " if three people say that you are a horse, then you are a horse"?
Noddy, you are a fucking Clydesdale. You hang around on these forums like a spare prick to let people (justifiably) make fun of you. Your pride must be a dictionary definition or something.
You are private Pyle in 'Full Metal Jacket' except he was a good shot. If you were to shoot yourself in the brain you'd have to be an exceptional shot like Sergeant Alvin York and he was from Tennessee.

SOC
06-03-2005, 03:24 AM
You are private Pyle in 'Full Metal Jacket' ...

Actually, he's more like Gomer - without the singing voice.

polite
06-03-2005, 03:36 AM
Where's he gone?, he's googling Alvin C York the ignorant twat, it'll be Audie Murphy next.

Bostonmess
06-03-2005, 04:33 AM
The US has been forced into a humiliating apology after US forces in Iraq opened fire on a freed Italian hostage.

The Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena was being driven to safety when her convoy was attacked. She was wounded and a secret agent was killed.

She has since been flown back to Italy and is being examined by doctors at a hospital on the outskirts of Rome.

Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has demanded a full inquiry into the shooting.

In a statement released by the Army's Third Infantry Division in Baghdad, the US military said soldiers killed one civilian and wounded two others when their vehicle "travelling at high speeds refused to stop at a checkpoint."

"About 9pm, a patrol in western Baghdad observed the vehicle speeding towards their checkpoint and attempted to warn the driver to stop by hand and arm signals, flashing white lights, and firing warning shots in front of the car," according to the statement.

"When the driver didn't stop, the soldiers shot into the engine block, which stopped the vehicle, killing one and wounding two others."

"A wounded male occupant was treated by Army medics on the scene but refused medical evacuation for further assistance. A wounded female occupant was stabilised by the medics and evacuated to an Army medical facility for further treatment."

The woman referred to in the statement was Sgrena.

In Rome, Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi called on the US to explain how its' forces in Iraq had killed an Italian agent and said someone had to take responsibility for the shooting.

Sgrena was seized in Baghdad on February 4 as she conducted interviews on the street near Baghdad University.

After days of silence, she appeared in a video on February 16 pleading for her life and urging the allied forces to quit Iraq.

Occasionally sobbing, Sgrena begged her family to put pressure on the Italian government to secure her release and warned foreigners to steer clear of the country.

http://www.itv.com/news/world_1187432.html

Bostonmess
06-03-2005, 04:38 AM
ROME (Reuters) - Freed Italian hostage Giuliana Sgrena described on Saturday how U.S. forces sprayed her car with bullets as it neared safety in Iraq, wounding her and killing the man who had secured her release moments earlier.

U.S. forces at a checkpoint opened fire as the car carrying Sgrena neared Baghdad airport on Friday after she was released by the militants who had held her captive for more than a month.

Sgrena, a 57-year-old award-winning war reporter, returned to Rome on Saturday and looked in pain as she was helped off a government plane and into an ambulance.

"We thought the danger was over after my release to the Italians but all of a sudden there was this shoot-out, we were hit by a barrage of bullets," she told RAI TV by telephone.

Nicola Calipari, the senior secret service agent who had worked for her release, was telling her about what had been going on in Italy since her capture when the shooting started.

"He leaned over me, probably to protect me, and then he slumped down, and I saw he was dead," said Sgrena.

The U.S. military said its forces fired because the car was speeding toward their checkpoint.

The incident could rekindle anti-war sentiment in Italy, where public opinion opposed the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, and opposition parties could use the shooting to challenge the government.

It has caused the worst fall out in years between the United States and Italy, with Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi taking the rare step of summoning the U.S. ambassador for an explanation.

In a telephone call, Bush promised Berlusconi a full investigation.

ADDS TO DOUBTS

The incident is bound to add to doubts about the continued military presence in Iraq among those Italians who have staged huge marches against the war.

Berlusconi defied public opinion by sending 3,000 troops to Iraq after the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003 and has rejected past calls to withdraw the troops.

Italy's center-left, which hopes to unseat Berlusconi next year in elections and to weaken his standing at local government polls next month, is campaigning on a platform of withdrawing.

While moderate opposition leaders were cautious in their criticism, hard-line leftists said the shooting would galvanize anti-war opinion.

"I don't believe a word of the American version," said Oliviero Diliberto, head of the Italian Communist party, part of the main left-wing block led by former premier Romano Prodi.

"The Americans deliberately fired on Italians. This is huge. All of the center-left must vote in parliament for the withdrawal of our troops."

Foreign Minister Gianfranco Fini, who will address the lower house on the incident on Tuesday, said it would not harm ties with Washington.

"My position on the United States will not change one iota from what I have expressed a thousand times," Fini told leading daily newspaper Corriere della Sera.

"This was a macabre twist of fate, a tragedy determined by destiny," he said.

Sgrena's partner Pier Scolari, speaking outside the hospital where she is being treated, accused U.S. forces of recklessness.

"I hope the Italian government does something because either this was an ambush, as I think, or we are dealing vith imbeciles or terrorized kids who shoot at anyone," he said.

Two other secret service agents were also wounded in the shooting. One returned with Sgrena, the other is being treated in Iraq.

http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=999952&tw=wn_wire_story

Bostonmess
06-03-2005, 04:42 AM
[Scolari told Sky Italia TV: "I have said so many times, war is madness. Probably it was scared boys who fired, it wasn't their fault, it was the fault of those that sent them there." Scolari also said the shootout took place 700 meters from the airport, after they had already passed other road blocks. At a press conference he said: "Giuliana and the other people who were there told me that the American attack was completely unjustified. They had alerted the whole chain of command, the Italian troops were awaiting them at the airport. And yet, they fired 300, 400 rounds. Why?"]

http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000827944

polite
06-03-2005, 04:54 AM
The US has been forced into a humiliating apology after US forces in Iraq opened fire on a freed Italian hostage.


Well that's bullshit for a start. Think about it, Bush doesn't give a rat's arse about someone who can't even speak American.
Humility is an anathema to this plastic freak wannabee leader of the free world. Where is Saddam by the way?

DOGG
06-03-2005, 01:53 PM
i love it how every time they shoot a car it's 'speeding' towards the checkpoint.