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Lurgen
17-01-2008, 05:30 PM
Well, now I know what they mean when they say "a slippery slope". A few years ago I bought my wife an Apple laptop. Nothing fancy. I've had an iPod for years too, but only the old black & white one. In fact, I've been a staunch Microsoft lackey for years!

Then things started to slip. The Intel-based MacBooks started to get my attention. Then I saw the Mac Pro, in its multi-core glory. The new iPod started to appeal to me. But this didn't matter too much. Not until I saw the iPod Touch. My kid sister got one for Christmas, and from the minute I saw it, I wanted one.

Sometimes a product is great, but fails because of the user interface. Other times, a great user interface isn't enough, and the crappiness of the product makes it fail. The iPod Touch though, has a UI brilliant enough to save it from failure from pretty much any level of shit functionality.

Anyhow, I liked the iPod Touch enough to start asking myself some hard questions. Could I live with only 16GB of space. Could I live with the size (it isn't small). Then I started thinking about the iPhone. After all, the Touch is gimped by Apple, with a whole lot of functionality cut out on purpose. So I started researching the iPhone. I should have known at that point that I was lost.

A week later I had an iPhone. Such is the power of the Apple product and user interface.

Owning an iPhone in Australia is not a trivial achievement. Sure, you can buy one off eBay but that costs a bundle. I've gone the other way, getting one through a personal contact and dealing with the unlocking process myself (with a lot of help from a friend).

Bear in mind that Apple don't want us Aussie's owning their phone just yet, so a lot of things won't work initially. Fortunately, the hacks are good enough now to get all but visual voice-mail working (which doesn't interest me). I have mine running on the Telstra network, with iTunes sync working fine. Youtube works perfectly, Google Maps is brilliant on it, and data acccess is fine. It now recognises Aussie phone number formats properly, supports Australian English, and I can install third-party applications on it. Heaven.

To put this into perspective, last September I bought a Nokia N95. Outright. Cash purchase. Over $1k at the time. Seriously, this device is good enough to justify wasting that much money on a phone.

There are bad points of course...

The screen gets filthy, so a screen protector is mandatory. Accessories are hard to come by, so get used to the eBay lottery (half the stuff on there is rubbish). Third-party apps are pretty limited right now, but the in-built stuff is more than adequate. The camera is pretty crap compared to my N95.

If I'm not paying attention, I might accidentally upgrade the firmware to 1.1.3 (I run 1.1.1) and brick the thing. Nobody has had time to crack the new firmware, as it is only a day old.

There were some surprises too...

The GPS on my N95 was so shit that Google Maps is actually better! The phone book application is a million times easier to use than any of my previous phones, I really figured Apple would botch that one.

People come up to me in public places wanting to see it. This both worries and amuses me. I imagine amusement will vanish when some bastard mugs me for the device.

And as an iPod, this thing is better than an iPod. How wierd is that? Sound quality is better, by a long shot, than either of my "normal" iPods (a third gen B&W piece of junk, and a latest-and-greated 160GB Classic).

The auto-rotate and multitouch stuff is more than just a gimmick. It actually beats any other phone interface. Even for typing - the claims of 40wpm typing are not a joke, you really can use this thing for serious text input.

And there is one really annoying thing...

In the US, iPhones come with an "unlimited" data plan. This means they built it assuming you don't pay Aussie rates for data access. I'm a Telstra corporate customer, so data for me costs roughly the same amount per kB as a kilo of cocaine. Every time I woke the damned thing up for a while there it was pinging the network with a small data packet. Flagfall fees every time I checked the time. Or showed somebody the thing.


Using it under Windows doesn't seem to take away any functionality


I'm not going into detail on all the features though. I just wanted to capture the overall feeling of the transition.

All things considered, I cannot believe how good this device is. As a phone, it is brilliant. Great battery life (3-4 days, and I'm a heavy user), convenient interface, etc. I even make use of it for serious web browsing at home, something I have been able to do on my last 3 phones but never did because the interface was shit.


So here I am. An iPhone convert. Playing around on the Apple online store, configuring my next slip down the slippery slope... an 8 core Mac Pro. And maybe an Apple TV... Where will it end...

Lurgen
17-01-2008, 05:32 PM
Oops, and the obvious question - do we have any other ZGeekers with iPhones in Australia?

gunsella
17-01-2008, 05:58 PM
i don't know if this is a legitamate bad point or if my friend is incompetent,
but she was telling me that you couldn't save phone numbers from text messages on the iphone. ie not the phone number of the sender, but texting someone else's phone number.
is this true?

carsinogenic
17-01-2008, 07:21 PM
iPhones rock!!!
an associate of mine got one, and tweaked it out.
i am sooooo jelious......

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evil
17-01-2008, 07:30 PM
Welcome to the Dark Side Lurgen. Who cares if macs (allegedly) cost more? If time is money, you'll more than come out on top with Mac OS X as you won't be gettin' viruses and blue screens of death every 10 minutes. And an actual shell that is useful (if you're a unix jockey..)

Lurgen
17-01-2008, 09:34 PM
i don't know if this is a legitamate bad point or if my friend is incompetent,
but she was telling me that you couldn't save phone numbers from text messages on the iphone. ie not the phone number of the sender, but texting someone else's phone number.
is this true?
There isn't a cut and paste feature built into the text editor (which really annoys me once in a while), and as far as I can tell so far no way to create a contact from a number embedded in a text message. It's a pretty minor flaw, but possibly something that will get fixed later on. I doubt I'd ever hit it as a problem though.

The SMS application is simultaneously the best and worst SMS app I have ever seen. Threaded conversations work brilliantly well, but cleaning up your SMS history is a little tedious. I only learnt last night how to delete individual msgs, which helps a little.

Welcome to the Dark Side Lurgen. Who cares if macs (allegedly) cost more? If time is money, you'll more than come out on top with Mac OS X as you won't be gettin' viruses and blue screens of death every 10 minutes. And an actual shell that is useful (if you're a unix jockey..)
I'm not convinced they cost more. I own a latest-and-greatest Sony VAIO, and it cost as much as a similar Mac Pro and isn't half as good as I thought it would be. An 8 core Xeon workstation for $4k is unheard of too, I'd struggle to build a similar machine for under $5k and even then I'd lose a lot of functionality.

The shell is something I truly miss from my Unix days, so that'll be nice.

The one thing that makes me nervous is application compatibility. Macs have a serious shortage of applications, so I'm planning on running Parallels in coherence mode pretty much full-time. I figure I'll have 6GB of RAM and 8 CPUs to work with, so overkill stuff like that shouldn't slow me down too much.

Anyhow, back on the phone thing, I replaced my screen protector tonight and let me tell you - pick your screen protector carefully. The first one (which had seen some heavy use before I received my phone, it was a second-hand iPhone to keep costs down) was shit compared to this one. Not that the new one cost much, it was a freebie with a $3.95 eBay-special belt pouch (which also turned out to be freakin' awesome). So screen protectors make a difference. And yes, the glass screen can be scratched. Not easily, and probably not deeply, but enough to make you sob into your hands over your defiled gadget.

carsinogenic
04-03-2008, 07:32 PM
well being there is a few iPhone threads i did not know which one to post this in.
so i will put it here, cause it is "goodness"

for all those fellow code monkeys who wish to own, or already have in their posession, and iPhone....this is for you.

http://wiki.iphonegameover.com/Windows_Cygwin_Binary_Toolchain_Installation

a toolchain for windows.
basically a compiler etc then u use on windows to make exe files for the iphone

the link is where to obtain such software and how to install it.

the minds starts to race!

JumpinJez
05-03-2008, 11:17 AM
Welcome to the Dark Side Lurgen. Who cares if macs (allegedly) cost more? If time is money, you'll more than come out on top with Mac OS X as you won't be gettin' viruses and blue screens of death every 10 minutes. And an actual shell that is useful (if you're a unix jockey..)

Damn Mac fans......I honestly can't remember the last time I got a virus or BSOD on a Windows machine. Admittedly I am more knowledgeable than the average windows user, but then again so are most Mac users.

That said, I wouldn't mind a look at an Iphone. I had a play with a friend's itouch, and it looked like it could replace my aging Dell Axim PDA. Combining that with a phone would be good, as long as I could chuck the SIM in another phone for drunken pants losing shenanigans.

Glompbot
17-03-2008, 07:51 AM
I'm waiting for the official release, rumoured to coincide with the applestore opening on george street (rumoured to be mid to late june).

I'm curious, do you use a windows machine to synch your data or an apple machine?

Supreme_Cmdr
17-03-2008, 08:00 PM
I'm waiting for the official release, rumoured to coincide with the applestore opening on george street (rumoured to be mid to late june).
I too am waiting for Steve to distribute some of his goodness downunder.

matty
17-03-2008, 08:32 PM
I love my iphone. Running 1.1.4 ATM, I've had one other touchscreen (O2 xda atom) and having to use a stylus annoyed the fuck out of me.

and3w
17-03-2008, 08:51 PM
Sorry, had to re-post it here, it seems so appropriate...

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