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DOGG

20-10-2005, 07:25 PM

IMPORTANT: If you are joining be sure to read "how to join" below.
IMPORTANT2: Added info on how to run SB on multi-core CPUs info in 'Program Info' section

General Info

What is it?
SeventeenOrBust (http://www.seventeenorbust.com/) is a distributed computing project aimed at solving the Sierpinski problem (http://wiki.seventeenorbust.com/index.php/SierpinskiProblem).

Link to much sierpinski stuff (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/search/?q=sierpinski)

I don't get it
Proving this mathematical theory will help advance mathematics. Here are some words and pictures which should help:

"As early as 1915, Sierpinski described a "gasket" or a "triangle" with repeated and proportionally reduced areas. Today these shapes are widely known as "fractals." Sierpinski's triangles would later emerge to be among the most recognizable shapes or patterns in all computer graphics."
http://curvebank.calstatela.edu/sierpinski/sierpinski.htm (also has interactive sierpinski triangle)

Fractals (http://images.google.com.au/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&safe=on&q=fractals) <- take a look (pics)

These are just stupid things with no practical use besides generating pretty images
Wrong. They help us understand the world around us. Mathematics is a representation of reality. Have a look at fractals in nature for example:

http://www2.cs.uregina.ca/~hepting/pix/linfracgal/reflecting.gifF
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http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/IST/IST197/V3058021.jpgN
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Mathematicians in the early 20th century investigated curves that had highly intricate and detailed shapes. Moreover, they realized that while a region might be bounded and thus the area finite, the perimeter or border might seem to be infinite. These curves - the Koch Snowflake for example - with finite area and infinite perimeter, were given the name of "pathological." This particular area of research in mathematics has generated colorful names: Cantor's dust, Polya's sweeps, Peano's dragons, Sierpinski's carpet and others.
http://curvebank.calstatela.edu/fractal/fractal.htm (includes interactive fractal)

How can i help?
If your computer is on (being used or not) for an hour or more a day, join the team (instructions below). And recruit some members if you can.

Program Info

How do i run this on multi-core CPUs?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-114505.html

What kind of impact will it have on my computer?
Typically it uses 5-15 megs of RAM. And a few Kilobytes of bandwidth each day.

It will use any spare capacity of your CPU. So it will be utilising 100% of your computer's power all the time. You won't notice the impact because it only works while there's nothing else to be done. But if you're using a laptop, this program is only practical if you have it plugged into a power socket.

What platforms is it available for and do you have a screenshot?
SB is available (http://www.seventeenorbust.com/download/) for Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, BeOS.

A screenshot is attatched to the bottom of this post.

Will my firewall prevent it from working?
Most likely not. You may or may not need port 1717 open. Only worry about it if you can't receive work units or send results back.

The program is detected as spyware. What's up with that?
The anti spyware program SpySweeper detects SB as a 'remnant' of spyware purely because it's installed to the same directory (program files\sb\) as some spyware. So make sure it doesn't get wiped if you use SpySweeper or install to a different directory.

The program causes my computer to freeze or gives me the blue screen of death
You've either got bad ram or your computer is overclocked too far or it's not getting enough cooling. Neither are a fault of the program.

The program occasionally displays "Internal computation error. Test will restart" or something to that effect.
Your computer is overclocked too far most likely. This usually happens as you approach the limits and there are occasional errors but not enough to crash your machine. Relax your RAM and/or CPU FSB timings.

How to join

Step 1: Make an account on the SeventeenOrBust (http://www.seventeenorbust.com/) website

Step 2: You MUST join team zgeek.com under "Team Affiliation" in "Preferances" after you log into the SB website. Enter your SB username into the client's config menu and also enter 'zgeek' under 'Team'.

Step 3: Make sure "Auto-start on windows boot" is ticked in the program's config menu otherwise you must start it manually each time. Also tick 'transmit intermediate blocks' if it isn't already.

Team Info

The stats page for the team is available here (http://www.seventeenorbust.com/stats/teams/team.mhtml?teamID=485)

If you're on the team, please put a "Zgeek SeventeenOrBust Team" link in your signature if you have room. The way you do this is to click "User CP" then "edit signature" and insert this:

Zgeek SeventeenOrBust Team (http://forums.zgeek.com/showthread.php?t=42094)

I reckon it'll get more people to view the thread and possibly join.

Donations

I am accepting donations in order to make another competition thread to entice new members with cash rewards. Any amount will help.

Contributors:
Oggy ($20,000)
L ($10,400)
munganah ($10,000)
NomadGnome ($8,000)
Tintin ($1,400)
frednurk ($1,069.5)
Tyrany ($1,000)
jackle ($1,000)
roddez ($1,000)
GutterClown ($700)
Evil ($500)
Frednurk ($300)

TOTAL: $47,369.5

Rep Reward Receivers

The following people have received a 300 rep bonus for their contributions to the team:

Roddez
benzo
Buffalo (username = BinaryFart)
minorproblem

GutterClown

21-10-2005, 04:57 AM

anyone else use SETI@Home? (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/)

be advised, i personaly use the older version client, doesnt chew as much CPU power, and doesnt run all the fucking time...

DOGG

21-10-2005, 10:36 AM

anyone else use SETI@Home? (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/)

be advised, i personaly use the older version client, doesnt chew as much CPU power, and doesnt run all the fucking time...
I used to use seti. But then i thought about it and realised that solving maths problems would have much more use than (hopelessly) scanning for alien signals in a limited spectrum.

Seventeenorbust runs all the time but it doesn't use much ram and i can't see any kind of performance impact.

DOGG

25-10-2005, 03:37 PM

*bump*

cummon ya lazy cunts. Join team Zgeek and lets get the ball rolling

ratbag

25-10-2005, 03:52 PM

So what happened to all the ZGeek folders?

timace

25-10-2005, 03:56 PM

just started on it :)

DOGG

25-10-2005, 04:00 PM

just started on it :)
Great, thanks :)

Please join team zgeek in your 'preferences' settings on the website (must log in of course)

DOGG

28-10-2005, 01:16 PM

UPDATE:You MUST join team zgeek under "Team Affiliation" in "Preferances" after you log into the SB website. Also enter 'zgeek' into your client under 'Team'. You need to do this only once.

Welcome to the team timace and thanks for joining.

Arcane1

28-10-2005, 01:21 PM

I have a number of servers running that wouldn't miss some RAM or processor time. Which ports does it run on? And, will an AV program like AVG find it to be offensive?

DOGG

28-10-2005, 01:28 PM

Great man thanks.

It uses port 1717.

I don't think any AV progs find it offensive. But the anti spyware program SpySweeper detects it as a 'remnant' of spyware purely because it's installed to the same directory (program files\sb\) as some spyware. So make sure it doesn't get wiped for that...

If you have any more questions, i'll get back to you when i get back home in 14 hours or so.

DOGG

16-12-2005, 02:33 AM

*Bump*

Anyone wanna volunteer their spare cycles? Team zgeek is at position 231 / 434

TheMightyPhill

16-12-2005, 03:46 AM

Done.

DOGG

16-12-2005, 03:56 AM

Thanks for joining themightyphill & antz :)

DOGG

16-12-2005, 04:43 AM

& fallan. Good man.

Post in here people if you join so i can beat you silly with my rep stick

Fallan

16-12-2005, 04:56 AM

no worries try my best to help out the fellow people

munganah

16-12-2005, 06:54 AM

I'll run it as long as I dont notice too much pc clog:fag:

ChodeMaster

16-12-2005, 07:18 AM

looks interesting. have put client on my desktop and joined team.

DOGG

16-12-2005, 01:03 PM

Thx for joining chodemaster & munganah.

EVERYONE: I don't know if it's on by default, but it would be cool if yous had "auto start on windows boot" ticked.

16-12-2005, 01:52 PM

Okay Dogg... I am signed up and calculating.

DOGG

16-12-2005, 02:22 PM

good man thanks. +rep heads your way

DOGG

17-12-2005, 03:23 AM

Good work guys :)

Are yous having a race or something?

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9706/rank9zb.png

DOGG

17-12-2005, 07:39 PM

People: please tick "Auto-start on windows boot" in the program config otherwise you must start it manually each time.

18-12-2005, 06:57 PM

Good work guys :)

Are yous having a race or something?

Yeah :D We are coming to get you DOGG ;)

DOGG

19-12-2005, 01:36 PM

OK people another request... those who can be fucked (if anyone), plz put a "Zgeek SeventeenOrBust Team" link in your signature. The way you do this is click "User CP" then "edit signature" and insert this:

[ URL= "http://forums.zgeek.com/showthread.php?t=42094"]Zgeek SeventeenOrBust Team[/URL]

without the space between the [ and URL. I reckon it'll get more people to view the thread and possibly join.

DOGG

19-12-2005, 01:38 PM

Yeah :D We are coming to get you DOGG ;)
You're catching up damn fast!

Guest.

19-12-2005, 02:44 PM

Done, I'm getting 'couldnt get block from server' error code. So it's probably blocked from the work's f/wall.

I'll install it @ home this evening.

DOGG

19-12-2005, 03:05 PM

Done, I'm getting 'couldnt get block from server' error code. So it's probably blocked from the work's f/wall.

I'll install it @ home this evening.
May need port 1717 open.

Thx for joining :)

20-12-2005, 04:38 PM

zgeek team is now ranked #189 for Total Production

W00t! Go zGeekers!

DOGG

20-12-2005, 04:45 PM

Good work ppl yeah :)

We were at 231 just 4 days ago. I'd like us to be in the top 50. But we do need more members.

randomhero

20-12-2005, 05:11 PM

i'm in the process of signing up it looks kinda worthwhile and a very litte burden to the computer

randomhero

20-12-2005, 05:25 PM

wooo up and working, go team

DOGG

20-12-2005, 05:28 PM

Hey L.... wtf do u run to get a 1.822 M cEMs/sec overall rate? 2 comps?

i'm in the process of signing up it looks kinda worthwhile and a very litte burden to the computer
Thx dude you just submitted your first tiny piece of work and i can see you on the team. good stuff.

20-12-2005, 06:44 PM

Hey L.... wtf do u run to get a 1.822 M cEMs/sec overall rate? 2 comps?

Thx dude you just submitted your first tiny piece of work and i can see you on the team. good stuff.

HEHE ... well... I have the client running on 3 computers here at the office and 2 computers in the office at home. They range from Athlon 3000+ down to a Duron 900 ...

I just saw that the team name is now showing as zgeek.com ... do we need to change our team association to match that or is it a label?

DOGG

20-12-2005, 07:09 PM

HEHE ... well... I have the client running on 3 computers here at the office and 2 computers in the office at home. They range from Athlon 3000+ down to a Duron 900 ...

I just saw that the team name is now showing as zgeek.com ... do we need to change our team association to match that or is it a label?
Aahhhh that explains why you're catching up so fast.

Thx for reminding me. Yeah i changed the name because i saw that another team had .com on the end. Couldn't add .com when i created the team so i done it now.

The client won't zgeek.com as a team name anyhow. It shouldn't matter. I've just submitted a result and my stats went up. As long as you've logged into the site and set your team affiliation, it should be all good.

So existing members don't need to do anything. But new ones need to enter zgeek.com instead of zgeek as their team affiliation.

Doitle

22-12-2005, 09:23 AM

What's the PW? When I try to set Zgeek as my afiliation it says "This team requires a password"

jackle

22-12-2005, 10:55 AM

Yeah, there's no way I'm contributing my excess processor power if I'm not helping Zgeek in some obscure way. Password, please!

jackle

22-12-2005, 10:57 AM

PW appears to be "zgeek".

DOGG

22-12-2005, 02:06 PM

Shit... didn't know that. thx for working it out and joining. rep heads your way

DOGG

23-12-2005, 11:10 AM

removed the password. shouldn't ask for one now.

label

23-12-2005, 11:28 AM

done

Aardvark

23-12-2005, 11:34 AM

So what will this prove?

I almost bought that guff about the 10 digit prime number helping advanced cryptography, but this one seems to be totally pointless in the grand scheme of things.

What do these numbers prove? How do they help the world at large?

In five words or less

EvilMuppet

23-12-2005, 11:48 AM

DOGG

23-12-2005, 11:50 AM

So what will this prove?
What the smallest sierpinski number is

I almost bought that guff about the 10 digit prime number helping advanced cryptography, but this one seems to be totally pointless in the grand scheme of things.

What do these numbers prove? How do they help the world at large?

In five words or less
Good question. It helps maths by verifying something. So you can base future calculations/formulas/theories on something you know is right i suppose.

I can't name a practical use for it, since i haven't really made an attempt to understand it. I'll leave it to the mathematicians.

Aardvark

23-12-2005, 11:51 AM

At a fundamental level, all biology and chemistry is little more than complex mathamatics. As they make advances in mathamatical theory, other areas of science become suddenly clear

DOGG

23-12-2005, 12:02 PM

oh how dissapointing I thought this was going to be the Folding@home project. It's the same basic idea but aims to use disributed computing to work on problems such as " diseases, such as Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers and cancer-related syndromes." rather than some obscure maths problem noone in thier right mind cares about.
T those are attempts to simulate a biological process with a computer. Mathematics doesn't change and it's about the only thing you can really be sure about.

In the future i may take up folding but right now i'm solving the SP

23-12-2005, 05:13 PM

I can't name a practical use for it, since i haven't really made an attempt to understand it. I'll leave it to the mathematicians.

I hadn't looked into Sierpinski either and got curious... The following link has lots of interesting results:

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/search/?q=sierpinski

Sierpinski's sieve is cool
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SierpinskiSieve.html

What is cool about this number - Interesting site... number 1095, 3126, 9843 :)
http://www.stetson.edu/~efriedma/numbers.html

DOGG

24-12-2005, 11:29 AM

oohh yeah i forgot to mention fractals...

DOGG

24-12-2005, 11:36 AM

this site (http://curvebank.calstatela.edu/sierpinski/sierpinski.htm) is very short. While it won't explain the sierpinski problem to you, it does have a java applet where you can make a sierpinski triangle. And it has an animation of what a sierpinski triangle is. Also some info about Sierpinski.

I'll give a quick quote from the site:

As early as 1915, Sierpinski described a "gasket" or a "triangle" with repeated and proportionally reduced areas. Today these shapes are widely known as "fractals."

Fractals (http://images.google.com.au/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=fractals) <- take a look (pics)

What can i say? Maths is the universal language. It's a representation of reality. By solving problems we can better understand how things work.

Tintin

25-12-2005, 11:18 PM

Looks like we are only 2 positions behind OCAU in terms of Total Production. Way to go team! http://www.seventeenorbust.com/stats/teams/team.mhtml?teamID=485

P.S. The client program has had no noticeable effects on the performance of my computer. If you're thinking about joining this, go for it!

Tyrany

26-12-2005, 01:22 PM

Just signed up. Had to use Tyranny as my name though. Gawd, I hate having to misspell words ;)

DOGG

26-12-2005, 01:49 PM

I actually checked the team stats right after you joined and had 0 work done. Was glad to see a new member up there.

thx for joining the team :)

DOGG

26-12-2005, 04:42 PM

Total Production: 155th
Last Day's Rate: 24th

We should be able to make it into the top 50 at this rate. We do need more members so get recruiting ppl.

DOGG

26-12-2005, 06:56 PM

ATTENTION

I've updated the first post. Tell me what yous think. Anything i can improve?

EDIT: And read the last "Team" section about the sigs.

28-12-2005, 09:08 PM

Nice job on the first post update DOGG :)

Team zgeek is now ranking #143
Last day's rate ranking #20

DOGG

28-12-2005, 11:29 PM

Nice job on the first post update DOGG :)

Team zgeek is now ranking #143
Last day's rate ranking #20
Thx :)

thought it would make it easier for people to understand and join.

I just wanna burn off those crunchers .inc. We've been overtaking each other a bit.

STallingU

29-12-2005, 08:37 PM

Just joined. AMD x2 4600+ is cranking out the numbers for you.
May have to connected up the old comp aswell and get that going.
Hmmmmmmm might do that now.
I've given you all a big enough head start but I will overtake you all.

DOGG

29-12-2005, 08:42 PM

*whacks his +rep stick across STallingU's head*

Not sure if the current version of SB utilises both cores.

You can try to overtake me but i will have an new 3700+ going by mid-january. which should help me stay up there.

thx for joining and plz remove the space between the [ and URL in ur sig :)

DOGG

29-12-2005, 08:50 PM

No offense dude but try reading the instructions...

You didn't even follow step 2 to actually join the zgeek team. You're working as an individual without a team.

STallingU

29-12-2005, 09:18 PM

No I'm not. I click on the team name in the top right corner and it brings up the zgeek.com team with everyones stats in it except mine. But it says its a 24hr thingy so I should be in it tomorrow.

DOGG

29-12-2005, 09:22 PM

No I'm not. I click on the team name in the top right corner and it brings up the zgeek.com team with everyones stats in it except mine. But it says its a 24hr thingy so I should be in it tomorrow.
OK you're in now. It's always pretty much instant. Never takes a day.

DOGG

29-12-2005, 09:23 PM

plz fix your sig lol.

are the instructions confusing?

STallingU

29-12-2005, 09:30 PM

No not confusing at all. You have put the wrong url in you first post that you told everyone to copy and past. I know the space is there so it doesnt turn into a hotlink.

DOGG

29-12-2005, 09:36 PM

No not confusing at all. You have put the wrong url in you first post that you told everyone to copy and past. I know the space is there so it doesnt turn into a hotlink.
argh...

dude...

no, i put the right URL. It leads to post 1 of this thread. So people have a nice quick, zgeek reference thread where they can ask questions and chat amongst each other. people are 100000x more likely to join viewing this thread than the front page of the SB website.

So.... plz fix it... again :)

Tintin

29-12-2005, 10:07 PM

har har

To make the concept perhaps more simple:

The purpose of this thing is to identify new prime numbers. These new prime numbers are very large and thus require lots of computing power.

Prime numbers have applications in cryptography, i.e. secret codes.

Gotta Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS) so the people understand.

STallingU

29-12-2005, 11:49 PM

Not sure if the current version of SB utilises both cores.

You can try to overtake me but i will have an new 3700+ going by mid-january. which should help me stay up there.
It only uses 50% not like on the other 3 computers I've set it up on which uses 95%
Your gonna need more than your 3700+ to stay in front.

Now have:
4600+, 2800+, 2500+, and AMD 1500ghz
When I go back to work on the 3rd will ad that pc to the list. Intel 3.2ghz

I'm almost 5 times your speed at the moment and it is still going up. :1337:

Have you checked some of the speeds of som people in the top teams. Shit they have speeds of 20 m and I'm sitting on 2.2 m Must have their whole office running it.

DOGG

30-12-2005, 12:16 PM

It only uses 50% not like on the other 3 computers I've set it up on which uses 95%
Your gonna need more than your 3700+ to stay in front.

Now have:
4600+, 2800+, 2500+, and AMD 1500ghz
When I go back to work on the 3rd will ad that pc to the list. Intel 3.2ghz

I'm almost 5 times your speed at the moment and it is still going up. :1337:

Have you checked some of the speeds of som people in the top teams. Shit they have speeds of 20 m and I'm sitting on 2.2 m Must have their whole office running it.
Oh shit! Your current overall rate is 3.137 M which is heaps. i usually manage 1m/day.

well thx for adding all that computer power.

currently i'm running it on my athlon xp (202x11=2222mhz) (around 3200+ speed) and an old disabled athlon (100x13=1300mhz) instead of 133x10=1333mhz. I'll be replacing the disabled machine with the 3700+ which i'll overclock ofcourse. But you're right i got no chance of staying on top.

yeah the top guys must have quite a few machines running sb for them.

DOGG

30-12-2005, 12:19 PM

Tintin

30-12-2005, 01:00 PM

Yeah, I think it could possibly go just before the 'Link to much sierpinski stuff'. The points I mentioned probably relate fairly well to things that most people would know about.

DOGG

30-12-2005, 01:38 PM

i'm concerned that it might give people the impression that this is exclusively to make cryptography stronger, which most people woundn't give two shits about.

STallingU

30-12-2005, 04:11 PM

We are getting up there boys and girls.
We have moved up on all the stats

1:07 am EST, 30 Dec. 2005
Team Statistics for zgeek.com

Numeric Statistics

Statistic Last Day Overall
Team age n/a 70.9 days
Work rate 10.28 M cEMs/sec 1.72 M cEMs/sec
Proth tests completed 1 tests (1.6%) 62 tests
Work done 888.27 G cEMs (8.4%) 10.55 T cEMs
Equivalent power (est.) 257.02 GHz 43.03 GHz
Processing time used (est.) 6.3 P90-yrs 74.4 P90-yrs
Currently pending tests n/a 49 tests

Rankings

Note: The rankings are only updated once a day, around 1:00 AM Eastern time. If your rate or production have changed throughout the day, don't worry — it will be reflected in the next day's update.

Neighbors: Total Production
Rank Team Name Production (cEMs) Team Age
134 BeOS 11.63 T 1125.8 days
135 DarkBreed 11.24 T 1126.3 days
[Climbed 5 slots yesterday!] 136 zgeek.com 10.55 T 70.9 days
[Climbed 1 slot yesterday!] 137 Crunchers Inc 10.42 T 21.4 days
[Dropped 2 slots yesterday :-(] 138 OOPS (Original Oldies Prime Search) 10.38 T 825.2 days

Neighbors: Last Day's Rate
Rank Team Name Rate (cEMs/sec) Team Age
[Climbed 1 slot yesterday!] 16 Bulgaria 13.22 M 311.5 days
[Climbed 1 slot yesterday!] 17 Rechenkraft 11.94 M 1350.1 days
[Climbed 4 slots yesterday!] 18 zgeek.com 10.24 M 70.9 days
19 SoB@China 9.88 M 526.6 days
20 gangho 9.85 M 275.2 days

Neighbors: Overall Rate
Rank Team Name Rate (cEMs/sec) Team Age
62 NewcastleUni 1.77 M 48.3 days
63 Busted 1.74 M 621.4 days
[Climbed 4 slots yesterday!] 64 zgeek.com 1.72 M 70.9 days
[Dropped 1 slot yesterday :-(] 65 CampusHafnia 1.71 M 1160.5 days
[Dropped 1 slot yesterday :-(] 66 Croatia 1.65 M 1020.4 days

DOGG

31-12-2005, 01:21 PM

Ohhh yeah!

We're ahead of our main competition which is Crunchers Inc.

tikdoph

02-01-2006, 11:45 AM

I would have thought that Folding@Home was a much better use of CPU cycles as research into proteins would probably have more positive applications than cryptography would.

DOGG

02-01-2006, 11:53 AM

your question is briefly discussed on page 3

DOGG

02-01-2006, 08:52 PM

people some guy is facing 30 years in jail because of a distributed computing program. If you installed this on a machine other than your own, have a read

http://forum.zgeek.com/showthread.php?t=45503 (news awaiting review forum so not all will be able to see the thread maybe)

In other news:

1 DOGG 3.004
2 Lbrisvegas 2.982

NOOOOOOOOOO

04-01-2006, 11:48 AM

STallingU

04-01-2006, 12:44 PM

1 Lbrisvegas 3.233 T cEMs
2 DOGG 3.144 T cEMs

MWAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!

:D

I'll be holding tight until StallingU leap-frogs me...
At the moment I'm sitting just below 5m cEMs.
But when I leave work it drops down to 3.2
I'm on 1.57 T cEMs total. So your still double what I've done. But give it a week and I'll be snapping at your heals.
My work pc does a block in under 2 mins. Stupid bloody intel 3.4ghz. How dare it be faster then my home pc.
Dogg when you get your 3700+ let me know how fast it does a block in.

DOGG

04-01-2006, 02:22 PM

sure will :)

although i'll probably be getting an opteron instead and overclocking it.

rayjayjohnson

08-01-2006, 11:52 AM

damn lack of mac support, need to make my g4 do something useful.

guess ill have to fold proteins or something...

oggy

08-01-2006, 03:16 PM

done

DOGG

08-01-2006, 03:29 PM

done
Thx for attempting to join. Unfortunately you didn't follow the instructions and aren't part of the team.

oggy

08-01-2006, 03:38 PM

why doesnt this surprise me, i tried to join the zgeek.com team but it wouldnt let me, i`ll try and work it out!

DOGG

08-01-2006, 03:47 PM

dude dont reinstall the program (my extremely large brain tells me you just did).

READ THE INSTRUCTIONS FFS

How to join

Step 1: Make an account on the SeventeenOrBust (http://www.seventeenorbust.com/) website

Step 2: You MUST join team zgeek.com under "Team Affiliation" in "Preferances" after you log into the SB website. Enter your SB username into the client's config menu and also enter 'zgeek' under 'Team'.

Step 3: Make sure "Auto-start on windows boot" is ticked in the program's config menu otherwise you must start it manually each time. Also tick 'transmit intermediate blocks' if it isn't already.

oggy

08-01-2006, 03:50 PM

got it sorted......hehe

DOGG

08-01-2006, 03:54 PM

yes, thx for joining. there was no need to make a 2nd account though lol.

is it the case that you still have your old 'Oggy' account name in the SB client? If so, change it to 'oggster' or you'll be doing work for your old (non-zgeek) account

DOGG

08-01-2006, 03:58 PM

BTW i think you may have to hit 'start' in the program

munganah

08-01-2006, 05:10 PM

Oh toes, everyone is overtaking me.
And all I really wanted was to steal the top spot even if only for one day!

bollocks I say to your super high tech speedy puters.:fag:

Hey Tintin, what sort of system are you running?
similar processors me thinks, check out our work rates.

Tintin

08-01-2006, 05:30 PM

Hi munganah... yeah I noticed we are fairly similar. My comp is an AMD Athlon 64 3000+, upstairs my sister has a Celeron D 325+ (2.53 GHz) and downstairs the family computer is a 2.4 GHz Pentium. It goes without saying that my house is well heated. I'm currently scheming about how to get my neighbour's computer working for me.:8:

Don't worry, I too have the STallingU overtaking me blues.

P.S. I just noticed that I am ranked 1882 in terms of total production, and you are 1881!

oggy

08-01-2006, 05:32 PM

so it now works, twice!

DOGG

08-01-2006, 05:57 PM

so it now works, twice!
Are you sure it's all 100% good now?

You're still on 499.99 M cEMs just like 30 mins ago

munganah

08-01-2006, 06:13 PM

Don't worry, I too have the STallingU overtaking me blues.

P.S. I just noticed that I am ranked 1882 in terms of total production, and you are 1881!

I have been keeping a close watch on everyones progress for about a week now and I had my system off line most of today.
Then I turn it on and check out the stats:fag:
Should've left the damn thing off!

STallingU

08-01-2006, 06:32 PM

:1337:

DOGG

08-01-2006, 06:44 PM

so it now works, twice!
dude....

can u do work under 1 name it makes it much easier. either choose oggy or oggster and i'll kick the other name out of the team.

you can have multiple computers working under the 1 name. you don't really need to change anything besides the 'username' in the 'config' of the SB program.

STallingU

08-01-2006, 07:45 PM

L is kicking arse now. Am gonna have to put some more work computers on this program. I need to be no. 1.

munganah

08-01-2006, 07:48 PM

dude....

can u do work under 1 name it makes it much easier. either choose oggy or oggster and i'll kick the other name out of the team.

you can have multiple computers working under the 1 name. you don't really need to change anything besides the 'username' in the 'config' of the SB program.

oggy cant make anything easier!,besides the plick has multiple personalities so why not multiple usernames?:light:

munganah

08-01-2006, 07:51 PM

L is kicking arse now. Am gonna have to put some more work computers on this program. I need to be no. 1.

I shall also crank up another puter soon then you will all shake in fear of my supreme system power.

oggy

08-01-2006, 07:53 PM

dude....

can u do work under 1 name it makes it much easier. either choose oggy or oggster and i'll kick the other name out of the team.

kick out oggster......he is the imposter.

munganah

08-01-2006, 07:55 PM

kick out oggster......he is the imposter.

Are you sure?

oggy

08-01-2006, 07:56 PM

Are you sure?

i`m not sure.......i will ask him!

DOGG

08-01-2006, 09:10 PM

lol ok... i'll kick him out 2morro once i've confirmed work is only coming in from oggy

11-01-2006, 01:02 PM

L is kicking arse now. Am gonna have to put some more work computers on this program. I need to be no. 1.

I think :1337: :mdr:

Now if only I could get the dual Opteron running the client ;) It is a little tricky because it is running Xen virtual servers at the moment. *sigh*

For a couple of days there team zGeek were rating higher than TeamNinja (who are like 2nd in terms of total production) Go team!

STallingU

11-01-2006, 01:15 PM

I've had to turn it off on my home pc untill I get the thing from crashing every 30mins. I don't know if its this little program or java. I've uninstalled both and it is now stable. But can't get it to install any new programs that I have downloaded.

DOGG

11-01-2006, 02:23 PM

was your comp crashing completely? like a heat related issue? or BSOD?

12-01-2006, 12:04 PM

Hey there all... I just wanted to let you all know I have been seeing a bit of weird behaviour with the SB17 client. It took a while to figure out but it seems that the calculation rates of the client slowly drop as time goes by.

Initially I thought this may be a computer specific issue but over the past few days I have monitored it on the six computers I have running the client and they all have the same issue.

The P4 2.4GHz beside me is only running the client and nothing else. It kicks off at about 1.5M cEMs/s and across a 48 hour period it drops slowly to around 0.9M cEMs/s ... A reboot and all is back up at full speed.

Same goes for my workstation... Athlon 2600+ kicks off at 1.0M cEMs/s and after 24 hours is sitting at 0.7M cEMs/s... Weird.

Is anyone else seeing anything similar with their setups?

12-01-2006, 12:31 PM

Shite... sometime in the last 24 hours I apparently spiked my calculations to 600M cEMs/s ... W00t!

http://www.seventeenorbust.com/stats/users/user.mhtml?userID=10442

DOGG

12-01-2006, 01:15 PM

oggy

12-01-2006, 06:58 PM

hows my small minute contribution going?

DOGG

12-01-2006, 07:10 PM

any contribution is cool :)

just curious... what machine u got? why the low performance?

12-01-2006, 07:11 PM

hows my small minute contribution going?

Now you bring it up... I have been meaning to ask you what you are running to be able to do such a low calculation rate??

munganah

13-01-2006, 07:07 AM

Go on Oggy, tell them how small your e-wang is....
/snigger

oggy

13-01-2006, 07:35 AM

this puter is so old and slow it has a crank handle on it, but it does me fine.

P3/550.......must be time to upgrade!

DOGG

13-01-2006, 10:21 AM

i'll send you a free P3/667 if u'll pay for shipping.

oggy

13-01-2006, 10:34 AM

i'll send you a free P3/667 if u'll pay for shipping.

woooohooooo, FREEBIES, now ya talkin high speed computer, is there any point in upgrading to 667?

not that i have any plans to upgrade to anything else either.

jackle

13-01-2006, 09:00 PM

A free upgrade is a good upgrade. It's like overclocking, but without the heat issues :)

DOGG

14-01-2006, 01:21 PM

I had a drink last night at the friend's house where the P3 is sitting. But i was too pissed to rip it out the motherboard. I'll get it for u next time oggy :)

Just finished building a 3700+... I'll get SB going on that.

jackle

14-01-2006, 06:30 PM

Now you bring it up... I have been meaning to ask you what you are running to be able to do such a low calculation rate??
And what collection of boxes are you running to get 4.8M cEMs/sec?

DOGG

16-01-2006, 05:34 PM

Dogg when you get your 3700+ let me know how fast it does a block in.
About 3:10
About 1,300,000 cEMs/sec

This is just the first block i only did a small test.

Now this isn't default speeds: 3700 san diego running at

CPU: 2630.38mhz
HHT: 250.51mhz (x3 = 751.53mhz)
RAM: 202.34mhz (2.5-3-3-6 1T)
PCI & PCI-E @ default

I think ram bandwidth plays a good part in pefromance.

I have to experiment still and get the max potential out of it. This is just rough overclocking.

oggy

16-01-2006, 07:53 PM

Tintin

17-01-2006, 03:18 AM

A couple of members of the team don't seem to be running the program, e.g. chodemaster, the mightyphill, timace and Doitle. Remember to set the config to auto-start on Windows boot guys!

DOGG

17-01-2006, 01:46 PM

A couple of members of the team don't seem to be running the program, e.g. chodemaster, the mightyphill, timace and Doitle. Remember to set the config to auto-start on Windows boot guys!
Yeah i'm taking care of that. Doitle can't even complete one block because his computer is too shit to handle the heat. I'll remove him once i confirm he won't be participating.

Timace joined ages ago but had computer troubles and he's gonna get crunching once he's back in action.

As for chodemaster, i see him active in zgeek but no work being submitted. If this persists i'll fire off a PM asking him if he plans on staying in the team. Not sure what's up with themightyphill.

I give em time. If they don't submit anything for half a month to a month, i fire off PMs.

oggy

17-01-2006, 02:14 PM

i am the little engine that could, i think i can, i think i can, i think i can!

DOGG

17-01-2006, 04:01 PM

hehe... go oggy :)

we appear to have a new member - Bill - anyone know who he is?

And he's done more work in half a day than all your work combined oggy lol. i'll get that cpu for u man when i have free time. just made the new 3700 and i'll be making another in a day or 2 to replace my other machine.

DaBill

17-01-2006, 09:43 PM

:nod: Bill would be me. :D

munganah

17-01-2006, 11:47 PM

oggy

17-01-2006, 11:52 PM

Neighbors: Total Production
Rank Username Production (cEMs) Acct. Age
1650 munganah (profile) 3.708 T 32.7 days
1651 danielendara5 (profile) 3.704 T 348.4 days
1652 Tintin (profile) 3.704 T 31.1 days

Seems to be a battle going on here Tintin lol.
I had you for a day but lost it again.
I'll get ya eventually, then Dogg is next in my sights.

how long did i take for you to post that?

you`re just waiting for your next month to begin......i`m at 800meg, 11 days into the month.......bastards.

DOGG

18-01-2006, 10:17 AM

:nod: Bill would be me. :D
And bill gets rep :) Thanks for joining.

Neighbors: Total Production
Rank Username Production (cEMs) Acct. Age
1650 munganah (profile) 3.708 T 32.7 days
1651 danielendara5 (profile) 3.704 T 348.4 days
1652 Tintin (profile) 3.704 T 31.1 days

Seems to be a battle going on here Tintin lol.
I had you for a day but lost it again.
I'll get ya eventually, then Dogg is next in my sights.
HA-HA-Ha-Ha-ha-ha.....ha ha ha

Keep dreaming young fella. I've got my new 2847mhz AMD64 on the case. And there will probably be another 2847mhz beast on the case within a week. That's 5.6 GHz of raw AMD power. I estimate my rate could peak at around 2.73M "Last Day" rate.

What happened to stallingu? He used to be doing 3M+/day now he's on 0.

18-01-2006, 11:46 AM

What happened to stallingu? He used to be doing 3M+/day now he's on 0.

From his last post I think StallingU was having machine crash issues.

I had to repurpose one of the P4s here so I am back down to 4.5M cEMs/s :D Tasted the lofty heights of 5.5M for a week there.

Welcome to daBill ... consider yourself repped!!!

Dogg: What are you running OS-wise on your new beastie? If Windows are you finding the speed noticeable? And what were you stepping up from CPU-wise?

18-01-2006, 12:05 PM

And what collection of boxes are you running to get 4.8M cEMs/sec?

Current systems running the client:

Intel P4 2.4GHz
AMD Athlon 2600+ 1.92GHz
AMD Athlon 2400+ 1.99GHz (weird)
AMD Athlon 1600+ 1.4GHz
AMD Duron 900
Intel P3 866MHz

Last week I had another P4 1.8GHz running as well.

I have found that the client seems to run faster on Intel based machines which goes against what I understand of CPU pipelines etc.

cheers
L

DOGG

18-01-2006, 12:58 PM

Dogg: What are you running OS-wise on your new beastie? If Windows are you finding the speed noticeable? And what were you stepping up from CPU-wise?
I'm running XP SP2. The speed is much better because the machine this replaced had only 768 ram (256 for 95% of it's life). It was a 133x10=1333mhz athlon but would only run at 100*13=1300mhz lately. So it had a disabled bus and lost 33mhz. No, it wasn't the extra 512 ram stick.

So going to 1 gig ram, 2.5x more speed, yeah there's definitely a difference.

Current systems running the client:

Intel P4 2.4GHz
AMD Athlon 2600+ 1.92GHz
AMD Athlon 2400+ 1.99GHz (weird)
AMD Athlon 1600+ 1.4GHz
AMD Duron 900
Intel P3 866MHz

Last week I had another P4 1.8GHz running as well.

I have found that the client seems to run faster on Intel based machines which goes against what I understand of CPU pipelines etc.

cheers
L
The reason for it running faster on the intels is probably because recently SB introduced SSE2 instructions into their client to make it faster. The old athlons don't have SSE2. I believe the intels generally have a larger cache as well which always helps with this type of task.

Also, possibly this program requires more bandwidth, which the intel platforms have. I'll be able to tell once i build a 2nd machine and overclock to the same CPU speed but with more RAM mhz.

jackle

18-01-2006, 04:04 PM

Yay, cracked 1.04M for my daily average yesterday after bringing on the old 1800+ to complement my 3200+ :)

And we're creeping up to the top 100 in total production - 107 atm.

18-01-2006, 04:17 PM

Yay, cracked 1.04M for my daily average yesterday after bringing on the old 1800+ to complement my 3200+ :)

And we're creeping up to the top 100 in total production - 107 atm.

Yeah we should be Top 100 in less than a week.

Every team from us (#107) to #100 are no longer producing results. The team that is still doing work is "The Knights That Say Ni" at #99.

cheers
L

Tintin

18-01-2006, 06:17 PM

Yes munganah we seem to be bumping against each other in the figures a lot! But my main objective at the moment is just to create as much space between myself and STallingU now that he's incapacitated (sporting of me)!

oggy

18-01-2006, 08:36 PM

i dont check my efforts, as i know they are miniscule in comparison, but it could be that miniscule bit that puts the team geek up there.

i dont like the new home page on here.......!

munganah

19-01-2006, 09:17 AM

W00t, looks like I had a spike bwahhahahahahaaa.

1 Lbrisvegas 8.30 T cEMs 2.84 M cEMs/sec 1.86 M cEMs/sec
2 munganah 4.06 T cEMs 1.38 M cEMs/sec 3.48 M cEMs/sec
3 DOGG 4.04 T cEMs 515.50 K cEMs/sec 259.13 K cEMs/sec
4 Tintin 3.89 T cEMs 1.39 M cEMs/sec 544.08 K cEMs/sec

:1337: :liar: :light:

oggy

19-01-2006, 09:47 AM

15 oggy 29.25 G cEMs 31.49 K cEMs/sec 0 cEMs/sec
:cheer: :wow: :raspberry

DOGG

19-01-2006, 12:23 PM

anyone else having trouble connecting to the server? My client can't get new work units.

19-01-2006, 01:09 PM

anyone else having trouble connecting to the server? My client can't get new work units.

Yep all my clients are showing server too busy!

Okay you would not believe it but... 17orbust forgot to renew their domain name!!! :doh:

See here for discussion: http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10713

I am going to try entering the IP address directly into the client and see what happens.

OK ... If you enter the following IP into the client config instead of the domain name it will start working again: 69.9.160.186

cheers
L

munganah

19-01-2006, 08:35 PM

Yep all my clients are showing server too busy!

Okay you would not believe it but... 17orbust forgot to renew their domain name!!! :doh:

See here for discussion: http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10713

I am going to try entering the IP address directly into the client and see what happens.

OK ... If you enter the following IP into the client config instead of the domain name it will start working again: 69.9.160.186

cheers
L

nice work fella!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to L again.

DOGG

20-01-2006, 03:05 AM

See here for discussion: http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10713
OK ... If you enter the following IP into the client config instead of the domain name it will start working again: 69.9.160.186
You may have to restart your client for it to actually start attempting to contact that address. Mine wouldn't connect even though i pressed save in the config menu.

Tintin

20-01-2006, 03:29 AM

The workaround seems to be ok.

In a similar vein to my previous post, the current situation seems to be a great chance for us to pull a bit of a Steven Bradbury, at least for the time being. Thanks to many of our fast responses to the situation, our team is rated #11 for last day's rate (up from about 18) at the moment. Some other people are still to change the address. The overall project graph dropped down sharply, the flattening indicates to me that old versions of the software had a different address set.

DOGG

20-01-2006, 02:04 PM

I'll me doing a mass message PM to all team members to let them know of the change.

oggy

20-01-2006, 03:56 PM

welli changed my configy thingy like directed as per PM, let me know if its not working.......woooohoooooo.....cold beer!

24-01-2006, 06:41 PM

Congratulations team! We just made position #100 in Total Production.

:ride: Do a little dance, make a little love, get down tonight :ride:

DOGG

25-01-2006, 01:51 PM

Woohoo go team!

Oggy: Sorry man i'm taking my time with getting that P3 to u... I'll be having to build another machine in a day or 2 and i'm just getting sick of all the computer problems and computer this computer that. Have to build a computer for a friend too. And my ipod just fucked up. Arrrrgh fucking computers!

oggy

25-01-2006, 05:51 PM

Kez

29-01-2006, 06:01 PM

I havent joined, but if you guys do a google search for "seventeenorbust", this thread is ranked 3rd in google ;).

Tintin

29-01-2006, 06:16 PM

<Marge Simpson> Slow and steady wins the race!

Yesterday, we were ranked 99th in terms of total production. It was our 100th day!

hehehe

Neighbors: Last Day's Rate
Rank Username Rate (cEMs/sec) Acct. Age
[Climbed 46 slots yesterday!] 247 c2h5oh (profile) 1.092 M 4.5 days
[Climbed 29 slots yesterday!] 248 zimmer (profile) 1.091 M 3.6 days
[Climbed 21 slots yesterday!] 249 Tintin (profile) 1.086 M 42.8 days
[Climbed 17 slots yesterday!] 250 munganah (profile) 1.086 M 44.5 days
[Climbed 22 slots yesterday!] 251 RicovanderPol (profile) 1.080 M 216.9 days

munganah

29-01-2006, 09:36 PM

30-01-2006, 12:49 PM

Get off me mang!
You aint having that 2nd spot dude so get your eyes off of it.

You are both welcome to come and join me! :lol:

DOGG

30-01-2006, 02:51 PM

I havent joined, but if you guys do a google search for "seventeenorbust", this thread is ranked 3rd in google ;).
Mad fucking shit! It's even ahead of SB's own wikipedia section.

munganah

30-01-2006, 05:00 PM

You are both welcome to come and join me! :lol:

Cant see that happening in a hurry d00d.
Your systems putting out more tests than all of ours put together.

Kez

30-01-2006, 06:21 PM

Mad fucking shit! It's even ahead of SB's own wikipedia section.

I just realised where I have a PC running all the time doing fuck all. My office.

I'll install this gem once I get all of my work out of the way for the week, and let it run 24/7.

DOGG

31-01-2006, 02:16 PM

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Kez again.

jackle

02-02-2006, 01:31 PM

Goddammit, I just put it on my little sister's Pentium M 1.5GHz and it's getting nearly the same rate as my Athlon XP 3200+. :horseshit

DOGG

02-02-2006, 06:55 PM

If that's a laptop, it'll eat it's battery in no time. Only run it on laptops if u have them plugged into a wall.

I'm getting 2440000.0 on my A64 :)

oggy

02-02-2006, 11:29 PM

i`ve broken out the pen and paper and crunching numbers faster than my pc...

jackle

03-02-2006, 01:36 AM

If that's a laptop, it'll eat it's battery in no time. Only run it on laptops if u have them plugged into a wall.

Meh, it barely gets used, let alone unplugged!

munganah

03-02-2006, 07:12 PM

It seems to be running heaps faster now-averaging around 2+m cEMs/sec.
Which is a good thing cause the test I'm doing atm is over 4000 blocks!
That's about 3 or 4 days crunching.

oggy

03-02-2006, 07:42 PM

It seems to be running heaps faster now-averaging around 2+m cEMs/sec.
Which is a good thing cause the test I'm doing atm is over 4000 blocks!
That's about 3 or 4 days crunching.

3 or 4 weeks on my rocket...

munganah

07-02-2006, 11:01 AM

It seems to be running heaps faster now-averaging around 2+m cEMs/sec.
Which is a good thing cause the test I'm doing atm is over 4000 blocks!
That's about 3 or 4 days crunching.

w00t, should wind up this monster of a test today:goodluck: 600 blocks to go!

Tintin, what are you running now?
You went flying past me about 2 days ago and you seem to be picking steam.

DOGG

07-02-2006, 02:15 PM

Looks like we have e new member - jasebert

but it appears as he only submitted one workunit. could be another guy with crap cooling :(

oggy: I'll ship that p3 & ram soon man lol sorry pretty busy atm.

07-02-2006, 02:55 PM

Looks like we have e new member - jasebert

but it appears as he only submitted one workunit. could be another guy with crap cooling :(

Or he might not be perpetually connected to the net :)

Tintin

07-02-2006, 10:08 PM

Ah yes... my work rate seemed to jump up suddenly a few days ago (sorry!). I didn't add any machines or do anything unusual. Maybe I've got a fairy godmother looking after me! :pclove: It boosted me up nicely, but the rate has just dropped back down now! :(

The team's doing really well! We're almost back up to the rate we had when STallingU left! Where is that guy?

GutterClown

07-02-2006, 11:05 PM

Done.

Bring on the +rep spanking stick.

DOGG

08-02-2006, 12:40 AM

The team's doing really well! We're almost back up to the rate we had when STallingU left! Where is that guy?
His main machine couldn't handle the heat and kept crashing. So i think he removed it from all machines. I've put him in the ex-members section.

Done.

Bring on the +rep spanking stick.
Not until you read the instructions!

GutterClown

08-02-2006, 01:56 AM

Not until you read the instructions!

...*sniff*..Nazi :(

Done.

764.155 K cEMs/sec
is that good?

Kez

08-02-2006, 08:47 AM

My number crunching goodness is on like donkey kong. :D

This feels like Seti@Home when I had 12 PC's crunching under my name. But without the 12 PC's crunching radio stuffs.

jasebert

08-02-2006, 09:05 AM

Our work has blocked that port off, so I am going onto my iBurst card which uploads stuff. So it will come in spurts. Ha ha ha, come in spurts. I am funny

DOGG

08-02-2006, 09:17 AM

...*sniff*..Nazi :(

Done.

764.155 K cEMs/sec
is that good?
It's decent. But you can't really tell at this particular time because some tests are being put out which have artificially inflated rates. For example i'm pushing 2+ million right now. However it should be more like 1.4

Don't worry, oggy is running a p3 500 i think. Not for long though i'm shipping him a 667 with extra ram this week.

DOGG

08-02-2006, 09:25 AM

My number crunching goodness is on like donkey kong. :D

This feels like Seti@Home when I had 12 PC's crunching under my name. But without the 12 PC's crunching radio stuffs.
As with GutterClown (amongst others), your contribution is appreciated.

HOWEVER

You are contributing to my early death by being another person who didn't read the simplest of instructions. :chair:

I'm editing the original post with bold red text at the top.

Kez

08-02-2006, 09:34 AM

What instruction's didn't I read????

I've joined ZGeek in the program and on the SB website...

Unless you've missed something, I've followed everything to the dot.

:( *cry*

DOGG

08-02-2006, 09:35 AM

ok NOW it works... probably you missed the website part

damn i'm fast. but i can't give u rep, must spread etc...

DOGG

08-02-2006, 09:38 AM

Just reminding people... Please if you have room and can be fucked, edit your sig with the link to this thread. I'll copy the instructions

If you're on the team, please put a "Zgeek SeventeenOrBust Team" link in your signature if you have room. The way you do this is to click "User CP" then "edit signature" and insert this:

[ URL= "http://forums.zgeek.com/showthread.php?t=42094"]Zgeek SeventeenOrBust Team[/url]

without the space between the [ and URL. I reckon it'll get more people to view the thread and possibly join.

Kez

08-02-2006, 09:42 AM

ok NOW it works... probably you missed the website part

NEIN >.<!

Ich habe nie das website vermißt, da ich Gott bin! Sie sind der Landarbeiter, der vermißte! Oder SB sind Landarbeiter und haben ein Scheißesystem. Ha

DOGG

08-02-2006, 09:49 AM

Hahaha man babelfish is a laugh. I translated a response to german, then back to english just to see the outcome. It's way off.

Kez

08-02-2006, 10:44 AM

Benutzen Sie googlelanauges (http://translate.google.com). Viel leistungsfähiger und powerfull.

GutterClown

08-02-2006, 10:47 AM

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6885/manysome7fk.png

weeeeeee, not bad for a standard 2400+ eh? (damn mainboard with no overclocking...)

DOGG

08-02-2006, 11:26 AM

It's a decent rate gutterclown. Mobo with no OC options? eeeewwwww....

Benutzen Sie googlelanauges (http://translate.google.com). Viel leistungsfähiger und powerfull.
I think altavista & google both use the same translation engine

08-02-2006, 11:45 AM

It's a decent rate gutterclown. Mobo with no OC options? eeeewwwww....

I think altavista & google both use the same translation engine

That they do... Systrans (http://www.systransoft.com/) ... very expensive :)

Kez

08-02-2006, 11:48 AM

Google bilden es eine Scheißelast leistungsfähiger und genau dann.

jasebert

08-02-2006, 11:51 AM

I am running it on an IBM Centrino running at 1.5, so mine definantly aint that fast.....

GutterClown

08-02-2006, 12:13 PM

Kez

08-02-2006, 12:32 PM

Ich betrachte, laufen lassend zu Hause dieses auf meinem Athlon 64 und PC meines Vatis auch und mein Haupttheater-PC möglicherweise.

08-02-2006, 12:41 PM

Ich betrachte, laufen lassend zu Hause dieses auf meinem Athlon 64 und PC meines Vatis auch und mein Haupttheater-PC möglicherweise.

Auf englisch bitte?

I think you said something about your PC, your Dad's PC and a media PC?

DOGG

08-02-2006, 12:51 PM

I am running it on an IBM Centrino running at 1.5, so mine definantly aint that fast.....
This program will absolutely eat your battery. Unless you work with it plugged into a socket.

You probably already know this but i'm just warning ya in case you don't.

DOGG

08-02-2006, 12:59 PM

Oh, er before I forget. My School (yeah the one I'm bitching about in Teachers and ...) Is talking about chucking the interwebs on some classroom computers (fucking small school, so only about 6 computers) I believe they will only put the net on two, but because I'm one of the two guys who keeps the computers up and running, I can probably share it via the network we have.

So, should be two maybe six Celerons (hey, better than nothing) running between 4 - 8 hours per day. (weekdays)
I dont know when I'll be able to rig them up, But if the opportunity arises...
Possible 30 years prison for installing computer program

For those who aren't up to speed, a brief synopsis: In 1999, David McOwen was a system configurator in the Georgia school system. During the course of his work, he installed the RC5 client on multiple computers in that system. Did he have permission? We don't know at this point, but that is not even the REAL issue.

http://forum.zgeek.com/showthread.php?t=45503

munganah

08-02-2006, 03:17 PM

GutterClown

08-02-2006, 03:26 PM

Possible 30 years prison for installing computer program

For those who aren't up to speed, a brief synopsis: In 1999, David McOwen was a system configurator in the Georgia school system. During the course of his work, he installed the RC5 client on multiple computers in that system. Did he have permission? We don't know at this point, but that is not even the REAL issue.

http://forum.zgeek.com/showthread.php?t=45503
School. Mathematics. I'm sure they'll let me install a little program that helps Mathamatics. if not, They suck monkey balls.

anyway, its a private school, and like I said I'm one of the Tech guys, so I can swing them ;)

Doing things to computers without telling the owners?? Who ME?? Noo.... :whistle:

08-02-2006, 03:29 PM

Possible 30 years prison for installing computer program

blah blah blah blah blah something about getting in trouble blah blah blah blah

http://forum.zgeek.com/showthread.php?t=45503

Scaremongerer! :D

08-02-2006, 03:32 PM

fuckin monster tests atm.:goodluck:
I see Guterclown is pulling a big one too(no not your cock,apparently thats like a cashew), anyone else getting massive tests?
I like to get through atleast 1 a day, else I just dont feel like I'm contributing.
That last one took 5 days
:8:

I believe we are all getting huge tests... I've got one that is 7250 blocks at the moment.

There appears to be heaps more blocks per test but the test rate is up too.

jasebert

08-02-2006, 10:51 PM

My current one is down to 3885 blocks.

DOGG

09-02-2006, 01:52 PM

wow... i've been doing this one test for 8 days now.

http://img493.imageshack.us/img493/6369/test3wg.png

This reminds me... please get rid of any tests you have pending but there has been no work performed on them for a long time.

Kez

10-02-2006, 08:36 AM

I've been running one test for the past 48 hours, and now I had to reboot as I had a minor incident over night. I paused the work unit, and rebooted, and lost it.

It only have 45 blocks to go on it. :(

Edit: Yeehaw! I fixed it.

DOGG

10-02-2006, 11:59 AM

You can just reset normally. The prog saves the last thing it did and will resume as it starts up after windows loads.

jasebert

10-02-2006, 01:43 PM

Kez, I had to do the same thing and it picked up a new one. How do I fix it?

Kez

10-02-2006, 01:59 PM

You have to edit the registry to do it!

HKLM\SOFTWARE\LhDn\sob\cache

Edit the "k" and "n" keys in there with their respective numbers from your pending unit page on the website! (http://www.seventeenorbust.com/account/testsPending.mhtml). K = little number, N = big fuck off sized number.

Then the cache will kick back in and keep working from where you left off.

It's twice now the program hasn't saved the things to the registry for me. I've checked the log and sometimes it has a random error of not saving.

oggy

11-02-2006, 04:48 AM

update for you dogg, my pc is offline for a few weeks, (moving house, telstra still hasnt completed street work, etc, etc, etc,)so no contributions as such, still post pc bits to the same addy i gave you, its good for a few weeks, tho if you dont get it posted within a few weeeks then i`ll give you my new addy via pm...woohoo, big block 667 coming!

DOGG

11-02-2006, 11:25 AM

Cool man i got the box. I just gotta pack all the shit in and go get it weighed. It should ship on monday.

DOGG

11-02-2006, 03:50 PM

I'm doing 2.463M when my machine is on 24/7.

What kind of machine do u have kez and what's it clocked at? You're doing 2.252M right now

DOGG

13-02-2006, 12:37 PM

oggy

15-02-2006, 05:20 PM

I've just finished packing the box. I also gave you 4 bonus sticks of ram which you can play with. Going to post it in about 10 minutes :)

how`s our postal system? posted it 10 minutes ago and i got it already!
now i got more sticks of ram than slots, kid`s pc will have them...cheers..back online in a week or so...and will have 3 pc`s crunchin`...
you da` man...or DOGG, or something...thanks a kazillion mate...!

DOGG

16-02-2006, 04:20 PM

no worries dude :)

just testing to see if i get zcash for replies to my threads now.

and also saying well done team. We're sitting at #84

frednurk

17-02-2006, 12:42 AM

Well after raping this months bandwidth allowance thanks to DOGG's vid collection- I might as well put the crapbox to some use.

DOGG

17-02-2006, 02:01 AM

Well after raping this months bandwidth allowance thanks to DOGG's vid collection- I might as well put the crapbox to some use.
Thanks for joining. But it says this in the first post:

IMPORTANT: If you are joining be sure to read "how to join" below.

<Goes off to have convulsions on the floor> http://www.nsknet.or.jp/~katoh/image/convulsion.GIF

DOGG

18-02-2006, 04:21 PM

OK good shit frednurk. You're on the team list and appear to have a decent rate going :) thx for joining.

ChodeMaster

21-02-2006, 07:57 AM

Heya... update regarding my non involvment of late

My main box has been packed away in a closet for the last month or so due to some long running and frustrating rennovations in the room it sits in, so I've not been doing any Seventeen or busting.

Anyways, room is now in order, and the box is back online and seventeen or busting once again. I won't guarantee it will be on 24/7 but it should be online more time than not.

jasebert

23-02-2006, 06:32 PM

Yay I am up to 1.18 T cEMs. Fucked if know what that means, but it must be good.

Tintin

23-02-2006, 09:14 PM

Munganah takes the 2nd spot again! It was heaven there for a few days... I lost hold of it because my rate has gone down ever since I started spending more time looking for a job!

No bites on my 300 zcash offer for new 17orbust n00bs yet.

munganah

24-02-2006, 06:03 AM

oggy

25-02-2006, 12:33 AM

well i`m a fuckin` pc wizard, tho it wasnt too hard, pc is now running at p3/667 with 320meg ram...its like fully sick mate...will have it online with in a few days...

munganah

25-02-2006, 01:57 PM

W00t. Only took me leike 2 weeks to pass you:8:

Nope, lost it again.
Babygirlz turned my pc off for a few hours and thats the end of that!

frednurk

26-02-2006, 12:25 AM

From Zgeek's teams stats: 6.666 M

We are teh devils. Now at overall rating of team #78.

jasebert

26-02-2006, 11:24 PM

I am now up to 9. w00t...

DOGG

27-02-2006, 01:55 AM

good work fellas

oggy

02-03-2006, 03:49 PM

back online...

munganah

02-03-2006, 04:53 PM

Just hanging on to second place.
Anyone turns off my pc I'll kill em.

oggy

02-03-2006, 05:38 PM

i have 237 blocks left in this test..at 1 per/ 15 minutes it should take me approx 59 hours...i think!

02-03-2006, 06:41 PM

Zgeek Overall rank #74

[Climbed 2 slots yesterday!] 651 DOGG 23.983 T
...
[Climbed 2 slots yesterday!] 681 Lbrisvegas 22.498T

Watch out DOGG! I'm coming to get you :D

oggy

03-03-2006, 12:56 AM

munganah

03-03-2006, 06:59 AM

oggy

03-03-2006, 10:26 AM

:secret: Nothing about your pc is normal:mdr:

nothing is normal about yo mama, no wait, thats my mama, dont you be dissin` my mama boy...

my pc is whizzing along nicely...

03-03-2006, 11:48 AM

i have just noticed that my cpu is running at 100% when 17 is running, tho this is only p3 667, should it be running at that rate because of 17?
with out 17 running it uses between 10 - 40%
this pc also uses 216mb of ram memory just at idle with nothing going...

is this normal?

If your normal usage uses 10-40% of CPU then 17orBust will use the remainder ie. 90-60%

The good part is that the client behaves itself and lets most other programs take priority and I have virtually no performance issues with the client running.

oggy

03-03-2006, 02:54 PM

If your normal usage uses 10-40% of CPU then 17orBust will use the remainder ie. 90-60%

The good part is that the client behaves itself and lets most other programs take priority and I have virtually no performance issues with the client running.

my system runs fine with 17 running, just thought it weird the CPU was goin` mental...184 blocks in this test to go.

DOGG

03-03-2006, 07:19 PM

my system runs fine with 17 running, just thought it weird the CPU was goin` mental...184 blocks in this test to go.
SB takes up all spare cycles. Which means anything the system isn't using, SB will. So it will always be using 100% unless something else needs more power.

oggy

03-03-2006, 07:44 PM

SB takes up all spare cycles. Which means anything the system isn't using, SB will. So it will always be using 100% unless something else needs more power.

more power, ugh, ugh, ugh!

oggy

04-03-2006, 09:01 AM

118 blocks to go on this test, nice to see my stats changing, slowly but surely!

oggy

07-03-2006, 08:18 AM

4357 blocks in this test...i`ll be back in a few years with these results!

DOGG

07-03-2006, 01:38 PM

We're #70 today..

but the rate is alarmingly down:
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7383/rate9mh.png

07-03-2006, 01:54 PM

We're #70 today..

but the rate is alarmingly down:
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7383/rate9mh.png

Oops my bad... I had a couple of computers paused in their block processing. Restarted testing now so there should be another 2M cEMs/s or so added to the rate.

DOGG

07-03-2006, 02:22 PM

nice man, nice... that should fix the rate a reasonable amount

09-03-2006, 06:22 PM

Zgeek #69 Overall W00t!

DOGG

10-03-2006, 10:44 AM

Yeah that's great. But the continually dropping rate is alarming me

DOGG

10-03-2006, 11:32 AM

RE: I've got one machine blue screening when I run the client..damn!

Sounds like a RAM problem :(

Too much OC? Too tight timings?

DOGG

10-03-2006, 02:07 PM

Well, that $5,000 in rewards thread certainly helped.

Roddez alone is pushing 6+ cEMs... which is great because that's about the same amount of work spots 5 to 18 combined put out.

roddez

10-03-2006, 02:18 PM

Well, that $5,000 in rewards thread certainly helped.

Roddez alone is pushing 6+ cEMs... which is great because that's about the same amount of work spots 5 to 18 combined put out.

Glad to be of service. I think the temperature in the office has just gone up about 10 degrees. . .

Now if there was only a way to remove the 17 icon from the task tray, I would install it on a stack of other computers. :)

DOGG

10-03-2006, 02:26 PM

Be careful dude. Some computers are shit and will overheat and crash.

roddez

10-03-2006, 02:48 PM

Be careful dude. Some computers are shit and will overheat and crash.

Fair point.

I just stuck it on another server. I'll see how long before my client notices. . .

DOGG

10-03-2006, 02:56 PM

OMFG roddez.... 7.54M cEMs/sec.... looks like you'll get your $1,000 reward in a couple of days.

10-03-2006, 03:25 PM

OMFG roddez.... 7.54M cEMs/sec.... looks like you'll get your $1,000 reward in a couple of days.

Tidy work there! What machines are you running it on?

roddez

10-03-2006, 03:45 PM

Tidy work there! What machines are you running it on?

Three desktops (1.8 - 3.0 Gig)
One Single CPU 1.8 Gig server
One Dual 3.06 Gig Zeon server

The Dual Zeon server isn't really running anywhere near capacity as Hyper threading is turned on and the CPU usage isn't climbing above about 50 percent. If I could use it to it's max capacity then the number should improve much higher.

Since most of this client's desktops are running a strict policy where they can't get to the status bar, I could in theory install it on another 10 computers. . . I might broach the subject with him on Monday. . .

By the same token, I don't know how long I can keep the numbers up. . .

cyberwired

10-03-2006, 04:43 PM

to max the cpu on a hyperthreading pc
open the program twice
go into task manager and right click and click set afinity
set each sb.exe to a different cpu
each will use 50% and max the pc :)

oggy

11-03-2006, 01:55 AM

RE: I've got one machine blue screening when I run the client..damn!

Sounds like a RAM problem :(

i got heaps of ram...:mdr: want me to post it back?:mdr:

having pc issues in our house at the moment...looks like it might be time to upgrade a few...the P4 1.8 runs as slow as an old mole...my P3 667 runs quicker...and the kids are whinging that they want another computer...if i eventually get this network of pc`s up and running i should have 4 puters crunchin...eventually!

evil

11-03-2006, 05:33 AM

Shit, no OS X client. Have Dell twin dual core CPUs with 2 gig of ram running 24 * 7 as of 10 minutes ago. Hopefully I can find the source somewhere, compile it and throw my 2 powerbooks at it too.

DOGG

11-03-2006, 11:10 AM

to max the cpu on a hyperthreading pc
open the program twice
go into task manager and right click and click set afinity
set each sb.exe to a different cpu
each will use 50% and max the pc :)
If you open it twice, won't it be doing the same work.... 2 times?

Or think about it.... SB uses reg values to tell it what workunit to do. So upon resetting the machine, both clients would be working on the same unit even if they worked on different ones beforehand????

i got heaps of ram...:mdr: want me to post it back?:mdr:

having pc issues in our house at the moment...looks like it might be time to upgrade a few...the P4 1.8 runs as slow as an old mole...my P3 667 runs quicker...and the kids are whinging that they want another computer...if i eventually get this network of pc`s up and running i should have 4 puters crunchin...eventually!
Dude get a 3700+. Cheap, very overclockable

DOGG

11-03-2006, 11:10 AM

11-03-2006, 12:46 PM

Shit, no OS X client. Have Dell twin dual core CPUs with 2 gig of ram running 24 * 7 as of 10 minutes ago. Hopefully I can find the source somewhere, compile it and throw my 2 powerbooks at it too.

Good luck with that compile... I'm assuming if it was easy then someone would have done it by now ;)

Yesterday I had a brief opportunity to install the SB client on a new Dell Inspiron 9400 with the T2300 Intel dual core processor @ 1.66GHz.

The 9400 is a tidy, huge notebook with a big widescreen and a weight that would make it a pain to carry around all the time. The screen has a high gloss surface which is a bit different :)

Results of the test... I'm making a wild guess that there are no processor optimisations in the client for a processor that only just went to market because it was only able to get 1.2M cEMs/s which I can tell you was VERY disappointing... I was expecting a nice big number. :(

DOGG: It has been amazing what a little zCash will do for the overall rate :) Here's hoping these guys stick around after they get their bribes.

DOGG

11-03-2006, 01:01 PM

DOGG: It has been amazing what a little zCash will do for the overall rate :) Here's hoping these guys stick around after they get their bribes.
Yeah it went WAY better than i expected. The rate is nice now.

Too bad only 2 (possibly 3) people took up the offer.

cyberwired

11-03-2006, 10:48 PM

If you open it twice, won't it be doing the same work.... 2 times?

Or think about it.... SB uses reg values to tell it what workunit to do. So upon resetting the machine, both clients would be working on the same unit even if they worked on different ones beforehand????

Dude get a 3700+. Cheap, very overclockable

they both seemed to be working on something different, but having one open seemed to do the trick although it is slightly slower

evil

12-03-2006, 12:25 AM

Good luck with that compile... I'm assuming if it was easy then someone would have done it by now ;)

You assumed correctly .... it's written for the x86 architecture and doesn't support anything else. Maybe it is time to upgrade to the MacBook ;)

jackle

12-03-2006, 09:47 PM

Wow, I thought I had a pretty decent rate going until all you new folks turned up!! Heheh, well, good for the team rate, think it was pushing high 20s, 30 :)

cyberwired

13-03-2006, 12:33 PM

sweet, pushed us to spot 68