Happy September 11!

[primary]

I made an image to commemorate this wonderful day.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1305/happy9118cr.jpg

[Lesser]

Is that really tasteful?

[Haggisboy]

Another asshat crawls out from the depths.

[Grumblefish]

It's not 9/11 yet in Manhattan, you retard. Set your clock to centre-of-the-world time, and don't make this mistake again.

[ezer]

not cool, thats like celebrating hiroshima

[Scumbag]

meh. that was like 4 years ago..


Get over it!

[primary]

It's not 9/11 yet in Manhattan, you retard. Set your clock to centre-of-the-world time, and don't make this mistake again.

Someone sounds a bit cranky that Australia is in the future.

[druckfugged]

arsehole.

[repeat]

wrong, just so way wrong.

[s3raph]

Dude thats just so not cool.

[The Cunt]

Not cool, that's like celebrating the death of Christ.

[Fitty]

You're a complete wanker.

[primary]

Lighten up..

[excalibur]

I'm sure families of the 5000 people that died (including the emergency personel) will thank you for making your image and your wonderful thoughts.

Arsehat.

[MC SoD]

Hey, the only reason we don't commemorate the holocaust was it wasn't one particular day, so there's no good anniversary to make balloon pictures on.

And people do celebrate hiroshima.. or what's with all those paper cranes?

[Fitty]

Hey, the only reason we don't commemorate the holocaust was it wasn't one particular day, so there's no good anniversary to make balloon pictures on.

And people do celebrate hiroshima.. or what's with all those paper cranes?

Commemorate and celebrate are a tiny bit different. Like, people will commemorate my death and celebrate yours, for example.

I'm sure families of the 5000 people that died (including the emergency personel) will thank you for making your image and your wonderful thoughts.

Arsehat.

There was one girl whose firefighting father raped her a whole bunch, she was pretty happy about it. Oh, and that guy who used to kick dogs on his way to work... I think he was the coffee guy on the 43rd floor. But apart from that, you're probably right.

[MC SoD]

Well primary was commemorating the day and ezer was celebrating hiroshima, so I had to make my post accord with those.

P.S. you know how we're going for that cruise tomorrow fitty? Maybe people can celebrate my death and commemorate yours at the same time :p

[Fitty]

Murder-suicide is only in vogue for divorced fathers with three children, you're so 5 minutes ago.

[MC SoD]

Murder-suicide is only in vogue for divorced fathers with three children, you're so 5 minutes ago.

Meh, you have a mullet.

[Fitty]

The idea of a flamewar is to make fun of the opponent, not compliment them.

[MC SoD]

Fine... you wear headbands

[Fitty]

Only if you braid my hair...

[kré]

Commemorate and celebrate are a tiny bit different. Like, people will commemorate my death and celebrate yours, for example.

cel·e·brate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sl-brt)
v. cel·e·brat·ed, cel·e·brat·ing, cel·e·brates
v. tr.
To observe (a day or event) with ceremonies of respect, festivity, or rejoicing. See Synonyms at observe.
To perform (a religious ceremony): celebrate Mass.
To extol or praise: a sonnet that celebrates love.
To make widely known; display: “a determination on the author's part to celebrate... the offenses of another” (William H. Pritchard).

v. intr.
To observe an occasion with appropriate ceremony or festivity.
To perform a religious ceremony.
To engage in festivities: went out and celebrated after the victory.

Use of the word 'celebrate' does not necessarily suggest you are happy that this event took place. Therefore your argument has no valid point.

(A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?

[eeefreak]

mad respect primary!!!

about time someone finally voiced the opinion that there are some of us that thought 911 was funny as fuck

serves the fucking americans right.

You can't bully the rest of the world for 60 years and not expect someone to finally push you back.

fuck you americans. fuck you.

[astro]

http://forums.zgeek.com/gallery/data/media/1/cunningplan.jpg

[Elentari]

I made an image to commemorate this wonderful day.

does it really make me that bad a person if my first reaction to this resulted in a ROFL-fest??? maybe i should steal some stuff or kill something instead. seriously, there's worse than laughin at a stupid picture.

+ they're BALLOONS!!!! balloons are aweswome!

especially the big shiny ones

oooooo.... shiny....

[BlueBoy]

This thread gets the BlueBoy Seal of Approval.

[StAUG]

Mmmm, hell of a hackneyed and expected troll attempt, but shit happens. I'm neutral in this case, it doesn't offend so much as it commits the cardinal sin of mediocrity and denies me even the oppurtunity to shit can it for being un-pc. Booo!

[Bostonmess]

I wonder if there's any Zgeekers that lost anyone on September 11th.

[StAUG]

Since they're mostly Australian and it was only 5,000 people out of 6 billion blah blah blah. I'd guess there aren't, but who knows...

[dilligaf]

I knew someone who was in NY on that day...

They were going to visit the trade center later that day for a business meeting.

[Jimma]

I laughed at the picture but only because I don't care, not because I'm a weirdo or anything.

[kré]

google's 9/11 banner. well, what it should be anyway...

http://www.crayonline.com/pics/google911.jpg

[jambo]

google's 9/11 banner. well, what it should be anyway...

http://www.crayonline.com/pics/google911.jpg

You should be a artist.

I think Sep 11 should be happy day. Just because something's wrong doesn't stop it being funny.

[King_Crud]

I laughed at the picture but only because I don't care, not because I'm a weirdo or anything.
agreed

[The Cunt]

I wonder if there's any Zgeekers that lost anyone on September 11th.
That was the day Nodbugger lost his childhood.

[StAUG]

A Noddy reference eh. Shitstorm!

[Sabra]

AIDS took 22.3 years.

Seriously tho, some shit just shouldn't be joked about.

[BlueBoy]

AIDS took 22.3 years.

Seriously tho, some shit just shouldn't be joked about.

Help me out here, could you provide a list of said things?

[Salted_Chipmunk]

AIDS took 22.3 years.

Seriously tho, some shit just shouldn't be joked about.

Man that was a funny episode of South Park.

[Scumbag]

I'm sure families of the 5000 people that died (including the emergency personel)


Only 2,752 died that day, plus the 19 hijackers who became martyrs.


Pretty miniscule in the grand scheme of things.. Worser things have happened this year alone.

[coreageek]

Not cool, that's like celebrating the death of Christ.
The only thing funny in this thread

[coreageek]

google's 9/11 banner. well, what it should be anyway...

http://www.crayonline.com/pics/google911.jpg

For some reason, i don't find this nearly as offensive.

[Kez]

I laughed at the picture but only because I don't care, not because I'm a weirdo or anything.
Oh no, with that avatar you're still a weirdo.

I think that's how that guys face became like that, the Twin towers fell on his already shit arse face.

[scathing]

I wonder if there's any Zgeekers that lost anyone on September 11th.

Me. My shares in Westfields haemorrhaged a lot of value, and it killed my inner child.

[coreageek]

Only 2,752 died that day, plus the 19 hijackers who became martyrs.


Pretty miniscule in the grand scheme of things.. Worser things have happened this year alone.

Only 2,752? Only? Miniscule?

Maybe if you're comparing to the hurricane, you can for a moment, forget how big this really was. Only for a moment, though - and not a moment long enough to finish that post without giving it a second thought.

[kré]

For some reason, i don't find this nearly as offensive.
offensive meanings not necessarily intended, rather a poke at the times.

[coreageek]

offensive meanings not necessarily intended, rather a poke at the times.
understood. It really seems to make fun of google more than anything, which makes it actually funny

[Manshoon]

I wonder if there's any Zgeekers that lost anyone on September 11th.

As a matter of fact yes there is. My father died on September 11.....a couple of years before the "Twin Towers" incident but I get reminded every fucking year of the bullshit.

Im sorry if people think thats cold but I have bigger issues on my mind than some planes flying into some buildings in another country. My family comes first and that has always outweighed the BS of 9/11 IMHO

[Scumbag]

Only 2,752? Only? Miniscule?

Maybe if you're comparing to the hurricane, you can for a moment, forget how big this really was.


Only compared to 5000 as previously stated.

Yes compared to the hurricane, compared to the tsunami last year, Sudan last year, Iraq last 2 years and so on an so forth.

Dont get me wrong, it was tragic & all, but some people's & the media's over reactions have blown the whole thing way out proportion.

[FireHart]

I made an image to commemorate this wonderful day.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1305/happy9118cr.jpg

Your pic rocks. Happy Freedom Day or whatever

[coreageek]

Only compared to 5000 as previously stated.

Yes compared to the hurricane, compared to the tsunami last year, Sudan last year, Iraq last 2 years and so on an so forth.

Dont get me wrong, it was tragic & all, but some people's & the media's over reactions have blown the whole thing way out proportion.

I know what you mean, but that sort of frenzy is only expected today, which is Septemer 11 after all.

It's not really the deaths that make it a big deal, though. It's the nature of the disaster. A tropical storm or earthquake did not send those planes into those buildings. This was a completely pointless (and avoidable) loss of life. This wasn't a disaster, this was mass murder. Big difference.

With that said, I also have to say that I really hope that after today, people shift focus back on New Orleans.

[johny_roberts]

lmfao, lol etc...................

Ya real fucking funny day lmfao .......... nothing like death to make it funnier than a barrell of monkeys

[scathing]

A tropical storm or earthquake did not send those planes into those buildings. This was a completely pointless (and avoidable) loss of life. This wasn't a disaster, this was mass murder. Big difference.

Do deaths from tropical storms or earthquakes have more of a point than deaths caused by people who perceive themselves as oppressed by a foreign power they can't oppose head on, and thus need to seek their revenge (or, in their eyes, justice) by making terrorist attacks?


And how much warning did academics provide to the US federal government about the possibility of a big storm coming in and fucking New Orleans' shit up?

How much warning did engineers provide about how well the levee system in New Orleans would cope with a massive and sudden influx of water in adverse conditions?

How much warning did Mother Nature provide by hitting Florida with a massive hurricane in the recent past, showing that she was possible of delivering such force?

How much warning did meteorologists provide that a big, fuck-off hurricane was in the Gulf of Mexico and heading towards New Orleans?

And after the storm came and went, what was the time differential between notification and action of the federal authorities that there were a whole bunch of people trapped in the city in their houses, or the Superdome, and urgently needed food / potable water supplies?

Is 3 years enough advanced warning to develop some kind of hurricane response policy, both in terms of passive defenses (better waterway management and reinforcing) as well as active defenses (city evacuation education and training, like in Cuba)?

Is a year enough time to reinforce levees (considering they're rebuilding some of them in days at the moment) that wouldn't cope with a similar storm strength to what hit Florida, given that engineers had warned a few years prior that they wouldn't cope with a big storm?

Is a week enough time to evacuate the city, letting those with cars drive themselves out, and bundling those without into buses, US Army transporters, etc?

And is over a week fast enough to get rescue and law enforcement officials into the chaotic aftermath when the locals are clearly overwhelmed, both in terms of scope and emotion?


If your differentiator is the meaning of their deaths, and the percentage of those deaths that could have been avoided, then your "big difference" is about the same size as a Ferrari owner's "big penis".

[johny_roberts]

Scathing you have just wasted one minute of my life reading the above. To sum it up simply is this:

9/11 murder
flooding "act of god whatever"

answer: figure it out yourself

[scathing]

Scathing you have just wasted one minute of my life reading the above.

How's that different to how you spend the rest of your life?


Your response still does not relate to the "meaning" and "avoidability" assertions put forward by coreageek, so clearly you have no problem with time wasting.


However, to wander off on your tangent, God helps people who help themselves. And, as God's stewards upon this planet, it is His requirement (as stated in Genesis) that we take care of all living things, including one another. I'll skip the responsibilities that the government is meant to have towards its citizens, since you decided to invoke "act of God".

So tell me, where is that stewardship, demanded by the God, by George W. Bush's government in their response to warnings prior to and immediately after the hurricane? If the hurricane was an act of God (and if God's plan involves us saving people, then these disasters are merely his tests just like humans test the alarm and disaster recovery systems of their creations), it therefore follows that Bush's (in)action and subsequent failure of that stewardship is, at best, gross negligence by Bush's Party. At worst, it was a wilful desire to go against the desire of God and is thus an act of the devil.

And, in your "act of God" response, it won't be to any mortal's impeachment hearing that they will be answering to.


That said, Muslim extremists assert that they flew planes into a bunch of buildings as an Act of Allah. They feel that they are their God's messengers. At the heart of it, the deity of the Jews, Christians and Muslims are one and the same. While their interpretation of their god's teachings, prophets and messiahs differ all 3 religions spring from the same source. So, really, 9/11 was as much an Act of God as Hurricane Katrina.

[evil]

I wonder if there's any Zgeekers that lost anyone on September 11th.

It wasn't a close friend, but a friend of a friend, a friend I played golf and softball with, died on 9/11. I was just over the border in connecticut, so it was pretty damed close

[johny_roberts]

Christ you cant keep things right to the point can you? Other than that you like to type. Make it simple again.

1) you shoot a person in the head *murder*
2) a bick falls from a building hitting a person in the head killing him *act of god or whatever*

sure number 2 could be prevented if the person did upkeep on the house but still not murder ...negligence yes murder no.......

9/11 premeditative *cant shit me to spell it right*
Hurricane *shit happens*

[Salted_Chipmunk]

As always tribute.wmv never fails to capture the spirt of this day.

http://sa.briantist.com/tribute.wmv

[Vardsy]

For what is worth I think that anything - no matter how tragic or tasteless should be made fun of and laughed at.

WTF do we acheive by all walking around saying "Think of the poor people who lost loved ones" I mean comedians make jokes about AIDS and suicides and shit all the time and everyone laughs their arse off.

I have lost a couple of very close friends to car accidents, suicide, but that doesn't stop me having a chuckle at a bit of black humour every now and then.

Typical fucken seppos, have laugh at everyone else's expence but if you are being laughed at it is "Think of the families and the serviceman blah blah blah" - fucken cry babys

[-=[BB]=-]

Scathing you have just wasted one minute of my life reading the above. To sum it up simply is this:

9/11 murder
flooding "act of god whatever"

answer: figure it out yourself

I always thought The 11th of Sep was supposed to be an act of Allah or something....

[johny_roberts]

For what is worth I think that anything - no matter how tragic or tasteless should be made fun of and laughed at.

WTF do we acheive by all walking around saying "Think of the poor people who lost loved ones" I mean comedians make jokes about AIDS and suicides and shit all the time and everyone laughs their arse off.

I have lost a couple of very close friends to car accidents, suicide, but that doesn't stop me having a chuckle at a bit of black humour every now and then.

Typical fucken seppos, have laugh at everyone else's expence but if you are being laughed at it is "Think of the families and the serviceman blah blah blah" - fucken cry babys

Wow!! Guess living in ignorance is catching..........

[Scumbag]

Good article in today's Sydney Morning Herald:



George Bush has squandered the public mandate he received after the September 11 attacks, writes Francis Fukuyama.

As we mark four years since September 11, 2001, one way to organise a review of what has happened in US foreign policy since that terrible day is with a question: to what extent has that policy flowed from the wellspring of American politics and culture, and to what extent has it flowed from the particularities of this President and this Administration?

It is tempting to see continuity with the American character and foreign policy tradition in the Bush Administration's response to September 11, and many have done so. Americans have tended towards the forcefully unilateral when we have felt ourselves under duress; and we have spoken in highly idealistic cadences in such times, as well. Nevertheless, neither American political culture nor any underlying domestic pressures or constraints has determined the key decisions in American foreign policy since September 11.

In the immediate aftermath of the attacks, Americans would have allowed George Bush to lead them in any of several directions, and the nation was prepared to accept substantial risks and sacrifices.

The Bush Administration asked for no sacrifices from the average American, but after the quick fall of the Taliban in Afghanistan it rolled the dice in a big way by moving to solve a longstanding problem only tangentially related to the threat from al-Qaeda - Iraq. In the process, it squandered the overwhelming public mandate it received after September 11. At the same time, it alienated most of its close allies.

The Administration could instead have chosen to create a true alliance of democracies to fight illiberal currents coming out of the Middle East. It could also have tightened economic sanctions and secured the return of arms inspectors to Iraq without going to war. It could have had a go at a new international regime to battle proliferation.

All of these paths would have been in keeping with American foreign policy traditions. But Bush and his Administration chose to do otherwise.

The Administration's policy choices have not been restrained by domestic political concerns any more than by American foreign policy culture.

Much has been made of the emergence of "red state" America, which supposedly constitutes the political base for Bush's unilateralist foreign policy, and of the increased number of conservative Christians who supposedly shape the President's international agenda. But the extent and significance of these phenomena have been exaggerated.

So much attention has been paid to these false policy determinants that a different political dynamic has been underappreciated. Within the Republican Party, the Bush Administration got support for the Iraq war from the neoconservatives (who lack a political base of their own but who provide considerable intellectual firepower) and from what the US foreign policy expert Walter Russell Mead calls "Jacksonian America" - American nationalists whose instincts lead them towards a pugnacious isolationism.

Circumstance then magnified this unlikely alliance. Failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and the inability to prove relevant connections between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda left the President, by the time of his second inaugural address, justifying the war exclusively as part of an idealistic policy of political transformation of the broader Middle East.

Bush's Jacksonian base, which provides the bulk of the troops serving and dying in Iraq, has no natural affinity for such a policy but would not abandon the commander in chief in the middle of a war, particularly if there is clear hope of success. This war coalition is fragile, however, and vulnerable to mishap. If Jacksonians begin to perceive the war as unwinnable or a failure, there will be little future support for an expansive foreign policy that focuses on promoting democracy. That in turn could drive the 2008 Republican presidential primaries in ways likely to affect the future of American foreign policy as a whole.

Are we failing in Iraq? That's still unclear. The US can control the situation militarily as long as it chooses to remain there in force, but Americans' willingness to maintain the personnel levels necessary to stay the course is limited.

The all-volunteer army was never intended to fight a prolonged insurgency, and both the army and marine corps face manpower and morale problems. While public support for staying in Iraq remains stable, powerful operational reasons are likely to drive the Administration to lower force levels within the next year.

With the failure to secure Sunni support for the constitution and splits within the Shiite community, it seems increasingly unlikely that a strong and cohesive Iraqi government will be in place any time soon.

If the United States withdraws prematurely, Iraq will slide into greater chaos. That would set off a chain of unfortunate events that will further damage American credibility around the world and ensure that the US remains preoccupied with the Middle East to the detriment of other important regions - Asia, for example - for years to come.

We do not know what outcome we will face in Iraq. We do know that four years after September 11, the whole foreign policy of the United States seems destined to rise or fall on the outcome of a war only marginally related to the source of what befell America on that day. There was nothing inevitable about this. There is everything to be regretted about it.


sors (http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/wasted-lives-then-wasted-opportunity/2005/09/11/1126377203128.html)

[tomsyman]

Another interesting story in the smh somewhere about how Halliburton's getting the contracts to rebuild etc. Who'd have thunk it.

BTW - I laughed at the pic.

[Vardsy]

Wow!! Guess living in ignorance is catching..........

A yank calling someone else ignorant - ha laughable.

What is the capital city of the world by the way?

[Movius]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/13TonGimp/Sep11.gif

[Movius]

95. Absurd Boast

I was getting my cock sucked
when the plane collided into the second tower.
She spit my nut up
and wiped her mouth
with the American flag.

[tomsyman]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Movius again.

[scathing]

Christ you cant keep things right to the point can you? Other than that you like to type. Make it simple again.

My apologies.

I forgot that providing lucid arguments to back up assertions has become unfashionable in your neck of the woods. Heaven forbid that you be able to justify things you say!


Pithy enough for you?

[scathing]

1) you shoot a person in the head *murder*
2) a bick falls from a building hitting a person in the head killing him *act of god or whatever*

etc

Great examples. Once again, only tangentally relevant. And only tangentally correct.

Since you're so adverse to justifications, I'll just let that stand as-is and expect you to accept it as truth without providing you with the means to work out why for yourself.

[Arcane1]

mad respect primary!!!

about time someone finally voiced the opinion that there are some of us that thought 911 was funny as fuck

serves the fucking americans right.

You can't bully the rest of the world for 60 years and not expect someone to finally push you back.

fuck you americans. fuck you.
You are an ass. But not for the reason you probably think.

Agreed, the American Gov. has asked for it.
Agreed that the American Gov. is comprised of serious fuckwits.
Agreed, that someone has the right to push back.

Problem is that those that died were civilians. Had they nuked Wahsington DC, then I'd be cheering. But the didn't, they killed a bunch of (and their children) that were there earning a living.

So for those people, fuck off.

[primary]

Those future children probably would of grown up to be soldiers. Hence a pre-pre-emptive strike.

I'm sick of all this violence regardless. It's all a big joke. Maybe if everyone had access to the zpr0n forums NONE OF THIS WAR BUSINESS EVER WOULD OF HAPPENED!

[bronco]

Movius... that is classic

LONG LIVE TETRIS

[Fitty]

cel·e·brate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sl-brt)
v. cel·e·brat·ed, cel·e·brat·ing, cel·e·brates
v. tr.
To observe (a day or event) with ceremonies of respect, festivity, or rejoicing. See Synonyms at observe.
To perform (a religious ceremony): celebrate Mass.
To extol or praise: a sonnet that celebrates love.
To make widely known; display: “a determination on the author's part to celebrate... the offenses of another” (William H. Pritchard).

v. intr.
To observe an occasion with appropriate ceremony or festivity.
To perform a religious ceremony.
To engage in festivities: went out and celebrated after the victory.

Use of the word 'celebrate' does not necessarily suggest you are happy that this event took place. Therefore your argument has no valid point.

(A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?


Way to ruin a nice flame war, dick cocker. And anyway, your definition bears no relevance to my argument. Show me the bit in that definition where it says celebrate can refer to a death, then find me some place in English literature where someone "celebrates" a funeral of a loved one.

AIDS took 22.3 years.

Seriously tho, some shit just shouldn't be joked about.

Yeah, lucky AIDS isn't one of them. Funny as when those faggots die of shit.

A yank calling someone else ignorant - ha laughable.

What is the capital city of the world by the way?


Stop lumping them all into the one group, that's like saying that all Australians are petrol sniffing, no job having, dirty living people. And that's just not true in Victoria.

[stroakit]

why cant you celebrate the memory of those who died?... you dont need to celebrate the act of cuntery that now defines the day

quote(To observe (a day or event) with ceremonies of respect,)

[scathing]

then find me some place in English literature where someone "celebrates" a funeral of a loved one.

Christians "celebrate Good Friday" every year. Of course, its possible that Christians don't love Jesus (after all, they seem almost psychotically obsessed with the guy getting nailed to planks of wood for a few hours before being stabbed with a spear), rendering that last sentence moot.


And just because its not in common usage doesn't means it not correct.

[Jimma]

Ooh good point scathing.

[rayjayjohnson]

said it before:

i went to new york and had two twins go down on me.

what a mess.

[Fitty]

Christians "celebrate Good Friday" every year. Of course, its possible that Christians don't love Jesus (after all, they seem almost psychotically obsessed with the guy getting nailed to planks of wood for a few hours before being stabbed with a spear), rendering that last sentence moot.


And just because its not in common usage doesn't means it not correct.

Well actually, as language is an evolving thing, if something is used incorrectly often enough, it becomes correct. Like the word quote - noun or verb?

And being the good little christian you obviously are :weed: you would know that christians don't actually celebrate the death of Jesus, they celebrate his selflessness in dying for our sins so that we may have eternal life. So really, I'm right and you and cray are wrong. Or we could just sum it up with pwnt.

[Urban3300]

What about Mexicans on the day of the dead (Día de los Muertos)?

[scathing]

Well actually, as language is an evolving thing, if something is used incorrectly often enough, it becomes correct. Like the word quote - noun or verb?

Noun or verb? Within this link lies your anwer (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=context).

[That Bloke]

So many people on Zgeek used to be such big fans of D*A*A*S*, & so I fail to see how this is taken in poor taste.

[scathing]

And being the good little christian you obviously are :weed: you would know that christians don't actually celebrate the death of Jesus, they celebrate his selflessness in dying for our sins so that we may have eternal life. So really, I'm right and you and cray are wrong. Or we could just sum it up with pwnt.

How can they celebrate His selflessness in dying without appreciating His actual death?

"Appreciate you buying the farm for us mate, you're a bloody legend. But we'll stick to the 'legend' part and ignore the dying part going forward (even though that's the whole point since its the only vehicle for our salvation), OK?"

Would they celibrate had Jesus not died on the cross, and just given up all his possessions and wandered around preaching to people? No. Even though that was "selfless" as well, merely being selfless wasn't enough. It was Jesus' death that opened the Gates of Heaven and gave people salvation, and so that's why Good Friday is more of a special day to Christians than the days he cured people, freely preached to them about what they needed to do to get in to Heaven, or forgave Judas for betraying him.


But if you want to apply that logic, most funerals aren't there to celebrate the person dying either, but to recall what they did in life and wish them a symbolic farewell. Which renders your original assertion null and void.

[FireHart]

What about Mexicans on the day of the dead (Día de los Muertos)?
I think 11 omg 9 should be celebrated with the same spirit.

[Fitty]

Noun or verb? Within this link lies your anwer (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=context).

Dictionary.com is a piece of shit. The Oxford dictionary says that quote is only a noun in coloquial language, which was exactly my point. The Oxford dictionary also says that celebrate can mean commemorate, which brings an end to the argument.

As to your christian thing, there's a celebration of his dying because of what the results of it were, not the dying itself.

[Jimma]

That doesn't mean shit. They're still celebrating it.

[kré]

So really, I'm right and you and cray are wrong. Or we could just sum it up with pwnt.

if by right you mean ignorant, then yes, that is correct.

[Salted_Chipmunk]

You don't.... hate...... freedom? Do you?

[dilligaf]

Worser things have happened this year alone.

Like your grammar?

[The Cunt]

And being the good little christian you obviously are :weed: you would know that christians don't actually celebrate the death of Jesus, they celebrate his selflessness in dying for our sins so that we may have eternal life. So really, I'm right and you and cray are wrong. Or we could just sum it up with pwnt.
Splitting hairs?

Jesus dying wasn't a selfless act. He could have been completely selfish and as a human died from those mortal wounds anyway.

So you are right, but only because Cray and scathing are more right then you.

And the biggest loser is the person who declares themselves to have "pwnt" someone else. It's kinda like buying trophies from a garage sale and putting them up on your own mantlepiece.

[PsychoNavigator]

I find this thread old and tired, only three pages into the posts. For a moment, you would do best as a person to not look at this for a swipe at America and all that OUR GOVERNMENT represents, but for what it truly is; a loss for human being. The lives lost all over the world, taken by hatred, agenda, and religion are far worse than being consumed by natural disaster, becasue of one simple fact. Another person decided that other people have no right to live. What a horrible thing to do.

I am proud of my country. I love this place. There are so many beautiful things here that I would probably never find anywhere else in the world. But I will never tell you that it makes my country greater than yours, no matter where you are. I have so many liberties I take for granted. Then again, so do you. What I don't like is how the rich keep themselves in power perpetually, and misrepresent us to the rest of the world.

Then again you have idiots like noddy, who are under the illusion that we are THE SUPERPOWER, and we are not! If he had any idea of how our economy would crumble if the middle eastern companies that own all that oil pulled their money from our financial reserves, or understand that we (as a government, not people, mind you) trained the majority of terrorist organizations in the world, so that they would do our dirty work and assasinate others in our way, and he acknowledged the depth of this reality, he'd SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

Hate our government, but not our people. Just like we do, you have your sickos and homicidal fuckers running around just the same. A lot of the struggle that we have is that the poor will almost always indefinitely stay poor, while the rich just keep on getting richer. The sad part of it is that when the poor try to take things in their own hands, the rich use their vast reserves to ensure that right will never overcome might.

Just my 2 cents. That picture is fucked up, but I'm not crying over it. It was nothing more than a half-assed photoshop and there wasn't an ounce of creativity to this. I had no emotional response to it one way or another. Just the opinion of a person who doesn't know how to separate agenda from humanity.

[Jimma]

You said a lot but none of it was interesting

[PsychoNavigator]

Funny, my gf tells me that all the time as well...

[lostreality]

this thread is great.

[StAUG]

Those future children probably would of grown up to be soldiers. Hence a pre-pre-emptive strike.

Do you ever say anything that isn't utter shit?

[djgcorporation]

I find this thread old and tired, only three pages into the posts. For a moment, you would do best as a person to not look at this for a swipe at America and all that OUR GOVERNMENT represents, but for what it truly is; a loss for human being. The lives lost all over the world, taken by hatred, agenda, and religion are far worse than being consumed by natural disaster, becasue of one simple fact. Another person decided that other people have no right to live. What a horrible thing to do.

I am proud of my country. I love this place. There are so many beautiful things here that I would probably never find anywhere else in the world. But I will never tell you that it makes my country greater than yours, no matter where you are. I have so many liberties I take for granted. Then again, so do you. What I don't like is how the rich keep themselves in power perpetually, and misrepresent us to the rest of the world.

Then again you have idiots like noddy, who are under the illusion that we are THE SUPERPOWER, and we are not! If he had any idea of how our economy would crumble if the middle eastern companies that own all that oil pulled their money from our financial reserves, or understand that we (as a government, not people, mind you) trained the majority of terrorist organizations in the world, so that they would do our dirty work and assasinate others in our way, and he acknowledged the depth of this reality, he'd SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

Hate our government, but not our people. Just like we do, you have your sickos and homicidal fuckers running around just the same. A lot of the struggle that we have is that the poor will almost always indefinitely stay poor, while the rich just keep on getting richer. The sad part of it is that when the poor try to take things in their own hands, the rich use their vast reserves to ensure that right will never overcome might.

Just my 2 cents. That picture is fucked up, but I'm not crying over it. It was nothing more than a half-assed photoshop and there wasn't an ounce of creativity to this. I had no emotional response to it one way or another. Just the opinion of a person who doesn't know how to separate agenda from humanity.

shutup then.

[primary]

Do you ever say anything that isn't utter shit?

StAuG


GeT IT I SaId YoUR NaMe, aND AlL I SAy Is ShIT LOlOROLFolrfoLRO.

[Ins0mniac]

Hey, the only reason we don't commemorate the holocaust was it wasn't one particular day, so there's no good anniversary to make balloon pictures on.

And people do celebrate hiroshima.. or what's with all those paper cranes?


People do not celebrate Hiroshima with paper cranes, you idiot!!

my god!

Commemorating and remembering isn't celebrating!

I suppose you think we celebrate war on Anzac day and Rememberance day too! Get a clue.

[Ins0mniac]

And that picture in the first post is just stupid.

Making fun of thousands of deaths isn't cool.

[Grumblefish]

Why does this thread still exist? It's pretty clear that the original poster is somewhat less that human.

[ezer]

i actually agree with grumbles........ wow

[Jimma]

Get fucked. This shit is hilarious and I for one am disgusted at the lack of distasteful yet hilarious follow-up pictures. For shame zGeek.

[PsychoNavigator]

shutup then.

pwned! *doh! lol!!!111one