Lost (SPOILER ALERT)

[Blink]

Couldn't wait for it to start in Feb so I copied the first 12 episodes from a mate of mine, just got through watching them last night. I was absolutely blown away. For those who don't know it starts off with a plane crash with 47 survivors stranded on an island somewhere near the equator in the pacific.

Whoever the writers are for that show, they are absolutely fucking brilliant. The story progresses in such a way that *everything* is a mystery. I can't say too much more, except watch it! I just finished episode 12 last night and couldn't get to sleep because I was trying to figure out what the hell was happening.

[BlueBoy]

Pity it's on Channel 7.
They'll play the first episode in primetime, realise it's actually good, then move it to 11pm.

[Benwah]

So very true BlueBoy, I'm sure it will go the way of 'arrested development' and 'scrubs' and be replaced by the O.C or Summerland or somesuch drivel.

[Blink]

Pity it's on Channel 7.
They'll play the first episode in primetime, realise it's actually good, then move it to 11pm.

Werd. And then put another stupid reality tv show in the prime time slot.

[ajcrowley]

Pity it's on Channel 7.
They'll play the first episode in primetime, realise it's actually good, then move it to 11pm.


Not this time, i have it on good Authority it wont go to a silly timeslot, i love Scrubs but the truth is it never rated when it was in a decent time slot. arrested development was never given a chance though

[BtrFly]

i have watched 11 eps.... i am hanging for the next 2.... *checks letterbox* :D

[Blink]

i have watched 11 eps.... i am hanging for the next 2.... *checks letterbox* :D

As I am currently not on broadband at home I am hassling my friends to keep a sharp eye out for the latest episode ;-)

Considering hooking the PC up to the Plasma so I can watch them in 42" widescreen instead of on my 17" monitor...

[Enos]

/me hugs Bittorrent

[fbleagh]

torrents are the only way to watch tv :)

[fbleagh]

ohh and Lost is an awesome show so far :)

[T-WRX]

I don't usually watch tv. But I have been trying to follow the Sopranos. I started watching that show about a year ago, but have been playing catch-up with reruns. It still sometimes doesn't make sense.

[NastyButler]

I have been following this show too (just watched the 14 ep) and it is probably the first tv show I've really liked for years. Even if it sounds dodge and you don't want to waste bandwidth, tune in anyway.

[defjux]

Yeah i don't really get into that many shows either but i been tryin to catch as many episodes of lost as i can. i hope they put it out on dvd some time

[Blink]

And more importantly, does anyone have any clue as to what is really happening on the island? Example (for those who haven't seen the first 12 episodes and don't want to know anything about it - stop reading here)



When Kate and Sawyer find the waterfall...just after Kate says something like "Sshh, did you hear that?" there is a very faint creepy voice that whispers "help me" (you have to listen carefully to hear it). Then they discover the two corpses underwater...what the fuck is up with that?

[Haggisboy]

And more importantly, does anyone have any clue as to what is really happening on the island? Example (for those who haven't seen the first 12 episodes and don't want to know anything about it - stop reading here)

When Kate and Sawyer find the waterfall...just after Kate says something like "Sshh, did you hear that?" there is a very faint creepy voice that whispers "help me" (you have to listen carefully to hear it). Then they discover the two corpses underwater...what the fuck is up with that?

*****WARNING: SPOILERS AHEAD*******

My theory is that the island sits atop an undergound complex that was either built by some nefarious corporation or government, or aliens. They've already hinted at this by showing Locke and Boone discovering a metal hatch leading underground. In the show they've been heading off every day under the pretext of going hunting for boar, while in reality actually undertaking an as yet to be shown excavation of the door.

The young boy and his dog are also a key in this puzzle as the kid has the ability to cause things that he's thinking about to become real. Curiously, his dog always strays off when something really bad manifests itself. Just another oddity to think about.

The kid also found a comic book in the wreckage that, when they've shown bits of it, contains some direct parallels to the story. For example: the kid reads that in the comic's story there is a giant polar bear. Bingo - the party gets attacked twice by a polar bear, both times after the kid reads the comic. They also show a few panels from the comic that depict an island sitting atop a gigantic underwater bubble inside of which are aliens with gigantic brains...... just something else to think about.

In earlier episodes they established that Jack, the doctor in the group, was returning to the States from Australia after collecting the body of his deceased dad. He begins seeing what he thinks are visions of his dad walking about the island. Are they visions, or has his dad been brought back somehow? They leave you dangling on this one when Jack discovers his dad's closed casket in the wreckage near the cave, only to open it and find it empty.

Also, the island either moves, or emits some sort of force field (my theories) that perhaps led to the plane crash as the survivors have already noticed their compasses behaving strangely and observed certain stars in the night sky not being in the right places.

This is clearly one of the very best television shows ever aired. The writing is superb. It's already been renewed for a second season.

[thingy]

And more importantly, does anyone have any clue as to what is really happening on the island? Example (for those who haven't seen the first 12 episodes and don't want to know anything about it - stop reading here)
*** Spoiler warning! Do not read if you haven't seen up to Episode 14! ***

I have quite a few theories on what is going on, most of them are just me being stupid, but here goes. Most are somewhat taken from this (http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2004-10-20) Penny Arcade strip.

In the first two episodes, when the invisible monster/dinosaur attacks, you see the dog shortly before and/or after watching from a distance. The dog IS the dinosaur, it's a shape-shifter! This doesn't explain the polar bear, so then later on after you discover Claire seeing the psychic, I came up with a new theory.

The psychic is Professor Dumbledore, the black kid is Voldemort, and Claire's son is Harry Potter!

Then I decided to get serious on my theories. They crash land on this island. Weird stuff like the Polar Bears when the kid reads his comic, the 3 storey high invisible monster (it's been so close to so many of them, it has disturbed trees in ways you should have been able to see it, it HAS to be invisible) plus how it kills people and then dumps their dead maimed bodies uneaten, the wheelchair guy (Great White Hunter as we call him) suddenly walking again (miraculous) and becoming the expert hunter/tracker he had always dreamed of being, Saeed(sp?) going for a walk and stumbling on the cable & French chick, so many of them seeing things as though they are really there (the doc's father) but can only be explained by saying it's a hallucination, the doc stumbling across the caves etc etc etc. It all leads me down one path. The Forbidden Planet.

For those who haven't seen The Forbidden Planet (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049223/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj 0wfHE9Rm9yYmlkZGVuIFBsYW5ldHxodG1sPTF8bm09b24_;fc= 1;ft=20), let me explain. It's a sci-fi made in 1956. There is a science post on this planet, all communication from there stops. A party is sent out and discover only Dr Morbius and his daughter are still alive. Dr Morbius is very protective of his daughter. Suddenly monsters start attacking the party's base. They set up protective shields and defensive lasers. As the movie goes on, they communicate more with the doctor & his daughter, the attacks get stronger.

They eventually discover that the doc and his crew were researching this alien technology they found on the planet, he had sort of figured it out - it could read your mind and make your thoughts REAL. You think of a bowl of fruit, one appears. There was one thing he didn't count on though, the human subconscious, which he called Id. The machine also read human's Id, all their paranoia, subconscious thoughts were manifested - the doctors protectiveness for his daughter came out and became real (yet invisible) monsters who were attacking others that his Id saw as a threat to his daughter. He didn't want them attacking consciously as he knew they really weren't, and didn't want anyone to die (he wasn't a bastard, he was actually a nice guy), but could not consciously stop them, his unconscious was too strong - they killed his crew and were now attacking the rescue party.

The Island in lost, similar thing - except its affect is stronger on younger minds such as the black kid, and more dangerously to everyone on the island - Claire's child. The French chick could just be a manifestation of the survivors subconscious, or she could be real, with her being the Dr Morbius, and very protective of her son.

[Chrissy]

I have nothing to add. I don't understand what the fuck is going on, but d'you know what? I fuckin' love this show!!

I have just watched episodes 13 & 14 and discovered that episode 15 isn't aired until 7 February....7 FEBRUARY! How depressing, but exciting, but depressing!

[Enos]

I have nothing to add. I don't understand what the fuck is going on, but d'you know what? I fuckin' love this show!!

I have just watched episodes 13 & 14 and discovered that episode 15 isn't aired until 7 February....7 FEBRUARY! How depressing, but exciting, but depressing!

Tell me about it. I'm like a junky on thursdays checking and rechecking the torrents for the next episode and then screaming in rage when they skip a week.

[batmanx2]

i'm lost

[Blink]

Sadly there is still too much to take in for me to form a definitive opinion on what is happening. I agree that there has to be some sort of consciousness or "something" controlling what is happening on the island. I am sure that the survivors aren't dead and in some sort of "purgatory", but as to what is really happening, I dunno.

Their own sub-conscious seem to play a part in what they see...but whether things are generated directly from their own minds or something else is "reading" their thoughts has yet to be seen...

[jefah]

*** Spoiler warning! Do not read if you haven't seen up to Episode 14! ***

discover Kate seeing the psychic,........, and Kate's son is Harry Potter...........everyone on the island - Kate's child.

the chick with the bun in the oven is Claire Littleton. Kate is the bad chick.


Oh! No ep this week (in the US) according to TVtome.

Oh! I heard they are adding a new ex Buffy writer. (co-ex prod David Fury is the Mustard guy from Once More With Feeling)

[BlueBoy]

Kate is the bad chick.
*SPOILERIFIC*
That brings up an interesting point.

I don't think any of them are bad or evil. There are two people on the island who I'd consider purely good: Walt and Claire's unborn child. These two characters seem to be having the biggest effect on the island rather than the island having an effect on them like the others. Walt can 'make things happen' while Claire was abducted by the others because of the child. We're yet to see the significance of this event (and the Black Rock) though.

[jefah]

More spoiler stuff

Another way to look at Claire's unborn is that it is pure evil and the others want control of this evil. Or you could be right and the child would only become “blurry thing” if raised by the others.

Too many mysteries…. I’m confused.

[BlueBoy]

So, what did everyone think?

[ajcrowley]

pretty good, something different to the usual

[BtrFly]

i love it anyway. i am still trying to d/l ep 14 though!

[Blink]

i love it anyway. i am still trying to d/l ep 14 though!

Picking up 13 & 14 from a mate tomorrow. He's withholding them until I help him build his retaining wall tomorrow...bastard.

[FuncowK]

I've only seen the first episode and all your posts make me a very confused panda.

[ajcrowley]

i know people hate seven but from someone in the industry trust me when i say nine are the biggest bunch of bastards going so its nice to see them stuffed for a change(not all at nine, mostly packer).
below is the crikey report, i would show the oztam info but i signed stuff to say i would not do that kinda thing


10. Seven does it again with Lost


Terry Television reports:


Nine and Ten were Lost on Thursday night, after ending up on the wrong side of a quintet of Desperate Housewives on Monday night, and the Seven Network blew away its opposition when Lost, the air crash melodrama, premiered and attracted more than 2.3 million viewers, well above the Network's wildest hopes.

In the process the Nine Network was hurt badly, dropping to third place, as ER, one of the network's long-running strong programs, failed to put a dent in the opposition. Ten managed to sneak into second, thanks to the return of Law and Order: Special Victims Unit and the new series, Medical Investigations.

Seven had six of the top ten programs (a first for any night, let alone Thursday night, which last year was its weakest).

But it wasn't only Lost. The second series of My Restaurant Rules (with Dicko from Idol) won its 7.30pm slot easily, Today Tonight won over A Current Affair, Home and Away continued to do well and Seven News and TT won in Sydney. As well, episode two of the new series of The Amazing Race finished second nationally for Seven.

All in all one of Seven's most comprehensive nights, even more than Monday night.

Network executives had said they would have been happy with a 1.5 to 1.8 million audience for Lost (which would have been champagne time) But when the Oztam ratings rumbled out of computers, printers and the like in Teleland around Australia this morning between 8.30am and 9am, they showed that Lost had attracted 2.345 million people and was easily the top rating program in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth.

Just like Desperate Housewives.

In fact the parallels with the performance on Monday night of Desperate Housewives are a bit eerie. Both were extensively promoted in the Australian Open tennis telecast by Seven in a particularly skilful way, and that paid off with perhaps two million viewers watching TV over the two nights. And both got huge audiences.
Seven won the night with a 34.6% share, to Ten with 24.3%, Nine third with 21.3%, the ABC on a good 15.0% and SBS on 4.8%. On Monday night, with a bigger audience watching, Seven won with a 32.7% share to Nine's 28.9%. So on a night with a smaller audience, Seven took a bigger share and left its two commercial rivals in its wake.

The result means Seven will win the week, despite Nine having the first One Day International final today.

A promising result for Ten was the good outing by its new US series, Medical Investigations, which came in third with 1.353 million people, just ahead of a new series start for Law and Order: SVU. That made for a good combination between 8.30pm and 10.30pm for Ten and helped push Nine into third place overall.

But Medical Investigations was still beaten by Seven's Amazing Race.

The best for Nine was the News which ended up 5th overall with 1.33 million people. But the loss in Sydney to Seven will take the gloss off that result. Seven News was 8th with 1.239 million and Today Tonight was 7th with 1.266 million. ACA was 12th with 1.129 million viewers. Nine's audience dropped more than 200,000 people from Nine News to ACA, another large loss, a factor which has hurt the network this week. There was a 27,000 turn-on from Seven News to Today Tonight, but then a drop to Home and Away which finished 10th on 1.217 million people.

After audiences above one million people for the News, ACA and Frasier at 7pm, Nine suffered. Viewer numbers picked up to 971,000 for ER, but didn't make it back over a million for the rest of the night. Between 9.20 and 10pm Nine finished 4th with Extreme Makeover, beaten by the ABC.

Lost puts Nine execs in a spin


By Terry Television

Nine executives held an emergency meeting Friday morning to discuss the Network’s bad showing Thursday night. CEO David Gyngell convened a meeting of programming and production executives on the third floor at Willoughby after Nine finished third behind Ten and a rampant Seven Network, whose second US program, Lost, turned into the network’s second blockbuster of the week.

The meeting came 12 hours after what will turn out to be the most important week in TV this year and possibly the most important night after the debut of Lost on Thursday night.

I know people will argue it's only a week or a night, but as in so many things in life momentum, when it is matched with skill, cleverness and some tenacity, changes the dynamics in business, sport and politics. So too in TV, especially commercial television in Australia.

But no TV Network in Australia has premiered two new programs in a week to audiences well in excess of an average of 2.3 million viewers! Of course they won’t keep those figures, but Desperate Housewives and Lost will provide a base for Seven to build a much more confident assault on Nine and Ten this year.

Read the full story on the site here: http://www.crikey.com.au/media/2005/02/04-0003.html

[gooey]

So, what did everyone think?

i thought it was boring

[hazza]

just watched up to episode 6, its good.


the black dude is mercuito from romeo + juliet, and whenever he has a scene i start thinking 'young hearts... run free.'

[ajcrowley]

i thought it was boring

each to their own

[hazza]

omggg just watched up to 13


i love this show



SPOILER THINGO

wats the deal with the two dead bodies they find in the cave? the 'adam and eve' they christen the, and why does he find the two stones, light and dark he calls them, not black and white.

[jambo]

Just watched up to ep 15. Loving it so far, apart from Kate's longing looks... they piss me off.

[jefah]

I have ep 15 on a disk, contemplating putting it on in the boardroom.

[Willcow]

i thought it was boring

I'm with you dude. I found it very boring indeed

[Up_All_Night]

anyone know good places to download this, i cant find any torrents that work, or they are too slow to be worth while..

[SOC]

I'm in the same boat ... wanna download it NOW!!!

[BlueBoy]

anyone know good places to download this, i cant find any torrents that work, or they are too slow to be worth while..
I'm hitting http://www.torrentspy.com for all my eps.

Sweet jesus, episode 15 was a thing a beauty.

[hazza]

15 was lame, wtf is up with kate though, first they made it like the arab, jack and sawyer like her, now she likes sawyer and jacks cut? wtf

[Up_All_Night]

thats where ive got alot of them, they are all really slow or ill get abit then it just uploads that.. alot dont work

[Up_All_Night]

downloading most recent episodes now, cause they work.. and dont want this problem to happen when i get around to being up to watching them.

btw kimmy kimmel live on the set of lost is the fastest torrent i got going at the moment.. wtf

[108]

Did anyone else catch the "The Office" reference in ep15?

[jammin]

http://www.mininova.org/ - Go to "tv shows", then "lost".

At the time of writing there's a 3.75gig torrent of episode 1-11 in one pack with 45 seeds, and all of the episodes seperately with multiple seeds. All of them are hdtv rips too.

EDIT: just as a heads-up, I downloaded the 3.75gig pack and a few of the episodes have french subs at the bottom which get quite annoying, so I'd recommend downloading the episodes seperately.

[Chrissy]

anyone know good places to download this, i cant find any torrents that work, or they are too slow to be worth while..

Assuming you have Azureus (http://azureus.sourceforge.net/) software, you can usually get episodes of Lost from Iso hunt (http://isohunt.com/)

That's where we get ours from anyway.

Edit: Also meant to say that we got Episode 15 down in 1hr 15mins yesterday, we've just watched it and the quality is excellent, no subtitles or anything!

[Chrissy]

Did anyone else catch the "The Office" reference in ep15?

Hehe, thought I was the only one! Had a little WTF moment when Lucy said it though, I honestly thought it must have been coincidence!

[jambo]

Assuming you have Azureus (http://azureus.sourceforge.net/) software, you can usually get episodes of Lost from Iso hunt (http://isohunt.com/)

That's where we get ours from anyway.

...because Azureus is the only BitTorrent client?

[Chrissy]

...because Azureus is the only BitTorrent client?

I have no idea. It's just what I use. Just trying to be helpful...

[jambo]

I have no idea. It's just what I use. Just trying to be helpful...

Fair enough. For the 'The Ultimate P2P Client', download Shareaza (http://www.shareaza.com/).

[Up_All_Night]

Fair enough. For the 'The Ultimate P2P Client', download Shareaza (http://www.shareaza.com/).


so is that shareaza all cool?
Im hesitant about those sorts of programs these days, dont use em at all, but if its sweet would be grand

[Afro88]

I've been downloading and watching the series this week, just finished ep15, and all I can say is wow. This show is really good. Best show I've seen in a while.

SPOILERS




I've been thinking about the island, and about thingy's idea of the "Forbidden Planet" plotline. At first I thought "that has to be it", cause it certainly makes sense, but there are a few holes.

For example, Walt. When you see into Walt and his dad's life, you see that his step dad is scared of him, saying he's "different somehow" and stuff. You see the bird drop dead at the window, the same bird that Walt is looking at in the book. So weird lucky/coincidental shit is happening to Walt anyway, and it's not the island making that stuff happen. I agree that there's definitely a connection between Walt, the comic and the polar bears though.

Also, with Locke, he's refered to as "colonel" on the phone and in person at his work (except by his wanker boss). He was going to Australia to be part of some outback survival trek/walkabout thing, so obviously he would have read up on/practiced some stuff, especially knife throwing etc. if he has all those knives with him.

Jack saw his dad because he hadn't had any sleep and he'd only just found out he'd died a few days before the crash. People who lose people close to them see them around the place until they grieve properly.

I could go on, but basically these people are fulfilling these roles and experiencing these things because that's who they are. Naturally the show is going to tell you about details of everyone's lives relevant to what's happening on the island. I just think it would be a cop out for the show to just go "oh, there's this rock thing in an underground complex that creates your deepest fears/desires, so that explains why everything happened". It's plausible, but I know I'd be a bit dissapointed if that's what's behind it all.

That said, I've got no idea what's going on on the island. I agree it could be an underground complex of some sort, hence compass distortion, the plane crash etc. Actually, how the hell did the plane snap in half before it crashed anyway?

[Afro88]

so is that shareaza all cool?
Im hesitant about those sorts of programs these days, dont use em at all, but if its sweet would be grand

IMHO it's the best. No spyware etc., open source and it does edonkey and gnutella (limewire) as well as torrents :cool:.

I d/l my ep's from torrents on torrentspy.com. Some of the popular torrents are a bit slow at first. If it doesn't work for you, try the ones with only 10-50 seeders, they went pretty quick for me.

[BlueBoy]

Also, with Locke, he's refered to as "colonel" on the phone and in person at his work (except by his wanker boss). He was going to Australia to be part of some outback survival trek/walkabout thing, so obviously he would have read up on/practiced some stuff, especially knife throwing etc. if he has all those knives with him.

Not a lot of people picked up that he was only crippled for the last 4 years. Apart from the Boy Scout thing, we don't really know what he was into before that.

[Afro88]

Not a lot of people picked up that he was only crippled for the last 4 years. Apart from the Boy Scout thing, we don't really know what he was into before that.

That's true. He seems to enjoy hiding it too, with the whole "I worked for a box factory" thing when he's talking to Boon. Also, even though he's helping alot of people out, I can't help but think he somehow knows alot more about the island/crash than he's letting on... He seems to really understand the place a whole lot better than anyone else...

[Up_All_Night]

irc, the way to go, no probs.. but ah gotta wait until later when off peak downloading

[thingy]

That's true. He seems to enjoy hiding it too, with the whole "I worked for a box factory" thing when he's talking to Boon. Also, even though he's helping alot of people out, I can't help but think he somehow knows alot more about the island/crash than he's letting on... He seems to really understand the place a whole lot better than anyone else...
I thought the fact that he was a cripple and no longer is, and is finally actually achieving rather than just dreaming goes a long way to explaining why he tends to know more - he knows the island has an affect on people that isn't natural. He's realised they need to search out their goals, on this island people can accomplish more than they would otherwise be able to.

[Afro88]

I thought the fact that he was a cripple and no longer is, and is finally actually achieving rather than just dreaming goes a long way to explaining why he tends to know more - he knows the island has an affect on people that isn't natural. He's realised they need to search out their goals, on this island people can accomplish more than they would otherwise be able to.

*more spoilers*

Hmmm, you've got a point there. How else could he tie up Boon with no fear of him getting killed? Ethan being practically superhuman to get Claire. Jack reviving the Brittish dude even after he'd tried and stopped (similar to how he tried to save the guy on the operating table) and then starts up after having a cry and bang, he's alive. The Brittish dude's heroin withdrawl doesn't seem that bad at all compared to what I've heard and what I've seen in Trainspotting. Even Boon's sister/gf :barf: seems much hotter on the island than in the "before the crash" scenes. See, it could just be written this way to make the show more dramatic, but something tells me it's quite deliberate.

I think you may be onto something thingy....

[thingy]

That's just a not-so-extreme version of the Forbidden Planet theory.

[Glompbot]

he's not using heroin
its cocaine.

[Afro88]

he's not using heroin
its cocaine.

What makes you say that? I always assumed it was heroin because he doesn't go bouncing off the walls and get all chatty and full of himself when he has it, he zones out for a bit then walks back to the group all chilled out. He rubs it on his gums too instead of snorting it. That and it's brown, not white.

Oh and thingy, that's right. I guess I got a little carried away in that initial post. The toned down version is much more plausible. Like I said above, I think you may be on the money with that explaination of the island.

[Glompbot]

he's an addict... they don't generally go bouncing off the walls.... they generally become chilled out...

you rub cocaine on your gums... not as good as snorting, but it does the job.


also, i've never seen white cocaine in my life. Whiteish... but not white.



Also, his name is charlie, not the brit guy :P

[Afro88]

Also, his name is charlie, not the brit guy :P

That's the one! Hehe

As for cocaine/heroin, it's tv/movie drugs. Cocaine is white, heroin is brown, otherwise it's too confusing for the general population who know nothing about drugs. And why would you not snort cocaine? Heroin's not made/cut for snorting. Also, doesn't Jack say it's heroin when he gives Charlie the asprin? I could have sworn he does...

[hazza]

its heroine.

he says that hes a heroine addict at some point, also yeah it is brown.

[Glompbot]

Ah

see, i originally thought it was heroin too... and thought it apt his name was charlie
but a friend convinced me otherwise.

i'm just meh about it :D

[Cpt Jellybean]

It's Herion!!

"Better than any fucking meat injection!!!"

[Up_All_Night]

there's something to this show, kinda addictive, but stupid aussie bandwidth, have to download in off peak times.. up late all night.. wanna just get final few eps needed to be able watch the show when i want.. but at least staying up watching them on TV while comp downloads the buggers..


*theory* *spoilers maybe*


Only watched up to 6, but been thinking
what if they are all really dead, and they have to learn and change things in their life that need to be changed before they can reach the afterlife. Hot girl... fuck is she hot, kate... get past her troubled past... druggie, get off drugs... hunter dude...he's having his idea of heaven, able to do all the things he's been reading wanting to do his whole life... that dude with the son, bonding with his son... hottie blond, stop being selfish.. etc.. i dunno just thinking.. dont like this idea that much... who knows what itll be.. and what else there is to it. But i get the feeling we wont know soon, as what first seasons first 40days? so i guess that means theyll be there alot longer and for a few seasons worth maybe??? sorry if my thoughts been posted, aint read anyone elses until i get up to speed

[jambo]

there's something to this show, kinda addictive, but stupid aussie bandwidth, have to download in off peak times.. up late all night.. wanna just get final few eps needed to be able watch the show when i want.. but at least staying up watching them on TV while comp downloads the buggers..


*theory* *spoilers maybe*


Only watched up to 6, but been thinking
what if they are all really dead, and they have to learn and change things in their life that need to be changed before they can reach the afterlife. Hot girl... fuck is she hot, kate... get past her troubled past... druggie, get off drugs... hunter dude...he's having his idea of heaven, able to do all the things he's been reading wanting to do his whole life... that dude with the son, bonding with his son... hottie blond, stop being selfish.. etc.. i dunno just thinking.. dont like this idea that much... who knows what itll be.. and what else there is to it. But i get the feeling we wont know soon, as what first seasons first 40days? so i guess that means theyll be there alot longer and for a few seasons worth maybe??? sorry if my thoughts been posted, aint read anyone elses until i get up to speed

If they were in limbo the others from the plane would be there.

Anyway, that plot would suck.

[Up_All_Night]

i know it would suck.. but unfinished business, i think tehy are cleverer than that though

[BlueBoy]

Well Charlie's off the drugs now, shouldn't he have moved on if this was the case?

[thingy]

He's also been constantly screwed over and used. He needs to achieve something for himself, and I think that's where Claire comes in to it. He's done stage one of being strong and doing something for himself.

[jefah]

spoiler
I'm starting to think that there is nothing supernatural at all. im not willing to offer any explanation at this time.

One thing though, Boon seems to be the most effected by the island. He was a rich boy softy (he even ran a bridal shop) who has gone wild/bush. Lock was always into this stuff and for all we know was living of the land until he had an accident 4 years ago.

The rest just seem to be the person they were or once were (Charlie) or living a lie (Kate).

[Sinwah]

Theres tons of weird theories floating around on the net if you read up about them.
SPOILERS (perhaps):





A few are 1) they are on mars ? (WTF)
2) It's a huge setup (reality TV show kind of thing)
3) island of dr. muroe thing of thing
4) limbo/afterlife

[Blink]

Well I wouldn't mind being stuck on an island with Shannon and Kate...although knowing my luck they'd probably decide to shack up with each other...

Which would still be ok as long as they let me watch :)

[Blink]

A few are 1) they are on mars ? (WTF)
2) It's a huge setup (reality TV show kind of thing)
3) island of dr. muroe thing of thing
4) limbo/afterlife

*SPOILERS BELOW*

Reality TV show? Interesting idea except I don't think that Ethan's death was faked.

Island of Dr Moreau? This is sort of the way I am leaning, with an individual or group (human or alien) controlling the island. If you remember Walt's comic book, it showed an alien in a few scenes. Also, where does that hatch lead? Thick steel, glass viewing window that won't break - it's obviously not something that's fallen out of the sky. My guess, leads to some sort of base used by whoever is controlling things on the island...

Limbo / Afterlife? Nah, plus I'm pretty sure the writers have stated that the people who survived the crash are alive and not dead...

[muga]

I'm up to episode 9 so far - fucking great show!
I can't stop watching them.. argh!

[thingy]

Sinwah, most of those theories are fucking stupid. The island of Dr Muroe one is the only half decent one of the lot. I don't know which sites you got them from, but I would hazzard a guess at saying either these people have no clue what so ever, or they're just shooting off random explinations irrelivant of any plausibility* possibly without even having seen the show.

(* Plausibility of science fiction and relevance, that is).

[Sinwah]

Theories 1, 2 and 4 were out of America's TV Guide in an article a friend sent to me, theory 3 seemed kind of obvious as I thought of it and have seen several similar theories around.

[Up_All_Night]

finally downlaoded everything up to 15!

IRC all the way, bt was so shit

[defjux]

I think it could be like a bermuda triangle thing where like the eletromagnetic feilds bend and invent creating a vortex or something and the plane goes in and disapears from our world but ends up in a world like ours but slightly different kind of like that sliders show that use to be on fox years ago. but that would explain all the weird stuff like the polar bears and the french womans signal never getting picked up by anybody. Does anybody know when that french womans plane crashed, cause i have a feeling that they are gonna make it to where no one ages or the people take twice as long to age on the island.

[Sinwah]

SLIDERS ROCKED....at least until they added those shitty aliens, Kromaggs (I think), and getting rid of Wade and replacing Quinn's actor (or rather him getting fed up and leaving)

And I can't believe Gimli is Professor Auturo.

Also, Claire (Emilie de Ravin) is WAAAAAAAY better than Kate, who I hope dies of a polar bear to the head. Claire is a STBMILF (Soon to be MILF), no wonder


SPOILER



Ethan abducted her and had his way several times :P

[Up_All_Night]

The kid also found a comic book in the wreckage that, when they've shown bits of it, contains some direct parallels to the story. For example: the kid reads that in the comic's story there is a giant polar bear. Bingo - the party gets attacked twice by a polar bear, both times after the kid reads the comic. They also show a few panels from the comic that depict an island sitting atop a gigantic underwater bubble inside of which are aliens with gigantic brains...... just something else to think about.

In earlier episodes they established that Jack, the doctor in the group, was returning to the States from Australia after collecting the body of his deceased dad. He begins seeing what he thinks are visions of his dad walking about the island. Are they visions, or has his dad been brought back somehow? They leave you dangling on this one when Jack discovers his dad's closed casket in the wreckage near the cave, only to open it and find it empty.

Also, the island either moves, or emits some sort of force field (my theories) that perhaps led to the plane crash as the survivors have already noticed their compasses behaving strangely and observed certain stars in the night sky not being in the right places.

the whole thing with the boy reading the comic book and that happening on the island, doesnt explain the bears were there before they were on the island. The French chick from babylon 5, she knew there were bears on the island, mustnt be something new to when they got on the island. I dont believe Sayid imagined her, as he had the maps and shit as proof he met her.

unanswered question about her, Sayid finds that cable on the beach, follows it to her trap... when he's in her hut thing, he looks at the batteries and says its not enough to send the transmission. She said she sent that from somewhere else... So that cable didnt run to her place obviously.. just through her trap, that needs to be explored. Where did that go?

if it was some alien base, or whatever why'd they need a big power/telecommunications tower running along the surface? kinda shows its man.. back in days before stellite communications?


something else, where was the plane heading in the first place? I swear in the show they've said LA but also singapore... Some have said they were going singapore.. but it was going LA

french chick said 3 days out of tahiti on boat.. french did all sorts of weapons testing in french polynesia... also americans did lots of testing in pacific island, Bikini attol and so forth, what if its part of some old experiment that went nuts, enough time for visible parts of complex to be covered? Door? part of underground bunkers during weapons tests, animals brought there to test the affects on a large mamal. Some horrible accident, islands classified, hence why no one knows about it..


When Kate and Sawyer find the waterfall...just after Kate says something like "Sshh, did you hear that?" there is a very faint creepy voice that whispers "help me" (you have to listen carefully to hear it).

thats freakin cool, didnt notice that until i read that and relistened... the starting of hearing the others around them??



maybe the islands alive, the monster being invisible, the island trying to scare them, being alive it can make noises move tree's...... side note anyone remember that started off promising.. went to complete crap in no time sci-fi series about the planet that was alive.. earth 2 or something.. what ever happened to that?


one thing though i have to admit, is good but also shitting.. apparently they want to make this thing for many years, 8 or more even... bad idea.. love the show, but they need to define the length of the story arc, not extend it, cause that always leads to shows going downhill when they drag on too long with little developement slowing up. Make a few more years, then boom a movie to wrap it up

[muga]

IRC all the way, bt was so shit
I used BT all downloaded at my max speed, perhaps you don't have it setup right? I use BitComet (www.bitcomet.com) then the only setting I change is max allowed connections to 60. Otherwise my router becomes sluggish when 100+ people connect to me and vise versa.

[Up_All_Night]

I used BT all downloaded at my max speed, perhaps you don't have it setup right? I use BitComet (www.bitcomet.com) then the only setting I change is max allowed connections to 60. Otherwise my router becomes sluggish when 100+ people connect to me and vise versa.

maybe.... ill check it, i just have basic bit torrent installed.. works fast though for alot of things.

[defjux]

Now that i think about it i know what that bunker thing is, its where the rum runners store the rum and where Captain Jack Sparrow gets shitfaced whenever theres a mutiny by his crew of the black pearl (side note me and Johnny Depp are from the same small town in Kentucky)

[BlueBoy]

Well TorrentSpy isn't updating. Off to find a new BT source.

[Afro88]

Me too. IRCSpy isn't showing it either :mad:

Edit: It's on torrent spy now :)

[Afro88]

Well, can't say that was the best episode of Lost I've seen. The "never never" part was pretty lame, but I spose that's just because it reminded me of drunken yr12 parties, hehehe. But there were a few interesting twists in Sawyer's story.

[jefah]

But there were a few interesting twists in Sawyer's story.

And one very interesting Sawyer Jack connection.

[Glompbot]

Could you guys specify WHICH episoide?
I'm up to 15, but I'm not sure what one you're referring to.

[BlueBoy]

They'll be talking about 16.

[BtrFly]

i am having trouble with my bittorrent tracker :( i cant download anything :(

[Afro88]

*possible spoiler*

Regarding 16, when Sawyer was talking to Jack at the end, I was like "come on, tell him, tell him!" (I was in the mood for a Lost "beautiful moment" complete with music and all) but no, typical Sawyer has to keep it to himself to bribe Jack later. Should make things interesting...

[Sinwah]

I was starting to have my doubts about lost at about episode 12, but the last two eps have made it good again. Doesn't take much to impress me.

[Up_All_Night]

i find the show last few eps kinda slowed in developement, ep 16.. really nothing to go.. oh whats that... gotta watch next ep..

i had an idea about the show, a fucking epic great one about what sums it up, but i went out to anti-flag got pissed and cant remember, not good.. but i remember it making a shit load of sense

[gunsella]

whew! 15 episodes in 8 days. i'm losted out, and LOVING it.
these folks really know how to write suspense.
as far as theories go, i'm with up_all_night and the idea of the island being some sort of old testing ground.
i can't really elaborate on that, coz i got nfi.

how do we know that locke was only crippled for four years?

SPOILER

fuck i wanted to hit horsie*... i mean charlie, when he shot ethan. such a selfish act, all so he could fulfil his mission/life goal


*horse = slang for heroin, in asmuch as charlie is slang for coke. haha.

[jefah]

how do we know that locke was only crippled for four years?

while he is in the rangers office locke said something about dealing with it for the last four years.

[jammin]

Episode 4... Locke in the ranger's office: "My condition is not an issue, I've lived with it for four years and it's never kept me from doing anything".

jefah is right. :)

[gunsella]

thanks folks.

while we're on it, do y'all know which ep it was in which we hear 'help me' just before kate and sawyer (what's with no first name, btw?) retrieve the case from underwater?
i couldn't be arsed trawling through 615 minutes of TV to find this one moment.

[Sinwah]

Sawyer has no first name cos he takes the name of the guy who slept with his mum and took his fathers money before his father killed himself and little Sawyers mum.

MINI SPOILER

Though he claims his first name is James in ep 16 [27:48]

[jammin]

thanks folks.

while we're on it, do y'all know which ep it was in which we hear 'help me' just before kate and sawyer (what's with no first name, btw?) retrieve the case from underwater?
i couldn't be arsed trawling through 615 minutes of TV to find this one moment.

They find the case in episode 12 methinks.

[imp]

I didn't read any of the posts.. well ok a couple but so many spoiler sna di only just finished watching the first 4 eps I downloaded. It's fantastic. The bit with the transmission that's been going for 16yrs creeped me out so much ;)

I know I'm far behind you all but so far i'm really enjoying it and look forward to the rest. I have loads of them coming down on BT now :)

What ep is the aired season up to?

[BlueBoy]

They'll be showing episode 4 on Thursday I think.

[jefah]

and 17 in the US (this week)

[imp]

and 17 in the US (this week)
Fantastic thanks guys. I'll get right onto getting ep. 17 as I'll have 1 - 16 after I get back from the ZUnit tonight

[gunsella]

i watched 17 last night.

hasn't the T-1000 (robert patrick) aged since T2.

[jefah]

Fantastic thanks guys. I'll get right onto getting ep. 17 as I'll have 1 - 16 after I get back from the ZUnit tonight
17 will be BTed some time on thursday this week. (is BTed the right term? looks like Big Ted's homie name)

[gunsella]

nnn.mmm.gggg..afkjhdf;

hands shaking....

must have new episode.....

sdfhbfgj

[Sinwah]

and its out! leech1!!!!

[gunsella]

leechin'

[imp]

*opens Azureus* :D
Sweet i'm downloading a piece from Estonia. Thanks to Pinger for showing me this cool Azureus plug-in :p

[Sinwah]

Just watched it, very cool.



EPISDOE 17 SPOILERS



Some weird little things:
In Jin's flashback in the secretary's house, Hurley (the fat guy) is on Korean TV getting into a car. (about 15 minutes into it)

Hurley's cd player should have run out waaay before it did. They've been on the island, what? 2 months now, 2 AA batteries wouldn't last that long and I'm sure they'd save any extras for proper needs. Though I did laugh my ass off because I was thinking right when it ran out "shouldn't those batteries be dead by now?"

Classic quote from Sawyer: "It's Lord of the Flies time now" *brandishing a knife*

I had all these guesses of who set the boat on fire, Walt was one of them but I didn't think he would. I thought maybe Boone cos hes crazy or Locke cos he loves the island.

I have so much empathy for Sun, she has so much shit happen to her, and the woman who plays her is an awesome actor, both in her native Korean and in English. Props to her for doing a great job (plus shes hot).

Also, Hurley, what the fuck is with Hurley. The writers of the show are obviously keeping his backstory quiet for some reason, so it should be interesting. Perhaps he is the giant monster (cos he can shake the ground when he walks), plus him being on Korean TV was kinda sus.

By the way, Claire is hot hot hot. (even with a baby :\)

[gunsella]

still leachin.. guess i'll have to wait until tomorrow. :(

[thingy]

I'll have to get a copy off Imp seeing as we're on dialup for the time being, and BT is blocked at work. :(

[Afro88]

Ok well that was an excellent episode.

*spoilers*



Fave parts:

- fight scene where you hear how Jin would hear English, and his wife giving away that she speaks it. w00t, now she can wear bikini's and shit :D
- Locke and Walt. Fully didn't see that coming. Funny how they both have a strong connection with the island and both don't want to leave. Also funny how Locke describes to Shannon that everyone gets a new life on the island...
- Sayeed and Shannon is pretty funny. He's doing alright for himself, hehehe.
- the end with Hurley (and seeing him on the TV in Jin's flashback), batteries going flat was pretty funny (I was thinking the same thing Sinwah). But what cracked me up was how both him and Claire's body shapes are silhouetted and he looks over at Claire, and then looks down at himself and sort of goes "damn".

I'm thinking the next episode will be about Hurley, and his starting a new life will be losing weight.

[Up_All_Night]

ah... its being so slow, well not slow but nto fast enough i wanted to watch before i go got pissed tonight

[Sinwah]

Hurley is evil I tells ya. He'll be in cahootz with the French woman.

[BlueBoy]

Anyone read Korean?
There was some Korean subtitles on the TV screen that showed Hurley.

[Sinwah]

Translates to "Fat man wins pie eating contest!", or so my understandng goes

[Edit : Joking]

[jefah]

Anyone read Korean?
There was some Korean subtitles on the TV screen that showed Hurley.

I have a translation but I warn you it's a huge fucking Spoiler (so it's in grey)

"the winner of the fortune(lottery), Los Angelos, California"

[DeathRow]

Heres Hurley in Episode 18

http://www.lost-tv.com/pictures/albums/1x18%20numbers/normal_01x18_numbers_06.jpg
http://www.lost-tv.com/pictures/albums/1x18%20numbers/normal_01x18_numbers_01.jpg
http://www.lost-tv.com/pictures/albums/1x18%20numbers/normal_01x18_numbers_03.jpg

Guess He still lives with his mum

[gunsella]

nah that's his older sister.

he ate his mum.

[Up_All_Night]

Now why would he have been on Korean TV?
Maybe he was there to buy a mail order bride and got busted
just saying cause he seemed a bit lonely looking at everyone else on the beach at the end of 17

[Sinwah]

He wants some hot Claire action, so he plans to kill Charlie

[Blink]

He wants some hot Claire action, so he plans to kill Charlie

Maybe he has a fetish for heavily pregnant women? :)

[Blink]

I just finished watching ...In Translation, the latest episode. I can see why Jin wants Sun to keep covered up. Did you see those abs?

[Sinwah]

Maybe he has a fetish for heavily pregnant women? :)

If its Emilie de Ravin, God knows I do.

[Up_All_Night]

Just watched 18
Quite pleased with that Episode, it was good

"Maybe its a pissed of Giraffe"





a thought that crossed my mind, not related to this episode. Rousseau said they took her son Alex, wanted her son back, and Ethan wanted Claire's baby, said he needed it or something, what if he wanted to sacrifice it, to end the curse of the island or some shit, and he did that with Alex. Sacrifice it to the black rock/ Something to do with children born to the island.. i dunno but yeah

[BlueBoy]

You could go the other way and say that the sacrifice of children are needed to keep up the island's "magic".

[imp]

TV tome says EP 18 aired on the second. Is this right? Anyone know when the torrent will be available? :)

I've watched all 17 episodes and I've got so many theories but it's so hard to tell how it'll all pan out or become relevant.

For some reason I have this idea in my head that Sawyer (or the guy who calls himself Sawyer) killed Jack's dad. Just the way he asks jack about him says more than that he just met him in a bar. If that makes sense.

Personaly I'm even considering the idea that this could just be one big reality TV show. I mean what's more real and entertaining than crashing people on an islnad, throwing a few polar bears in there watching how they survive?

I'm also not completely convinced that they're all there by accident. Each person I think is meant to be there on the island for some reason or another.

[Sinwah]

Episodes usually come out Thursdays (today?)

And yeah the reality TV show has feasability, however people dieing is kind of horrific considering its set in todays world.

[Afro88]

Yeah, people dying kinda rules out the reality tv thing. Remember Jack is a qualified doctor, and they actually bury the dead (one time digging up a grave several days later) so they can't really fake the deaths for the sake of a reality tv show.

[defjux]

i watched episode 18 about 8 hours ago and was wondering if anybody remembers the numbers from that episode? if anybody can post them that would be awesome.

[defjux]

Nevermind, i found them on another site.
4 8 15 16 23 42
oh and if anyone wants to know. The book Sawyer was reading was (A Wrinkle In Time)

[Afro88]

Did you get ep18 off a torrent? If so which one? The one I've got (from Torrentspy) is freaking slow :spingo:

edit: oh wait, you're from America, you probably saw it on TV. Damn. Anyone got a good torrent for ep18? Mine has thousands of sources but isn't even downloading :mad:

[defjux]

I read on a different site that its up on bit torrent right now (www.btefnet.com) I didn't get it off a torrent tho, where i live the new episodes air every wednesday at 7:00.

Edit: P.S. I never used torrents before and i don't know shit sbout them, thats just what i read on a different site so hope thats what you're lookng for.

[Afro88]

Thanks man. Unfortunately it's the same one I'm trying to download from.

[jefah]

The one I've got (from Torre Anyone got a good torrent for ep18? Mine has thousands of sources but isn't even downloading :mad:
tvtorrent.com

as far as 18 goes.....finally....something.....something...than k you hurlie, thank you.

[BlueBoy]

http://www.torrentspy.com has it.

[Afro88]

Torrent seems to be working now... Move along people, nothing to see here :o

[imp]

I have ep18 now. Can't wait to watch it tonight :D

[gunsella]

i just finished watching it. it's really good.

i like that locke fella, and the lovely gesture he makes for claire :)

hurley tho - still a cock!

[Afro88]

Just finished watching it. Another sterling episode. More pieces of the puzzle fall into place...

*spoilers*





So the numbers are bad luck. Locke seems to have enormously good luck on the island, as does Walt. Jack brings Charlie back to life after trying for ages and then stopping for a minute. Basically, whenever someone really tries to do something, luck is on their side, as has been stipulated earlier in this thread.

So maybe this "black rock" or whatever somehow compresses bad luck into a certain space, or into these certain numbers, so it can generate a field of good luck that can be easily tapped into. Perhaps this is what the island is about. The fact that Hurley tapped into these numbers to win the lottery, and is now cursed with bad luck caused the plane to split in half and crash when it came into the island's luck field or something. The same thing happened with the french chick's boat, they were all thinking about the numbers, following the signal when their boat shipwrecked. So this black rock generates a field of good luck, by channeling all bad luck into these numbers, making them cursed.

Everything bad that has happened on the island hasn't been an effect of chance, it has always been someone or some animal that has caused it. In fact, there has been no bad luck so to speak on the island. Boat is burned down, Walt did it. They're attacked by a polar bear, walt did it (presumably). Sayeed gets knocked out when he generates a proper signal, Locke did it (or someone). Ethan caused all the bad shit to happen around Claires baby on the island. Etc.

I also believe now after seeing this episode that all the people who survived the crash that the episodes focus on are there together for a reason. Luck (either good or bad) led to them surviving the plane crash together. Perhaps this good luck will lead them all to find the source and shut it down, put things back to normal, how they should be. This doesn't explain how Walt is different, or why Ethan wanted Claire's baby, but it explains a bit about why alot of people have been having good luck on the island, doing things they never could have done in the real world, and also might be a reason why this group survived the crash together and how they're all overcoming problems they had in the real world.

[defjux]

Heres a few things that really interested me about the last episode Numbers.
Locke worked for a box company well in the last episode hurley owned stock in a box company.in the numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42. if you havn't noticed yet, the number 815 has been appearing in alot of episodes, the flight number of the plane that crashed was 815, bank box that kate opened was nuber 815, boone wore a shirt with chinese characters that means 815, and i beleive theres a few other things that i can't think of right now. has for the number 42, the guy that hurley went to for help in the looney bin which is the guy that hurley got the number from, was playing connect four. connect four has 7 slots over and 6 lots down (7x6=42). 42 is also the number from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy from which all meaning ("the meaning of life, the universe, and everything") could be derived. 16 is how many years the french chick has been on the island(i believe). it also seems that alot of the stuff that happened to the main characters happened 4 years ago. as for the number 23 i have no idea, maybe its the number of people that were on the plane or maybe its the number of people that survived the crash at first. I been playing around with these nunbers all day and have come up with many suggestings. But most of them are just the numbers rearranged.

oh yeah and thats a pretty good theory afro88, i been thinking about it and the only thing i can think of that was bad luckon the island that wasn't caused by a human or and animal is the big freak waves that came in out of nowhere which caused the group to move up coast or into the caves. but then again thats kinda of like saying a bad storm hiting the island is bad luck.

[Sinwah]

42 people survived the crash, or the first week I think.

I had my reservations about Locke, thinking he was an evil mastermind, and I still think he may be, but that cradle was a nice thing for Claire, thinking about her and the baby while the rest of them panick over other recent occurances (boat fire, numbers, Ethan).

[Glompbot]

I like the numbers theory...
afro's is a bit far fetched...

[jefah]

48 survived the crash. When the woman drowned Jack said there were 47 left (I think)


Oh and it looks like Boone and Locke have been busy digging up the what-ever-it-is (looked a bit like a sub)

[gunsella]

Oh and it looks like Boone and Locke have been busy digging up the what-ever-it-is (looked a bit like a sub)

well they sure haven't been catching any boar - you saw hurley cooking his shirt!



(yeah, i know... just kidding!)

[hazza]

how long do u reckon its going to take for them to tell us wat the 'monster' is? how many more eps u reckon 19,20,21,22,23,24 ? or is there gonna be another season.


i love this show

[gunsella]

shows tend to be around 23 episodes per season these days. (gone are the days of a 6 season show - like fawlty towers)
i dunno if we're gonna find out about the monster any time soon.

also, i LOVe jefah's idea of it being a submarine.

fuck this is a great show.

[Chrissy]

Just a quick comment about the Australian woman in ep 18: Worst Australian accent....evar?! (and I'm British)

[Up_All_Night]

i found a pic of the thing dug up more on net a while ago.. it was just a big cylynder going down... dont know if it was them building the set or its that locke digs down around it... if it was them buiilding set and burrying it... because it went down a fair bit, we'll see them go in it...

[defjux]

i'm pretty sure that its gonna be 24 episodes this season but the 23 and the 24 one being put into one two hour long season finale. from what i've heard there gonna be at least 3 to 4 seasons.
WARNING SPOILER BELOW IN NAVY BLUE












One of the main characters will die and the hatch will also be opened before the end of this season.

[jefah]

No more lost untill the 13th of April. d'oh!

[thingy]

No more lost untill the 13th of April. d'oh!
You're fucking joking? Nnnnnooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! :(

Dammit, what were those numbers again? Maybe if we all use them we'll be able to figure out what's in the box!

Burns: So Mr Smith, you can have this lovely dishwasher and drier, or you can have what's in the box.
Nuclear Inspector: The box, THE BOX!

[Afro88]

:(

[hazza]

murf

[Up_All_Night]

that is so messed up

this is why i hate having to rely on tv networks to watch shows with continuing stories. so much better to wait for dvd.

even though downloading way ahead whats being show here, it just sucks

[thingy]

Hey, at least for once it's not just the Australian networks doing it. Those in the US finally get a taste for what it feels like to not be able to get cable in Australia!

[imp]

TV Tome has all the air dates for the episodes and some interesting information about ep 19.

www.tvtome.com

But yeah.. no more till April then back to once a week

[Up_All_Night]

awww man reading that thing about 19 makes me wanna watch it even more

[imp]

Totally

[gunsella]

this is not good. i am getting all fidgety, there are scratch marks on my arms.

I NEEED THE NEXT EPISODE!

[Fitty]

I downloaded eps 1 to 18 and watched them all today. I'm starting to feel like Charlie wanting 19.

[RedMaN]

Finally had to watch this show as I heard heaps of ppl raving about it. Got all the eps from a workmate (external HDs are my friend :D) and watched 15 eps in a row yesterday. I haven't had a chance to watch ep 18 yet, that's for tonite. I skipped some of the posts above so it wasn't ruined for me but I will post some thoughts when I have finished watching it. Lost ro><0rs *thumbs up*

[banga]

what if all the people on the show are actually dead ? heh how about that , and the show is so far just showing them come to terms with things that had happened to them ie: the doc and his dad , charlie and his addiction , blah blah ,,, what if its a sort of surreal halfway house , hey :banana: dead they all be dead :spingo:

[-=[BB]=-]

Well the tv execs would love that, they wouldnt have to pay them for it then :)

[Bifrost]

I believe thingy and Blink had the same thought in this thread (http://forums.zgeek.com/showthread.php?t=29159) (spoiler alert).

But apparently the writer has come out and said that they're not in purgatory. In fact it sounds suspiciously like it'll all be real and they were just on a whacky island. Sounds like a poo ending to me...But I don't know for sure, I haven't been hunting spoilers or anything...

[BlueBoy]

What if it was already discussed in this thread?: http://forums.zgeek.com/showthread.php?t=29159

[Up_All_Night]

there's no spoilers yet of what it is ive seen.
apparently they want the series going for 6-8 years... what the fuck???
no way they can keep it up that long, itll get like the x-files where shit just aint explained and never will be and its get shitty and you turn off. Also itll be hard with limited number of characters to keep it interesting, unless if it gets like Gilligans Island where everyone in the fucking world drops on by but then dont send anyone to help them

[ersatz]

I still think they're in a Bermuda-triangley place

[banga]

What if it was already discussed in this thread?: http://forums.zgeek.com/showthread.php?t=29159

fuck me you think i read every thread at zgeek , :confused:

[banga]

*SPOILERS BELOW*

Reality TV show? Interesting idea except I don't think that Ethan's death was faked.

Island of Dr Moreau? This is sort of the way I am leaning, with an individual or group (human or alien) controlling the island. If you remember Walt's comic book, it showed an alien in a few scenes. Also, where does that hatch lead? Thick steel, glass viewing window that won't break - it's obviously not something that's fallen out of the sky. My guess, leads to some sort of base used by whoever is controlling things on the island...

Limbo / Afterlife? Nah, plus I'm pretty sure the writers have stated that the people who survived the crash are alive and not dead...


ok im only watching this on tv in qld , what number episode are we up to now and when do we get to see this hatch ?

[banga]

why have channel seven taken lost off the air till april 23 as i have read ijn some other post here ?

[spurr]

why have channel seven taken lost off the air till april 23 as i have read ijn some other post here ?

The same reason (http://entertainment.news.com.au/story/0,10221,12558833-10229,00.html) all the channels use for gapping first run episodes of any show....it's a non-ratings period!

Although I really don't give a shit what Channel 7 do with Lost, I'm just pissed that the new episodes won't be released in the states until May :(

[Afro88]

The same reason (http://entertainment.news.com.au/story/0,10221,12558833-10229,00.html) all the channels use for gapping first run episodes of any show....it's a non-ratings period!

Although I really don't give a shit what Channel 7 do with Lost, I'm just pissed that the new episodes won't be released in the states until May :(
May? Check this out:

1-19 118 30-Mar-2005 Deux Ex Machina
1-20 119 06-Apr-2005 Do No Harm
S-1 120 27-Apr-2005 Lost Special Edition Episode
[from tvtome]

It's all good :cool:

[defjux]

yeah the new episodes resume march the 30th where i live too.

[thingy]

fuck me you think i read every thread at zgeek , :confused:
No but you could at least use the search function before starting a new thread. You managed to get the right forum, it couldn't have been that hard to look down the list of the 10 most recent threads.

[spurr]

May? Check this out:

1-19 118 30-Mar-2005 Deux Ex Machina
1-20 119 06-Apr-2005 Do No Harm
S-1 120 27-Apr-2005 Lost Special Edition Episode
[from tvtome]

It's all good :cool:

Well, that's a relief! Dunno, where I got the May idea from :confused:

[banga]

thingy go annoy someone else , and did taking rep off me make you fell important. i merly poted a small post that thought would be interesting and lo and behold the forum nazi comes along , why bother fuckin posting is what i reckon if this is all that happens ,

[Salted_Chipmunk]

what if all the people on the show are actually dead ? heh how about that , and the show is so far just showing them come to terms with things that had happened to them ie: the doc and his dad , charlie and his addiction , blah blah ,,, what if its a sort of surreal halfway house , hey :banana: dead they all be dead :spingo:

One of my friends thinks along the lines as you.

That is that there were no survivors, they are all really dead just stuck in the spirit world or something.

[gunsella]

where have the *'s gone from the thread title?

it used to be "Lost (*SPOILER ALERT*)" or something like that?
can we have a mod fix this please?

[defjux]

Well i saw the preview for the next new episode earlier tonight and it looks like its gonna be the best one yet! i can't wait til next week.

[banga]

thanks to the uber forum god who did wonderful things to my rep lol :1337:

[RedMaN]

Bring on the next episode already :swear:
Some interesting theories there guys... made me think alot about some aspects *thumbs up*

[Afro88]

Bring on the next episode already :swear:

Tomorrow night man :cool:

[BtrFly]

just watching ep 16 atm..... i got them off a girl at work today :D

[darns]

I've watched up to 12, but the theory is:

Everything hinges on the unborn baby. He could he the antichrist, or the 2nd coming. Now the Illuminati who's been hiding in an old abandoned military bunker planned this crash to make sure that they will watch over the growth of this important "man". Naturally being around such a being, even unborn will bring many great miracles (eg, Locke's leg).

[defjux]

wow, i just watched the new episode and it was fucking awesome. Best one yet. preview for next weeks looks even better.

[imp]

Tomorrow night man :cool:
I didn't think the next one was till April but yeah I was wrong :) Ep 19 aired 30/3/05 so I'm looking for a torrent of it now :)

Thanks guys

[Up_All_Night]

downloading! so exciting!

[Fitty]

Where'd you get the torrent?

[jefah]

Current listing of air dates from tv tome

19. 1-19 118 30-Mar-2005 Deux Ex Machina
20. 1-20 119 06-Apr-2005 Do No Harm
21. 1-21 120 04-May-2005 The Greater Good (a.k.a. Sides)
22. 1-22 122 11-May-2005 Born to Run

hmmmm only one ep for April (pricks)

[Afro88]

Fitty (and anyone else):

http://trackerwww.prq.to/torrents-details.php?id=3309356 :cool:

[Up_All_Night]

as ive said before, download from irc

search packetnews for lost 19
and find some open slots, its so much faster. you getan episode in under 30mins. m current speed is over 200kbs

[Afro88]

as ive said before, download from irc

search packetnews for lost 19
and find some open slots, its so much faster. you getan episode in under 30mins. m current speed is over 200kbs

True story. I didn't think irc was much good for tv episodes. I am happily corrected - cheers!

Edit: Holy shit, I'm getting about 200k as well :cool:

[Goat Boy]

http://www.torrentspy.com/directory.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=214390

[Up_All_Night]

Good episode, id have to say Locke is by far one of the best most interesting characters on the show

[Sinwah]

Weird episode.

Locke got rooted on and I still hate him! Plus Sawyer looks freakin hilarious.

Oh yeah, hopefully Boon dies and somehow so does Michael (two most useless characters on the island)

[Afro88]

It's been suggested to me that Locke's spinal injury is psychosomatic. That is, there is no severing of the spinal cord, it's brought on by guilt of some sort. That's why he wanted to go on the walkabout, so he would be put in a life/death situation and have to walk. It's also why his muscles haven't deteriorated, because apparently people with that condition still have a good chance of recovering, so they are exercised as often as possible. Also, his employer treats him like shit, which is hardly how an employer would treat someone if they were actually disabled. Chances are, he looks down on Locke because he thinks he's bludging etc.

*spoilers for ep19*

I think we can all see the connection between the hatch and Locke's dad. The psychosomatic theory explains why Locke can't walk when he starts thinking about his dad and how he can't break the hatch open. Only when he is absolutely forced to walk he does, and brings Boon back to camp. Now that he's made the conscious effort to walk, and understands what stops him from using/feeling his legs, the hatch mystery starts to unfold.

[hazza]

still wats with the numbers and how fucking dare they tease us like that!? ughghghgh so unfair

i love this show

[big-panda]

The finale is suppose to be 90mins and its going to be a cliffhanger i cant wait

[Chrissy]

Has anybody else started playing the lottery with 'THE NUMBERS? Or am I just too sad and tragic for words?

[rayjayjohnson]

quite possibly

[gunsella]

sa'id the optometrist.
nice one!

do you reckon he came to the set that week just for that one scene, or did they lump that one in with the last episode's shooting?

[thingy]

I'm surprised Loche & Boone didn't grab Saiid and ask him to come look at the radio. He'd be able to pull it out & set it up in a safer environment, they know it can contact people. Well, they will if Boone survives.

[BlueBoy]

If I heard the last transmission right, Boone says: "We're survivors of Oceanic Flight 815," to which the dude Boone is talking to (who actually sounds like Boone) says "We are the survivors of Oceanic Flight 815!"
Fucking ace.

[thingy]

No, he doesn't sound exactly like Boone. I've just been playing that bit and he sounds different. I can't quite make out what he's saying through due to the plane falling and Loche yelling out.

[Afro88]

Woah, I missed that. Played it back just before, and the guy doesn't sound like Boone, but I reckon he does say "we are the survivors from Oceanic Flight 815!"

But it could be "there are no survivors from Oceanic Flight 815!"

Either way... :aah:

Edit: Just read on another board that the teletext/closed caption was "there are no survivors from Oceanic Flight 815!" :(

[jammin]

when locke is in the store, showing the kid mousetrap... when he first sees his mother she asks him where the footballs are. he says aisle 8 for regulation, aisle 15 for nerf (or something similar to that). i'm not sure how many other 815 references there are.

[RedMaN]

Just skipped by some of the spoilers above so I didn't ruin it for myself. Some of the links above and other links I have found are all the dodgy versions of ep 19. Apparently the encoding is really shoddy and the sound craps out.
I think I'll just wait until a better version is uploaded ;)

[spurr]

Just skipped by some of the spoilers above so I didn't ruin it for myself. Some of the links above and other links I have found are all the dodgy versions of ep 19. Apparently the encoding is really shoddy and the sound craps out.
I think I'll just wait until a better version is uploaded ;)

The first version released had audio and video glitches which made it quite annoying to watch. The repack going around is not too bad...a few video glitches in the later half of the episode, but the audio is fine. There is a HD rip already available if you've got the bandwidth...it comes in at around 700MB :aah:

[defjux]

the hospital that locke's mom was in is the same hospital that hurley went to to visit the lenny guy. i'm pretty sure hurley was in that hospital at one time too cause they seem to know him pretty well.

Found this on another forum. enlarge for detail
http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=358&pos=128

http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=305&pos=322

[gunsella]

i dont see the significance of those 2 screen shots

[darns]

The significance is the "Santa Rosa Mental Institute".

[defjux]

i dont see the significance of those 2 screen shots
In the first pic look at locke's mom's admission papers.
and in the second pic look at hurley's id badge.
Same mental institution.

[muga]

Argh!
Wtf Is In The Hatch!!

[imp]

I've believed for a long time that all the characters are inter-related some how. Before the crash they've all crossed paths at some stage or had an effect on someone else on the plane's life. (I'm dyslexic on Mondays so you'll have to excuse me)

When the hatch lights up at the end of the episode it's a bit.. wierd. The way Locke reacts to it. astro thinks it's b/c of the distress call that Boone sent from the plane hey found the heroin in. I think maybe Locke is just dreaming :)

[gunsella]

In the first pic look at locke's mom's admission papers.
and in the second pic look at hurley's id badge.
Same mental institution.

thanks defjux and bait.

the plot thickens...

[Afro88]

*Next episode possible spoiler*




Word has it someone dies in the next episode - who do you reckon? Boone? Locke?

I'm thinking Boone is too obvious...

[gunsella]

i read somewhere that it ISN'T locke. maybe it's korean dude.

[Salted_Chipmunk]

Its gonna be the the black dudes kid i reckon, they will set sail again and something will happen to him.

[imp]

Hmm I don't think it'll be the black kid. He's too important to the story. They haven't spent enough time developing his character enough to kill him off so soon.

I think maybe someone like the Korean guy, maybe his wife or Boone.

[Afro88]

Yeah I'm thinking the Korean guy too... But I'm also thinking Charlie - remember what they found on the plane?

[hazza]

hopefully its kate, mang that wench anoys me

[108]

hopefully its kate, mang that wench anoys me:fag:

[Up_All_Night]

haha wtf

www.kateandsawyer.co.uk (http://www.kateandsawyer.co.uk/index.php)

[defjux]

I heard from many places that its a male character that dies.

(EDIT)
My bet is on boone i know it seems too obvious but i think they made it that way so people would think that. Everybody should put there bet on one person and whoever quesses right gets rep. Kinda like a lost dead pool. But anyway i quess we'll find out tonight.

[defjux]

haha wtf

www.kateandsawyer.co.uk (http://www.kateandsawyer.co.uk/index.php)
oh yeah,what the fuck is that all about.

[Up_All_Night]

Ep 20, good stuff
some pretty signigicant happenings on the island, i wont say anything cause spoilers, but yeah

[hazza]

ep 20, omg, ep 20, so good, ep 20, so good, omg, ep, so, omg, 20, so good.

[Afro88]

Daaaaamn, I'm still downloading...

Sounds like a good un

[defjux]

yeah it was pretty damn good. i'd still say 19 was the best tho thats just me, (nothing like when that light in the hatch comes on at the end)
The preview for 21 looks AWESOME too. can't what.

[DeathRow]

Damn episode 20 is good.....Episode 21 looks even better.....Then the 2 hour season Finale... :aah: omg.... :aah: omg..... :aah: omg

Anyone here wants the promo for episode 21. Pick it up here http://media.lost-media.com/1x21-good-promo.zip

And Locke gonna get a whopping :flame:

[imp]

Downloading :D Looking forward to this one but not as much as the finale

[Sinwah]

Holy shit @ episode 20.

Fantastic ep, gave me hope for the series again after my disappointment at episode 19

[Chrissy]

Damn episode 20 is good.....Episode 21 looks even better.....Then the 2 hour season Finale... :aah: omg.... :aah: omg..... :aah: omg

Anyone here wants the promo for episode 21. Pick it up here http://media.lost-media.com/1x21-good-promo.zip

And Locke gonna get a whopping :flame:

Damn me for clicking that link and having a read of the site!

Ep. 20 is still coming down so I haven't seen it yet and now I know who dies. I've been so good about not reading the spoilers too. :grr:

[jambo]

Damn episode 20 is good.....Episode 21 looks even better.....Then the 2 hour season Finale... :aah: omg.... :aah: omg..... :aah: omg

Anyone here wants the promo for episode 21. Pick it up here http://media.lost-media.com/1x21-good-promo.zip

And Locke gonna get a whopping :flame:

Dead link.

[DeathRow]

Try this and get it manually, guess the site doesn't like linking.

http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=2&min=20&orderby=titleA&show=10

[RedMaN]

Seen both eps 19 & 20 now.... hmmmm, the plot thickens.
Bring on the season finale!!

[imp]

I really wanted to see them chop off Boone's leg :D

[jefah]

Damn episode 20 is good.....Episode 21 looks even better.....Then the 2 hour season Finale...

Tvtome list the next ep as a special (non story) on the 27-Apr-2005 then two more eps 04-May-2005, 11-May-2005 followed by the 3 part final. Part one on 18-May-2005 with part 2&3 on 25-May-2005.

[Blink]

In my opinion, for the last few episodes the quality and storyline have been top-notch. They just seem to get better and better. I just hope they don't have some crappy "tie up all the loose ends" thing in the season finale. I would rather have a lot of questions unanswered than have lame explanations...

[Up_All_Night]

the problem is if they leave answering things too long itll get crap and will fall into the whole x-files problems, where nothings answered, just gets more stupid to try and follow whats going on and in the end ya like, well that was a waste because obviously they're just making the shit up as they went along and it was never going to make sense.
they need to answer or reveal something major about the island before end of season, at least some pay off.

[Chrissy]

I agree with Up_All_Night. The whole 'what's in the hatch' thing is moving far too slowly at the moment. I can forgive the writers if they reveal a little more in the next episode (ep.21) but it we are still left hanging at the end of the season I shall be mighty pissed off.

[Afro88]

Just a reminder that the new episode of lost comes out tomorrow arvo/night :cool:

[108]

Isn't this one meant to be a recap episode? Boo!

[imp]

Isn't this one meant to be a recap episode? Boo!

I think so yeah. That's what it looks like from the TV Tome description here (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-24313/epid-399311/)

I hate flashback episodes. At least the next one if the season finale and is airing soon (May 4). :)

See the description below for the outline of the finale.














After another funeral, tempers rise as the survivors suspicions of each other grow, and an unlikely survivor vows revenge.
The events that landed Sayid on Flight 815 play out as he engages Locke in a psychological game of cat and mouse to uncover the truth about the mishap that claimed Boone. Jack goes after Locke believing he had caused Boone's death.
Meanwhile, Kate struggles to keep Jack from acting on his rage. Shannon also makes plans for her brother's alleged killer.
Claire and Charlie attempt to calm her new baby and Sawyer proves to be the best thing for Claire's very unhappy baby. Sayid's past involves the CIA and a suicide bomber.

[Drakin]

I love the scene in the loony bin
Hurley: I used the numbers to play the lotto
Benny: You shouldnt have done that, You've opened the box...

Pandora's box of course, with all its troubles and evils spirits, but also with its one good spirit, hope. The island could also be a representation of prometheus. What with it gifting people things. Not to mention the whole adam and eve bit in the caves.

[Up_All_Night]

being over my monly download limit, its a relief to know i aint missing out on any new lost

[gunsella]

i was looking forward to some new lost, but it was good to have a one hour recap of the whole season.
lame voiceover though