Mac torrent clients

[rayjayjohnson]

Any ideas on a good one?

I've started using bits on wheels, but i've read mixed reviews.

azureus is a dog and i'll have none of it.

i've been using the official bittorrent client for too long now.

There's a copy of this thread in the Torrents forum, forgot not everyone will see it there...

[PVD]

Ill definatley be up for suggestions for a mac,

Using azureus, it is a dog but its just been about 30x better than all the other clients out there

[Mr Bigglesworth]

I find azureus runs better on mac than on PC. Just set it up properly (open ports on your router if you have one)

[rayjayjohnson]

bits on wheels looks like it might be okay, but i've got so many active torrents atm i'm loathe to switch right now.

[astro]

I find azureus runs better on mac than on PC. Just set it up properly (open ports on your router if you have one)
Seconded. I think it's the best a bittorrent program can be :D

[rayjayjohnson]

azureus on my machine made doing anything web based whilst the program was open impossible.

[Directed]

azureus on my machine made doing anything web based whilst the program was open impossible.

That is because you allowed it all that bandwidth. If you want to do other things while the program is running, you need to throttle down the bandwidth and amount of torrents it is simultaneously uploading and downloading.

[astro]

Correct-a-mundo. imp and I had a housemate who used bitcomet, and when he was leeching we couldn't even open a webpage. What was really fun was when he used to fire it off and go to work. After a while we'd just get the shits with him doing it (even after we asked him not to) and unplugged his computer from the network.

It's not the client, it's the amount of strain it's putting on your router and your connection. There's only so much it can take ;)

[rayjayjohnson]

ahhhhhh, roight.

the one problem i always have with azureus is the whole nat thing, and i'm too much of a technological retard to know how to fix it.

bittorrent always seemed to be ok speedwise, but i've read there is better.

should i go down the 'it ain't broke, don't fix it' line?

[rayjayjohnson]

That is because you allowed it all that bandwidth. If you want to do other things while the program is running, you need to throttle down the bandwidth and amount of torrents it is simultaneously uploading and downloading.

but wait, even when the torrents were paused it sucked.

[Directed]

azureus does tend to suck up all your network resources if you allow it to. Your best bet is to change all its settings to what you want to allow, permitting at most 3 simultaneous downloads and 2 uploads, and limiting its bandwidth to 1/10 of your internet connection speed or so. Azureus tends to enjoy searching and responding to requests, which also uses your internet connection.

[Mr Bigglesworth]

the one problem i always have with azureus is the whole nat thing, and i'm too much of a technological retard to know how to fix it.


1: Log into router
2: Go to your Firewall Settings
3: Create a port (make it port 29999 for example), give that port full and unrestricted access incoming and outgoing on TCP/IP and UDP
4: Save and reboot router
5: Go to your Azureus client, enter the port number you opened on your router (port 29999 in this example) in the options area.
6: Done.

As Darth Vader said, "All too easy".

[rayjayjohnson]

thanks directed and monsieur bigglesworth.

sorry to ask a stupid question, my dsl modem is the same as a router i'm assuming?

and directed,
i'm currently a new user to oink, so ratios are what interests me at present. if i just keep azureus's settings up high and all torrents gunning, just closing the program when i'm not around would be the best way around this, wouldn't it? or am i being a twonk?

[Directed]

Your dsl modem is not a router. You would need a router or at least a router-like program on your computer to accomplish what Bigglesworth has in mind. His solution is more elegant than mine.

what I have noticed is that even when you close the azureus program, your internet is sluggish for a bit after that. Be careful you are not just closing the Azureus window and allowing it to work in the background. But yes, if you truly close the program when you are not using it, it frees up your internet. If you want to keep it constantly going, my solution will help you.

[astro]

Not necessarily. A DSL modem may still have firewalling (or port forwarding) settings that you can play with. Technically the difference between a modem and a router is the amount of computers you can hook up to it ;)

[Directed]

Not necessarily. A DSL modem may still have firewalling (or port forwarding) settings that you can play with. Technically the difference between a modem and a router is the amount of computers you can hook up to it ;)

True that, I was just thinking about the dsl modem I've seen around my area. They deliberately lock those babies down so they are useless in the Chicago area.

[rayjayjohnson]

soooooooooo, fixing the nat problem on my modem can be done how...?

it's a d-link DSL-302G

[rayjayjohnson]

http://www.portforward.com/

anyone had any sucess with this? it looks like it's a pretty straighforward walkthorugh for a dick like me.

[Directed]

This page and site might be of some help

http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dlink/DSL-302G/SlingBox.htm

DOH you beat me to it.

[rayjayjohnson]

great minds, eh?

[Mr Bigglesworth]

Most modems these days have a DHCP server, which qualifies them as routers as well. That means youre in luck and can tweak the firewall settings just enough to get some hardcore downloading

[rayjayjohnson]

ok, i've done what's been told of me on portforward.com, but now azureus can't maintain a download, and i can't seem to see anything else uploading.

anyone have any ideas on this one? i don't have a nat error anymore.

[Mr Bigglesworth]

does it download at all?

[rayjayjohnson]

yeah, start it up and it will go great guns for a few minutes, then it dies in the arse. sometimes it happened with bittorrent, but would always start up again pretty quick.

[Mr Bigglesworth]

im not sure about that ... my torrents fluctuate hence why there called "torrents" :)

[PVD]

Yeh, i had the same problem about a year ago, i struggled to understand the whole concept of port forwarding,

anyway, after figuring out that that i had to configure the base station not my computer (im an idot!!) to open one of its ports and it has been going great guns, maybe not getting the highest potential speed but still quite acceptable, but seen as my parents are on some loyalty thing with Telstra and they don't want to change and because they aren't flexible in terms of there plans ill have to stick with what ive got

With azureus i found that it was just better off for me to get some more ram, which means that i can whore azerus while having all my other programs open

One reason why you might go from super fast to nothing maybe because the peers maynot like you for some reason (maybe your ratio, uploading speeds, don't have the qualifications to download a certain torrent), and just may cut off sending you packets of data, but seems unlikely. Couldn't be a problem with connectability otheriwse you would have a Nat problem

[rayjayjohnson]

i think ive had enough, i can't seem to get azureus working particularly well, and now bittorrent seems to be suffering from some change ive made to get azureus working in the first place.

grrrrrrr.

[PVD]

From what i understand, you should have only changed the port number in the preferences; and if you followed directed advice, you would have changed the rules for uploading/downloading

So yeh, check the rules that you have changed and make corrsponding adjustments, if that fails maybe delete azureus along with its prefernces in the library, see if you can start from scratch

[rayjayjohnson]

ok, no nat problem anymore, that's fixed.

problem now is it fluctuates with downloading, goes really fast for a minute, goes back to zero, might go up a little bit later, but doesn't constantly download.

[Mr Bigglesworth]

ooh ... and i forgot to mention, do a firmware upgrade on the DSL-302G. that might help the modem run a little better.

[PVD]

When your downloading, how many peers are you connected to?

[rayjayjohnson]

connected to quite a few.

i left it on overnight and it seems to be working, it got through two files amounting to about 300 mb. and it seemed to be uploading.

it just never seems to do it when i'm there...

btw, i can't find any firmware upgrade for the 302g on D-link's site, just drivers for windows...

[Mr Bigglesworth]

http://www.dlink.com.au/tech/Download/download.aspx?product=DSL-302G&revision=REV_C&filetype=Firmware

Make sure you have a Rev C (check the label on the bottom)

[rayjayjohnson]

thanks, ill do that this arvo.

[rayjayjohnson]

it's working well now, thanks guys,

upgrading the firmware wasn't the best idea, turns out aapt have specific firmware on the modem, and by upgrading it i lost everything, which took me a long time on the phone to a poor tech support guy getting fixed.

...BUT, now things download when they should and upload at a reasonable rate.

thanks to directed, mr bigglesworth and pvd for all the help and advice.

really, thanks heaps.

[jambo]

My fav mac bittorrent client is Transmission (http://transmission.m0k.org/).

[rayjayjohnson]

My fav mac bittorrent client is Transmission (http://transmission.m0k.org/).

yeah, transmission looks good, but it's banned on oink.

[thegrouch]

Hi I use tomato torrent and while a bit clumsy seems to work just fine. I dont get the net lockdown and can do other things like surf, downlaod and so on.

TheGrouch

[lowededwookie]

RayJay try XTorrent (http://www.xtorrentp2p.com/)

I use this all the time now. It's coolest feature is the builtin search engine.

[rayjayjohnson]

also banned on oink

[rayjayjohnson]

bumping an old thread, oink now allows transmission, and it shits all over azureus. i can finally browse AND torrent now, AT THE SAME TIMEZ!!!!!1111111oneoneone

[Sutter]

Hello, I is new to macs. I'm using Sutterbook to type on Zgeek! Anyway, ahem, I'm using Tomato, but I is certainly looking for something good to use. I was using uTorrent on my PC, but it ain't on Macs :(

[Glompbot]

I'd like something that isn't azureus to use.

[Mr. Bungle]

i use transmission and it is solid

[-=[BB]=-]

I agree, transmission is my torrent client of choice for the mac.
Its a pity that we dont have something more like uTorrent though, that would be great.