Wine thread

[Colonel Kurtz]

Discussion debates and suggestions.

Debate your favourite wines, nominate some good drops, or just list your favourite bottles.

Personally, as preference I am a Penfolds man (St Henri, Bin389, Bin 407, Bin 128), but anything good and red will be well received.

Also I'd like to see things in categories ie under $10, $15 & $20

Carry on kids!

[banga]

im not reallya red man but have been known to have a de bortolli or 2 i would rather have a nice bottle of semmillion chardonay and i dont care how cheap it is lol

[Cassa]

If it doesn't taste like vinegary crap I'll drink it but of course some wines are better than others -McGuigan verdelho (not black label) is one that springs to mind, nice inexpensive wine that always tastes good (to me anyway). Much prefer white over red though rosemount cab sav is win.

[druid]

Jacob's Creek merlot.

[Uther Pendragon]

The other night I bought a cape mentelle cab sav 2000, it was fucking great. I highly recommend red wines from the margaret river.

At the moment my favourite white wines are from NZ, I don't mind the amberley chenin blanc though, its a decent drop.

[dozer]

Jacob's Creek merlot.

lol, damn exporters pretending this is a premium wine, its the fosters of wine.


forget wolf blass as a blender, this is the shiznit

http://www.putao.cn/label/australia/01/au_93_wirra_wirra-church_block.jpg

[Glompbot]

Drank half a glass of an allright red last night (this from a person who never used to like wine)

Seville Estate 2004 Shiraz

Thingy got it in with his first wine club crate (Australian Wine Collectors)

[Glompbot]

As for sparkling white, I think the nicest one I've had is the Perle Vintage Yellowglen....
Which was a good job for me because it was the first sparkling I'd tried to buy :D

[druid]

lol, damn exporters pretending this is a premium wine, its the fosters of wine.

I've certainly had worse wines. I don't think I claimed it's premium (and I don't touch Fosters).

I'm just waiting for someone to denounce merlot because they've watched Sideways.

[TheMightyPhill]

If you like it, drink it.

[Goat Boy]

Audrey Wilkinson (http://www.audreywilkinson.com.au/)'s verdelho 2001 was the best verdelho I've ever had. Her traminers are very good, as is the cabernet sauvignon 2002.
If you are going to the Hunter be sure to go here.

[Cassa]

I'll denounce merlot for you druid. I haven't seen sideways but I find merlot to be a bit too fruity for my tastes - I much prefer a good shiraz in reds, or cab sav for something mellower.

Ooh I need to go wine tasting again :( There's vineyards less than an hour's drive from my house...

[banga]

If you like it, drink it.

exactly !! if the wine appeals to your tastes then drink it ,whether it be a $5 or a $50 bottle go forth and guzzle :elefant:

[Cassa]

that's always been DumHed's motto and it usually works out well most of the time. I guess we're fortunate in Australia that price really hasn't much correlation to quality, for the most part - I've had $30+ wine that is fairly meh, and some $10 stuff that is fantastic.

[beowulf437]

I have always been partial to german wines my farorite being Zeller Schwartz Katz. It's not very expensive at $16.00 a bottle and it keeps well.

[dozer]

seems that you can only find hardys or jacobs creek here in blighty. theres a big gap in the market for wines of a better standard, its either that crappy stuff or the top end granges that seem to make it to europe. maybe they have trouble competing with the cheaper argentinian stuff.

i resent having to pay £6-8 for stuff id never drink at home and costs $4-5.

[Cassa]

Jacobs creek isn't that terrible but it certainly isn't worth *calculates* almost $AU20? Get fucked! You're being ripped off bad there.

[hazza]

I find merlot to be a bit too fruity for my tastes - I much prefer a good shiraz in reds, or cab sav for something mellower.




What?

[druid]

Jacobs creek isn't that terrible but it certainly isn't worth *calculates* almost $AU20? Get fucked! You're being ripped off bad there.

Costs around AUD14 here which seems about the average price for wine in general.

[TheMightyPhill]

The problem in Blighty is the bargain wineries like Lindemans and Jacobs from Oz and their equivilants in each other wine producing country in the world. They sell cheap as hell wine on deals and thus that is what people expect. £10 is considered to be an expensive bottle. Hence you won't find a lot of what we love at home here.

I agree with dozer though, there is a gap in the market, and with few exceptions I won't pay what they want for table wine.

[Cassa]

What?

It's how it tastes to me.

[Glompbot]

I highly recommend Dancart Ghost Gum Grove Vineyard Sauvignon Blanc 2003

For a white.... it doesn't have that wince-worthy taste at the end that whites usually do.


I don't know how much it cost, thingy got it from a wine tasting.

[Peach]

Cloudy Bay Sauvignon Blanc (rare as rocking horse shit over here).

[Uther Pendragon]

Dozer, there is a really good wine shop here in Clapham Junction (up on Northcote Rd) named Philglas and swiggot which specialises in Australian / NZ and Sth American wines.

They aren't super cheap but you can get all the non big label wines.

[SOC]

...rosemount cab sav is wine.
Fixed :D

Uther Pendragon and dozer are right, it's tough to find good Aussie wines here and the "vin ordinaire" we'd pay $5-$10 for back home costs upwards of $20 here. I tend to stick to the French and Italians - you can get some very good ones for £7-£12 a bottle, and even the cheaper Bulgarian merlots and Argentinian malbecs are pretty damn nice.

[Colonel Kurtz]

Had a very nice sub $10 bottle of Red the other day coutesy of Royale. I'm sure he'll pop along shortly to tell us what it was...

[BlueBoy]

I was given a bottle of Vasarelli Cab Sav Merlot 2003.
Hoping it's a good drop.

[royale]

...rosemount cab sav is wine fit for all but the best bologniase sauce.
Fixed properly ;) (Actually I dont mind Reosemount for a 'I don't recognise any other brands on the list' standby)

The good sub $10 red mentioned by the colonel was Three Brothers Reunion Shiraz (https://www.nicks.com.au/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductId=474758) which I'd give a healthy 7/10, but for a few $$ more you can have Heartland Shiraz (https://www.nicks.com.au/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductId=474679) which I found even more agreeable.

[banga]

im currently quaffing a sub $10 mathew lang chardonnay , its passable , ive always wondered what 500 dollar wine tastes like , does it make your wang hard or is it the same as our type of cheap crap taste but in a different bottle lol

[royale]

I've had '84 Grange- its probably > $500.
It was superb wine, but not 10X better than a $50 bottle, in fact I wouldn't rate it 2X better than some < $50 wines Ive had...but the again I'm not that much of a wine wanker to appreciate some of the finer details.

[Colonel Kurtz]

/signed

[hazza]

wirra wirra church block ftw, the vineyard is actually on a grave site. o.O

[Goat Boy]

I bet that wine would have a lot of body to it.


























Sorry.

[dozer]

i found a bottle of brown brothers 2003 shiraz for a nice £10. add some roasted lamb and a fire.

[Peach]

Hardy's Crest - Pinot Noir/Chardonnay fizz. Down to £4.99 from £9.99 a bottle in Tesco. Very passable.

[hazza]

Cab Sauv Cleanskin from BWS, code SM55, $6 very very very very very very drinkable. I had this at the start of the night and it wasn't an effort at all. Not very spicy or sharp, a very clean taste, probably a little weak for some and wasnt as full bodied as it could be, but god damn... $6 and i didnt have a headache.

[Glompbot]

Tonight I went out and bought T'gallant Holy Stone 2003 Pinot Noir... based purely upon the bottle looking nice.

$19 later, and I'm not disappointed

[Thyrd]

When I was working at a place called propack this year, I noticed that the wine we were bottling was called Sydney Harbour Rose. A little odd seeing as it was produced and bottled in SA.

[Colonel Kurtz]

I enjoyed a nice bottle of 'arrogant frog' the other day, a pretentious little wine from france, and specifically packagaed and marketed at the Australian amusing wine label market.

"2004 Arrogant Frog Ribet Red, Languedoc (France): $10
For the past few years, quirky brand names have been all the rage in the UK wine trade — like this cheeky little number, the Arrogant Frog. Originally designed for British supermarket shelves, a few containers of this cabernet merlot blend have been diverted to Australia by Woolworths and it's been leaping out the door of BWS stores across the country. Local wine drinkers are obviously relishing the wine's attractive dried herb and currant flavours, its elegant, savoury, southern French drinkability and its low price."

All said and done, it wasn't a bad drop, but Aussie reds have far more muscle (not to mention back hair :D)

[BtrFly]

my favourite all time white is a Viognier by Clonakilla wineries in canberra- a little expensive, but light and fruity, with just a hint of a bite. they are a boutique winery, and they sell out of their production before the next year is out.

that said, in a red i am in love with that punt road merlot from the yarra valley (from when we went wine tasting), and cant go past it for a bottle < $30.

[royale]

Current recommendations for great value reds-
2002 Two Churches Shiraz (Barossa) ($12.79 if 6 or more from Vintage Cellars)
2002 Richmond Grove Barossa Shiraz ($15.99 if 6 or more from Vintage Cellars)

Both are great drops, the Two Churches is fantastic value.

[ewe2]

I had a brilliant 2005 Wilson Vineyard Claire Valley riesling the other night, sounds like the Barossa had a great all round year for whites.

http://www.winestar.com.au/prod2097.htm

Yesterday it was 2005 Peter Lehmann semillon chardonnay, so a good year for them too :)

http://www.peterlehmannwines.com/ProductDetail.aspx?p=27&id=19

[Hit And Rum]

Went to Margaret River and picked up 10 bottles of Xanadu Cab Shiraz 2002 for $10 per bottle plus a free magnum. Gotta love sales in wineries that are in financial trouble!!

[hazza]

I enjoyed a nice bottle of 'arrogant frog' the other day, a pretentious little wine from france, and specifically packagaed and marketed at the Australian amusing wine label market.

"2004 Arrogant Frog Ribet Red, Languedoc (France): $10
For the past few years, quirky brand names have been all the rage in the UK wine trade — like this cheeky little number, the Arrogant Frog. Originally designed for British supermarket shelves, a few containers of this cabernet merlot blend have been diverted to Australia by Woolworths and it's been leaping out the door of BWS stores across the country. Local wine drinkers are obviously relishing the wine's attractive dried herb and currant flavours, its elegant, savoury, southern French drinkability and its low price."

All said and done, it wasn't a bad drop, but Aussie reds have far more muscle (not to mention back hair :D)



this stuff i think its fucking disgusting but its actually winning a fair few awards and gaining popularity, but gah i couldnt stand it.

[Glompbot]

www.wineaustralia2006.com.au

going to this show on the weekend

[ewe2]

interesting stats here (http://www.wineaustralia2006.com.au/cpa/htm/htm_article.asp?page_id=4).

im stunned to see three bendigo exhibitors there, and eight from heathcote(!). Downing Estate is known for reds and McIvor Estate also has a reputation. I'd be interested to hear if the Water Wheel Vineyards has decent chardy. Try the Clare Valley whites too!

[royale]

this stuff i think its fucking disgusting but its actually winning a fair few awards and gaining popularity, but gah i couldnt stand it.

Which is simply more evidence that your tastebuds are located slightly north of your rectum, which is about 2.5cm from your brain

[ewe2]

taylors 2004 clare valley riesling at $16.00 goes very bloody well with pasta. one of the keepers i think.

[Glompbot]

I decided to stock up the wine rack buffy and pirate got me for my birthday
So i went out and bought some random wines:

A Western Australian wine by Devils Lair called 'Fifth Leg' it is a 2006 Merlot Shiraz Cabernet Sauvignon rose. - $19.99

From the Mornington Peninsula I got a t'gallant Holy Stone 2003 'pinot noir fused with chardonnay' - $19.99

From Keyneton SA I have an Eden Valley 2005 Semillon by Henschke called 'lous' - $23.99 (aparantly the grapes used in this are over 50 years old or something)

The last one I purchased was a 2005 verdelho from Langhorne Creek in SA called
'Zonte's footstep' - $15.99


I'll let you know how they go

[hazza]

ive been told 2005 hunter valley semillions are very nice, theres a little gem from tyrells old winery 2005 which is only like 14 bucks and fucking great.

oh and try get your hands on a wynns coonawarra cab sauv 2001 its $31 but omg its good, i picked up 6 for free :D

[Cassa]

ive been told 2005 hunter valley semillions are very nice, theres a little gem from tyrells old winery 2005 which is only like 14 bucks and fucking great.

I've tried that one, it's very nice for such a price.

[Furball]

Goundrey reds I have found to be suprisingly smooth and flavoursome, they are $12-$16 depending where you go. Yellowtail reds are also fantastic for the price, similar to Goundrey.

If you go to liquorland or vintage cellars, they sometimes have in stock what are known as "cleanskins". They are usually (but not always) an unbranded wine, with a small white label stating the year and the variety. Sub ten dollar prices, not the worlds best but 80-85% as good as some wines in the $20-$30 price bracket...

[banga]

did anyone happen to buy one of the boxes of 6 unwooded cleanskin chardonnays that were on offer at bws about 2weeks ago for $11.90 , they werent bad i wish these bargains came arond more often :)

[hazza]

banga the stocks running low on that but weve still got some.

good specials that i know are coming up, wirra wirra church block should goto $18 or around that tomorrow, $16 if you buy 6 or more. fucking bargain.

oh and sapia the fith leg is going on special as well tomorrow, 3 for $33 or something, pretty fucking cheap.

[Glompbot]

Yeah, my wine rack is overflowing now... so I'm not in a rush to buy more.

[Glompbot]

Cassa gave me: Hunter Valley Scarborough 2005 pinot noir rose

[hazza]

my winerack consists of 5 bottles of wynns coonawarra cab sauv, a 2002 mt pleaseant 'elizabeth' semillon magnum, and some other assorted cleanskins.

need more reds... considering buying some 2002 coonawarra cockfighters ghost reserve cabsauv so good for only $30

[royale]

Dear Hazza,
You have obviously taken offence to my previous assertion that you have no idea about wine further to that I'll add that I don't believe working as a checkout chick at a budget bottle shop qualifies you to either deride cassas opinion nor to suggest a negative comment on a highly awarded product mentioned by a vastly more experienced wine drinking zgeeker.
While I believe that its pretty clear that you don't know your terroir from your derriere I would like to give you the opportunity to prove me wrong. Rather than produce useless one word post or list the latest special from the local BWS store (if anyone will miss them just go to http://www.beerwinespirits.com.au/asp/index.asp?sid=5&page=currentspecials) how about you impart to us you knowledge on the major differences between old and new world wines or if that is a little daunting why not give us a run down on Australia's major wine producing regions focusing on their main varieties and characteristics as well as your personal recommendations from them.
Regards
Royale

[BlueBoy]

Managed to track down Mordialloc Cellar Door's sister store in Moonee Ponds today.
The Valley Cellar Door has the same sort of range that the older store does, but they haven't set up the back room for drinking...yet.

Anyway, I picked up four bottles today:
- Mansfields High Country Gewurtztraminer 2005
- Gapstead Cab Sav 2001
- Geppetto Sav Blanc Semillon 2004 (yes, I'm addicted to this wine)
- Yarra Valley Cab Sav 1998 (I was recommended this after the dude saw the bottle of Gapstead I'd chosen.)

[Asmodeus]

bah.. wine.. makes me feel french and i just want to surrender to the telephone pole outside after putting on my mime makeup and smoking a cigarette.


besides, we all know that teh best wine comes out of a box

[ewe2]

The brand new dan murphy's in town has some great stuff, I was able to find the 2004 wilson vineyard riesling yum yum. I innocently enquired about a stocklist, didn't know they had 4000+ lines :)

[banga]

dan murphys is having a real good clearance for the poor people on boxes of chardonnay / cabenet merlot 12 bottles for $23.80 the chards is quite nice but thats just me go buy a bottle and see

[royale]

Just ordered the following (none of which I have tried but they come recommended from nicks.com.au. I will review when I have them)
2004 Grant Burge Miamba Shiraz
2004 Penny's Hill Red Dot Shiraz
2004 Zonte's Footstep Cabernet Malbec
2005 Woop Woop Shiraz
2003 Jim Barry Shiraz Cabernet Sauvignon
2005 Boundary Rider Cabernet Sauvignon Cabernet Franc
2005 Three Brothers Reunion Shiraz
My wine preferences tend to lean heavily towards Barossa shiraz- I like the body of warm climate shiraz and the balance that the Barossa tends to provide. Having said that, I will give anything a go including other full bodied reds, vic or tasmanian Pinot Noir (normal or rose), well chilled young yarra valley/new zealand whites in summer and aged whites when I can get my hands on a good one relatively inexpensively.

[Thyrd]

I'm buying a box of Peter Lehmann 2004 weighbridge chardonnay for Girl., 2000 reserve Semillon for Sapia and Blueboy will have to inform me whether he'd like a red or white wine. I'll be bringing them over at zmeet. :)

[Glompbot]

A BOX?!
I thought you said one bottle!!!

<3 thyrd

[hazza]

wewt

i now have a 2002 jacobs creek st hugo cab sauv MAGNUM in a display box. oo man its gonna be fucking good when i open it.

[Thyrd]

Well from the 14th to the 18th cellar door is having a sale for staff only, The box of chardonnay I'm getting Girl. will only cost $24. So I'll take advantage of that :D

[Thyrd]

wewt

i now have a 2002 jacobs creek st hugo cab sauv MAGNUM in a display box. oo man its gonna be fucking good when i open it.

Heh, I live right around the corner from Jacobs Creek.

[Girl.]

I feel so spoilt ;)

Thyrd is only buying me a box so he can empty half of it on my shoes. I know his devious ways.

[Thyrd]

No, that's what I'll be bringing a keg of beer & a barrel of wine for. :D

[Glompbot]

oh wow

this wine is described as a bit watery by a coworker, but he says it grows on you.

I have to say its just delicious
voyager estate margaret river 2005 sauvignon blanc semillon

[Thyrd]

I'm picking up the wine now

[Glompbot]

I'm picking up the wine now
how're you getting it to us?

[Thyrd]

Girl and I are working that out. Most probably I'll post the boxes to Girl, then give them to you guys at zmeet events.

[MAX POWER]

I've fallen pretty hard for sparkling reds lately.

The missus and I got 3 bottles of Wyndam sparkling shiraz while at the Hunter Valley last long weekend and it is to die for.

Can anyone recommend a good bottle of sparkling red to try next?

[Thyrd]

Today I was also enrolled in a wine appreciation course for work, starting next month and going for 10 weeks.

[Girl.]

I've fallen pretty hard for sparkling reds lately.

The missus and I got 3 bottles of Wyndam sparkling shiraz while at the Hunter Valley last long weekend and it is to die for.

Can anyone recommend a good bottle of sparkling red to try next?

I'm a big fan of them too. My absolute favourite is Chandon Sparkling Shiraz (about $25) but for a surprisingly good cheaper option I really like McGuigans Black Label Sparkling Shiraz at about $7.

[royale]

Just ordered the following (none of which I have tried but they come recommended from nicks.com.au. I will review when I have them)
2004 Grant Burge Miamba Shiraz
I was pretty keen to try this ones as the write-ups were good, region and varietal were right, and special price was good (was $21, down to $15). Unfortunately I was quite disappointed as it didn’t have the body I was expecting and in fact seemed to suggest a blend (there seemed to be a hint of Grenache, which I always puts me off). I’d give it a miss.

2005 Woop Woop Shiraz
A good wine at a great price. Pretty full bodied, a reasonably developed palate that defies it age. Great quaffer for $12


Just got the latest specials from St Hallett winery- will certainly be indulging in their Faith Cab Sav at the bargain $120/box.

[Thyrd]

I just got my first wine allowance with my pay slip today. I can take home anywhere from 4-8 bottles a month, depending on the quality. I can always take home 1 bottle of our premium selection per month. So it looks like I'll be bringing even more with me ;).

The selection of premiums I can choose from per month are:
1998 Black Queen
2003 Futures Shiraz
1987 Vintage Port
Fino Sherry
2001 Eight Songs shiraz
Liquer Muscat
2000 Stonewell Shiraz
2001 Eden Valley shiraz
2004 Marananga "Peppers" Cab Sauv,
2000 Mentor
2003 Pinot Noir Chardonnay
2003 Southern Flinders Shiraz

All of them can be read about here (http://www.peterlehmannwines.com)

[Glompbot]

wow

[Thyrd]

There's 2 other categories I can choose wine from. That's just the range of premium wine I can have.
In one of the other categories there is a 2005 Botrytis Semillon. I may bring a few of those over too.

[banga]

I just got my first wine allowance with my pay slip today. I can take home anywhere from 4-8 bottles a month, depending on the quality. I can always take home 1 bottle of our premium selection per month. So it looks like I'll be bringing even more with me ;).

The selection of premiums I can choose from per month are:
1998 Black Queen
2003 Futures Shiraz
1987 Vintage Port
Fino Sherry
2001 Eight Songs shiraz
Liquer Muscat
2000 Stonewell Shiraz
2001 Eden Valley shiraz
2004 Marananga "Peppers" Cab Sauv,
2000 Mentor
2003 Pinot Noir Chardonnay
2003 Southern Flinders Shiraz

All of them can be read about here (http://www.peterlehmannwines.com)
im a noob at this thyrd . that pinot noir chardonnay , whats the difference in that to other chardonnays ??or is the pinot noir a brand name ??

[Thyrd]

Pinot noir is a red skin grape while chardonnay is a green skin. A pinot noir chardonnay is a wine blended with both.

[cranky]

Len Evans is dead.

Long live Len Evans.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20159638-1702,00.html

[hazza]

Pinot noir is a red skin grape while chardonnay is a green skin. A pinot noir chardonnay is a wine blended with both.


Pinot Noir / Chardonnay blends normally indicate that the wine is a sparkling white, or champagne.

they remove the skins off the pinot noir to remove the red colouring.

[ewe2]

mcwilliams margaret river semillon sauvignon blanc 2004. very interesting with a good blue cheese :D

[excalibur]

Pinot Noir / Chardonnay blends normally indicate that the wine is a sparkling white, or champagne.

they remove the skins off the pinot noir to remove the red colouring.


They don't remove them however for the pink/slamon sparklings, or remove some, but not all. Some pinks are also pink because of added strawberry, and pink colouring goes with strawberry flavour.

[royale]

2004 Penny's Hill Red Dot Shiraz

Another great full bodied quaffer, not quite as balanced as a Barossa classic- a little more fruit driven with a little less spice, but much closer to my idea of balanced that the usual McLaren Vales. Great value at $13.99

2005 Three Brothers Reunion Shiraz
As a stand alone wine this seems to be great but its roughness becomes apparent when tasted amongst a selection of other wines. A good drop that should mellow with age and another recommended daily drinker at $9.99.

MAX POWER-
Andrew Garret used to do a good (but quite sweet) sparkling burgundy, not sure if you can still get it.
Fox creek winery does an excellent sparkling red called Vixen that is a high quality Mclaren Vale shiraz with bubbles.
d'Arenberg 'The Peppermint Paddock' Chambourcin is also worth a look

[LethalCorpse]

I've certainly had worse wines. I don't think I claimed it's premium (and I don't touch Fosters).

I'm just waiting for someone to denounce merlot because they've watched Sideways.
if anyone orders Merlot, I'm leaving. I am NOT drinking any fucking Merlot!

[royale]

2004 Zonte's Footstep Cabernet Malbec
An amazingly vibrant wine, with all the fruit of a young Shiraz but none of the sharpness that is usually associated with them. Similar character to a Mclaren Vale or Margaret river Zinfandel and worthy for more than just the novelty value. $12.99


2005 Boundary Rider Cabernet Sauvignon Cabernet Franc

Not remarkable for being very good nor very bad so pretty much exactly as is expected- which is the remarkable bit because its only $9.99. A good mid-weight cab blend.

[banga]

just had a bottle of saltrams 2005 makers table chardonnay , wasnt expensive , under $10,00 in fact and quite tasty i may go get some more

[d3kst3r]

Guys you should all try red wine + cranberry juice. 1/4 red wine, 3/4 cranberry juice. It is the fucking bomb!

[BlueBoy]

And I bet you put fucking ice cubes in it as well.

[royale]

just had a bottle of saltrams 2005 makers table chardonnay , wasnt expensive , under $10,00 in fact and quite tasty i may go get some more

Thats makers table range is not too bad- the shiraz is sometimes under $6 from dans (they once had it for $80/box with a slab of amsterdam beer) and is the only one in its price range Ive found to be worth drinking.

[Glompbot]

I'd like a recommendation on a decent Muskat for my dad for fathers day.
I know my dad likes this type of wine... last one I think was brown brothers, and he liked that a lot.

[royale]

fortified or not?

[Glompbot]

fortified or not?
it comes both ways?

i dunno, is the brown brothers one fortified?

[Glompbot]

hm
i checked the brown brothers page

it may be the Moscato i'm thinking of...

[royale]

The moscato is a sweet quite light and slightly fizzy one. If that is the one, try BVE (Barossa Valley Estates) Gwertztraminer.
If its the orange muscat and flora, try Bethany late harvest
If its the fortified one try Seppelt DP 57

[Glompbot]

fortified or not?
I just called home, and they said non-fortified

*edit* thanks royal :D i'll try the Barossa Valley Estates one. :D

[bitch]

I'd like a recommendation on a decent Muskat for my dad for fathers day.
I know my dad likes this type of wine... last one I think was brown brothers, and he liked that a lot.

Stanton and Killeen make awesome fortifieds.

If you are going to go for a muscat or tokay, you have to get something from Rutherglen.

We went through there last year, the Morris stuff was good but the S&K in another league entirely.

Can't recommend it highly enough :D

[bitch]

Whoopsie, too caught up in my own enthusiasm for Rutherglen fortifieds to notice that it is no longer relevant.

[royale]

I just called home, and they said non-fortified

*edit* thanks royal :D i'll try the Barossa Valley Estates one. :D

If you can find it, try to get some Two hands wines, brilliant disguise Moscato (https://www.twohandswines.com/store/product.asp?pID=50&cID=1)
Its pretty amazing and quite rare.

[Thyrd]

At the end of the first lesson of the wine appreciation course we had some Campari. It is the most bitter, vile drink I have ever had. My mum liked it for some reason.

[Thyrd]

If you can find it, try to get some Two hands wines, brilliant disguise Moscato (https://www.twohandswines.com/store/product.asp?pID=50&cID=1)
Its pretty amazing and quite rare.

I had some of this during my course on tuesday. It's great! It's apparently only available from cellar door now. I'm going to buy some tomorrow during my lunch break. I can get you some if you wish.

[sagit]

I am currently working my way through a bottle of E&T Gnangara Shiraz 2003. I think I can taste some of the burnt out cars from the pine forest nearby.

[Glompbot]

I had some of this during my course on tuesday. It's great! It's apparently only available from cellar door now. I'm going to buy some tomorrow during my lunch break. I can get you some if you wish.

How much is it?

Thyrd, I'd really like a bottle :D if you could please get me one that'd be awesome.
pm me account details so i can send money :D

[Lina]

I had a bottle of 2004 Clos de L'oratoire, Chateaneuf du pape recently. Not an old bottle of wine but goddamn was it good.

[ewe2]

Trentorio (?) pinot grigio 2005 (claiming to be italian although i havent found it on the net). Excellent white, good body without being too fruity and a smooth finish. Went down hella well with the seafood fettuchini :D

[sagit]

I have a Chapel Hill Pinot Grigio 2005 to go after the Shiraz

[picklesam]

i'm not a wine buff at all, what does it mean when people say the wine's got a 'good body'?

[Thyrd]

How much is it?

Thyrd, I'd really like a bottle :D if you could please get me one that'd be awesome.
pm me account details so i can send money :D

Hehehe, I just went out at lunch & bought 4 bottles. but I can probably go and get some more tomorrow. When I was talking to the lady in cellar door, she said there's only 1 pallet left for sale and it can only be bought through Cellar Door. $18 per bottle.
They're lovely. like drinking a fruit tingle. :)

[b2barker]

I think full body is the term you are looking for:
A wine's body is described as light, medium, or full. So, when you are tasting a glass of wine, how can you tell which kind of body it has, and just what is body, anyway? Body is the weight of the wine on your palate. The best way to figure out any given wine's body is to think about the relative weights of skim milk, whole milk, and half-and-half. A light bodied wine will feel about as weighty as skim milk in your mouth; a medium-bodied wine will feel like whole milk, and a full-bodied wine will feel like half-an-half. Another way to think about this; Wine with a rich, complex, lingering flavor is considered full-bodied; one that is watery or lacking in body is considered light-bodied or thin; a medium-bodied wine ranks in between....

From here (http://www.oxfordwineroom.com/Wine%20Education/WineStyles.htm)

[Glompbot]

Hehehe, I just went out at lunch & bought 4 bottles. but I can probably go and get some more tomorrow. When I was talking to the lady in cellar door, she said there's only 1 pallet left for sale and it can only be bought through Cellar Door. $18 per bottle.
They're lovely. like drinking a fruit tingle. :)
2 bottles kthnx?

pm me account details, i'll send money now.

[Thyrd]

I just went to their cellar dor at lunch and bought 5 more bottles. My aunt wanted some too.

[pinchy]

I lived in Canberra for 5 years and never touched a Canberra reigon (or South NSW) wine. I've since moved out and my boss and I decided that yesterday we'd drive from Canberra to Sydney "the long way" and visit a few wineries on the way. Two wines worth mentioning were:

I tried Clonakilla (http://www.clonakilla.com.au/) Shiraz Viognier 2006, a little young to drink now but man this wine is going to be huge after a little time (2-3yrs). Perhaps one of the best Shiraz blends I've ever tried. Up there with Glennock Creek (sp?) from SA. At $68 it was expensive, but IMO a bargain for what is a top quality wine and is easily on par if not better than the hyped Penfolds Grange. We were quite lucky that they had this opened. What is a bargain, is the little brother version "Hilltops" at only $24 a bottle - not quite as full but still bloody good - and will sell out within a month. I got quite a few of these!

A little further down, the Lark Hill (http://www.larkhillwine.com.au/) 2005 Chardonay is just how I like it. Everything but subtle - you get a nice hit of oak with a very smooth buttery finish. I wasn't overly impressed with their 'signature' Pinot Noir though.

(Interestingly both the clonakilla and lark hill wines are served on Qantas International First Class)

Also worth mentioning for all you Canberrans is the Kanberra (http://www.kamberra.com.au/) wines (just on NorthBorne ave near Epic Park). Have a try of their Viognier (can't remember the year). At $15 a pop its a bargain and a very nice wine which will easily complement any sea food. Got a few of these too.

[pinchy]

I'd like a recommendation on a decent Muskat for my dad for fathers day.
I know my dad likes this type of wine... last one I think was brown brothers, and he liked that a lot.

The best sticky wine from Brown Brothers is the Brown Brothers Orange Flora Muscat - if your dad likes his muscats, he'll love this. About $25 for a half bottle.

[royale]

I had some of this during my course on tuesday. It's great! It's apparently only available from cellar door now. I'm going to buy some tomorrow during my lunch break. I can get you some if you wish.

Thanks alot for the offer, but all the cellar door only wines are still available through the web site cellar door.

[hazza]

I had a bottle of 2004 Clos de L'oratoire, Chateaneuf du pape recently. Not an old bottle of wine but goddamn was it good.

oh wait nm

how much was it euro ?

[royale]

Just got a mixed dozen from Tahbilk, 4 X 2001 Shiraz, 4 X 2001 Cabernet Savignon and 4 X 2003 Marsanne. Looking forward to trying the Marsanne, its not a wine im very familiar with.
Oh and the farther in law just got me a box of St Hallet's Faith Shiraz...there are true rewards to marriage

[Thyrd]

I just bought 2 fortified wines from our cellar door. A Fino Sherry and a Tawny Port.

[Glompbot]

*waits eagerly* (https://www.twohandswines.com/store/product.asp?pID=50&cID=1)

[Thyrd]

It will be worth the wait when they get there. They're great. Can't send them during this heatwave though according to cellar door. They wines are likely to go off.

[AntZ]

Anyone here work with valuations for wines or know a decent place to get in contact with?

I have a bottle of Penfolds Port here that has been offered $2500 off the bat for and I want to know how much it is actually worth.

[royale]

More true rewards of marriage became apparent last weekend, when we spent our 1st anniversary weekend in the Yarra Valley. Whilst the region is not renowned for its shiraz, the offerings from Punt Road and St Huberts rival the better know regions in quality rather than characteristics. If your tastes stretch to cold climate Cabernets, Pinot Noir, Riesling, Semillon or sophisticated dessert wines, the Yarra Valley is the place for you. Recommendations for Yarrawood for their Verdelho, Allinda for their double picked Riesling, Sticks ‘Sticky’ (Reisling/Semillon) and Rochford for their Caberbet/Merlot.

[Glompbot]

thyrd, i just hope it arrives before christmas, i'd like to share a bottle with my parents

[Thyrd]

If worst comes to worst, I'll have the cellar door guys sent them despite the heat and hope for the best during transport.

[Glompbot]

hehe, nah, i can wait
besides, i'm asking for austrian sour cherry liquer for christmas, so i'll probably not appreciate the wine as much :P

[BlueBoy]

No rush, dude.
I stocked up at Werribee this weekend.

[royale]

No rush, dude.
I stocked up at Werribee this weekend.


Man that is so damn funny

[BlueBoy]

Bah. There was only two Shadowfax wines.
I got stacks more at the Harvest Picnic.

[sagit]

Maybe I should have seen this thread weeks earlier. oh well

[SOC]

Anyone here work with valuations for wines or know a decent place to get in contact with?

I have a bottle of Penfolds Port here that has been offered $2500 off the bat for and I want to know how much it is actually worth.
As a first port of call, I suggest getting in touch with Penfolds themselves.

[Thyrd]

Today I recieved my wine allowance AND an apparent chrismas bonus wine allowance of 24 bottles of wine. So that's 28 bottles in total.....I need to buy a wine rack.

Edit: Ok, so I've counted out all of the bottles of wine I got from work.
I have:

1x Barossa Sparkling Shiraz
3x 2004 Barossa Shiraz
3x 2004 Barossa Cab Sauv
3x 2004 Barossa Cab Merlot
3x 2001 Barossa Stonewell Shiraz
1x Shareholders & Friends Special Reserve Shiraz 2004 Vintage
1x 2003 Methode Champenoise Pinot Noir Chardonnay Cuvée
3x 2005 Barossa Chenin Blanc
3x 2005 Barossa Semillon
3x 2006 Barossa Riesling

[pinchy]

Yum! I love SA shiraz's - especially E&E peppertree & Grennoch Creek! Although I must admit I know Mclaren Vale much better, I currently have some Foggo's Old Vine Shiraz, Kay Amerys block 6, Anvers Shiraz, Font Hill Shiraz 2002, a heap of Paxton AAA, Samuel George Tempranillo and Shiraz...

White wise I found a yummy Moscato from Petaringa which is just divine (think of a not very fizzy late harvest wine)... the Paxton late harvest is good, as is the Paxton Chardonnay... although I prefer Californian Chardonnays (buttery with heaps of oak)

My current Favourite is Anvers Cab Sav 2002 - a bloody good year - its realy opening up!

[Facts]

Under $10 ............ Butterfly Ridge -- Shiraz Cabernet Sauvignon....very nice cheap drop.

[Glompbot]

Today I recieved (courtesy of the awesome RRY)

1 bottle of 2005 Peter Lehmann Late Harvest Frontignac
1 bottle of 2006 Two Hands Brilliant Disguise Moscato
1 bottle of 2002 Peter Lehmann Shiraz Muscadelle
4 bottles of Peter Lehmann Reserve Semillon

[pinchy]

The Kay Amerys MGM is currently at $6 a bottle from the vineyard, I think you can order... I got a case of this, as for $6 a bottle you won't find better IMO.

[Glompbot]

Dear person that recommended the Two Hands Brilliant Disguise Moscato.

I want your sexy wine babies.

I am blown away, it smells good and tastes even better.

[Thyrd]

That was Royale I think.

[Colonel Kurtz]

Glad to see the thread still pottering along.

Royale knows his wine.... trust me, I've helped him drink enough of it

[bitch]

Yum! I love SA shiraz's - especially E&E peppertree & Grennoch Creek! Although I must admit I know Mclaren Vale much better, I currently have some Foggo's Old Vine Shiraz, Kay Amerys block 6, Anvers Shiraz, Font Hill Shiraz 2002, a heap of Paxton AAA, Samuel George Tempranillo and Shiraz...



I <3 McLaren Vale.

McLaren Vale is my Mecca and I made the pilgrimage last year.

Foggo's is awesome, we spent well over an hour there tasting and chatting to the winemaker.

Wirra Wirra and Penny's Lane were also delish, as was my old fave Tatachilla.

Sadly, we ran out of time (spent too long in the Barossa prior) so we missed a few that I would have loved to have gone to.

[BlueBoy]

My care package from rry arrived today.
My liver aches just looking at it.

[Kez]

My care package arrived from rry the other day aswell, but I really want to wait for a nice group of people over to try the port.

[Glompbot]

Dear person that recommended the Two Hands Brilliant Disguise Moscato.

I want your sexy wine babies.

I am blown away, it smells good and tastes even better.

I just placed an order for 12 more bottles of it I love it so much.



SHIT
something happened to my order... I will have to call to find out if it went through or not :(

[Glompbot]

Ok, so my order didn't go through (adam at the cellar door in SA was lovely and had a great phone manner)
but i put it in again today and changed it slightly

I got 10 bottles of the moscato (http://www.twohandswines.com/sitePages/winedetail.asp?ItemID=72&WId=13)
1 bottle of the 2006 Two Hands The Wolf Clare Valley Riesling (http://www.twohandswines.com/sitePages/winedetail.asp?ItemID=85&WId=2)
And one bottle of the 2006 Two Hands For Love Or Money Barossa Valley Cane Cut Semillon (http://www.twohandswines.com/sitePages/winedetail.asp?ItemID=86&WId=23)

[Jaz]

Arg so many names. I think this is the noise that normal people hear when we talk about graphics cards.

Shamefully the only thing I can add here with certainty is that the Penfolds Wood Aged Port (in a goon box) tastes far better than the Penfolds Tawny Port (in a goon box) even though they cost the same. And I think it tastes better than some of the bottled stuff.

[pinchy]

*waits eagerly* (https://www.twohandswines.com/store/product.asp?pID=50&cID=1)
LOL I was there last week and bought a few of these!! as well as a bottle of "bella's garden" a very smooth shiraz.

[sagit]

i should order one of these "care packages"

[pinchy]

Hey sapia, if you like the two hands moscato try the pertaringa (http://www.pertaringa.com.au/subpagewine.php?150) one.. i think its a few dollars per bottle cheaper and the bottle isn't the wimpy 500ml one isit the full size.

[Glompbot]

ooh, thanks pinchy!

Ah its the same price

i can't afford it ATM though :(

[pinchy]

ooh, thanks pinchy!

Ah its the same price

i can't afford it ATM though :(

remember that the two hands moscato is a 500ml bottle and the pertaringa one is 750ml....

Since you love the moscato, you should try a frontignac, which is a very fruity wine - but not quite as sweet as a cane cut/ice/late harvest ... I suggest the rockford (http://www.rockfordwines.com.au/) one as its quite cheap (about $16 a bottle I think).

[Glompbot]

i tried the peter lehmann late harvest frontignac it was a bit too bitey for my tastes

[Glompbot]

My wine arrived

i shared a bottle with my future housemate and her boyfriend

it was a hit :D

[sagit]

I am having a "glass" of Pepperjack Shiraz 2005 now

[wicksey]

BWS have their true blue cleanskins out, $11.93 for 6 chardonnays. had some with lunch today and its well worth the 1.99 a bottle. (+ an oldschool bottle sealer!)

From SE Australia, does anyone know which winery it come out of?

[bitch]

BWS have their true blue cleanskins out, $11.93 for 6 chardonnays. had some with lunch today and its well worth the 1.99 a bottle. (+ an oldschool bottle sealer!)

From SE Australia, does anyone know which winery it come out of?

"South Eastern Australia" as a region, is pretty much anywhere except Western Australia. I've read that it represents 98% of the Australian vineyard areas. I'd pay to see someone guess the producer :)

Oh and Pinchy, nice call on the Rockford frontignac - have you had their basket pressed shiraz? yum!

[Glompbot]

OK
So I'm starting to get a clearer idea of what I like to drink in white wine

A big thing I've found is that I prefer the taste of low alcohol wines.

Does anyone have suggestions for me to try?

I've drank all bar 1 bottle of my two hands brilliant disguise moscato that I purchsed a while back. I seriously love this stuff.

I liked the reisling i bought of theirs too.

[banga]

BWS have their true blue cleanskins out, $11.93 for 6 chardonnays. had some with lunch today and its well worth the 1.99 a bottle. (+ an oldschool bottle sealer!)

From SE Australia, does anyone know which winery it come out of?

yeah i bought some of that too and its ok for 2 bucks a bottle , keep an eye out in dan murphys for their case specials on cleanskins

[banga]

OK
So I'm starting to get a clearer idea of what I like to drink in white wine

A big thing I've found is that I prefer the taste of low alcohol wines.

Does anyone have suggestions for me to try?

I've drank all bar 1 bottle of my two hands brilliant disguise moscato that I purchsed a while back. I seriously love this stuff.

I liked the reisling i bought of theirs too.

have you had a look on ebay for the case purchases sapia ?some of the winos here might be able to guide you on whats good value
http://home.listings.ebay.com.au/Wine-Alcohol_W0QQfclZ3QQloglZ0QQsacatZ26270QQsargnZsali cQQsocmdZListingItemList

[Icky]

Rockfords Basket blend is excellent. They limit it to 6 bottles per year for each customer.
You can get double in the Rockfords club but it is really exclusive to get in. And you dont receive any benefit for 7 years.

The Wirra Wirra Sauvignon Blanc is excellent as well.

[Glompbot]

I'm not signing up to ebay again. Sorry, its not an option.

Although, are there any wine clubs worth joining... you know the type that send you out bottes every quarter or so.

[pinchy]

Rockfords Basket blend is excellent. They limit it to 6 bottles per year for each customer.
You can get double in the Rockfords club but it is really exclusive to get in. And you dont receive any benefit for 7 years.

The Wirra Wirra Sauvignon Blanc is excellent as well.


I think you mean Rockford's "Basket Press".

[pinchy]

I'm not signing up to ebay again. Sorry, its not an option.

Although, are there any wine clubs worth joining... you know the type that send you out bottes every quarter or so.

The Qantas/ANZ one isn't bad - but with wine clubs you get what you pay for...

[Glompbot]

Hm :(

[royale]

I'm not signing up to ebay again. Sorry, its not an option.

Although, are there any wine clubs worth joining... you know the type that send you out bottes every quarter or so.



Ye olde favourite
http://www.winesociety.com.au/
or try
https://www.cellarmasters.com.au/sections/account/members.asp
(Wine Plans
If you're looking for the ultimate in convenience and value, check out our wine plans. You dictate the style, the price, the quantity and frequency of delivery by choosing one of our automatic wine plans.)

[royale]

I <3 McLaren Vale.

McLaren Vale is my Mecca and I made the pilgrimage last year.

Foggo's is awesome, we spent well over an hour there tasting and chatting to the winemaker.

Wirra Wirra and Penny's Lane were also delish, as was my old fave Tatachilla.

Sadly, we ran out of time (spent too long in the Barossa prior) so we missed a few that I would have loved to have gone to.

Foggos if the biz for really earthy high quality shiraz.
Have a look around for Kangarilla Rd Shiraz, its my personal pick from the vale (actually its closer to mclaren flats, but you get the picture) and there are some good specials floating around for it (picked up a box for around the $200 mark from 1st choice). They also do a funky zinfandel thats worth a go as a unusual cab sav alternative.

[Glompbot]

the problem with most wine plans is for whites there is TOO MUCH CHARDONNAY!

[royale]

I don’t know how specifically you can dictate the style, but is worth a look in. In the mean time try some Berringer Estates White Zinfandel (its actually a rose), is much more of a quaffer than the muscato but fits the bill of lowish alcohol (10%), sweet and fruity...and its under $10 (and decidedly less subtle then the more expensive ones)
http://www.beringer.com/beringer/catalog/view_product.jsp?product_id=1461&cat_id=1055
or
http://www.beringer.com/beringer/catalog/view_product.jsp?product_id=1473&cat_id=1046

[Thyrd]

A winery called kellermeister around the corner from me has made a brand of chocolate Port called Sable. At $15 a bottle, I'm going to pick up a couple at my next convenience.

[royale]

Ive got a bottle of the Stanley Brothers Choc Port. It smells great, but tastes pretty plain, as though its been watered down........hope the kellermeister one is better.

[banga]

Ye olde favourite
http://www.winesociety.com.au/
or try
https://www.cellarmasters.com.au/sections/account/members.asp
(Wine Plans
If you're looking for the ultimate in convenience and value, check out our wine plans. You dictate the style, the price, the quantity and frequency of delivery by choosing one of our automatic wine plans.)

THAT CELLERMASTERS LOOKS GOOD i like the variety and you get a slab of beer to boot , cheers royale

[Thyrd]

Ive got a bottle of the Stanley Brothers Choc Port. It smells great, but tastes pretty plain, as though its been watered down........hope the kellermeister one is better.

A couple of my friends have tried it. They say it's really good. We'll see.

[Glompbot]

Hm

I wonder if i can order online from heaps of cellar doors - cause that would be better than a wine club, if anyone knows of any that let you order online, link!

[Thyrd]

A couple of my friends have tried it. They say it's really good. We'll see.

I'm drinking it right now. DELICIOUS!

[royale]

Hm

I wonder if i can order online from heaps of cellar doors - cause that would be better than a wine club, if anyone knows of any that let you order online, link!

Most cellar door allow you to order on line, or at least over the phone. Some ones i regularly use are
http://www.sthallett.com.au/flashsite/index.html
http://www.tahbilk.com.au/
http://www.gapstedwines.com.au/
http://www.kangarillaroad.com.au/
http://penfolds.com.au/
http://www.twohandswines.com/
http://wynns.com.au/

If you want the cheapest though (although its a killer for the wineries)
http://www.danmurphys.com.au (free delivery by the straight case)
http://1stchoice.com.au/html/home.asp (limited fantastic specials)
http://nicks.com.au/index.aspx? (free delivery over $200, awesome range)

[Glompbot]

oooh thank you

[bitch]

In my excitement of getting some oysters brought up from Melbourne, I cracked open one of our '97 Tyrrells Vat 1 Semillion.

I last had this about two years ago and it was awesome but alas, it seemed flat at the moment and to be honest, I was disappointed. It seemed appropriate to celebrate a tenth anniversary with a wine of the same vintage.

I've read that this should continue to develop well until '09 - maybe I just picked a period when it was a bit flat and flabby.

Oh well, I'll try again in '09 and '10.

[Icky]

I think you mean Rockford's "Basket Press".

Yeah thats it. I knew it was something like that. it is excellent. One of my friends gets a case every year and is aging it in his celler. he is educating me on the finer side of wine.

[Glompbot]

OH MY GOD
I am drinking the last bottle of the 12 I got from the two hands winery
(10 bottles of the moscato, 1 bottle of reisling, and this last one is the cane cut semillon)

So...
WOW
Its so... different from every other type of wine I've tried.

http://www.twohandswines.com/sitePages/winedetail.asp?ItemID=86&WId=23

I recommend it to anyone

But its sort of like a sticky wine... which I wasn't expecting.

This is also the most accurate description of how it tastes ever
olden in colour, it has an intensely perfumed nose of star jasmine, sweet musk and glace fruits. At first, a rush of tropical fruits and a hint of sweet spice, these give way to dense stone fruit characters. The mouthfeel is velvety then finishes like cool tea; with refreshing acidity and persistence.


I have a favourite brand of wine now, and I'm looking forward to my first new pay packet to buy some more.

[Thyrd]

My girl and I stopped in at Two Hands cellar door a few weeks back and tried that Semillon. She said it was VERY good.

[Glompbot]

Its not a quaffing wine like I find the moscato to be... (i can finish a bottle pretty damned quickly)
But i love the taste of it nonetheless.

[royale]

Just ordered 3 bottles of
2006 Warrabilla Limited Release Parola's Durif (https://www.nicks.com.au/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductId=478189).
Rated 99/100, 5/5 stars for value, and 18% alc...who would have thought it possible.

[BlueBoy]

Durifs are a great drop. Let us know how they go.

[hazza]

Just ordered 3 bottles of
2006 Warrabilla Limited Release Parola's Durif (https://www.nicks.com.au/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductId=478189).
Rated 99/100, 5/5 stars for value, and 18% alc...who would have thought it possible.


wow? tell us how it is!



anyone try the 02 grange? i havent yet but i got inside word that the 04 is gonna be 'a truely great vintage'

[royale]

wow? tell us how it is!



anyone try the 02 grange? i havent yet but i got inside word that the 04 is gonna be 'a truely great vintage'

Will review when it arrives.
Havent had grange for a few years (last one was an 86 or so I think)
The father in law has a few of multiple vintages in the cellar so will have to wait till he cracks one to try- fucked if im going to fork-out $1/2K for a bottle.


18%? thought it was impossible to get above 14% with fermantation

Me too, although I seem to recall some types of yeast can survive higher concentrations, and evaporation through the barrel can have an effect.

[Colonel Kurtz]

looking forward to Saturday night's drinkingamahol

[royale]

My Wine Selectors Taste of Australia Red Dozen (http://www.wineselectors.com.au/wineplans.asp?planid=2) arrived last week and so far I have only tried the hunter ones (hunter reds are typically crap so I wanted to try them before the money back offer ran out) and was pleasantly surprised. I will bring a few others to and do a 'sampling' for Saturday.

/edit the intro dozen has changed already, mine had a few different ones to that list

[pinchy]

I had a 25 year old bottle of Chateau Malescot St-Exupéry (Margaux) (http://www.malescot.com/) that my old man had been cellaring for, well 25 years and was undoubtly the best wine I have ever tried. The 1982 vintage in the region is one of the best so I was quite lucky in that regard. The restaurant where i took this to had a 2001 vintage for $800......I can only guess what the 82 was worth. I'm quite lucky to have another bottle at home!

I also had a bottle of 1982 Stony Vinyard (now Domaine A) Shiraz from Tassie. Although Tassie isn't a big Shiraz area, 25 years of age certainly did wonders - and this was quite good but in a very different way to the bordeaux.

[royale]

Very cool, I don’t get much opportunity to sample the old world wines, and never anything of that age.
Had anything australian to compare it with in terms of body and palette characteristics?

[Glompbot]

I haven't had a chance to try much wine lately

I've had a few reds which I've discovered I quite enjoy.

I tried one of those annies lane ones, was very nice

I tried the brown brothers zibbo also very very nice (almost as good as the two hands moscato)

[pinchy]

Very cool, I don’t get much opportunity to sample the old world wines, and never anything of that age.
Had anything australian to compare it with in terms of body and palette characteristics?

No, as it was a french bordeaux there really isn't any true comparison - and I haven't tried many wines at that age/level!!

[sagit]

I have a cleanskin 2005 Reserve Cab Merlot from this great state, which unfortunately meant it cost $3 more than one from over the other side of the country.

[Glompbot]

I have two bottles
http://www.winorama.com.au/?p=1134

and

http://www.boccaccio.com.au/category14_1.htm

trying to decide which one to have

[Glompbot]

went with the pinot gris
its my first pinot gris

i don't mind it

[rayjayjohnson]

I haven't had a chance to try much wine lately

I've had a few reds which I've discovered I quite enjoy.

I tried one of those annies lane ones, was very nice

I tried the brown brothers zibbo also very very nice (almost as good as the two hands moscato)

annie's ;ane cabernet merlot is very nice indeed.

[Glompbot]

yeah, i had it previously, and it was very nice :)

[royale]

Just ordered 3 bottles of
2006 Warrabilla Limited Release Parola's Durif (https://www.nicks.com.au/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductId=478189).
Rated 99/100, 5/5 stars for value, and 18% alc...who would have thought it possible.

Its arrived, in time for this saturdays winter feast. We will have to try it before we get into the mead so we are in a position to apprectaite it

[Colonel Kurtz]

Am I to bring the Frangelico as well?

[royale]

Monk juice will be required ;)

[royale]

Just ordered 3 bottles of
2006 Warrabilla Limited Release Parola's Durif (https://www.nicks.com.au/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductId=478189).
Rated 99/100, 5/5 stars for value, and 18% alc...who would have thought it possible.

Well we tried this one on Saturday night and it was...interesting.
Very ripe and sweet, thick and full, but whilst the alcohol content is very high you don’t get any impressing of it being overdone from either the palate nor the nose. I didn’t notice much of the spice or other complexities suggested in the tasting notes, but is was still a great wine.
Is it worth $35? Yeah, but I don’t know that Ill be buying much more of it.

[Glompbot]

ah, damn.
given you know the wines i like (moscato low alochol sweet fruity type wines) do you think it'd be right up my alley?

[royale]

Yes and no, its sweet (for a full blown red) and ripe so that’s a plus, the alcohol not very prominent so another plus. It is 18% though, that can put you on your arse if you’re drinking it like a light white.
Find a bottle of Connor Park Durif (its cheaper) and have it on a cold night with a stew, shanks or a heavy spaghetti bolognaise. If you like it a lot get some Warrabilla.

I just got a box of the Warrabilla durif/shiraz/cab blend cleanskins.

[hazza]

OK i got a quick heads up, at the BWS in Roseville they are CLEARING out the Bordeux room, what this means is IMPORTED FRENCH wines are DRASTICALLY reduced by up to 40%, also there is some old penfolds shit like grange magnums, all heavily reduced! If you want head up to the corner of Hill and Lord st at Roseville and talk to Dan or Trent. There is currently a 20% of all wine sale as well which means if you buy one of these bordeux, margaux, penfolds, D'yquem, Cheatuenuf De pape and like 5 other cheap wines, you will get it for like 60% off! its a fucking joke.

theres a 1984 Grange Hermitage magnum in a box set with a $1500 discount! and then if you buy any 5 other wines it will be more than half price!!!

[Glompbot]

bah
too far
and too broke :(

[royale]

http://www.warrabillawines.com.au/wines.html
2005 DSC Cleanskin.
Best cleanskin ever.
After enjoying the Parola's Limited Release Durif but ultimately casting out due to price, I got a box of the Durif/Shiraz/Cabernet blend cleanskin and it gets both thumbs up. It still sweet, ripe, full and very purple (but not as much so as the straight Durif), it’s also but a little more complex. If you like a big red that matches hearty winter fair get into this one, at $10 ($11 delivered) a bottle it’s unbeatable.

[bitch]

Best cleanskin ever...


I'm also currently enjoying an amazing cleanskin, the only one that hasn't disapointed since the cases that came back from Foggo's and Penny's Hill in the McLaren Vale early last year.

Dan Furphy's currently have a McLaren Vale 2005 cab sav / cab franc / merlot cleanskin labeled as 'private bin' for the bargain price of $6.90.

We purchased one on Saturday to cook with and prompty went back to get a whole case.

'tis very much to my taste and I'm actually going to go out on a limb and guess that it is a Ben Riggs wine.

I'm debating going back and getting a second case, it makes an awesomely good value every day drinker.

[wicksey]

http://redbigot.info/Ozwinesites.htm

dont know if this will be good for anyone, just googling for clearances...

[Glompbot]

http://www.qwoff.com.au/

whilst we're on the url posting topic

[Glompbot]

I recieved this in the email today

http://www.twohandswines.com/email/mailer.asp?mID=28

I am going to put an order in with the two hands winery again, this time to try some of their reds... anyone want a bottle or two since the minimum order is 12 bottles?

I'll be ordering on the 25th.

[banga]

fark me $120 a bottle , you must be on the good bucks

[Glompbot]

I was actually looking to order some of their OTHER wines.
;)

[Thyrd]

The missus and I went to Two Hands cellars for a tasting today. Just whites.
They've rolled over to the next vintage forthe Brilliant Disguise Moscato, which to me is far superior to the last. Might be relevant to Sapia's interests.

[Icky]

Last night I tried a bottle of STONELEIGH Sauvignon Blanc, from the Malborough region in New Zealand.

It was a lot friutier than I was expecting. I have a bottle of Oyster Bay Sauvignon Blanc from the same region that I will likely try tonight or tomorrow.

[Glompbot]

The missus and I went to Two Hands cellars for a tasting today. Just whites.
They've rolled over to the next vintage forthe Brilliant Disguise Moscato, which to me is far superior to the last. Might be relevant to Sapia's interests.

Ooh, thank you :)

I bought a Tempus Two Merlot last night which was absolutely fantastic
And a tyrells wines mclaren vale shiraz which cost more and in my opinion didn't taste nearly as nice.

[BtrFly]

bought some lovely sticky from punt road, and some '03 merlot from there as well

apart from that we bought the late harvest pinot noir, and the sangiovese from the yering station.

productive day in the yarra valley i think

[royale]

going to a tahbilk wine dinner tonight...7 courses and 8 wines...but my wifes driving...so 16 wines and 11 courses (the last 4 I'll taste twice)

[Colonel Kurtz]

going to a tahbilk wine dinner tonight...7 courses and 8 wines...but my wifes driving...so 16 wines and 11 courses (the last 4 I'll taste twice)
/envy

[royale]

necormancy
Nicks have rufus stone heatcote shiraz at $201/dozen. It's good, buy some.
https://www.nicks.com.au/index.aspx?method=STA_productdetail&ProductId=480032