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Happy Camper
05-11-2005, 05:46 PM
Lets say you're totally off your face and have no idea what you were doing at the time nor have recollection of the events of the previous night can you use that as a defense if you commit a crime ? Since being insane is a defense and being drunk is a temporary state of retardation.

d3kst3r
05-11-2005, 05:51 PM
I've never ever heard of the argument of drunkeness winning a court case... EVER. If you're not responsible enough to stay sober then that counts as fucking up in the eyes of a judge.

ms edeity
05-11-2005, 06:00 PM
Involuntary or voluntary intoxication? What charge? What circumstance?

label
05-11-2005, 06:01 PM
Insanity is not self inflicted, it could be argued that being drunk is a choice.

peril
05-11-2005, 06:22 PM
Being Pissed an excuse for a crime?

LOL!

No.

I Fucken wish! I'm Right flogged now! *Burp!* and I like STUFF!

GIMMI!

"But i was pissed" is by FAR *THE* biggest wank of an excuse for making a deadshit of ya self, that anyone could ever use. anyways.

A close second is "But I have A.D.D/A.D.H.D"

FUCK OFF! take responcibility for your actions, hell ya were probably haven fun while ya did it, eh! ;) , In fact there has been many times that I knew that I was about to do something fairly dim, so I sculled a few befor comencing ;)

I have never studied law nor take an interest in it, this is just my oppinion AND as I am drunk, I believe it has relevence.

THOU:
the only exception is the Coyote Clause:
If ya dun remember fucken it (including "selective memory") well then ya never did ;)

BEER!!!

Up_All_Night
05-11-2005, 06:24 PM
But alcoholism is a dease isnt it? its a serious problem if you cant control your drinking.

label
05-11-2005, 06:32 PM
In which case, you realise it is a serious problem and you have the disease -- what are you doing to control it?

ms edeity
05-11-2005, 06:33 PM
So was the question a can you or a should you?

d3kst3r
05-11-2005, 06:51 PM
The highest death toll ever caused by a single killing spree was over 300 people in Japan by a drunk policeman. I'd like to see him use the alcohol as an excuse.

Sagacious
05-11-2005, 10:49 PM
Lets say you're totally off your face and have no idea what you were doing at the time nor have recollection of the events of the previous night can you use that as a defense if you commit a crime ? Since being insane is a defense and being drunk is a temporary state of retardation.

Voluntary intoxication can be a defence to a cfrime of specific intent such as committing greivous bodily harm with intent to do so. If you are too hammered to form a coherent thought or intent then you cannot be guilty of a crime which carries a specific intention as an element.

This is different to knowledge which means that defence doesnt work to possession of dangerous drug charges etc.

Intoxication (if voluntary or knowing) is not a defence to crimes which lack specific intent as an element such as assault, rape, arson etc. if you do something bad when drunk yolu will be answerable for it unless you can show that your intoixication was unknowing and involuntary i.e. someone spiked your drink, slipped you a mickey etc and then you will only be exculpated if you would not have committed the offence but for the circumstance of your intoxicated state.

That is all for now.