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Lina
14-02-2006, 11:10 AM
There’s a place for my kind of music although it can never be mainstream. It is a sanctuary for me and for the people who can use it that way. That’s what I use it for. A sanctuary. Leonard Cohen

My Dad is responsible for a lot of my musical tastes – he gave me a love for Dylan, Jesus Rodriguez and JJ Cale, to name a few. But not Leonard Cohen. As I sat down to write this I remembered that Cohen came from my Mum – this is a woman who’s musical preferences extended to The Eagles, Leo Sayer and (gasp!) Kenny G. I never took to Mums music. Let’s just say that one day Kenny G went missing and Mum didn’t find him again until about ten years later when she moved house. He was stuck behind a cupboard. She promptly dug him out and played him at my sisters wedding along with Savage Garden. Oh yes. Happy days.

I remember when I discovered Leonard Cohen for myself. I was fourteen and I found a tape in the family car called Various Positions and a CD that my Mum had just bought which had a best of collection of Cohen’s music. To say that I took to them like a fish to water is an understatement. I played these two albums constantly, only occasionally interspersed with Abbey Road, which was my other great love at the time. I listened to Cohen so much that my parents became concerned that I was depressed and suicidal (no, just a teenager).

At the time I had absolutely no idea what drew me to Cohen. This wasn’t something that any of my friends listened to. There was something about Cohen that spoke so much more eloquently to my teenage soul then any pop band ever could. To my teenage self he seemed to have an understanding of the pain and angst that I was going through and listening to him was like talking to a councilor. Even though he has a reputation as music you listen to before topping yourself, he had the opposite affect on me.

I now know why my Mum listened to Leonard Cohen. My little brother died of heart disease when I was five and my Mum found solace in a Cohen song called ‘Bird on the Wire’. She also found ‘Bird on the Wire’ comforting when her father died. And this to me is what Cohen is about. For someone who is rather inclined to pop music, my Mum recognized the realness in his lyrics. He strips a song back to it’s bones and bares it all for you to take of it what you will. I listen to Cohen like people in days gone by read poems, for he is a poet.

He is not an artist that appeals to everyone. In fact, I don’t know anyone personally that listens to him. And I would never say that he’s easy listening – he’s more like a 17 course gourmet meal as opposed to what we’re served up with in the music charts, which is more like a handful of sugar. One high and then it’s gone. Cohen is something to take your time over, to digest. His music gets better as you get older.

He’s an interesting character, Cohen. He’s a poet, a recording artist and a novelist, he has been ordained a Zen Monk and was lovers with Janis Joplin for a time (he wrote a song about her called ‘Chelsea Hotel #2’ which contains the lyrics “..then clenching your fist for the one’s like us who are oppressed by the figures of beauty, you fixed yourself, you said well never mind. We are ugly but we have the music..”)

If I was to recommend an album to listen to for a first timer I would recommend the best of called Golden Highlights which contains a really great collection of his work. Recommended songs (not just from Highlights) would include: Teachers, Dance Me to the End of Love, Love Calls You By Your Name, Avalanche, Suzanne, Hallelujah, and The Future.

L
14-02-2006, 02:06 PM
"I'm Your Fan - the songs of Leonard Cohen" (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002ISX/102-8984736-8369757?n=5174) is one of my favourite CDs.

The version of "Don't Go Home With Your Hard-on" by David McComb (The Triffids...R.I.P.) & Adam Peters is excellent and Nick Cave's version of "Tower Of Song" is nicktacular!

ewe2
14-02-2006, 02:42 PM
Great review lina, and yes I am another fan. I was so far gone I used to busk his songs in malls from Brisbane to Adelaide. I can quote standout pieces but that's ignoring his real value, the sensitivity and strength to speak some very naked truths. But yes he wrote Hallelujah :) I want to hear that I'm Your Fan album too!

PS I've noticed that many do not grasp his rather black sense of humour. Leaving Green Sleaves for example :)

Lina
14-02-2006, 03:11 PM
I'm your fan is an excellent album. I heartily approve of one of my favourite artists covering another of my favourites - the Pixies singing I can't forget :ride:

Something Fast
14-02-2006, 05:39 PM
That was a really awesome review.

Leonard Cohen really is an interesting character. Some people don't really like his voice, but I don't think anyone can fault his songwriting abilities. He really deserves a hell of alot more popularity than he's been given.

I'm a real fan of all his music, but I absolutely love "Teachers" and "Hey, that's no way to say goodbye" with a real passion. I've pretty much been a Leonard Cohen fan since I was old enough to appreciate music, thanks to my mum who also loves his music.

Canalien
14-02-2006, 07:43 PM
I'm a big fan of Leonard Cohen, and oddly enough, my mother is also the only person I know who also really likes him. Being Canadian by birth, his was always a household name, but I can't actually remember hearing any of his music before I checked it out my self. I actually heard Jeff Buckley's cover of his song "Hallelujah" before I heard the original.
What really made me curious was when my dad told me about the relationship his sister had with Leonard Cohen in the 60's. Apparently they dated for a while, and whenever I hear his songs I have to wonder if there's reference to my aunt in there somewhere.

My personal faves are Famous Blue Raincoat, The Partisan, So Long Marianne and Hey,That's No Way To Say Goodbye.

The haunting backing vocals are contributed by Nancy Priddy, who later became a TV actress and mother of Christina Applegate.

Lina
14-02-2006, 08:07 PM
Ha! I've been coming to zgeek for almost five years and I never even knew there was such a community of Cohen lovers! Ahhh...I feel a group hug coming on :D

sagit
14-02-2006, 08:09 PM
Isnt Leonard Cohen a deceased orchestral conductor?

>_>
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PS I've never heard any of his stuff. Not that words mean much to me anyway.

Lina
14-02-2006, 08:52 PM
I'm curious as to why words don't mean much, Sagi? Lordy, I listen to Cohen songs that I've listened to for years and years and I can still be moved so much that my knees go funny!

sagit
14-02-2006, 09:01 PM
I have worked in the public sector/service for many years...also I used to be an active member of the Catholic Church. With those two enormous piles of political, lying ...bumph as 'guides', it is [Kim Jong Il voice] 'inevitable' [/Kim Jong Il voice] that my mind would turn off anything said. Perhaps it has helped the wax in my ears grow.

Anyway, I appreciate music more than words. Also I find it necessary to listen and re-listen many times (or in the case of movies/tv, watch many times probably with rewind) before I can translate the sounds into words of english and then move it into something meaningful.

I guess I'm just slow. Also, if the sound is drearily painful (aka Whitney Houston singing), I turn off. Some music I make a definite effort to stop, some I tolerate or accept and some I like.

Lina
14-02-2006, 09:06 PM
Ahhh...I see. A musician I know is the same way - can only hear the music and not the lyrics until he hears the song for the seventy seventh time. Then he hears what they're saying with words. To me it's the whole experience but zis is whats makes ze people interesting, yes? The differences? :)

sagit
14-02-2006, 09:08 PM
true

kleph
06-03-2006, 11:28 AM
here is a strange story concerning cohen recently on the news wires...

Singer-songwriter Leonard Cohen may never see $9.5 million a court ordered his former business manager to pay after she failed to respond to allegations of stealing from his retirement savings, Cohen's attorney said Thursday.

A Superior Court judge granted Cohen, 71, the default judgment Monday against Kelley Lynch in response to a lawsuit alleging she siphoned $5 million from the musician's personal accounts and investments.

By late 2004, the suit alleges, his nest egg was reduced to about $150,000.

Cohen, known for such reflective songs as "Suzanne," may never be able to collect, his attorney, Scott Edelman, told The Associated Press.

"She's hard to get in touch with. I don't know where she lives now, and I don't have a phone number for her," Edelman said. "We don't know what she did with the money. ... But she knows what's going on because she leaves me phone messages at all hours."

Lynch could not be located for comment.

Edelman said Lynch, who worked for Cohen for 17 years until he fired her, also refused to return photographs, records and memorabilia, even after a court order.

"We went into her home four months ago with a sheriff and a moving truck to get his stuff," the lawyer said.

Another defendant in the suit, tax professor and lawyer Richard Westin, reached an out-of-court settlement with Cohen on Feb. 13, details of which were not revealed.

Lynch allegedly hired Westin to help defraud Cohen.

Westin's attorney did not immediately return calls for comment Thursday.

"Leonard is sad that this whole thing took place, but glad that this leg of the litigation is completed," Edelman said. "He would prefer to spend his time on his creative endeavors."


via AP (http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/states/california/northern_california/14003706.htm)

Lina
06-03-2006, 11:58 AM
Well...he's a zen buddhist anyway, no possessions and all that jazz.

But seriously, what a trollop. He's going to have to do some more tours to get some moula. Preferably more tours in Australia. Or in Europe when I'm conveniently there.

Elf
20-04-2006, 07:02 AM
That was a brilliant review. It has inspired me. When I first heard Cohen I was won over completely by the personal nature and emotion of his lyrics. Rarely does an artist or band do this for me.

Canalien
20-04-2006, 12:22 PM
there was some sort of mini-special on him on channel 10 last night really late. good lord he's old now.

ShinymetalASS
20-04-2006, 01:38 PM
I love Leonard Cohen...

Hallelujah is one of my favourite songs...

Even though my Mum always said it was good music to commit suicide to..

Afta Image
23-04-2006, 03:16 AM
Kurt Cobain was a big fan of Leonard Cohen....

But the music is certainly perceived as suicide music.

But I guess different people get different things from music....

bund
25-07-2007, 07:43 PM
Leonard Cohen is a dullard - bores the shit out me - musical valium !

4X4
14-11-2007, 02:06 AM
My mum, dad, AND mate also like Leo Cohen. I Might listen to him one day. But fucking hell how low do you want to sing something?!?!