Ubuntu, do you recomend it?

[s3raph]

Well? Do you recomend it? I'm thinking of getting it. Also, any tips/advice would be very welcome.

[pinchy]

I signed up on their website and got 20 copies of each distribution (mac, pc32 and pc64). Its based on the debian distribution and is relatively stable and I managed to pick it up pretty quickly. The unbuntu distros also include open office and a swag of other apps as well as being able to boot from the cd....

i dig it.

[s3raph]

Yeah I ordered a bunch of pressed discs from them too. I mean its free so why not. That is such a fucking great service they do there btw.

[Enthalpy]

I'd recommend it as it's damn easy to add extra packages and keep it up to date.

If you are used to another (non Debian) flavour of Linux there will be a bit of an adjustment as there are a few differences between the two (/etc/init.d instead of /etc/rc.d/init.d, no root - have to sudo into everything [which is better anyway], some other commands have entirely different names as well from memory).

[s3raph]

No root? Thats kinda.... weird.

[kré]

no, i recommend kubuntu. kde > gnome.

[s3raph]

no, i recommend kubuntu. kde > gnome.
Couldn't I just get ubuntu, and then get KDE later?

[MasterFarter]

I have just downloaded and installed Ubuntu, after trying Ark first.

While I cant tell you much yet, I can say that Ubuntu was beyond easy to install and it appears to be awesomely stable at this point.

Why not give it a try. As has been said its free :)

[ewe2]

Couldn't I just get ubuntu, and then get KDE later?


I'm a kubuntu user, but I hear the following will get you through:

apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

[MasterFarter]

I was just looking at the Ubuntu wiki for something else, but saw a note in passing that said converting to the Kbuntu desktop later was ok and easy enough to do.

[locust]

I set up Kubuntu the other day, starting with a stock Ubuntu install and sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. Worked fine. You'll have to decide between gdm and kdm as the xdm/login manager (ie what you see when you turn the computer on) - I stuck with gdm, and you'll have to click around in the login screen to get it to head into KDE instead of GNOME.

BTW, the root account is still there, just its use is discouraged and there's no password on it. sudo password root and put a password on it if you want to be able to just plain su.

[jambo]

Yes.

[s3raph]

kk. For a second I was wondering what kind of crazy flavour of linux this was that had no root.

A thought just occurred to me. What other desktop environments are there other than KDE, and gnome? Anything good?

[ewe2]

Way too many to list but...

Other popular window managers are swordfish, blackbox (and variants), windowmaker to name a few.

I like fluxbox, its an improvement of blackbox, if you want a really fast window manager without the bells and whistles of the bigger wm's, and people are writing a lot of addons for it. windowmaker is another very popular wm with more eyecandy and a icon/dock system similar to the NeXt desktop. swordfish is very popular too, but i hate its menu system. Many of these wm's have their own menu system formats that are textfile-based, but you get sick of a different syntax for every wm. At least KDE, Windowmaker and Gnome have editors for these things. The only bearable menu syntax apart from these is the blackbox one.

These days I stick with Kubuntu KDE because its way more stable than the Debian one ever was and it does most of what I want.

[Lujan]

xfce is far and away my fave. After gnome. It used to be fluxbox, but I don't know, I just got hooked on xfce.

[Lujan]

oh, and if I had to use a desktop Linux, it would be Ubuntu

[s3raph]

I've heard xfce can be kinda glitchy.

[hockypocky]

I recommend xfce, especially on older machines. It does not have the overhead or memory useage that the main stream wm have. I am currently using it on an older laptop with limited memory, and it is working great.

[s3raph]

I've heard its good like that, but I'm happy to have the extra overhead, basically because I like a pretty desktop, and graphics, and animated windows etc.

[Lujan]

if you have the grunt, sure. I used xfce on my old Toshiba Tecra laptop, with its totally awesome pentium 266MMX and 64mb of ram. and xfce handled it beautifully.

[wolfpac181]

Anyone use Ubuntu as a public server?
I've had just way too much luck with Ubunt's compared to redhat distros. I was actually thinking of switching right over to this. I got CPanel, and would plop that right in. so yeah.. anyone use it for Mail, web, etc servers in the public world?

Anyway, it's this Ubunts, debian-strict, or gentoo with my switch over.

[exekewtable]

we use Ubuntu for some serious hosting. I recommend it for a server. Breezy has a libc problem which we haven't fixed yet, but it means we need to stick to hoary for our servers. (its doens't have PAX headers in libc if you where wondering so we can't use grsec).
Anyway, Ubuntu rocks for servers. You type server at the install cd boot prompt and it just installs the base distro, then you just apt-get whatever you like. we are using it for Xen3.0 on amd64 stuff, serious mail/web stuff, all sorts of different crap. tis good stuff.

dave

[wolfpac181]

thanks. good to hear a pro on this.
I'm tired of CentOS and Fedora. Really want to change to something that I can use, maintain, and know wont fuck up. Fuck yum and up2date, gimme apt-get