blink 182 = 911 inside job

[nibls66]

Today on 91x Tom DeLonge, member of the former band Blink 182 and current member of Angels and Airwaves, interviewed James Fetzer of Scholars for 9/11 Truth.

DeLonge and James Fetzer talked openly about the many remaining questions and theories surrounding 9/11, and DeLonge quite openly accepted the alternative theory to 9/11 - that the U.S. Government was involved.

DeLonge is yet another star to voice his opinions regarding 9/11, and we encourage others to help spark a new debate regarding 9/11 - Thanks Tom!

The clip above includes a few excerpts grabbed from the webstream today, however due to connection issues it is incomplete. If you happen to have a better copy of the show please let us know.

http://www.911blogger.com/2006/05/tom-delonge-of-blink-182-fame.html

[asskickergod]

I got a Prime Rib hoagie from Quiznos today for lunch. It was pretty good, although the problem with Quiznos is the way they heat up thier meats. They do it by dropping it into hot water. So when you have something like sliced prime rib it tends to hold a lot of water no matter how well you drain it and that ends up making the bread a bit soggy. It was still a good hoagie though.

[asskickergod]

If I had a choice between going to Subway or Quiznos I'd probably go to Subway. There's just not one close enough to where I work and the benifits of Subway aren't great enough to warrent leaving the Waterfront. If I was going to go on a trek for lunch I'd just make the extra effort and go to Tram's Kitchen. They've got kick ass Vietnamise food and it's really cheap too. Thier spring rolls are fucking heavenly.

[asskickergod]

One of the coolest things about Tram's Kitchen is that they allow you to bring your own booze. How fuckin cool is that? They don't even charge you a corking fee or anything. They give you these tiny little glasses to drink out of. They probably only three ounce glasses so it's almost like you're doing shots of beer or wine. You can always as for a bigger glass though and they'll happily bring it to you. Or you can just drink your water really fast and use that glass as it is bigger.

[asskickergod]

Did I mention that the owner is missing an arm? Because he's missing an arm. He's actually from Vietnam so there might be a really wild story behind why he's missing an arm. I've never asked him why because he's got a really really thick accent and I have a hard time understanding him. So if you go there don't be surprised if you're seated by a short Vietnamise guy that's missing an arm.

[asskickergod]

Last time I went to Tram's for dinner I almost hit a homeless guy. I was going down Penn Ave and this dirty mother fucker with this long scraggly beard that had only what I can only descibe as white shit in it steps right out in front of my car and I had to swerve to avoid him. I don't know what was up with him, if he was drunk or high or just trying to end it all or what. I didn't stop to find out though cause I was hungry and didn't really care.

[s3raph]

Woo, crazy conspiracy theorists. So we're now saying that the US government killed like 4000 of its own citizens why? So they can wage a losing war in the middle east? Simplest explanations tend to be the right ones in situations like this.

[Seeker]

Subway is good.

[Seeker]

We have a place called Phils 1001 subs, I think they are better than Subway, he gives you alot of filling, the grilled chicken sub is the best....can't remember the last time I went to quiznos.

[kleph]

keep an eye out for don pasquales. it is a sandwich chain a noted restauranter has opened in lima preparing peruvian style togo food. he plans to franchise it to the u.s. next year. i have had some of the food they have in development to serve and it is really good stuff. given the demand for more ethinc cuisines in the us it is likely this chain could take off quick.

[asskickergod]

I find that a lot of small Pizza shops will usually have better subs than Subway or Quiznos. The problem is that the Waterfront is too expensive to harbor a small shop and the area outside the Waterfront is too shitty for me to want to get food from there.

So kleph, what exactly does Peruvian style food consist of?

[kleph]

well this will be peruvian style sandwiches. one common one is the butifarra which is a couple slices of turkey with an aji sauce and red onions that have been marinaded in vinegar. the latter sounds strange but is very sweet rather than sour or strong and it adds an interesting taste to the sandwich. the other big one here is the chicarron which is fried pork served with sweet potato slices and topped with the red onion mix. this is one of my lunchtime favorites.

[asskickergod]

Interesting, of course it will probably take forever before this chain to make it all the way up here.

[kleph]

no, they probably will be in some of the major metropolitian areas within a year or so. getting beyond that will be the trick since they have to get established in the us market before ramping up franchising. but these guys know what they are doing and it's a great product.

[asskickergod]

Tell them that if they're looking for a prime location in Pittsburgh's Waterfront I'll be happy to burn down the McDonald's here.

[nibls66]

nice hijack akg. quiznos all the way ( :

[kleph]

well, that is more a problem for the franchisee. at this point the company is working on getting the lima store operating and finding folks willing to invest in it in the major markets. looking for the proper location in the secondary wave of expansion is when your pyrotechnical skills may be needed.

[Up_All_Night]

well arent you two a pair of wankers...



remember the Govt did lie to get support of the Vietnam and first gulf war...
TOm delonge is a bit of a.... love his music but yeah..

[tomsyman]

They let the Japs bomb Pearl Harbour too just to get into WWII.

[Up_All_Night]

Operation Northwood,
didnt they blow up their own ship killing their own men and blame it on the spanish in the 1800s? or something? to start a war.

The Nazi's burnt down the Reichstag(howevers it spelt) and blamed it on the commies... and we all know the bush Nazi connection!

[fenderbasher]

I've always preferred Subway, but I lost some respect for them when they started their big "toasted" campaign. If I wanted it toasted, I'd go to Quiznos. I don't go to Quiznos because of that dumbass talking/singing gerbil commercial series they ran a year or two ago. That pissed me off and scarred me for life, so no go.
kleph, I could've sworn I saw a Peruvian restaurant last week in Portland. I'll have to go looking again, and get a bite to eat. Not Guinea Pig, though; that'll have to wait a while...

[Seeker]

Yeah but Jared is a cunt.

Give me singing gerbils over Jared any day.

[Scumbag]

ROLFMAO

Operation Northwood,
didnt they blow up their own ship killing their own men and blame it on the spanish in the 1800s? or something? to start a war.

Operation Northwood was a 1962 US defence plan to generate U.S. public support for military action against the Cuba. The plan, which was not implemented, called for various false flag actions, including:

* Starting rumors about Cuba by using clandestine radios.
* Staging mock attacks, sabotages and riots at Guantanamo Bay and blaming it on Cuban forces.
* Firebombing and sinking an American ship at the Guantanamo Bay American military base—reminiscent of the USS Maine incident at Havana in 1898, which started the Spanish-American War—or destroy American aircraft and blame it on Cuban forces. (The document's first suggestion regarding the sinking of a U.S. ship is to blow up a manned ship and hence would result in U.S. Navy members being killed, with a secondary suggestion of possibly using unmanned drones and fake funerals instead.)
* "Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping and destruction of US military drone aircraft by MIG type [sic] planes would be useful as complementary actions."
* Destroying an unmanned drone masquerading as a commercial aircraft supposedly full of "college students off on a holiday". This proposal was the one supported by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
* Staging a "terror campaign", including the "real or simulated" sinking of Cuban refugees
* "We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington. The terror campaign could be pointed at Cuban refugees seeking haven in the United States. We could sink a boatload of Cubans enroute [sic] to Florida (real or simulated). We could foster attempts on lives of Cuban refugees in the United States even to the extent of wounding in instances to be widely publicized."
* Burning crops by dropping incendiary devices in Haiti, Dominican Republic or elsewhere.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwood

You may also be thinking of the "Gulf of Tonkin" incident where two American destroyers were supposedly attacked and sunk by the North Vietnamese in 1964. It wasnt until 2005 when it was finally confirmed that the "attacks" never actually happened, and that the intelligence was deliberately distorted to drum up support for the war in the whitehouse & amongst the public.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin

[asskickergod]

I've always preferred Subway, but I lost some respect for them when they started their big "toasted" campaign. If I wanted it toasted, I'd go to Quiznos. I don't go to Quiznos because of that dumbass talking/singing gerbil commercial series they ran a year or two ago. That pissed me off and scarred me for life, so no go.
kleph, I could've sworn I saw a Peruvian restaurant last week in Portland. I'll have to go looking again, and get a bite to eat. Not Guinea Pig, though; that'll have to wait a while...

I funcking hated that comercial. I boycotted Quiznos until they took that fucking monstrosity off the air.

Yeah but Jared is a cunt.

Give me singing gerbils over Jared any day.

They weren't gerbils, they were some horrid wretched wailing things that played stupid instaments off tune and generally gave you the urge to tear off your own head for something to throw at the television.

[kleph]

kleph, I could've sworn I saw a Peruvian restaurant last week in Portland. I'll have to go looking again, and get a bite to eat. Not Guinea Pig, though; that'll have to wait a while...

you need to make your reservation today and go this weekend. andina (http://www.andinarestaurant.com/location.htm) is one of the best peruvian restaurants in the entire united states. it was opened by a woman from cajamarca (http://www.andinarestaurant.com/familia.htm) in the mountains of northern peru and she has gotten some of lima's best chef's to run her kitchen. they are a leading maker of what is coming to be known as novoandino cuisine - a mix between authentic peruvian food and other cuisines.

if you go you want to try the cebiche de pescado which is the signature dish of peru. my entry (http://www.kleph.com/cook/2006/03/ceviche.html) on my cooking blog will fill you in. do not miss out on this, going to this restaurant and not having cebiche is a criminal act in my eyes.

the other things you want to try are the causas which are kind of like flavored mashed potatoes packed with different foods. sounds a bit odd but it is a very common thing here and it lets a creative chef go wild. andina is known for this dish.

another great dish is anticucho de corazon which is marinated beef heart kebobs. this is, hands down, my favorite peruvian dish. trust me and give it a try.

these are mostly the appetizers (http://www.andinarestaurant.com/menu/entradas_menu.htm) so, for the main dish, trust the server. look for something that is served tacu tacu (http://www.kleph.com/cook/2006/03/tacu-tacu.html). my suggestion is keep to the more "authentic" peruvian dishes your first visit and then go back and try some of the fusion stuff.

[IamSpartacus]

As per Scumbag's posting above "...Operation Northwood was a 1962 US defence plan to generate U.S. public support for military action against the Cuba. ...", it is public visibility of these sorts of materials which fuel the anti-911 conspiratists. Ditto for the Gulf of Tonkin stuff.

Why has the US administration released info on such operational plans ?. In the UK it either wouldn't see the light of day again; or would have been placed generically under the 50 year or 100 year rules.

Loose lips sink ships.

[asskickergod]

quiznos all the way ( :


That proves that you're a communist. Subway is the superior hoagie maker. They're got fucking sandwich artists there. Sandwich Fucking Artists. They went to sandwich college and got an associates sandwich diploma from fucking Sandwich State Fucking University. Everyone that works at Quiznos dropped out of sandwich high school. You can't fuck with Subway.

[Seeker]

It's fresh too!

[asskickergod]

Yeah, it's fucking fresh too.

[Seeker]

Here Nibls, this is the reason Subway is better!

Jared aside.

http://www.slate.com/id/2095868/

[Thyrd]

Why do people always make a big deal if "celebrity a" has an oppinion on "political situation b"? Celebrities rarely know fuck all about anything other than fuck all.

[Bostonmess]

Woo, crazy conspiracy theorists. So we're now saying that the US government killed like 4000 of its own citizens why? So they can wage a losing war in the middle east? Simplest explanations tend to be the right ones in situations like this.

Maybe they didn't know they were gonna lose? Maybe they originally did it because the middle east had something that they wanted?

[asskickergod]

Why do people always make a big deal if "celebrity a" has an oppinion on "political situation b"? Celebrities rarely know fuck all about anything other than fuck all.

I wonder what Jared would have to say about all this.

[Jimma]

You're a cunt Asskickergod. I mean I was trying to read a thread about 9/11, and now I feel like Subway. And since you're on the other side of the world you don't realise that some of us don't have a Subway open for 5 more hours! Tomorrow for lunch I think I'll have a couple of chicken fillet footlongs. Cheddar cheese, lettuce, tomato, mustard, tomato sauce, hot chillis, and I'm gonna have some of those M&M cookies too.

[Haggisboy]

Rumour has it that Osama and his Al Quaeda minions undertook their whole World Trade Center attack because of food.

Tis true...... They were sitting around the cave one day when one of them asked Osama: "What would you do for a Klondike Bar?"

The rest is history.

[fenderbasher]

you need to make your reservation today and go this weekend. andina (http://www.andinarestaurant.com/location.htm) is one of the best peruvian restaurants in the entire united states. it was opened by a woman from cajamarca (http://www.andinarestaurant.com/familia.htm) in the mountains of northern peru and she has gotten some of lima's best chef's to run her kitchen. they are a leading maker of what is coming to be known as novoandino cuisine - a mix between authentic peruvian food and other cuisines.

if you go you want to try the cebiche de pescado which is the signature dish of peru. my entry (http://www.kleph.com/cook/2006/03/ceviche.html) on my cooking blog will fill you in. do not miss out on this, going to this restaurant and not having cebiche is a criminal act in my eyes.
Excellent, thanks for the recommendation. I must have passed the place during the million migrant mystery march. Many of the items sound very tasty!
I'll try and get in for lunch, as I have serious doubts the little woman would be interested; she doen't do any hint of spicy, and tends to shy away from exotic...

[Directed]

This thread is making me hungry, and I have a whole hour before I can go to lunch. You bastars. MMMMM a subway Italian BMT with provolone cheese, lettuce, olives, and oil and vinegar on an italian bun and toasted. That's the ticket...... MMMMMM.

[dozer]

how do those toasters work so fast?

[Bostonmess]

Blink 182.

One plus eight equals nine. Eleven, otherwise known as one and one added together equals 2. Put it all together 9/11. Blink 182 were behind it after all.

[asskickergod]

You're a cunt Asskickergod. I mean I was trying to read a thread about 9/11, and now I feel like Subway. And since you're on the other side of the world you don't realise that some of us don't have a Subway open for 5 more hours! Tomorrow for lunch I think I'll have a couple of chicken fillet footlongs. Cheddar cheese, lettuce, tomato, mustard, tomato sauce, hot chillis, and I'm gonna have some of those M&M cookies too.

Oh I'm perfectly aware that you can't get Subway for another five hours. That was my cunning plan all along, my "conspiracy" if you will. I've been manipulating everyone and everything in this thread for almost an entire day now. Why would I do this to you? Because I can. I'm evil incarnate and will make you hunger for the foods you cannot have out of pure spite. Now wallow in the dispair I've created for you for the next five hours as I feast upon your sweat sweat misery.

[Bostonmess]

Now wallow in the dispair I've created for you for the next five hours as I feast upon your sweat sweat misery.

You gonna lick that off him?

[asskickergod]

You gonna lick that off him?

I'm going to spread it generaously onto my sub.

[Directed]

how do those toasters work so fast?
THey use a microwave oven with a semi metallic base that concentrates the heat outside the sandwich, mimicing an oven toasting, but way faster.

[kleph]

I'll try and get in for lunch, as I have serious doubts the little woman would be interested; she doen't do any hint of spicy, and tends to shy away from exotic...

no, she may find a good bit of peruvian food to like. they don't really go into spicy here like mexican or anything. my suggestion for her would be the causas.

and i would believe the food bombing conspiracy. the world trade center had a very large mall-style food court RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE TOWERS THEMSELVES! check it out, it's true. the horrible truth behind 9/11 is that osama was aiming for the cheesecake factory. its a fact.

[Seeker]

The cheesecake factory!!

Anything but that!

So cruel this world has become for The Cheesecake factory to become another faceless victim of terror.

[kleph]

and if you don't eat at the cheesecake factory that means you let the terrorists win.

[Haggisboy]

I wonder if there's such a thing as a beefcake factory?

Top on their menu would be foot long dogs and hoagies with lots of mayo.

[Seeker]

Mayo?

What are you, Dutch?

[Haggisboy]

Mayo?

What are you, Dutch?

I know it's difficult, but think about the picture I just painted. Foot long weiners, mayo......

Do I have to fly out to the left coast and bitch slap you?

[Blink]

Way to cunt up the thread guys. You may not be interested in what nibs has to say, but he has the right to say it (or at least type it) without you bunch of wankers immediately jumping in. Kleph, as a journo I thought you'd be all for freedom of speech? AKG, well I didn't really expect any better from you.

Nibs - on the topic at hand - De Longe is a bit of a weirdo, he has a huge collection of UFO sighting and Alien abduction books and also seeks out and meets the authors of said books.

Also a good quote from the sticky for the war forum, courtesy of our moderator AKG:
"There's way too many off topic comments in this forum. I've been guilty of making many of them myself, but it's getting to the point of being ridiculous."

[Directed]

Way to cunt up the thread guys. You may not be interested in what nibs has to say, but he has the right to say it (or at least type it) without you bunch of wankers immediately jumping in. Kleph, as a journo I thought you'd be all for freedom of speech? AKG, well I didn't really expect any better from you.

Nibs - on the topic at hand - De Longe is a bit of a weirdo, he has a huge collection of UFO sighting and Alien abduction books and also seeks out and meets the authors of said books.

Also a good quote from the sticky for the war forum, courtesy of our moderator AKG:
"There's way too many off topic comments in this forum. I've been guilty of making many of them myself, but it's getting to the point of being ridiculous."

So only Nibs has the right to freedom of speech? The rest of us are excluded from that? I'd just like to say this thread drove me to eat some Subway Italian Bmts. Man was it good and toasty.

[Blink]

So only Nibs has the right to freedom of speech? The rest of us are excluded from that? I'd just like to say this thread drove me to eat some Subway Italian Bmts. Man was it good and toasty.

At least if you started a thread on a topic I didn't agree with I'd post related to the topic at hand. Get the point? Even Noddy gets treated better than Nibs.

[asskickergod]

Go fuck a trash can full of used hypodermic needles blink, you semen encrusted faggot and stop cunting up my thread. Unless you haven't been paying attention, which I'm sure you probably haven't, this thread is about Hoagies and I'm completely on topic. For some reason the only time you ever seem to post at all is when you want to take a shot at me for some minor point of hypocrisy that only exists in the shallow pool of your enfeebled mind. Or maybe your other posts are just so blandfully void of anything interesting that I never notice them. Neither would really surprise me. If you want to post shit about 9/11 conspiracy theories do it in the proper thread like this one.

http://www.zgeek.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50980

or this one

http://www.zgeek.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50384

or this one

http://www.zgeek.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49429

or this one

http://www.zgeek.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43224

or this one

http://www.zgeek.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42893

or this one

http://www.zgeek.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42870

or this one

http://www.zgeek.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40770

or this one

http://www.zgeek.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39983

or this one

http://www.zgeek.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43608

Now get out of my thread you hairy backed child fucker before I send a deranged clown over to the gutter where you live to twist your colon into a balloon animal poodle. Then next time your father stops by he's probably try to have sex with you since I've heard he likes to fuck dogs.

[Goat Boy]

Abrakebabra taco fries FTW!

[nibls66]

Nibs - on the topic at hand - De Longe is a bit of a weirdo, he has a huge collection of UFO sighting and Alien abduction books and also seeks out and meets the authors of said books.



more people believe in other intelligent life form than the 911 conspiracy due to overwhelming evidence. You can't blame people for HOPING there is other intelligent life outside our planet and personally I think it all ties together. We all know religion is bullshit with it being basically the same story told a hundred different ways. Of course there is a "higher power" but having the herd fight amongst each other is exactly how this game has been played for thousands of years. I guess you could outcast me as a "weirdo" as well for hoping GWBush and Co. are NOT the most powerful intelligent people in existance. :shrug:

[Directed]

I, for one, find it completely believable that alien life forms travel light years to earth looking only for trailer park occupants to harrass and probe and then return home. Its like a college prank or rite of passage for them, obviously. Aliens love to travel across the universe just to mess with people. I know that's what I would do with all that technology.

[asskickergod]

Back on topic folks.

So where do you guys think I should go to lunch today? I'm debating on Pizza Uno or maybe Quiznos again. What are your thoughts on this more important issue?

[Directed]

Do you have a Giordanos near you? There is nothing as good on this earth as a Thick Crust Giordanos pizza. MMMMmmmmm.

[asskickergod]

Nope, just the Uno's. We don't have the same Chigago style pizza resources here in Pittsburgh as they do in well, Chicago.

[Goat Boy]

I went to our local pub, The Malt House for lunch the other day.
As with most Irish pubs these people are beyond obsessed with potatoes.

I ordered the Guinness steak pie, which was lovely.
Side dishes included a few peas, a small serving of pumpkin, two whole roast potatoes, 8 boiled potatoes and a huge serving of mash potatoes. This is standard at most places.

I would not be surprised to be given a raw spud on my way out the door to chew on my way back to work.

People of Ireland: You are now officially over your spud quota. Enough is enough.

[Seeker]

What about pasta?

[Haggisboy]

I went to our local pub, The Malt House for lunch the other day.
As with most Irish pubs these people are beyond obsessed with potatoes.

I ordered the Guinness steak pie, which was lovely.
Side dishes included a few peas, a small serving of pumpkin, two whole roast potatoes, 8 boiled potatoes and a huge serving of mash potatoes. This is standard at most places.

I would not be surprised to be given a raw spud on my way out the door to chew on my way back to work.

People of Ireland: You are now officially over your spud quota. Enough is enough.

Well..... you DO know that an Irish 7 course meal consists of a six pack and a potato, don't you?

Although, from the way you tell it, it's more likely to be six potatoes and a beer.

[Directed]

Nope, just the Uno's. We don't have the same Chigago style pizza resources here in Pittsburgh as they do in well, Chicago.

If you come to Chicago, I will take you to the best pizza in the nation. What I noticed about Pittsburg is they have excellent sports teams, great bars, but horrible food. How can that possibly be? I found it confusing.

[Seeker]

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[Seeker]

Quint: Japanese submarine slammed two torpedoes into her side, Chief. We was comin' back from the island of Tinian to Leyte. We'd just delivered the bomb. The Hiroshima bomb. Eleven hundred men went into the water. Vessel went down in 12 minutes. Didn't see the first shark for about a half-hour. Tiger. 13-footer. You know how you know that in the water, Chief? You can tell by lookin' from the dorsal to the tail. What we didn't know, was that our bomb mission was so secret, no distress signal had been sent. They didn't even list us overdue for a week. Very first light, Chief, sharks come cruisin' by, so we formed ourselves into tight groups. It was sorta like you see in the calendars, you know the infantry squares in the old calendars like the Battle of Waterloo and the idea was the shark come to the nearest man, that man he starts poundin' and hollerin' and sometimes that shark he go away... but sometimes he wouldn't go away. Sometimes that shark looks right at ya. Right into your eyes. And the thing about a shark is he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he comes at ya, he doesn't even seem to be livin'... 'til he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'. The ocean turns red, and despite all your poundin' and your hollerin' those sharks come in and... they rip you to pieces. You know by the end of that first dawn, lost a hundred men. I don't know how many sharks there were, maybe a thousand. I do know how many men, they averaged six an hour. Thursday mornin', Chief, I bumped into a friend of mine, Herbie Robinson from Cleveland. Baseball player. Boatswain's mate. I thought he was asleep. I reached over to wake him up. He bobbed up, down in the water, he was like a kinda top. Upended. Well, he'd been bitten in half below the waist. At noon on the fifth day, a Lockheed Ventura swung in low and he spotted us, a young pilot, lot younger than Mr. Hooper here, anyway he spotted us and a few hours later a big ol' fat PBY come down and started to pick us up. You know that was the time I was most frightened. Waitin' for my turn. I'll never put on a lifejacket again. So, eleven hundred men went into the water. 316 men come out, the sharks took the rest, June the 29th, 1945. Anyway, we delivered the bomb.

[Goat Boy]

Witness: Striker was the squadron leader. He brought us in real low, but he couldn't handle it.
Prosecuting Attorney: Buddy couldn't handle it? Was Buddy one of your crew?
Witness: Right, Buddy was the bombardier, but it was Striker who couldn't handle it. And he went to pieces.
Prosecuting Attorney: Andy went to pieces?
Witness: No, Andy was the navigator, he was all right. Buddy went to pieces. It was awful how he came unglued.
Prosecuting Attorney: Howie came unglued?
Witness: Oh no, Howie was a rock, the best tail-gunner in the outfit. Buddy came unglued.
Prosecuting Attorney: And he bailed out?
Witness: No, Andy hung tough, Buddy bailed out! How we survived, was a miracle.
Prosecuting Attorney: Then Howie survived?
Witness: No, 'fraid not. We lost Howie the next day.