Morons create stupid theories about idiocy

[Scumbag]

It may be Al-Queda, but its the Blair government's fault.


Harsh as it sounds but it serves the english people right for voting a warmonger back in.


1 million people marched through the streets of London. Nobody listed.


And now theyve paid the price. Suddenly the Iraq war is brought to the streets of London, and its about fucking time. Unfortunately nobody listens until you start blowing shit up.


Australia is next. :(

[jambo]

It may be Al-Queda, but its the Blair government's fault.


Harsh as it sounds but it serves the english people right for voting a warmonger back in.


1 million people marched through the streets of London. Nobody listed.


And now theyve paid the price. Suddenly the Iraq war is brought to the streets of London, and its about fucking time. Unfortunately nobody listens until you start blowing shit up.


Australia is next. :(

I was pro-war (at the time -- now I'm fencing). Does that make this my fault?

[Chrissy]

It may be Al-Queda, but its the Blair government's fault.

Harsh as it sounds but it serves the english people right for voting a warmonger back in.



First off, there is only speculation that Al Queda had anything to do with this. At the moment, no-one really knows who was responsible.

Secondly, thanks very much for your compassion at this awful time. I'm sure you won't appreciate it if someone quotes that right back at you if anything happens in Aus (and I sincerely hope it doesn't.)

Don't forget that the bombs in London today didn't just effect British citizens but people of all nationalities.

I'm amazed at some of the negativity in this thread. Although you may have a point, is today, in this thread, the best time to express it?

[PsychoNavigator]

while i understand this was in jest, it is important to remember that these groups will target anyplace. you take a list of ideal targets (starting with, say, the white house) and a list of possible targets (starting with, say, the middle of the gobi desert) and where the two intersect is where you make plans to attack.

remember sept. 11 was chosen because it meant nothing. it was a completely unimportant day. it was selected because tuesday mornings are one of the times airport security is at its most lax.

after sept. 11, i recall zgeek was an excellent place for finding information and for exchanging ideas and thoughts as everyone tried to absorb what had happened. i hope the site can do the same again today.

Per my Comment about the french fries... I KNOW that I cannot be the first to point this out...

Sept. 11 or 9-11 or as in our emergency number 9-1-1.
Doubt it was coincidence.

But that is in the past. Today is about London and the people who are suffering tonight. The reality is overwhelming when it's in your own land and not a blurb on TV. Expect America (as a people, not necessarily government) to come through in many ways for London. We know how it feels, and it hurts.

[Vardsy]

Harsh as it sounds but it serves the english people right for voting a warmonger back in.

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If there are children involved in the casualties (which there most probably are) does it serve them right?

[Arcane1]

Harsh as it sounds but it serves the english people right for voting a warmonger back in.
That doesn't sound harsh, it sounds ludicrius. That would be the equivalent of saying that the US population ALL deserves anything that happens because a supposed 51% voted Bush back in.

If it was your family, kids, etc., then I think that you might rethink that position.

[ShinymetalASS]

I don't think blaming the British Government for inciting the wrath of a terrorist group is in anyway fair.

By the same token, the attack could never be described as "unexpected", given the British involvement in the so called "war against terror".

Always remember though, the people who perpetrated the attacks, whether from an organisational or a logistical role, have chosen to perform these deeds. People make their own choices and should be held responsible for their choices. This goes for everything in life, from bombing a bus, to driving a car down the street.

On a side note, anyone else get that 7th of 7th 2005 (2+5) is 777. Also 7 bomb blasts. And a quick run through with some other mates last night we (sort of) worked out that they would be the 7th G8 nation to have an attack (admittedly some have not been well publicised).

Even the powerball numbers reduced to seven last night. In draw 477.

I've always hated the number 7.

Oh, and also found out that two people I know (who are really both rather evil) had a baby yesterday. I'm thinking it's 777 and that the Church have been lying :D

[Deimos]

Australia is next. :(

I don't doubt it. My guess is that the most likely target would be Sydney, too. One big similarity between this attack and Sept 11 is that it seemed to be aimed at the financial district. It suggests that our Western economic system is what they are particularly angry at. Or, as once individual on this board may put it, it is as if they are envious of our wealth and want to cut us down like tall poppies. Or perhaps they believe that the reason our economic system is so strong and we as nations are so rich is because we have profited from their nations' suffering in the past. Who knows? I can't really fathom why anyone would want to do something like this, but I am a pacifist, so that's not surprising.

My thoughts are with all those who are hurt, afraid and angry. May you find peace, forgivness, and hope.

[Deimos]

By the same token, the attack could never be described as "unexpected", given the British involvement in the so called "war against terror".

I believe this is quite true. If you publically declare that you are at war, then I guess you can expect to have whoever you are at war with attack you. In WWII, when England declared that they were at war with Germany, they probably weren't too surprised when they got bombed. If you are going to use war as a pretence to bomb your enemy to oblivion, you can hardly be shocked when they try to do the same back - that's how war works, and it's just one reason why I really dislike war.

On a brighter note, a good friend of mine who works for an accounting firm in London replied to my email to say he's ok. I'm not sure about my cousins, but I'm pretty sure they don't live in London itself.

[Scumbag]

I don't think blaming the British Government for inciting the wrath of a terrorist group is in anyway fair.

I do.


If the British population had've voted Tony Blair out for his dispicable foreign policies and voted in the Liberal democrats who would have pulled British troops out of Iraq immediately, This would not have happened.

[Sagacious]

I do.


If the British population had've voted Tony Blair out for his dispicable foreign policies and voted in the Liberal democrats who would have pulled British troops out of Iraq immediately, This would not have happened.

There is absolutely no way of knowing that to be true phoneyhuh.

It is like saying if Cleopatra's nose was an inch longer the whole course of history would have been different.

[Benwah]

I do.


If the British population had've voted Tony Blair out for his dispicable foreign policies and voted in the Liberal democrats who would have pulled British troops out of Iraq immediately, This would not have happened.

Debatable, either way whatever the reason behind this attack... it would want to be a pretty good one, say what you like about Terrorists but they generally have pretty strong beliefs in the reasoning behind there attacks, beliefs that most other cultures find just as hard to understand as we find there belief/value structure.

My thoughts are with those innocent victims on both sides, a tragic state of affairs brought about by greed, hostility, lack of acceptance/racism and fear.

[Sagacious]

...It suggests that our Western economic system is what they are particularly angry at. Or, as once individual on this board may put it, it is as if they are envious of our wealth and want to cut us down like tall poppies. Or perhaps they believe that the reason our economic system is so strong and we as nations are so rich is because we have profited from their nations' suffering in the past. Who knows?

Opium poppies apparently. I heard in the news (I forget which source) that the focus is on the Afghan Opium poppy crop which has been re-sewn since the WOT* did their all singing all dancing all bombing friendly fire tour in that little part of the world. According tot he talking head on the news the poppy crop is what is financing the footsoldiers of terrorism. The poppy crop apparently is worth something over $2bn per year...pitty it is herion and illegal and all that stuff.

Perhaps they know that hitting us in the financial districts and bringing the engines of capitalism to a shuddering halt i swhere we hurt the most.

Like kicking their opponent in the nads or something.





* War On Terror

[Sagacious]

Tophizzle, the idea that England would kill their own people in this way to promote a political view is quite extreme.

Some might argue that Britain has not hesitated to sacrifice her youth in the cause of political expediency.

It is particularly a criticism made of Margaret Thatcher and her sending Brittain to war against Argentina over the Falkland Islands.

Many said that her election victory in (I think) 1982 was bought with the blood of British servicemen spilled in the South Atlantic.

[Sagacious]

Who are you, Nostradamus? You can't say that with certainty.

And thankyou for the sympathy displayed for those killed and injured in the attacks.

Back on topic - our head office is in London, but apparently all my mates over there are safe and well. Still trying to reach a few of my friends that I knew from my time over there. Hope everyone's family and friends are ok.

Also on topic a good friend of mine works in London in a Law Firm and has emailed me saying she's OK. She says that even working in the Reuters building it is difficult to get accurate data on what is going on. Apparently it is just Chaos there as far as information is concerned.

[Scumbag]

Who are you, Nostradamus? You can't say that with certainty.


To quote Osama Bin Laden: "Why do you think we didnt attack sweden"


And thankyou for the sympathy displayed for those killed and injured in the attacks.

There has been more than enough sympathy displayed in this thread already.

Bombings like this are a daily occurence in Iraq.

I dont see anyone's sympathy with them at all.

[ShinymetalASS]

Liberal democrats who would have pulled British troops out of Iraq immediately, This would not have happened.

Fuck, leader of the opposition AND prophetic talents all in one!

Your statement is highly speculative and I doubt it can be made with such a definitive assessment of an alternative outcome.

It pre-supposes an understanding of the motives of the terrorists, it assumes prospective policy implementations by a party, and it maintains an "hypothetical" alternative course of events as pre-determined.

[Juice Biscuit]

To quote Pinger. FUCK YOU STUPID CUNTS AND YOUR ARMCHAIR COMMENTARY.



For fucks sake this was an informative thread for those who had interest in what was going on.


But thanks to a bunch of fagrats who couldn't tell WTF the war forum is for its now a pile of fucking garbage.

[ShinymetalASS]

p.s. even if the "iraq" debacle is the motivation element of this particular attack, England have been subject to terrorist acts before.

*cough* IRA *cough*

[Movius]

I've split the stupid posts off into their own Death Row thread pending deletion on word of Pirate. Feel free to move posts to and/or from here if i've missed anything or accidentally included a valid post.

[That Bloke]

Al_qaeda Europa or something like that claimed responsibility for it but they are known for claiming to have done things they didn't do just for the attention, given the timing of the attacks the possibility that it was actually anti-globalisation protesters can't be completely ruled out.

[Plough]

It could of been a pirate attack?

[dozer]

lets speculate about all kinds of bullshit without knowing any facts. if the earth was flat then none of this would have happened.

[amj]

lets speculate about all kinds of bullshit without knowing any facts. if the earth was flat then none of this would have happened.
Dozer, clear out your inbox! PM me when you do that.

Sorry for off-topic post

[Directed]

Guys the whole thing about if we hadn't done the war on terror, Al Quida wouldn't be attacking us is a bunch of BS. Al Quida attacked several places before Afghanistan was invaded. If anything, MORE attacks would have happened because their organisation wouldn't have been disrupted. The war on terror was unavoidable. All those who would rather let terrorism run around without response should move to France, where you ideological peers reside. France: losing wars and surrendering since wars have been fought.

[The Cunt]

There is absolutely no way of knowing that to be true phoneyhuh.
Thats never stopped Phoneyhuh from going on a tangent before.

He is to pacificism what Noddy is to military aggression. ie: extreme.


It is like saying if Cleopatra's nose was an inch longer the whole course of history would have been different.
I've read all the Asterix books and the one about Cleopatra would have me believe that if her nose were any different it would have changed the course of history. So your analogy has been poorly selected.

[MisterBishi]

Hay guys, I'm so glad people got hurt yesterday because it backs up the ideology I picked up from geocities in 2002 and now I'll get reputation numbers from my internet peers!

btw.. how do you post a pictures guys? ??? I have this great tiff of tony blair with strings on and GORGE BUSH SI A MONKEY controling the strigs!!

[TheMightyPhill]

It may be Al-Queda, but its the Blair government's fault.

Harsh as it sounds but it serves the english people right for voting a warmonger back in.

1 million people marched through the streets of London. Nobody listed.

And now theyve paid the price. Suddenly the Iraq war is brought to the streets of London, and its about fucking time. Unfortunately nobody listens until you start blowing shit up.

Australia is next. :(

Dude you are being a dickhead, seriously.

That argument is short sighted, based on nothing but speculation and flawed in about 50 million places. Tony Blair is not a warmunger and his economic management far outweighs his 'warmongering' intelligent people will remember him for this. He followed Bush, they are allies, that is fair enough. At the time it seemed like it was the right thing to do. If there where WMD's than if nothing was done we would have been fucked. I was pro war when it began and the further through it gets the more it looks like it was a farce, but the point is decision made, live with it.
Further to that the USA was attacked before any 'war' they were attacked for all sorts of shit and correct me if I am wrong (it happens frequently) were we (Aus) not singled out for attack before one of our soldiers had moved?

Don't be a ‘tard mate.... I appreciate the other side and there is accountability, but pinning it on the majority of people for their vote is simply ridiculous.

[Grumblefish]

btw.. how do you post a pictures guys? ??? I have this great tiff of tony blair with strings on and GORGE BUSH SI A MONKEY controling the strigs!!


o, u just have to put it in as an attachment, or if you are really hardcore you can just directly link to the site you stole it from with IMG tags.

Phoneyhuh is such a fantastic poster that he deserves to be clubbed to death like a baby seal, k?

EDIT: Also if movius the mod did his job he would've just put this entire thread on death row, lowl

[Movius]

EDIT: Also if movius the mod did his job he would've just put this entire thread on death row, lowlZOMG I liek So DID lolol.

This thread is stuff i split from the original bombing thread. Pirate then moved it out of Death Row into this forum.

[Necron]

It may be Al-Queda, but its the Blair government's fault.


Harsh as it sounds but it serves the english people right for voting a warmonger back in.


1 million people marched through the streets of London. Nobody listed.


And now theyve paid the price. Suddenly the Iraq war is brought to the streets of London, and its about fucking time. Unfortunately nobody listens until you start blowing shit up.


Australia is next. :(


I dont like what you are saying here, the Blair government didnt get punished, the Innocent people of London did - and that is why I am neg repping you. No-one deserves this shit. No compassion shown here at all for those affected.

[Scumbag]

I dont like what you are saying here, the Blair government didnt get punished, the Innocent people of London did - and that is why I am neg repping you. No-one deserves this shit. No compassion shown here at all for those affected.


The irony is, is that you +rep'd me . :D

[Necron]

The irony is, is that you +rep'd me . :D

Hahahaha, Im not used to -repping. oh well. More that i got across what I was feeling at the time. Nothing against you.

My bad.

[Juice Biscuit]

I knew Movius should have let my thread about quotes in sigs to go to the front page.

[Necron]

FINE, Ill remove it then

[4X4]

It may be Al-Queda, but its the Blair government's fault.


Harsh as it sounds but it serves the english people right for voting a warmonger back in.


1 million people marched through the streets of London. Nobody listed.


And now theyve paid the price. Suddenly the Iraq war is brought to the streets of London, and its about fucking time. Unfortunately nobody listens until you start blowing shit up.


Australia is next. :(

YAHOO, SOMBODY'S ON MY SIDE FOR ONCE!!! :weed: :weed:

[Aardvark]

It was FOX NEWS, ripping off a rather ordinary james bond movie. Ordinary by bond standards, I'm saying.

Else it was the french. The french underground nuclear testers, testing in the london underground. Over the olympics decision. Because they're a bunch of cockheads.

[ShinymetalASS]

On going to war over religion: "You're basically killing each
other to see who's got the better imaginary friend."
- Richard Jeni

[MADCAT]

Australia is next.

I hardly think Australia would even be a target to terrorists, when the war in Iraq first started most of the American troops didn't even know that Autralian troops were in Iraq fighting with them.

[Scumbag]

I hardly think Australia would even be a target to terrorists, when the war in Iraq first started most of the American troops didn't even know that Autralian troops were in Iraq fighting with them.


Well that'll all change when Australia will take over Britain's role in Iraq in the near future...


Back on London though, I reckon they should've blown up buckingham palace instead.

[royale]

Good on you.


/add to ignore

[Javaira]

A part of me agree's with Phoney's original statement, but only a bit.

Originally I was dead against the war in Iraq, but not because I didn't think we should go to war, but because when you invade a country make sure you are doing it for the right reasons.

I am sick of these countries, being governed by selfish, corrupt and cruel people who do not meet the duty of care they have for their citizens at even the most basic of levels. Suddam Hussien is one of many, who I would be (and was) very happy to see deposed.

Now I understand the politics of why the UN are are nothing more than an old dog with no teeth. You can't depose one bad government on the grounds of human rights and then still let others exsist. I also acknowledge that my opinion on what is right has been greatly influenced by my environment, but I still think I am right.

It is not ok, to kill women because they or their husband committed adultery, it is not ok to exterminate a group of people because they are racially different or even religously different. It is not ok to use government funds to improve your standard of living while the majority of your populace starves. etc. I am not even talking about the lesser evils of no free speech, or equal rights for all.

I do think that this situation in the middle east and the breeding of militants and terrorists in these places, is a situation of our own making.

I have recently learned that the democratic nations were quite happy to not introduce democracy to these regions as a democratically elected Islamic government would actually be alot harder to negotiate with than dealing with whatever powerful tribe is currently in power.

ROBERT FISK: I don't think there's going to be democracy in the Middle East and I don't really think we want democracy. One of the problems of democracy in the Middle East is that, if it really exists, the Arabs may not do what we want them to do, and it's much more easy to have dictators, generals, businessmen running countries on our behalf, rather than saying, "Let's have a fair vote",

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2005/s1397485.htm

I don't think we will change this situation without military force and I also think we have a responsibility to change it. It will mean more terrorism before we get through it, but it is a larger issue than just how do we stop these attacks. I doubt that we will ever see the end of terrorist attacks until the people in these troubled regions get some sort of security and freedom for themselves. It is hard to look at westerners as rich, no moral, spoilt people when you yourself have everything they do.

Yes, it is a very condescending attitude, but I do think it is right.

[StAUG]

To quote Pinger. FUCK YOU STUPID CUNTS AND YOUR ARMCHAIR COMMENTARY.

For fucks sake this was an informative thread for those who had interest in what was going on.

But thanks to a bunch of fagrats who couldn't tell WTF the war forum is for its now a pile of fucking garbage.

Ahhh praise be! I read the first few posts of this and thought... "ARMCHAIR!". Fuck up about British civillians being directly responsible for people deciding to get on a train and blow themselves up, you're full of shit.

[Benwah]

It is not ok, to kill women because they or their husband committed adultery, it is not ok to exterminate a group of people because they are racially different or even religously different. It is not ok to use government funds to improve your standard of living while the majority of your populace starves. etc. I am not even talking about the lesser evils of no free speech, or equal rights for all.

Not okay to who? not okay to you, and me, but if it was not okay for them they wouldn't do it.

Who are we to decide whats okay or not?

(just saying BTW I don't have a opinion either way, just curious is all)

Is everything 'we' (the collective western world) do okay?