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IamSpartacus
03-05-2006, 11:21 PM
Estimating civilian deaths in Iraq – six surveys extracts from www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_643.shtml dated 2006-03-29.


Iraq Body Count Website : “minimum” number (of civilian killed) now stands at about 34,000.


The People’s Kifah Survey : Six months after the invasion, an Iraqi group called the People’s Kifah mobilized hundreds of academics and volunteers who “spoke and coordinated with grave-diggers across Iraq, obtained information from hospitals and spoke to thousands of witnesses who saw incidents in which Iraqi civilians were killed by U.S. fire.” .... However, after only a month or two’s work, the People’s Kifah had already gathered evidence of at least 37,000 violent civilian deaths by October 2003.


The Iraq Living Conditions Survey : a low figure of about 24,000 “war deaths.” .... the period covered by this survey was one of relative calm, and the two years of increasing violence that have followed are unaccounted for.


The Lancet Report : They estimated that at least 100,000 Iraqi civilians had died in the previous 18 months as a result of the invasion and occupation of their country


Iraqi Health Ministry Reports : In the three months from June 10 to September 10, it counted 1,295 civilians killed by U.S. forces and their allies and 516 killed in “terrorist” operations.

six months from July 1, 2004, to January 1, 2005. This report cited 2,041 civilians killed by U.S. and allied forces versus 1,233 by “insurgents.”


Iraqiyun Survey : It released its report on July 12, 2005, making it the most recent survey to date. It counted 128,000 actual violent deaths, of whom 55 percent were women and children under the age of 12. The report specified that it included only confirmed deaths reported to relatives, omitting the large numbers of people who have simply disappeared without trace amid the violence and chaos.


Now the referenced article only contained SIX surveys, but I thought it prudent to contain the world's definative source for a SEVENTH survey. I hereby announce the results of the ...

Nodbugger Survey : Twelvety.

Nodbugger
03-05-2006, 11:25 PM
And my figure below far outweighs that.

Not to mention death would have definitely continued in Iraq if Saddam had stayed in power.

With the way things are going, anything that has happened after the invasion is of not fault to the US. We could have left there years ago, but the continued terrorist attacks stop them from doing it. They just need to put out a memo, if you stop attacking people we will leave, but if we hear about one more bombing we will be right back.

But is has to work, there is no cut and run from this.

Up_All_Night
04-05-2006, 01:06 AM
wait can you refresh me, how many iraqi's where dying in terrorism attacks before the war?

Scumbag
04-05-2006, 01:17 AM
makes the collateral damage of 9/11 seem like a drop in the ocean really.

Jimma
04-05-2006, 01:19 AM
Yeah and which survery came up with that nice round 2 million? I've stated before that it is incorrect. The total death toll of the Iran/Iraq war was less - and that was a war between two countries, not Saddam Hussein murdering people. The children dying because of UN food sanctions in Iraq perhaps? No I don't think so, not 2 million.

IamSpartacus
04-05-2006, 02:21 AM
Nod*, given that you state the following with each of your posts

"... Congratulations Saddam! 2,000,000 Dead since 1973!

All people bitch about is the people killed in the last two years! Why don't they care about the millions killed over the last 30?
Anyone else see a problem here? ..."

Well I do see a 'problem here'. Where is your source for these data of 2 million ?.

Now I won't accept any old rubbish such as Girl Guides Weekly or Madmagazine ... I'd like a nice reputable source please.

ezer
04-05-2006, 10:21 PM
come on noddy, id like to see it...