Getting harrassed at the pub

[Mr Bigglesworth]

Last night, a group of 9 of us from work, 6 guys and 3 girls, went to the local after a long day. We got a table, sat down and had a chat. About 10 minutes in, a group of three Englishmen, all quite drunk, decided to focus their attention on one of the three girls sitting at out table. They blew in and started to engage the girl in question, who showed no interest at all and told him in no uncertain terms that she was not interested. One of the blow-in guys became quite rude at her rejection, and told her to "fuck off". He then proceeded to tell everyone at the table to fuck off, one by one, often citing physical attributes of that person that he did not like. The three poms got up and left.

A few minutes later, they returned. We decided to ignore them as best as possible. Up until this point, only one guy had been offensive, now, realising that their quest had failed, one of the other guys became very offensive, and decided to throw a beer at one of my mates. We all got to the brink, there was some push and shove, but cooler heads prevailed, they got up and left, not without taking a swipe get again at everyone at the table saying some very crude words, that made everyone there feel like crap.

So here is the deal, a group of people, minding their own business for a drink after work, get harrassesed by a couple of louts looking for a fight. There were no bouncers or bar staff to be seen.

What do you do?

[Juice Biscuit]

I waive over the bouncer and sit back and relax.

Or I throw one myself, but if its with people from work its fairly safe to say the first option.


If the pub allows gits to start yelling fuck off at people with out stepping in than you should rethink where you're office drinks take place at.

[Mr Bigglesworth]

If the pub allows gits to start yelling fuck off at people with out stepping in than you should rethink where you're office drinks take place at.

That was the main problem here. We dont normally go to this pub, but decided to "for a change".

Sometimes what is familiar is also what is best.

[btwong]

punch the fuck out of em!

stupid fucking pommies!

[Sagacious]

Hit the cunts with one of these little beauties!

http://forums.zgeek.com/gallery/data/media/1/Taser.jpg

[King_Crud]

6 on three plus some chicks with handbags? Smash them, if the staff won't help then take matters into your own hands.

[hazza]

some fagwad last night asked me for a ciggie, i told him no, he kept at it, then i go 'look i have a full pack but i dont fucking like you, go away'

i gave ciggies to other dudes, friends of mine, to piss him off. this fucking tard just wouldnt get the fucking hint. eventually his fuli sik bro mates try to fight me, one takes a swing and i just back away, i can see the bouncers r running over, so i just laugh as one dude gets slammed into a parked car and the bouncer calmly tells him to fuck off home.

best advice, hands up, always walking away. thats if bouncers are around. its funny watching special people get pwned

[kré]

i would have snapped and beat the piss out of them

[Grumblefish]

I'm amazed you lasted until the beer was thrown.

[dwarfthrower]

As usual, cray is correct.

[hazza]

you're so tough cray, can you teach me how to be as tough as you?

[Haggisboy]

i would have snapped and beat the piss out of them

Slapping them until they give you a golden shower will only get you camera phoned directly onto the Internet.

[Up_All_Night]

just act like you snap and are a crazy cunt that'll fuck them up, or do the kinda friendly like they're joking thing, not tasking them seriously or like you dont care consider them a threat or anything, which has worked for me before

[Vardsy]

Always try to avoid violence as much as possible obviously but if there is a drunk fucktard who you know is gonna have a go regardless the best method I have ever used is to stand up and say

"Look this is ridiculous, we don't want any troub....................."

and half way through the word trouble you punch the bloke in front of you as hard as you can (and I am talking try to take his head off) square in the nose.

Doesn't brake your hand and the sight of all that claret flowing from his noodle really freaks people out.

Then again I had a mate who was getting harrased by some drunk (coincidentally Pommy) cunt and he did pretty much that.

Except he knocked the fucker straight backward and the cocksmoker smashed his skull on the concrete. The pom is now half brain damaged.

My mate got 3 years jail.

So really if at all possible try to avoid fights even if you can knock the pisser out of someone.

[Mr Bigglesworth]

I'm amazed you lasted until the beer was thrown.

There was a good reason why none of us were in the mood to fight:

- some of the guys had just turned drinking age and were too young/inexperienced to know what to do.
- the boss's brother was with us.
- im about a week away from going on my first every holidays, and didnt want to spoil it with court appearances and the like.

I was very tempted to crack the bigmouth in the head, I have to admit.

[Seeker]

Skin heads?

yes
no

Fuck them.

They watch for places that do not have bouncers.

Chicken shits, stand up to them just make sure you have at least 1 person behind you, even if they are a pussy.

Trust me I managed pubs in England, the more they shout, the bigger the pussy.

Fuckers..........God I wish I was with you.

[Sodapop]

some fagwad last night asked me for a ciggie, i told him no, he kept at it, then i go 'look i have a full pack but i dont fucking like you, go away'

i gave ciggies to other dudes, friends of mine, to piss him off. this fucking tard just wouldnt get the fucking hint. eventually his fuli sik bro mates try to fight me, one takes a swing and i just back away, i can see the bouncers r running over, so i just laugh as one dude gets slammed into a parked car and the bouncer calmly tells him to fuck off home.

best advice, hands up, always walking away. thats if bouncers are around. its funny watching special people get pwned Drinking another beer and going home with a girl is always preferable to spending all night giving statements and sitting around in hospital.

[Sodapop]

Here is my (latest) pub trouble story.

2am, Courthouse hotel. Leary guy who has been staring at her asks my girlfriend:

"Can I ask you a question?"

She replies:

"Sure, but I charge $5.95 a minute."

Leary guy:

"YOU FUCKEN SLUT!! YOU FUCKING WHORE!! I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU!!!"

Me:

"Calm down mate and piss off before things get out of hand."

Leary guy:

"I WILL FUCKEN KILL YOU YOU GREEN HAIRED FREAK!!! FUCK YOU!! CUNT!!"...and lunges at my girl. Now, she has much, much more manhours down in violence than me and brushes Leary guy away as I get Mr Bouncer, who skulldrags Leary guy by the neck and hair out the door.

NOW... She could have jobbed him one, then I could have given him the business with ye olde bootparty (http://store1.yimg.com/I/streetgear_1853_10604219). But that would have resulted in three things:

- A night with the cops
- A charge sheet for both of us
- Life ban from the bar

...and most importantly

- No more boozing for either of us.

So. Its your choice I guess. BUT....I did make pretence of "going to get some smokes" and stalk about the streets looking for this fucker, because I was drunk and felt evil. Didnt find him, though.

[dwarfthrower]

preferable to spending all night giving statements and sitting around in hospital.

If either of those scenarios eventuate you're doing something wrong. Quick web-strike to the throat and walk away.

[dozer]

yeah the english way is to break off the end of your pint glass and shove the circled jaggy in the offenders cheek, tends to silence them pretty quickly.

[The Cunt]

I always try to avoid confrontation unless it promises a chance for some mindless violence.

[kré]

you're so tough cray, can you teach me how to be as tough as you?
i'm not tough, but i'm mental enough that i'm just looking for an excuse to beat someone senseless.

[KrisEz]

What ive noticed, is that theres always a chance that someone has a weapon. true you had numbers, but between the 3 of them chances are if things escalated, someone was going to end up with more holes than they started out with, and wouldnt you feel bad if it was you who escalated, and someone else who got the holes? i beleive you have legal recourse against the licencee.

[Arcane1]

Pool cues and bar stools. Weapons of choice. Niether need a permit or reloading.

[Sagacious]

Remember in a bar fight/ street fight concrete is your friend and there are just some areas you can't train to receive a hit. :balls:

[The Cunt]

I did it Cray's way (http://209.172.55.4/img.php?loc=loc46&image=76a_war_pictures_231_852_212.jpg).

[Arcane1]

I did it Cray's way (http://209.172.55.4/img.php?loc=loc46&image=76a_war_pictures_231_852_212.jpg).
FUck. Was that necessary? It's 8 fucking AM here and I just ate breakfast.... :barf:

[kré]

FUck. Was that necessary? It's 8 fucking AM here and I just ate breakfast.... :barf:
that's what you get for being 15 time zones behind sydney

[Sagacious]

I did it Cray's way (http://209.172.55.4/img.php?loc=loc46&image=76a_war_pictures_231_852_212.jpg).
What you had your girlfriend sit on his head?

[The Cunt]

I hope he was wearing clean underwear.

[excalibur]

Pool cues and bar stools. Weapons of choice. Niether need a permit or reloading.
The last time a guy in the medieval club I was a member of got in a bar fight, it was 6 on 1. He was the 1. He grabbed a pool cue, jumped up on the table, threw a shot at each guy. (the shot he threw looks like it's coming straight at you, but at the last second it flicks around and hits you in the back of the head) KO'd all of them with one shot each. He was then banned from the bar, but let off on charges as it was considered self defence.

[Vardsy]

FUck. Was that necessary? It's 8 fucking AM here and I just ate breakfast.... :barf:

Sagacious's Avamatar is vile enough.

+rep to Saggy

[Uther Pendragon]

If at all possible try to avoid bar fights, its just not worth it. I helped out on a murder/manslaughter/infanticide study where we went through all cases from the previous 10 years.

The very first case we looked at was a couple of older bar flies having a fight over a pool table, one hit the other in the head, he fell over and hit his head on the tiles and died later that night

The second case we looked at was a bloke out with his girlfriend on new years eve, another guy started slagging off his girlfriend so he went over and punched him in the head, he fell and hit is head on the gutter, the guy tried to resuscitate him but he died anyway.

Both guys got gaol time for manslaughter.

Not fucking worth it, just back off unless you have no other option.

[Bostonmess]

If you wanna be retarded enough to get involved in violence, go for it. Otherwise be a fucking coward like me, sit there quietly and wait for it to go away.

[Sodapop]

I seriously doubt that any of you fuckers have been involved in any violence of any kind in the recent and/or distant past.

The only people that, honestly, seem like they have seen ANY action are: Jhonny roberts and hazza.

[Grumblefish]

^^^ Sounds like a well researched opinion, Sodapop!


yeah the english way is to break off the end of your pint glass and shove the circled jaggy in the offenders cheek, tends to silence them pretty quickly.

That's the dumbest thing ever. In America, I've found that stabbing people is frowned upon regardless the reason. When the law rolls around it's a whole new ball-game, especially when you actually have something to lose.

[lostreality]

this happened a few weeks ago in a pub near us (about a minutes walk away):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/4748559.stm

the news story is vague.

what actually happened is:

there was a fight over something retarded, one guy went to wilko's and bought some kitchen knives, put them between his fingers like edward scissor hands then went and slashed this other dudes face with them, the guy that did the slashing then orderd a taxi to take him to the airport. my neighborhood is like the bronx.

- my source of info comes from my fiances dad who knows the copper that was first on the scene.

[King_Crud]

when I lived in Dublin there was a fight a pub just down the road. Apparently two guys were arguing over football, something to do with Arsenal i think. Anyways, argument ensues, one guy leaves, goes home, gets his gun, goes back to the pub and shoots the other guy. Other guy is dead. This was about my second week of living in Dublin, i was well impressed.

[johny_roberts]

^^^ Sounds like a well researched opinion, Sodapop!




That's the dumbest thing ever. In America, I've found that stabbing people is frowned upon regardless the reason. When the law rolls around it's a whole new ball-game, especially when you actually have something to lose.

Actually I belive Sodapop remembers what he reads and just does not spout off like the majority of the people here do.

Now to the topic: Its a hard thing to answer on what is to be done. You are with workers hence if you punch the person they think you are mad, if you do not then all nine of you walk away saying the people are crazy and you have a good story to talk about for a bit. So I believe you handled it correctly letting it go.

But then we have all the posts saying what I would have done so of course I will contribute. Myself would have done this: Ask the brute what his problem was? Heard insult which he would have thrown out. Looked him in the eye then ask the following, "You might be big and have a loud mouth but if you do not walk away this instant I am going to knock you down hard."

Wait for retort:

Look in the eye and once again say, "if you move towards us again or do not appologize then your fucked. If you do kick my ass which might happen I promise you one thing that is I'll bite your fucking ear off if I have too because I do not like to lose a fight."

biting is only for huge blokes I weigh 145...........

Last... Dozer if you broke off a bottle someone would shove it up your ass. You only pick up a weapon if you can use it and you have to be brutal to slash someone. I can punch you, kick you bite you but not slash you. Pick it up you have to use it....

Lastly pick a new bar. If they are frequents which it sounds like hence the lack of security it will happen again. If it does throw the first punch then the second and third. I doubt his mates will even realize what happend.


Real last point: There is no waiting for the person to throw a punch. If you draw a line (figurtively) and they cross it you have to clock them with everything you have. If not Bostonness has the best answer and the answer I give my brother.

[Marshall77]

I have been in pubs and nearly been thrown out because I was little loud at one point. If the bouncers dont step in when they should Its time to go some where else. No point in getting into a fight or having a nice evening ruined by a could of pricks

[Bostonmess]

A could of pricks? Is that like a gaggle of geese, a pride of lions, a crash of rhinos etc? :D

[johny_roberts]

A could of pricks? Is that like a gaggle of geese, a pride of lions, a crash of rhinos etc? :D

it would be "bunch of pricks"

and to the last post Marshall it was stated there was no bouncer...

[druckfugged]

best to just leave. In fights someone always gets hurt. Even if you do win you're generally so pissed off afterwards the evening's ruined, and the women who were there with you would change in their attitudes towards you permanently, regardless of how much the other guy deserved it.

[wibble]

best to just leave. In fights someone always gets hurt. Even if you do win you're generally so pissed off afterwards the evening's ruined, and the women who were there with you would change in their attitudes towards you permanently, regardless of how much the other guy deserved it.
That's always been my attitude: just walk away, no matter how much you're being provoked. I have been in situations where I have wanted to hit the guy so badly it hurt, but then I think to myself, "Is hitting him really worth possibly spending a night in a police cell and getting a criminal record?" If you do actually turn around and hit the guy, then you're no better than him.

[ewe2]

speaking of violence where the FUCK did you get that avatar?!