Blair 'Could Not Be Honest About Iraq War'

[DOGG]

The head of MI6 told Prime Minister Tony Blair that the case for war against Iraq was being fixed by the Americans to suit the policy, a BBC documentary claims today.

In a meeting chaired by Mr Blair in July 2003, Sir Richard Dearlove, head of the Secret Intelligence Service, is on record as saying “the facts and the intelligence” were being “fixed round the policy” by the Bush Administration, according to the programme.

Source (http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=4286378)

[beachcomber]

I don't believe it

[Up_All_Night]

but its against bush and blaire and howard and the war, how can you not believe!

i dont know if its true or not, but i do have to say, how many people were saying, there was no immimant threat, were no weapons of mass destruction, and they havent been proved wrong. Those that made the claims for invading havent yet backed up what they said before the war which they really need to do otherwise shit like this will keep coming out. And well they've said they cant prove what they said, so yeah...

[s3raph]

I do, they certainly seemed to want this war badly enough to do something like that to get it. All I really want to know is why they wanted this war so badly? So Georgie junior could live up to his old mans expectations?

[DOGG]

I think it has something to do with those oil fields they were busy securing whilst the rest of the country was in chaos. just a guess ;)

[Nodbugger]

I think it has something to do with those oil fields they were busy securing whilst the rest of the country was in chaos. just a guess ;)


Just stop with the oil nonsense already.

[jambo]

It's close: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=iraq+freedom&word2=iraq+oil

[Merudo]

It's close: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=iraq+freedom&word2=iraq+oil




LOL!

[Bostonmess]

I watched that (Panorama, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/default.stm) last night. They ripped him to bits the lying bastard.

[Up_All_Night]

I do, they certainly seemed to want this war badly enough to do something like that to get it. All I really want to know is why they wanted this war so badly? So Georgie junior could live up to his old mans expectations?

There are several reasons, Security for Israel, that quote from GWB saying how he saved Sharon's butt with Iraq, kinda proves it dont it? There is the oil and energy needs of course.
A big reason which makes sense but isnt really reported, they had to do something about Iraq. the sanctions the US insisted upon were shocking and with pride and disliking for sadam they werent going to lift them, but they needed a way to lift them, because of the damage they were doing to the Iraqi people. The only way they'd allow that though, was by getting rid of sadam. Saw that on CNN the other day. There was an attempt to fix a previous mistake but yeah done terribly.
There is also the whole, where do they go from Afgahnistan? Promised a big war on terror? Alot of people make a huge amount of money from the military complex in america, which unfortunately makes people want to encourage its use, means more money for them.
I think there's not one issue but many issues or working together, obviously not ones they would publicaly like to say.

[Nodbugger]

There are several reasons, Security for Israel, that quote from GWB saying how he saved Sharon's butt with Iraq, kinda proves it dont it? There is the oil and energy needs of course.
A big reason which makes sense but isnt really reported, they had to do something about Iraq. the sanctions the US insisted upon were shocking and with pride and disliking for sadam they werent going to lift them, but they needed a way to lift them, because of the damage they were doing to the Iraqi people. The only way they'd allow that though, was by getting rid of sadam. Saw that on CNN the other day. There was an attempt to fix a previous mistake but yeah done terribly.
There is also the whole, where do they go from Afgahnistan? Promised a big war on terror? Alot of people make a huge amount of money from the military complex in america, which unfortunately makes people want to encourage its use, means more money for them.
I think there's not one issue but many issues or working together, obviously not ones they would publicaly like to say.


And you know all about this how? You need a tin foil house.

[Bostonmess]

We need one in Teflon with all the shit you spout.

[Up_All_Night]

well the Israel thing, the security of israel is a major policy of your government. they were very anti sadam, that quote from bush, and there is heaps of stuff that everyone knows.

the sanctions on iraq were shit, everyone knows that, you cant dispute they were shit and just affected the iraqi people not really sadam. Something needed to be done. I have read stuff about how war on terror or not, soemthing neededd to be done. They were also discussing it on TV the other day, on CNN, John Simpsons and people.

the war on terrors flaws and what itll lead to, plenty of shit around about that. Anyone remember a big time magazine thing about while its unwinable.
Military is a huge business in america, you cant deny it. also plenmty of books, articles and so forth on this, i shouldnt need to have to find exact quotes.

its proven we were lied to, all the contradiciting quotes from these people, we were told false information, its a fact.

[darns]

I think it is all about positioning. America needs to position their military in strategic spots around the world to influence and ultimately dominate the world. They have some bases here and there but with their Middle East bases under tons of pressure and protests, they needed a base for operations right smack in the middle of it all.

[Nodbugger]

well the Israel thing, the security of israel is a major policy of your government. they were very anti sadam, that quote from bush, and there is heaps of stuff that everyone knows.

the sanctions on iraq were shit, everyone knows that, you cant dispute they were shit and just affected the iraqi people not really sadam. Something needed to be done. I have read stuff about how war on terror or not, soemthing neededd to be done. They were also discussing it on TV the other day, on CNN, John Simpsons and people.

the war on terrors flaws and what itll lead to, plenty of shit around about that. Anyone remember a big time magazine thing about while its unwinable.
Military is a huge business in america, you cant deny it. also plenmty of books, articles and so forth on this, i shouldnt need to have to find exact quotes.

its proven we were lied to, all the contradiciting quotes from these people, we were told false information, its a fact.


You are still lying, you just believe all this crap that is obviously false.

It is easy to tell because of the way you put this information forward. Oh wow you have a quote. I have said a lot of things. People say things. It means nothing.

There is no flaw in the war, and it is completely winnable. You make it harder and you fuck it all up.

You sit and bitch about it. Shut the fuck and you wouldn't be labeled an idiot by anyone with half a brain.

[Bostonmess]

Shut the fuck and you wouldn't be labeled an idiot by anyone with half a brain.

I wouldn't have thought you'd even got that much Noddy.

[Up_All_Night]

noddy you're regarded to be the biggest moron on the forum, you're a joke and you're the only one who calls me an idiot, so you saying you have half a brain?

luckily those with full brains aint saying it, then id care

[darns]

You are still lying, you just believe all this crap that is obviously false.

It is easy to tell because of the way you put this information forward. Oh wow you have a quote. I have said a lot of things. People say things. It means nothing.

There is no flaw in the war, and it is completely winnable. You make it harder and you fuck it all up.

You sit and bitch about it. Shut the fuck and you wouldn't be labeled an idiot by anyone with half a brain.

If you have nothing of value to add to a (or any) discussion, just shut up and leave it. We're all tired of your tirade. Judging by the way you "discuss" and communicate, I doubt you have any friends, and any adult won't take a retard seriously, so you can go and sell your brand of extremism to your 2 year old cousin, or your pet dog.

[darns]

well the Israel thing, the security of israel is a major policy of your government. they were very anti sadam, that quote from bush, and there is heaps of stuff that everyone knows.

the sanctions on iraq were shit, everyone knows that, you cant dispute they were shit and just affected the iraqi people not really sadam. Something needed to be done. I have read stuff about how war on terror or not, soemthing neededd to be done. They were also discussing it on TV the other day, on CNN, John Simpsons and people.

the war on terrors flaws and what itll lead to, plenty of shit around about that. Anyone remember a big time magazine thing about while its unwinable.
Military is a huge business in america, you cant deny it. also plenmty of books, articles and so forth on this, i shouldnt need to have to find exact quotes.

its proven we were lied to, all the contradiciting quotes from these people, we were told false information, its a fact.

There is no such thing as "winning" a war. Humanity as a whole ALWAYS loses in any war. The only way to win a war is without bloodshed, as spelt out by Sun Tzu. This world is almost gone to shit, but retrospectively the world has always been better (not environmentally, but politically). Corruption and war are far more frequent in the past, and death such a common occurance. We are getting better, just not there yet!

[Nodbugger]

If you have nothing of value to add to a (or any) discussion, just shut up and leave it. We're all tired of your tirade. Judging by the way you "discuss" and communicate, I doubt you have any friends, and any adult won't take a retard seriously, so you can go and sell your brand of extremism to your 2 year old cousin, or your pet dog.


I think it is you who has nothing constructive to add.

It seems you only tell people what they do wrong instead of what they do right.


Like I have hundreds of times, never have you once put fourth an alternative solution to the war in Iraq. A way that is 100% workable.

[Hippy Vindalou]

Like I have hundreds of times, never have you once put fourth an alternative solution to the war in Iraq. A way that is 100% workable.

Are you saying you have put forward hundreds of workable alternatives to war? Or that you have put none forward hundreds of times?
I just want some clarification here. Answer without the expletives please.

[darns]

I think it is you who has nothing constructive to add.

It seems you only tell people what they do wrong instead of what they do right.


Like I have hundreds of times, never have you once put fourth an alternative solution to the war in Iraq. A way that is 100% workable.

I have the right to DISCUSS, to COMMENT and even to CRITICIZE events as I see fit. It might be news to you, but this is a MESSAGE BOARD, not the SENATE. I might not have the solution, nor am I able to implement any solutions which is beyond my abilities but this does not take away my rights to DISCUSS. We are here, in the discussion board, as observers, as commentators and we present our views based on our own values.

And no, you're wrong (for the nth time). I do add value to THIS BOARD, by discussing issues civilly. You on the other hand:



Just stop with the oil nonsense already.



And you know all about this how? You need a tin foil house.



You are still lying, you just believe all this crap that is obviously false.

It is easy to tell because of the way you put this information forward. Oh wow you have a quote. I have said a lot of things. People say things. It means nothing.

There is no flaw in the war, and it is completely winnable. You make it harder and you fuck it all up.

You sit and bitch about it. Shut the fuck and you wouldn't be labeled an idiot by anyone with half a brain.


I don't need to provide alternatives to the shit your President started. I am here to comment on the shit he created and share my comments with people that care. I look forward to the day you join the military and I hope you turn gay.. I really do.

[Nodbugger]

Are you saying you have put forward hundreds of workable alternatives to war? Or that you have put none forward hundreds of times?
I just want some clarification here. Answer without the expletives please.

I am saying you need to learn English.

[Nodbugger]

I have the right to DISCUSS, to COMMENT and even to CRITICIZE events as I see fit. It might be news to you, but this is a MESSAGE BOARD, not the SENATE. I might not have the solution, nor am I able to implement any solutions which is beyond my abilities but this does not take away my rights to DISCUSS. We are here, in the discussion board, as observers, as commentators and we present our views based on our own values.

And no, you're wrong (for the nth time). I do add value to THIS BOARD, by discussing issues civilly. You on the other hand:








I don't need to provide alternatives to the shit your President started. I am here to comment on the shit he created and share my comments with people that care. I look forward to the day you join the military and I hope you turn gay.. I really do.


You still haven;t answered my question. You have no business criticizing him. you have never been president. You have never been in charge of a country. In hs position you would have done the EXACT same thing. Especially after 9/11. One attack was too much. You would have said that you could not allow another attack to happen. And you would have found very quickly the actions he took were the ONLY way to get anything done.

Don't tell people how to do their job and they won't tell you how to do yours.

[darns]

I have every right and reason to criticize events of the world as I see fit. I have never been President, true but that doesn't mean I can't give comments about the current President in a message-fucking-board. I'm not telling him how to do his job. I'm saying he is doing his job wrong. What he has done is PUBLIC, as opposed to PRIVATE (which is family, personal life etc). And I can, will continue to comment on whatever that is PUBLIC which I felt was detrimental to the human society as a whole.

He chose the right response (fight terrorism) but executed it wrongly (war with Iraq). If you don't intend to discuss, or simply want to prevent others from posting in this messageboard by calling names everytime someone posts a view different from yours, please do leave this forum. I assure you that you won't be missed (Except those sick 99% that enjoys seeing you being owned all the time.).

Note: I belong to that 99%. As Royale puts it: Fuck off noddy, you give me the shits.

[Nodbugger]

I have every right and reason to criticize events of the world as I see fit. I have never been President, true but that doesn't mean I can't give comments about the current President in a message-fucking-board. I'm not telling him how to do his job. I'm saying he is doing his job wrong. What he has done is PUBLIC, as opposed to PRIVATE (which is family, personal life etc). And I can, will continue to comment on whatever that is PUBLIC which I felt was detrimental to the human society as a whole.

He chose the right response (fight terrorism) but executed it wrongly (war with Iraq). If you don't intend to discuss, or simply want to prevent others from posting in this messageboard by calling names everytime someone posts a view different from yours, please do leave this forum. I assure you that you won't be missed (Except those sick 99% that enjoys seeing you being owned all the time.).

Note: I belong to that 99%. As Royale puts it: Fuck off noddy, you give me the shits.



For the record I have never been owned and have been correct on everything dealing with politics.

You go far obeying critiquing, which is ok. You do is so disrespectfully that it is sick. You have NEVER EVER backed up any of your arguments with facts. Even with wmd, Bush has maps graphs past information and tons of information. All you said is "No he doesn't" and assumed you were right. Either way neither way can it be confirmed. It is obvious Saddam wanted them and would have continued making them if the sanctions were lifted. And the UN never found conclusive evidence that they were gone and every time they went it they said he was uncooperative.

I really don't care about wmd. I would have supported getting rid of Saddam no matter who the president was. If Gore got elected and he wanted to get rid of Saddam I would be here defending him because I think Saddam needed to be dealt with. The fact is you cannot sit there and claim to want to help humanity then say you do not want to remove Saddam.

[MisterFlibble]

I am saying you need to learn English.

Funny that, an American telling the English and Australian users of this board to learn English.

Actually, it's we, the English and Australians that speak English. You speak some strange offshoot of English, where the letter 'u' doesn't seem to exist in most words, and you end each sentance with Yehaw!

PS: Ok, the Yehaw part was a bit much, but you should get my point.

[MisterFlibble]

For the record I have never been owned and have been correct on everything dealing with politics.

And you wonder why America has a reputation of being a bunch of arrogant, holier-than-thou tossers?

I know that the majority of Americans are perfectly normal, but you're not helping to improve your country's standing in the world.

You're paying out on people that have differing opinions than you. Which is strange considering you claim to be defending America. It is strange because I believe somewhere in that Bill Of Rights which you claim to be so sacred to you, there is a line which states you have Freedom of Speech, free from persecution. Yet you deny others that right?

Is it because ZGeek is not an American site? Or are you just a hypocrite?

[Merudo]

Bush has maps graphs past information and tons of information.

The irony here being that information was ultimately all false since no weapons of mass destruction were found.

<insert chuckle here>



I really don't care about wmd.

No, of course not. and neither did Georgie Bush.

The fact is you cannot sit there and claim to want to help humanity then say you do not want to remove Saddam.


Ok, explain to me again how Iraq was a threat to the entire world?

[Hippy Vindalou]

You know you could have answered my question with that one line instead of being a smartarse and as for this
You go far obeying critiquing, which is ok. You do is so disrespectfully that it is sick. You have NEVER EVER backed up any of your arguments with facts.
You had to be looking in the mirror when you wrote that didnt you?
How do you honestly expect people to take you seriously?

[Nodbugger]

Funny that, an American telling the English and Australian users of this board to learn English.

Actually, it's we, the English and Australians that speak English. You speak some strange offshoot of English, where the letter 'u' doesn't seem to exist in most words, and you end each sentance with Yehaw!

PS: Ok, the Yehaw part was a bit much, but you should get my point.


The rules are still all the same. And Australians do not pronounce the long E sound. So don't tell us how to pronounce words.

[MisterFlibble]

Ok, explain to me again how Iraq was a threat to the entire world?

Bush was afraid that Saddam's moe would grow to cover 2/3rds of the Earths surface, and cooked up the WMD thing cause he knew he'ld look silly if he said he was attacking a moe.

[MisterFlibble]

The rules are still all the same. And Australians do not pronounce the long E sound. So don't tell us how to pronounce words.

Which long 'E' would that be?

[Nodbugger]

And you wonder why America has a reputation of being a bunch of arrogant, holier-than-thou tossers?

I know that the majority of Americans are perfectly normal, but you're not helping to improve your country's standing in the world.

You're paying out on people that have differing opinions than you. Which is strange considering you claim to be defending America. It is strange because I believe somewhere in that Bill Of Rights which you claim to be so sacred to you, there is a line which states you have Freedom of Speech, free from persecution. Yet you deny others that right?

Is it because ZGeek is not an American site? Or are you just a hypocrite?


What is wrong with being Arrogant. I know America is better than any other country. I would never live anywhere else but here.

And the bill of rights does not always apply. On a private forum the owner makes the rules. Pius the right to free speech works both ways. I can say anything and you can say anything. So you are actually the one trying to block my freedom of speech.

[MisterFlibble]

What is wrong with being Arrogant. I know America is better than any other country. I would never live anywhere else but here.

It makes you look like a twit if you're arrogant. No one takes you seriously, and peoples attitudes towards you turn hostile.

And the bill of rights does not always apply. On a private forum the owner makes the rules. Pius the right to free speech works both ways. I can say anything and you can say anything. So you are actually the one trying to block my freedom of speech.

Why do I get the feeling that when you first posted an opposing opinion on here, before everyone got to know the joy that is Nodbuggery, people simply said "I don't agree with your opinion, but it's yours, and I can live with it", or words to that effect.

It's the fact that you trample over everyone elses opinion, even in the face of facts, that makes you look like a dick. You're not even willing to concede that you could be wrong, and you practically persecute those that have opinions that differ from yours.

And I believe that Pirates rules governing the forum would be very similar to the Freedom of Speech. Why else would people be able to post the goatse pic all the time? So you can't say that it the Freedom doesn't apply here.

[Nodbugger]

The irony here being that information was ultimately all false since no weapons of mass destruction were found.

<insert chuckle here>




No, of course not. and neither did Georgie Bush.




Ok, explain to me again how Iraq was a threat to the entire world?


Actually no. It was not false. It was all true. It was all exactly what they said it was, because they couldn't find any of it afterwards. It was all moved.

Now just because they haven't found anything does not mean there never was anything. Your logic is incredibly flawed. What you are basically saying is that there is not a Cure for Cancer or AIDs. You are saying that every single thing is conclusive. You were wrong get over it.


Yes he did care about. Why do you think he went to Iraq? If you think Oil I will never reply to you ever again. If you say oil you are a brainwashed anti-American who knows jack shit about the way the world really works.

Iraq was a dictatorship. They were Bad. Saddam was evil and took away peoples freedoms, rights, and lives. that is also bad. Now if you allow people and countries like that exist it send messages to others that it is ok. If you chopped drug dealers balls off I can guarantee you people would be less likely to deal drugs. If you blow the shit out of a dictatorship other dictators and people planning to be dictators will think twice about it. This works in every instance. More good things have happened in the middle east During the last 5 years than has happened in the 200 years before that.

[Nodbugger]

It makes you look like a twit if you're arrogant. No one takes you seriously, and peoples attitudes towards you turn hostile.



Why do I get the feeling that when you first posted an opposing opinion on here, before everyone got to know the joy that is Nodbuggery, people simply said "I don't agree with your opinion, but it's yours, and I can live with it", or words to that effect.

It's the fact that you trample over everyone elses opinion, even in the face of facts, that makes you look like a dick. You're not even willing to concede that you could be wrong, and you practically persecute those that have opinions that differ from yours.


Actually half the people in my first post were very hostile within the 1st page and I kept it civil until about page 10.

This forum has the largest concentration of uneducated assholes ever.

I have never been faced with facts here. You never post legitimate sources or arguments. If you cannot see that you are brainwashed.

[MisterFlibble]

Actually no. It was not false. It was all true. It was all exactly what they said it was, because they couldn't find any of it afterwards. It was all moved.

Now just because they haven't found anything does not mean there never was anything. Your logic is incredibly flawed. What you are basically saying is that there is not a Cure for Cancer or AIDs. You are saying that every single thing is conclusive. You were wrong get over it.


Yes he did care about. Why do you think he went to Iraq? If you think Oil I will never reply to you ever again. If you say oil you are a brainwashed anti-American who knows jack shit about the way the world really works.

Iraq was a dictatorship. They were Bad. Saddam was evil and took away peoples freedoms, rights, and lives. that is also bad. Now if you allow people and countries like that exist it send messages to others that it is ok. If you chopped drug dealers balls off I can guarantee you people would be less likely to deal drugs. If you blow the shit out of a dictatorship other dictators and people planning to be dictators will think twice about it. This works in every instance. More good things have happened in the middle east During the last 5 years than has happened in the 200 years before that.

So why hasn't he gone into the Congo? Or how about all those African nations who are either in a state of civil war or a dictatorship. Where is Dubbya?

[gunsella]

This forum has the largest concentration of uneducated assholes ever.
.

why do you keep coming back?

[Nodbugger]

So why hasn't he gone into the Congo? Or how about all those African nations who are either in a state of civil war or a dictatorship. Where is Dubbya?


Have you heard anything out of the Congo? Those cannot be achieved through military force. They are way to screwed up for that. They have no one to take control from in the first place. There is no way they would be able to unify the people there. It is just a shitty place that will have to fix itself.

[MisterFlibble]

Actually half the people in my first post were very hostile within the 1st page and I kept it civil until about page 10.

This forum has the largest concentration of uneducated assholes ever.

I have never been faced with facts here. You never post legitimate sources or arguments. If you cannot see that you are brainwashed.

You're such a charmer... I bet you say that to all the boys.

But seriously, you can't quote FOX News as fact. I've seen some of your posts (admittedly I haven't seen them all... who can survive the suffocating stench of that much BS?), and most replies where you berate someone for not having sources generally do have multiple sources linked.

Either you don't read the sources, can't read at all (more than possible), or you just don't care about other peoples opinions, and that yours is always right (very possible).

[Nodbugger]

Which long 'E' would that be?


Like the word Zebra.

I am not exactly sure how to write this down.

But it should pronounce Zebra where the E is said like the letter E, not EH.

We say Zeebra, you say Zehbra.

[Nodbugger]

You're such a charmer... I bet you say that to all the boys.

But seriously, you can't quote FOX News as fact. I've seen some of your posts (admittedly I haven't seen them all... who can survive the suffocating stench of that much BS?), and most replies where you berate someone for not having sources generally do have multiple sources linked.

Either you don't read the sources, can't read at all (more than possible), or you just don't care about other peoples opinions, and that yours is always right (very possible).


I have never only posted FOX as a source.

FOX is much better than any of your Australian news sources. You might as well be getting the news from Saddam himself if you are going to believe that crap.

[darns]

This forum has the largest concentration of uneducated assholes ever.

I have never been faced with facts here. You never post legitimate sources or arguments. If you cannot see that you are brainwashed.

Most of the people here are graduates or have post graduate degrees. So what do you have Noddy? This isn't the first forum that you have been proven wrong, owned and generally ignored. There are even forums you have been banned for being an "uneducated asshole". Funny, I have never been banned in any forum. When the overwhelming majority (not just THIS forum) tells you that you're not a bright person, I guess there must be some grain of truth in it.

And finally, since this forum has the largest concentration of "uneducated assholes", why do you continue to post here? Why not leave them assholes to communicate with assholes, or is it that you can only communicate with assholes. I bet you get beaten up alot in real life, since you have the communication skills equivalent to a green colored brick wall.

[MisterFlibble]

Have you heard anything out of the Congo? Those cannot be achieved through military force. They are way to screwed up for that. They have no one to take control from in the first place. There is no way they would be able to unify the people there. It is just a shitty place that will have to fix itself.

So, it's ok to go into a place that was rather stable to begin with (ok, it was no utopia, but it was stable), turn it in to chaos, and then try to impose a govt? hmmm... sounds kinda like Congo, just without the first part.

Why isn't he sending food and medical corps to those countries? Why aren't they sending in peace keeping forces (basically police with machine guns)?

Why? Cause there is no reason for Dubbya to go there. Iraq has nice big juicy natural resources, that Dubbya bum chum Shell can exploit.

[MisterFlibble]

Like the word Zebra.

I am not exactly sure how to write this down.

But it should pronounce Zebra where the E is said like the letter E, not EH.

We say Zeebra, you say Zehbra.

That's because it is pronounced Zed-bra.

[Nodbugger]

Most of the people here are graduates or have post graduate degrees. So what do you have Noddy? This isn't the first forum that you have been proven wrong, owned and generally ignored. There are even forums you have been banned for being an "uneducated asshole". Funny, I have never been banned in any forum. When the overwhelming majority (not just THIS forum) tells you that you're not a bright person, I guess there must be some grain of truth in it.

And finally, since this forum has the largest concentration of "uneducated assholes", why do you continue to post here? Why not leave them assholes to communicate with assholes, or is it that you can only communicate with assholes. I bet you get beaten up alot in real life, since you have the communication skills equivalent to a green colored brick wall.

Graduate degrees in what? A Liberal arts of Communications degree mean nothing.

I haven't been banned from many forums, well one I was stating the truth but they were a bunch of Nazi fucks.

I am a very good speaker, much better in person.

[MisterFlibble]

I have never only posted FOX as a source.

FOX is much better than any of your Australian news sources. You might as well be getting the news from Saddam himself if you are going to believe that crap.

And you have proof of this I take it? You have a folder under your matress which details all the lies perpetrated by the Australian media?

I'm not saying that the Australian media is perfect, but at least FOX has been proven wrong on multiple occasions. And sometimes, not just wrong but flat out misrepresenting the truth. It may be the truth, but presenting it out of context is to my mind, just like lying.

[MisterFlibble]

Graduate degrees in what? A Liberal arts of Communications degree mean nothing.

I haven't been banned from many forums, well one I was stating the truth but they were a bunch of Nazi fucks.

I am a very good speaker, much better in person.

Somehow I doubt that... you probably sound like that redneck from the Simpsons.

[Nodbugger]

So, it's ok to go into a place that was rather stable to begin with (ok, it was no utopia, but it was stable), turn it in to chaos, and then try to impose a govt? hmmm... sounds kinda like Congo, just without the first part.

Why isn't he sending food and medical corps to those countries? Why aren't they sending in peace keeping forces (basically police with machine guns)?

Why? Cause there is no reason for Dubbya to go there. Iraq has nice big juicy natural resources, that Dubbya bum chum Shell can exploit.

Because, we never turned it into Chaos, you have NEVER seen Chaos. We didn't try to impose a government. They started a government with our help. And you wanted to take that away. What right do you have to tell Iraqis "You know we could help you out, but we are a bunch of selfish bastards from Australia." Why deny them what you take for granted?

We send food it gets confiscated, we send troops and you bitch. We do nothing and you bitch. People like you ruin everything. You never want to get your hands dirty but when it comes to taking other peoples crap you are all for it. But when they actually start doing something you Bitch.

If Saddam has attacked the US you would be bitching about how Bush should have stopped Saddam.

Stop with the Oil crap, I proved that cannot and will not happen. Stop saying.

[Nodbugger]

And you have proof of this I take it? You have a folder under your matress which details all the lies perpetrated by the Australian media?

I'm not saying that the Australian media is perfect, but at least FOX has been proven wrong on multiple occasions. And sometimes, not just wrong but flat out misrepresenting the truth. It may be the truth, but presenting it out of context is to my mind, just like lying.


You watched that Out FOXED documentary and you think you know it all.

You know what, they NEVER said any specific examples. They just say this person says positive stuff. this person is a registered Republican. OMG they must be wrong and biased. The fact is you cannot find any examples of this.

You will never show me, pick an online article. Take something from the News portion of FOX News and show me where the anchors were biased. You can't because they were not.

Every article every made in any Australian news website is anti-bush and anti-America. You believe that crap even though it goes against common sense. They lie and lie and lie. Yet you say FOX news lies. You have no proof. You have been knocked off your house and it has run away.

[Nodbugger]

Somehow I doubt that... you probably sound like that redneck from the Simpsons.


I am from Chicago, there are no Red Necks here!


I love making fun of Hill Billies. I am not one.

[MisterFlibble]

Because, we never turned it into Chaos, you have NEVER seen Chaos. We didn't try to impose a government. They started a government with our help. And you wanted to take that away. What right do you have to tell Iraqis "You know we could help you out, but we are a bunch of selfish bastards from Australia." Why deny them what you take for granted?

Ummm... Bush broke down a functioning govt by bombing the shit out of it. By result, insurgents, warlords, and so forth that were supressed under Saddam are now going nuts, not only shooting American soldiers, but Iraqi people.

Before Dubbya went in, Iraq was stable. No utopia, but he was contained.

If he was that desperate to remove Saddam, why not a sniper?

We send food it gets confiscated, we send troops and you bitch. We do nothing and you bitch. People like you ruin everything. You never want to get your hands dirty but when it comes to taking other peoples crap you are all for it. But when they actually start doing something you Bitch.

Simply sending food is not enough... you need to send the peacekeeping forces I mentioned to ensure it gets to the people that need it. Dumbarse. If you had to neurons in that pink mass you call a brain, you would see in my post the words "food" and "peacekeeping forces", and maybe deduce that that would help get the food to where it needs to go.

If Saddam has attacked the US you would be bitching about how Bush should have stopped Saddam.

If you're indicative of Americans, then I might not bitch so much. I just feel sorry for the Canadians and Mexicans who have to share a border with you.

Stop with the Oil crap, I proved that cannot and will not happen. Stop saying.

Proof!?! Where?

[MisterFlibble]

You watched that Out FOXED documentary and you think you know it all.

You know what, they NEVER said any specific examples. They just say this person says positive stuff. this person is a registered Republican. OMG they must be wrong and biased. The fact is you cannot find any examples of this.

You will never show me, pick an online article. Take something from the News portion of FOX News and show me where the anchors were biased. You can't because they were not.

Every article every made in any Australian news website is anti-bush and anti-America. You believe that crap even though it goes against common sense. They lie and lie and lie. Yet you say FOX news lies. You have no proof. You have been knocked off your house and it has run away.

If pretty much every respected news service, commentator are saying the same thing, yet FOX is saying everything is rosy, there must be a problem there.

Hmmm... by deduction I would surmise that something is wrong at FOX.

I would trust any other news service over FOX. Even The Onion was more accurate.

For the record, never saw OUTFOXED.

[MisterFlibble]

Back to my original point. I respect your opinion, even if I think it's totally wrong. I respect that you defend your beliefs.

Having said that, you are a tool for not being even slightly willing to bend on the subject. You don't even have to bend that far. You can't concede the possibility that there is something more to it that you can't see. You can't concede that you could be wrong.

You are allowed to be wrong you know. Your problem is that you believe the BS you believe to much, and so blindly that you attack others who might have a valid point. If you didn't believe so blindly, you wouldn't be considered such a tool.

You're every bit the religious nutter that these extremists are. Ok, you don't kill people (that we know of. I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt on that one), but you believe so blindly that you're every bit as nuts as those extremists.

[Nodbugger]

Ummm... Bush broke down a functioning govt by bombing the shit out of it. By result, insurgents, warlords, and so forth that were supressed under Saddam are now going nuts, not only shooting American soldiers, but Iraqi people.

Before Dubbya went in, Iraq was stable. No utopia, but he was contained.

If he was that desperate to remove Saddam, why not a sniper?



Simply sending food is not enough... you need to send the peacekeeping forces I mentioned to ensure it gets to the people that need it. Dumbarse. If you had to neurons in that pink mass you call a brain, you would see in my post the words "food" and "peacekeeping forces", and maybe deduce that that would help get the food to where it needs to go.



If you're indicative of Americans, then I might not bitch so much. I just feel sorry for the Canadians and Mexicans who have to share a border with you.



Proof!?! Where?


Would you have lived in Iraq prior to the ear? If not ,shut the fuck up.

Those people are no longer huge problems. Attacks are down to the point were they do nothing.

You need to learn about America, The President cannot assassinate political figures. They made that illegal. He can start a war. And removing the entire government is better than just killing Saddam. There would just be a huge line of succession you would have to take out, each person worse than the last.

1993, Somalia, looks what peace keeping forces and food did. We ended up with 20 something dead Americans and a few thousand dead Somalians.

I provided proof a while ago. We made it illegal for any country, but Iraq to control their natural resources. I had a quote from Bush saying something about the oil, I forgot exactly what it was. Oil was not a factor. Besides it is obvious we haven't taken it nor will we ever take it.

[Nodbugger]

If pretty much every respected news service, commentator are saying the same thing, yet FOX is saying everything is rosy, there must be a problem there.

Hmmm... by deduction I would surmise that something is wrong at FOX.

I would trust any other news service over FOX. Even The Onion was more accurate.

For the record, never saw OUTFOXED.


Show me an article or news clip where they say it is rosy.

[ersatz]

Every article every made in any Australian news website is anti-bush and anti-America.

wrong

[Nodbugger]

Back to my original point. I respect your opinion, even if I think it's totally wrong. I respect that you defend your beliefs.

Having said that, you are a tool for not being even slightly willing to bend on the subject. You don't even have to bend that far. You can't concede the possibility that there is something more to it that you can't see. You can't concede that you could be wrong.

You are allowed to be wrong you know. Your problem is that you believe the BS you believe to much, and so blindly that you attack others who might have a valid point. If you didn't believe so blindly, you wouldn't be considered such a tool.

You're every bit the religious nutter that these extremists are. Ok, you don't kill people (that we know of. I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt on that one), but you believe so blindly that you're every bit as nuts as those extremists.


You don't have a valid point. That is my point.

[Nodbugger]

wrong

Find one that has to do with Bush that is derogative to him or his decisions.

[Scythe]

Graduate degrees in what? A Liberal arts of Communications degree mean nothing.

Well, i've got a Bachelors Degree in History, Politics and Philosophy, and an Honours degree in Media and Governmental interralationships, but that hasn't stopped you dismissing my opinions just as quickly as anyone elses.

Give up arguing, people.

It's the internet equivalent of trying to play chess with a comatose German Shepard. Funny to watch, but ultimately useless.

[MisterFlibble]

You don't have a valid point. That is my point.

The very fact that you brush aside my opinion, proves my point.

At least I was willing to respect you at least a little bit. But then since you're American, you don't need the respect of the world.

Also, since you like to resort to personal attacks when you run out of things to say, or more properly propaganda to sprout, you start to lose any respect that anyone had for you, and start to look more and more like the tool that you are.

[darns]

Those people are no longer huge problems. Attacks are down to the point were they do nothing.


WRONG

March 21 - At least 45 including US soldier killed in Iraq violence
http://pakistantimes.net/2005/03/21/top9.htm

WRONG

March 20 - US soldier killed, three wounded in Iraq roadside bomb attack
http://middle-east.news.designerz.com/us-soldier-killed-three-wounded-in-iraq-roadside-bomb-attack.html?d20050320

WRONG

March 18 - U.S. soldier killed in attack in Iraqi capital
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/iraq/20050318-1113-iraq-soldierkilled.html

WRONG

March 16 - US soldier killed, six wounded
http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0%2C5936%2C12561778%255E1702%2C00.html

WRONG

March 13 - Roadside bomb kills two U.S. contractors in Iraq
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1110720120048_12/?hub=World

WRONG

March 12 - U.S. Soldier Killed In Iraq
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0%2C13319%2CFL_killed_031205%2C00.html

WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG :fu:

[MisterFlibble]

Just like America V Iraqi insurgents. Fighting with Nodbuggery is turning into a war of attrition. Heavy losses on both sides, yet neither gets any real ground.

[MisterFlibble]

WRONG

March 21 - At least 45 including US soldier killed in Iraq violence
http://pakistantimes.net/2005/03/21/top9.htm

WRONG

March 20 - US soldier killed, three wounded in Iraq roadside bomb attack
http://middle-east.news.designerz.com/us-soldier-killed-three-wounded-in-iraq-roadside-bomb-attack.html?d20050320

WRONG

March 18 - U.S. soldier killed in attack in Iraqi capital
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/iraq/20050318-1113-iraq-soldierkilled.html

WRONG

March 16 - US soldier killed, six wounded
http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0%2C5936%2C12561778%255E1702%2C00.html

WRONG

March 13 - Roadside bomb kills two U.S. contractors in Iraq
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1110720120048_12/?hub=World

WRONG

March 12 - U.S. Soldier Killed In Iraq
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0%2C13319%2CFL_killed_031205%2C00.html

WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG :fu:

Nodbuggery got owned! So much for you saying you had never been, nor never would be owned.

[ersatz]

Find one that has to do with Bush that is derogative to him or his decisions.

I certainly can find some that disagree with his decisions, maybe even a few that will deride him as a person, but your extremist rant claims that ALL of them do, rather than suggesting that our media consists of a spectrum of viewpoints.

[Nodbugger]

WRONG

March 21 - At least 45 including US soldier killed in Iraq violence
http://pakistantimes.net/2005/03/21/top9.htm

WRONG

March 20 - US soldier killed, three wounded in Iraq roadside bomb attack
http://middle-east.news.designerz.com/us-soldier-killed-three-wounded-in-iraq-roadside-bomb-attack.html?d20050320

WRONG

March 18 - U.S. soldier killed in attack in Iraqi capital
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/iraq/20050318-1113-iraq-soldierkilled.html

WRONG

March 16 - US soldier killed, six wounded
http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0%2C5936%2C12561778%255E1702%2C00.html

WRONG

March 13 - Roadside bomb kills two U.S. contractors in Iraq
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1110720120048_12/?hub=World

WRONG

March 12 - U.S. Soldier Killed In Iraq
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0%2C13319%2CFL_killed_031205%2C00.html

WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG :fu:


HEY YOU FUCKING COCK SUCKER, I AM NOT WRONG, THOSE ARE LITTLE A, IT WAS A BAD WEEK. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST FEW MONTHS AS A WHOLE THEY ATTACKS HAVE GONE DOWN. NOW GO BACK YOU YOUR FUCKING ROOM YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

[Nodbugger]

I certainly can find some that disagree with his decisions, maybe even a few that will deride him as a person, but your extremist rant claims that ALL of them do, rather than suggesting that our media consists of a spectrum of viewpoints.


Your media produced you idiots.

[DOGG]

Calendar of the Dead
Year 1
March 2003 59
April 2003 92
May 2003 31
June 2003 34
July 2003 42
August 2003 37
September 2003 33
October 2003 47
November 2003 84
December 2003 49
January 2004 43
February 2004 31
Total Dead Year 1 -- 582
Year 2
March 2004 42
April 2004 129
May 2004 80
June 2004 52
July 2004 60
August 2004 67
September 2004 79
October 2004 62
November 2004 140
December 2004 79
January 2005 101
February 2005 65
Total Dead Year 2 -- 958 Total 2 Years -- 1,540
Year 3
March 2005 36
Total Dead Year 3 -- 36 Total 3 Years -- 1,576

[Nodbugger]

Calendar of the Dead
Year 1
March 2003 59
April 2003 92
May 2003 31
June 2003 34
July 2003 42
August 2003 37
September 2003 33
October 2003 47
November 2003 84
December 2003 49
January 2004 43
February 2004 31
Total Dead Year 1 -- 582
Year 2
March 2004 42
April 2004 129
May 2004 80
June 2004 52
July 2004 60
August 2004 67
September 2004 79
October 2004 62
November 2004 140
December 2004 79
January 2005 101
February 2005 65
Total Dead Year 2 -- 958 Total 2 Years -- 1,540
Year 3
March 2005 36
Total Dead Year 3 -- 36 Total 3 Years -- 1,576

American Revolution 8 Years - 25324 killed
Indian Wars 1 year - 6125 Killed
Mexican War 2 years - 13283 Killed
Civil War 4 years (North) - 363,020 Killed
Civil War 4 years (South) - 199,110 Killed
Spanish American War 1 year - 2893 Killed
Philippines War 3 years - 4273 Killed
World War I 2 years - 116,708 Killed
Pearl Harbor (couple hours) - 2388 Killed
World War II 4 years - 408,306 killed
Battle of Iwo Jima - 6,503 killed
Korean War 3 years - 54,246 Killed
Vietnam War 8 years - 58,219 Killed
Tet Offensive - 7,040

Iraq War-

COMBAT/ATTACKS
United States 1126
Britain 29
Bulgaria 7
Denmark 1
El Salvador 1
Estonia 2
Hungary 1
Italy 19
Latvia 1
Netherlands 2
Poland 13
Slovakia 3
Spain 11
Thailand 2
Ukraine 9
POW 7

NON-COMBAT
United States 347
Britain 43
Other nations 19


# American Revolution: $3.2 billion.
# War of 1812: $1 billion.
# Mexican War: $1.8 billion.
# Civil War: $50 billion Union, $21.8 billion Confederacy.
# Spanish-American War: $6.5 billion.
# World War I: $588 billion.
# World War II: $4.8 trillion.
# Korean War: $408 billion.
# Vietnam War: $584 billion.
# Persian Gulf War of 1991: $82 billion.
# Operation Iraqi Freedom: $159 billion, as of 10 Sept 2003.

[MisterFlibble]

HEY YOU FUCKING COCK SUCKER, I AM NOT WRONG, THOSE ARE LITTLE A, IT WAS A BAD WEEK. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST FEW MONTHS AS A WHOLE THEY ATTACKS HAVE GONE DOWN. NOW GO BACK YOU YOUR FUCKING ROOM YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

See, I was right! When presented with information that proves you wrong, you resort to personal attacks.

If this were any other board, attacks like that would get you banned. You're lucky the mods of this site are so lenient on you.

I'm surprised you didn't try to discount each story as false by looking for an opposing FOX story.

[MisterFlibble]

American Revolution 8 Years - 25324 killed
Indian Wars 1 year - 6125 Killed
Mexican War 2 years - 13283 Killed
Civil War 4 years (North) - 363,020 Killed
Civil War 4 years (South) - 199,110 Killed
Spanish American War 1 year - 2893 Killed
Philippines War 3 years - 4273 Killed
World War I 2 years - 116,708 Killed
Pearl Harbor (couple hours) - 2388 Killed
World War II 4 years - 408,306 killed
Battle of Iwo Jima - 6,503 killed
Korean War 3 years - 54,246 Killed
Vietnam War 8 years - 58,219 Killed
Tet Offensive - 7,040

Iraq War-

COMBAT/ATTACKS
United States 1126
Britain 29
Bulgaria 7
Denmark 1
El Salvador 1
Estonia 2
Hungary 1
Italy 19
Latvia 1
Netherlands 2
Poland 13
Slovakia 3
Spain 11
Thailand 2
Ukraine 9
POW 7

NON-COMBAT
United States 347
Britain 43
Other nations 19


# American Revolution: $3.2 billion.
# War of 1812: $1 billion.
# Mexican War: $1.8 billion.
# Civil War: $50 billion Union, $21.8 billion Confederacy.
# Spanish-American War: $6.5 billion.
# World War I: $588 billion.
# World War II: $4.8 trillion.
# Korean War: $408 billion.
# Vietnam War: $584 billion.
# Persian Gulf War of 1991: $82 billion.
# Operation Iraqi Freedom: $159 billion, as of 10 Sept 2003.

Sources Nodbuggery! If you're gonna tout figures as fact, at least provide a link!

[Merudo]

HEY YOU FUCKING COCK SUCKER, I AM NOT WRONG, THOSE ARE LITTLE A, IT WAS A BAD WEEK. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST FEW MONTHS AS A WHOLE THEY ATTACKS HAVE GONE DOWN. NOW GO BACK YOU YOUR FUCKING ROOM YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
I only see one fucking idiot in this conversation.

And he's from (allegedly) Chicago, Illinois.

And his online handle sure isn't Directed.

[haiironezumi]

American Revolution 8 Years - 25324 killed
Indian Wars 1 year - 6125 Killed
Mexican War 2 years - 13283 Killed
Civil War 4 years (North) - 363,020 Killed
Civil War 4 years (South) - 199,110 Killed
Spanish American War 1 year - 2893 Killed
Philippines War 3 years - 4273 Killed
World War I 2 years - 116,708 Killed
Pearl Harbor (couple hours) - 2388 Killed
World War II 4 years - 408,306 killed
Battle of Iwo Jima - 6,503 killed
Korean War 3 years - 54,246 Killed
Vietnam War 8 years - 58,219 Killed
Tet Offensive - 7,040

Are these figures for both sides, or just for the U.S?

It seems to me that this months number of dead seems to be keeping up with the status quo.

[Nodbugger]

Sources Nodbuggery! If you're gonna tout figures as fact, at least provide a link!

http://members.aol.com/usregistry/allwars.htm

[Nodbugger]

See, I was right! When presented with information that proves you wrong, you resort to personal attacks.

If this were any other board, attacks like that would get you banned. You're lucky the mods of this site are so lenient on you.

I'm surprised you didn't try to discount each story as false by looking for an opposing FOX story.

It doesn't prove me wrong. He has a handful of attacks. I said they slowed, not stopped. They in no way proved me wrong. He found that a few attacks happened in the last couple days, apparently he thinks that is bad. What he doesn't know is even with those attacks Iraqs death rate is still far lower than his own countries death rate.

[MisterFlibble]

It doesn't prove me wrong. He has a handful of attacks. I said they slowed, not stopped. They in no way proved me wrong. He found that a few attacks happened in the last couple days, apparently he thinks that is bad. What he doesn't know is even with those attacks Iraqs death rate is still far lower than his own countries death rate.

Well, whether you were wrong or not, it DOES NOT give you the right to act like a complete an utter dick to people.

The section of your post I quoted is a perfectly intelligent post, maybe based on dubious facts (leave that for another debate please!), but is friendly, while still getting your point across.

I wonder if you have any friends? Any at all? I bet they all hang out on the front porch in camo gear shooting rabbits, while one plays the banjo. Either that, they are part of some kind of secret Bush militia. Kinda like Doctor Evil's private army.

[haiironezumi]

It doesn't prove me wrong. He has a handful of attacks. I said they slowed, not stopped. They in no way proved me wrong. He found that a few attacks happened in the last couple days, apparently he thinks that is bad. What he doesn't know is even with those attacks Iraqs death rate is still far lower than his own countries death rate.


You specificlly said the attacks were "down to the point were(sic) they do nothing" I believe a death is not "nothing". Or would you say that an American citizen bring killed isn't important?

[darns]

It doesn't prove me wrong. He has a handful of attacks. I said they slowed, not stopped. They in no way proved me wrong. He found that a few attacks happened in the last couple days, apparently he thinks that is bad. What he doesn't know is even with those attacks Iraqs death rate is still far lower than his own countries death rate.

Idiot. It is futile trying to argue with you, but I can't resist handling your ass to you on a platter.

You said:

Those people are no longer huge problems. Attacks are down to the point were they do nothing.

"down to the point where they do nothing"
"down to the point where they do nothing"
"down to the point where they do nothing"
"down to the point where they do nothing"
"down to the point where they do nothing"
"down to the point where they do nothing"

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=nothing
adv.
In no way or degree; not at all:

And I have proven that there ARE still attacks and soldiers are dying (reported) every 2 days. THAT is NOT NOTHING. I only posted for the past few weeks to prove my point, I need not chronicle the entire year.

FACT: Attacks are still rampantly happening. People are still dying. That is NOT nothing.

FACT: Green Zones are still needed because attacks still happen often. Plenty of areas in Iraq currently are so dangerous, noone sane will want to enter these areas, and it includes areas in Baghdad.

FACT: Malaysia have a lower death rate than Iraq. I refuse to post a source because you'll ignore it anyway.

FACT: Nodbugger is a complete idiot that resorts to name calling and throwing tantrums when proven to be wrong. Source: Zgeek.com forums.

And finally, TRUTH: Nodbugger has been proven wrong.

Thank you ladies and gentlemen.

[darns]

HEY YOU FUCKING COCK SUCKER, I AM NOT WRONG, THOSE ARE LITTLE A, IT WAS A BAD WEEK. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST FEW MONTHS AS A WHOLE THEY ATTACKS HAVE GONE DOWN. NOW GO BACK YOU YOUR FUCKING ROOM YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

Calendar of the Dead
Year 1
March 2003 59
April 2003 92
May 2003 31
June 2003 34
July 2003 42
August 2003 37
September 2003 33
October 2003 47
November 2003 84
December 2003 49
January 2004 43
February 2004 31
Total Dead Year 1 -- 582
Year 2
March 2004 42
April 2004 129
May 2004 80
June 2004 52
July 2004 60
August 2004 67
September 2004 79
October 2004 62
November 2004 140
December 2004 79
January 2005 101
February 2005 65
Total Dead Year 2 -- 958 Total 2 Years -- 1,540
Year 3
March 2005 36
Total Dead Year 3 -- 36 Total 3 Years -- 1,576

"BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST FEW MONTHS AS A WHOLE THEY ATTACKS HAVE GONE DOWN". DOGG showed that the last few months, instead of going down, the attacks/deaths INCREASED!

But when faced with such potentially scandalous situation where Nodbugger will be proven wrong, what does a Nodbugger do?

A Nodbugger does what a Nodbugger does best, deflect the arguement to the point it is not relevant anymore. He posted the deaths of OTHER WARS! What has that got to do with this statement:

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST FEW MONTHS AS A WHOLE THEY ATTACKS HAVE GONE DOWN

Yep. Nothing. It just proves that war kills people. Yawn


Another TRUTH: Nodbugger's statement proven wrong again.

[Up_All_Night]

You need to learn about America, The President cannot assassinate political figures.

the CIA and the school of the america's and so forth can arrange it though


what about the plan to disguise a bomb as a rare shell for Castro to pick up because he liked shells. thats assasination and all these plans they had to bump him off came out under the freedom of information act

[Nodbugger]

"BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST FEW MONTHS AS A WHOLE THEY ATTACKS HAVE GONE DOWN". DOGG showed that the last few months, instead of going down, the attacks/deaths INCREASED!

But when faced with such potentially scandalous situation where Nodbugger will be proven wrong, what does a Nodbugger do?

A Nodbugger does what a Nodbugger does best, deflect the arguement to the point it is not relevant anymore. He posted the deaths of OTHER WARS! What has that got to do with this statement:

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST FEW MONTHS AS A WHOLE THEY ATTACKS HAVE GONE DOWN

Yep. Nothing. It just proves that war kills people. Yawn


Another TRUTH: Nodbugger's statement proven wrong again.


I am not wrong.

You take those numbers out of context. Like you always do.

In the first year we did a lot less than in the second year. And in the third year we will also lose a lot less. Attacks have been going down in size and frequency. They used to have 10+ per day. 1 every couple days is not bad.

[Nodbugger]

Idiot. It is futile trying to argue with you, but I can't resist handling your ass to you on a platter.

You said:

Those people are no longer huge problems. Attacks are down to the point were they do nothing.

"down to the point where they do nothing"
"down to the point where they do nothing"
"down to the point where they do nothing"
"down to the point where they do nothing"
"down to the point where they do nothing"
"down to the point where they do nothing"

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=nothing
adv.
In no way or degree; not at all:

And I have proven that there ARE still attacks and soldiers are dying (reported) every 2 days. THAT is NOT NOTHING. I only posted for the past few weeks to prove my point, I need not chronicle the entire year.

FACT: Attacks are still rampantly happening. People are still dying. That is NOT nothing.

FACT: Green Zones are still needed because attacks still happen often. Plenty of areas in Iraq currently are so dangerous, noone sane will want to enter these areas, and it includes areas in Baghdad.

FACT: Malaysia have a lower death rate than Iraq. I refuse to post a source because you'll ignore it anyway.

FACT: Nodbugger is a complete idiot that resorts to name calling and throwing tantrums when proven to be wrong. Source: Zgeek.com forums.

And finally, TRUTH: Nodbugger has been proven wrong.

Thank you ladies and gentlemen.

No, look at above post. You are wrong.

[Bostonmess]

What is wrong with being Arrogant. I know America is better than any other country. I would never live anywhere else but here.

As if anywhere else would fucking have you.

[MisterFlibble]

As if anywhere else would fucking have you.

I think even American's barely tolorate him.

[jak]

Actually half the people in my first post were very hostile within the 1st page and I kept it civil until about page 10.

This forum has the largest concentration of uneducated assholes ever.

I have never been faced with facts here. You never post legitimate sources or arguments. If you cannot see that you are brainwashed.

May I ask why you (continue to) post on this forum then?

[jak]

I am not wrong.

You take those numbers out of context. Like you always do.

In the first year we did a lot less than in the second year. And in the third year we will also lose a lot less. Attacks have been going down in size and frequency. They used to have 10+ per day. 1 every couple days is not bad.

Third year?

i thought you said things would "be fine" after 8 months?

http://forums.zgeek.com/showpost.php?p=498385&postcount=107

[darns]

I am not wrong.

You take those numbers out of context. Like you always do.

In the first year we did a lot less than in the second year. And in the third year we will also lose a lot less. Attacks have been going down in size and frequency. They used to have 10+ per day. 1 every couple days is not bad.

You said Attacks are down to the point were they do nothing.
And now you admit 1 every couple days is not bad

Does NOTHING = 1 every couple of days?

If the answer is NO, then you are WRONG. Live with it.
If the answer is YES, then you are WRONG too, Live with it.

[Nodbugger]

Third year?

i thought you said things would "be fine" after 8 months?

http://forums.zgeek.com/showpost.php?p=498385&postcount=107


Elections, lower attacks. It is doing a hell of a lot better than any other country right out of a war and a complete government change.

[Nodbugger]

You said Attacks are down to the point were they do nothing.
And now you admit 1 every couple days is not bad

Does NOTHING = 1 every couple of days?

If the answer is NO, then you are WRONG. Live with it.
If the answer is YES, then you are WRONG too, Live with it.

Nothing as in they are not stopping progress. No one is backing down because the attacks are accomplishing nothing. They are not bringing down anything. That is nothing. The figurative nothing.

BTW, you are wrong...as usual.

[MisterFlibble]

First we have:
You said Attacks are down to the point were they do nothing.
And now you admit 1 every couple days is not bad

Does NOTHING = 1 every couple of days?

If the answer is NO, then you are WRONG. Live with it.
If the answer is YES, then you are WRONG too, Live with it.

Then Nodbuggery's reply:
Nothing as in they are not stopping progress. No one is backing down because the attacks are accomplishing nothing. They are not bringing down anything. That is nothing. The figurative nothing.

BTW, you are wrong...as usual.

Nod-arse-buggery, did you even read darns post that you quoted? He asked you if NOTHING = 1 every couple of days. Quite obviously you were wrong, yet cannot admit that.

You are so inflexible on even simple things, that you just continue to prove just how much of a tool you are.

Oh, and thankyou for calling me an ass in your de-rep message. It hurts so much to be called a donkey. If you could speak English, you would know that an ass is a donkey, and an ARSE is that fat bacon lard filled tub you sit on every day.

[Nodbugger]

First we have:


Then Nodbuggery's reply:


Nod-arse-buggery, did you even read darns post that you quoted? He asked you if NOTHING = 1 every couple of days. Quite obviously you were wrong, yet cannot admit that.

You are so inflexible on even simple things, that you just continue to prove just how much of a tool you are.

Oh, and thankyou for calling me an ass in your de-rep message. It hurts so much to be called a donkey. If you could speak English, you would know that an ass is a donkey, and an ARSE is that fat bacon lard filled tub you sit on every day.


If someone hit you ever day, but it didn't hurt. Would it be nothing to you?

[darns]

I bet to the parents, the wives and the children of those soldiers who died, it hurt and it hurts ALOT.

By the same token, when your dad dies in combat I bet it won't hurt you a bit. We shall even have a small celebration here and I'm sure Pirate would be generous enough the post a main page news of your dad resting in pieces.

[MisterFlibble]

I bet to the parents, the wives and the children of those soldiers who died, it hurt and it hurts ALOT.

By the same token, when your dad dies in combat I bet it won't hurt you a bit. We shall even have a small celebration here and I'm sure Pirate would be generous enough the post a main page news of your dad resting in pieces.

Thankyou darn, couldn't have said it better.

Every life is something. So don't say it's nothing. I don't think you're that much of a heartless prick Nodbuggery.

[Hippy Vindalou]

Dont worry MisterFlibble, I think we all got a little -rep ass today. Retaliation for the caning his rep has recieved in the last 48 hours.
But its a small price to pay for some peace n quiet so keep -repping till he learns some manners or can no longer post, its the only way.