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SOC
24-05-2007, 06:53 AM
OK, let me get this straight. In the first movie (Curse of the Black Pearl), Captain Barbossa (Geoffrey Rush) was the bad guy. Captain Jack Sparrow's mortal enemy. Who also wanted to sacrifice Elizabeth Swann (Keira Knightley) to turn himself and his ghostly crew human again. So now, two films later, he's teamed up with Elizabeth and Will Turner (Orlando Bloom) to rescue Jack (Johnny Depp). Why? Where's the logic? Where's his motivation for suddenly becoming all buddy-buddy with his enemies?

That's just one of many gripes about POTC: At World's End. For a start, it's waaaaay too long. I mean, before you head to the cinema pack a cut lunch, fill a waterbag and fit a catheter. Yes, it's that long. In fact, director Gore Verbinski seems to get longer with each film — Black Pearl was 143 minutes, Dead Man's Chest was 155 minutes and now this one clocks in at just a little under 3 hours. In his review of Black Pearl, US critic Roger Ebert said that inside it was a nice little 90-minute B-movie struggling to get out. Ditto this time — 2 hours, tops, and this would be a real winner. Gore, take a hint, mate — sometimes, less really is more.

And what is it with Elizabeth looking so gorgeous the whole time? I mean, she's supposed to be a pirate. Yet how many pirates take an entourage of hairdressers and makeup artists to sea with them? I mean, just look at her — there she is, standing among all those dirty, snaggle-toothed, bedraggled pirates, nary a hair or eyebrow out of place, makeup done to perfection, a picture of quiet, seductive beauty. Still, I guess anyone would look good standing next to a guy with a squid for a face.

OK, on to the plot - of which there's a lot. At the start, the East India Trading Company seems to now be running the British Empire and has clamped down on piracy and are busy hanging anyone they suspect even looks like Pirate. Sorry, I mean, even looks like *A* pirate. :D The afore mentioned Barbossa, Elizabeth and Will form an alliance to get Captain Jack out of Davy Jones’ Locker and back into the land of the living for the final showdown.

Which leads me to another gripe — much of the plot (which is just way to busy and overloaded with characters) is obscure and incomprehensible, a bit like Mission: Impossible on the high seas. And for nigh on two-thirds of the film, the dialogue is incomprehensible — either through mumbled or heavily-accented voices, or music and special effectes overpowering the speech. I'm looking forward to the DVD, becuase I can guarantee I'll be watching it with the subtitles on.

All right, enough of the cons — what about the pros? Well, there are a few, but as you'd expect, there is a really big one ... and his name is Johnny Depp. What can I say about his performance as Cap'n Jack that hasn't already been said a hundred times? As with the first two films, he steals every scene he's in. And in scenes there are more than one of him, he steals the scenes from himself (it's complicated, don't ask). Rush comes close — you can clearly see he's enjoying himself, and it's marvellous fun watching him and Depp togther, chewing up the scenery — telescope envy and all. And the final showdown, when it eventually arrives, is well worth the wait — it's an epic, swashbuckling sea battle to end all sea battles. Until the next film. And I'm certain that At World's End — which, despite all my complaints, is still rollicking good fun for the most part — will make bucketloads of money, so you bet your booty there will be a fourth.

But here's some advice for Verbinski, Bruckheimer et al — dump Knightley and Bloom; their characters are dull and have run their course. Just give us Depp, please. Lots of Depp. You know we want it.

Watch the trailer (http://www.totaleclips.com/Player/Bounce.aspx?eclipid=b10003&bitrateid=235&vendorid=782)

Canalien
24-05-2007, 08:29 AM
Saw it last night.... I agree. WAAAAAY too long. Too much story and not enough fun. And one confuckingfusing story at that... trying to keep track of all the double crosses alone is work enough. There was a lot of unnecessary crap that seemed tacked on too, like:
Elizabeth becoming a pirate lord, then pirate king! wtf? pirate king??? and all of a sudden you can't just kill davy jones you have to take his place? and he's only fishy because he fucked over calypso, who may have really fucked him over in the first place and then who was bound to human form by pirates... umm.. how? she's a GOD! and what the fuck happened to her after she got released anyway? how come she didn't just fuck up EVERYBODY like she said she would... all she did was creata big maelstrom and that was it!
Worst of the three IMO.

At least a possible fourth is nicely set up that doesn't need to have Bloom or Knightley in it.

Up_All_Night
30-05-2007, 04:45 AM
the dialogue is incomprehensible — either through mumbled or heavily-accented voices, or music and special effectes overpowering the speech. I'm looking forward to the DVD, becuase I can guarantee I'll be watching it with the subtitles on.


so others had this problem? I saw it with a couple people and we all had this problem, we weren't sure if it was the cinema set up or what.

Honestly in scenes where things are explained, deals made etc. There were many bits too hard to understand and so we were left quite clueless as to why people were doing things, plot etc.


enjoyed the film, but no actually definitive clue on a lot of why what was happening because of the dialogue.

btw there's a thing at the end of the credits.


I also do not like the whole resolution to Will and Elizabeth Turner story.. that fucking sucks balls. It really annoyed me, the only character who was a decent person gets that shit? Just didn't settle well with me, you want them to go live happily ever after.

the end of the credits stuff ruined any real hope of that being resolved, unless it goes The Mummy Returns Route with the kid.

Urban3300
30-05-2007, 06:53 AM
the dialogue is incomprehensible — either through mumbled or heavily-accented voices, or music and special effectes overpowering the speech. I'm looking forward to the DVD, becuase I can guarantee I'll be watching it with the subtitles on I had no problems hearing or understanding.

SOC
30-05-2007, 08:42 AM
It might be my ears then, but the people I saw it with also had the same problem. It wasn't the WHOLE film, but for quite a lot of the time, itg was hard to understand what was being said.

pleed
30-05-2007, 09:47 AM
It wasn't too bad, but definately the worst of the 3.

Up_All_Night
30-05-2007, 04:56 PM
It might be my ears then, but the people I saw it with also had the same problem. It wasn't the WHOLE film, but for quite a lot of the time, itg was hard to understand what was being said.

i wonder if it could do with different sound systems in cinemas, this was definitely a problem where i saw it

Scumbag
05-06-2007, 11:10 AM
I agree, worst of the three. The first one had plenty of slap stick comic relief and action. The second one less so. This had no funnies and minimal action.

poo.