Moving to Melbourne

[Several-Ninjas]

I'm thinking about moving to Melbourne.

Particularly looking at areas in the west, in and around Footscray where I will be potentially gaining employment. I don't know many people from that way, any Melbourne Zgeeks know much about this area? The rent on properties looks suspiciously cheap, is it a crappy area? Lots of crime? Built on an ancient aboriginal burial ground? Radioactive!? Does it just plain stink? Whats the deal? It looks like the ideal spot for me though, I'm used to living in crappy areas, it really can't be much worse than where I am now. ADVICES? THANKS GUISE :3

[Cassa]

I live out that way and it's not that bad.

[dwarfthrower]

Footscray gets a bad rap but it's ok. Cheap food, all the usual sort of shops you need, decent pubs. Kick the vomit and syringes off the path and it scrubs up ok. Mind you I don't think I've been to Footscray in about a decade or so. There used to be an awesome little caravan under where the railway station is that made and sold jam donuts. They fried the donuts right there in the caravan and then squirted the jam into them with a little handpump in the shape of a dolphin and the jam came out the dolphin's snout. They sold the donuts for about 30c each.

[Several-Ninjas]

Well, I'm living in an area full of junkies and hookers right now it's not that bad, I mean they're not the type that are really going to cause problems, they tend to just scurry off to their lairs when they get their drugs and aren't a hassle. I guess I can deal with that but was hoping to not have to...where else can I go that's not too far away from that area and won't give me a blood borne disease from just rolling to the shops without shoes on?

[Jimma]

Great part of town. Under fucking rated. Drugs cost half what they do in the Eastern suburbs.

[dwarfthrower]

Williamstown is a nice little spot. Full of wankers trying to pretend it's not a working-class suburb, but kick them off the path and it scrubs up ok too. I lived there for a year and a half. Great pubs, shops can be a bit of a hassle, the supermarket there didn't open on Sundays when I was living there, but I assume that's changed. The Chinese takeaway used to do awesome dim-sims at forty cents each.

Newport, Spotswood and Yarraville are in between Williamstown and Footscray along the Williamstown branch of the railway line. They're a bit boring, but cleaner than Footscray, both have decent pubs and reasonable shops.

Anything North or West of that and it's just deepest, darkest suburbia. Cookie-cutter houses backed up against factories, although parts of Altona are ok.

The other option is to go for somewhere like Moonee Ponds, Ascot Vale or Essendon.

[ms edeity]

Great part of town. Under fucking rated. Drugs cost half what they do in the Eastern suburbs.
hehe.

[Several-Ninjas]

Williamstown is a nice little spot. Full of wankers trying to pretend it's not a working-class suburb, but kick them off the path and it scrubs up ok too.

Great part of town. Under fucking rated. Drugs cost half what they do in the Eastern suburbs.

Hmmm! The choices! I can handle the junkie type areas and I am impressed by drugs on occasion, the cheapness of the area definitely appeals to me. But then again paying more to live in an area where you don't feel you need to hide a weapon in every room is worth the extra money, but then I get to go out and play less. I think I hate wankers more than junkies though. Footaids maybe worth the extra play money.

Thanks for the run down everyone, you can all come to my house and play with ninjas when/if I decide to make the move :3

[Chocoholic]

when are you thinking about moving? i have washing machine, table, microwave, couch and bedroom furniture to sell, i don't want to move it.

[Cassa]

Williamstown sucks if you want to go from there to anywhere that isn't Williamstown

[skylar]

The Viets tell me that Footscray proper is not a good area, but that Footscray West is better.

[ms edeity]

sorry, i don't know anywhere out of zone 1.

[Several-Ninjas]

A user called polite left this in my rep comments "I never neg- rep. But fuck you. Juvenile." for saying this:

Well, I'm living in an area full of junkies and hookers right now it's not that bad, I mean they're not the type that are really going to cause problems, they tend to just scurry off to their lairs when they get their drugs and aren't a hassle. I guess I can deal with that but was hoping to not have to...where else can I go that's not too far away from that area and won't give me a blood borne disease from just rolling to the shops without shoes on?

What gives? I'm serious, I don't want to live in a shitty, drug infested, low socio-economic populated area anymore. A friend of our family contracted Hep C from a needle while doing building work around here, digging around in the ground.

Shit, last year our neighbour 2 doors up was BLOWN UP in mysterious circumstances, his entire fucking house burnt to the ground within an hour and he burnt alive in it. I caught the aftermath on camera I'll upload it. Things are always blowing up around here because of crack-labs, but I'm pretty sure this dude WAS BOMBED intentionally, we knew him and he wasn't a crackhead cooking up shit.... We heard the BOOM and as soon as we got out there it was already too late, flames BELCHING out meters up into the sky already. There are plenty of shootings and dudes have been beaten to death on the end of my street.

I was hoping to not have to deal with these kinds of shenanigans anymore...

But if Footscray isn't THAT BAD i.e. people getting stabbed/blown up and infected with things like here...then I can dig it.

What about out wester towards Sunshine, or the more central western areas like yarraville? I'd prefer to be out west as thats where I'll be working, Williamstown sounds OK I've got a car..transport is not an issue.

[Several-Ninjas]

OOH OH OH there is this house on our street we call 'the murder house' because it just looks like people get taken there by serial killers and murdered, its seriously fucking scary, words cannot impart the fear you get from looking at it. You can feel the death coming from it. It's intense. I'll get photos of the murder house along with the black shell of bob's old house where he was fire bombed and post them, chilling visions. Can't wait to move XD

[muppet]

Dwarfy - the donut van is still in footscray at the station - and the old guy that would've been running it a decade ago when you last went, is still there, only his son runs the place now - and it'll go on like that forever I think - coz they were there when I was a young lass catching trains with my parents around age 4 and I hope they're gonna still be there when I die, coz I want their donuts served at my wake.

SevNin - I live in St Albans - bout 20 mins from Footscary and the west isn't as bad as people make it out to be. If you're already living in an area similar to Footscary where you are (yes, the typo IS intentional) then you'll fit right in.

If you have myfarce i mean facebook, go here (http://www.facebook.com/board.php?uid=5148727614) it'll give you the most accurate picture of who'll you'll be living near - provided you're prepared for ginos and marias :D

Plus, I live in the west, and I'm not dead yet.

[Cassa]

I live in Sunshine, now that you've mentioned it. It's working class suburbia, is the best way to describe it, but if you can dig that then you'll find it's ok. I'm in zone one, 5 minutes walk from a train station, 10 minutes walk from the shops and 20 minutes by train to Melbourne Central.

[muppet]

Pretty much what cassa said - also, the rent is decent - I'm in a 5 year old 3 bedroom villa unit, and I've been paying $180pw for the past 4 years.. I rent privately, and my landlady loves me, and has given me an open ended lease for the rest of my life if I so choose, at the same rent, forever. So yeah, I'm happy. Plus, there are some nice parts - like where I am, we're 500 metres from the station, the estate is only 6 years old and we're close to everything. Only we're zone 2 not 1 but oh well can't have everything. I'm 5-10 minutes from every shopping centre near my house - keilor downs, brimbank, watergardens, delahey village, I'm 25 mins drive from the city via the freeway, my neighbours don't annoy the shit out of me, and the bottleshop down the road sells grog and smokes cheap, so EvilMuppet and myself can keep our seperate addictions funded :D

[Several-Ninjas]

Mups, what are ginos and marias? I don't think we have them here, we have fully sik mate bros...like guidos...do you mean guidos?

I don't know if I want to be in Footscary on my own then. I mean, I don't know anyone down there...I have peeps here, so it's not as scary as it could be.

Sunshine is only 20 minutes from melbourne CBD Cassa? That sounds cool. I think I can handle working class suburbia...I'm looking to rearrange myself into the professional, middle class strata of society with this move anyway.

I'll check it out thanks! :3

[Several-Ninjas]

What's with these zones? Are you a bad person for not being in zone 1 mups? Should I make an effort to stay out of the lesser zones and away from you, deviant types?? Now these zones...THEY sound intimidating.

[Cassa]

Zones refer to public transport. This explains it pretty well http://www.metlinkmelbourne.com.au/fares_tickets/metropolitan_fares_and_tickets/metropolitan_zones

[ms edeity]

my not being out of zone 1 has more to do with not ever driving and that once you live in your neighbourhood, i find you rarely leave except for holidays,etc or to visit someone.
i wish i did know more about different parts of melbourne but i've only been here 4yrs and i only really know where i've lived around.

[skylar]

(As above) They mean train and tram Connex zoning - check this link to see what they mean as well:Connex Network Map - Trains (http://www.connexmelbourne.com.au/media/images/network_map.gif)

Blue is Zone 2, yellow is zone 1. A station that has both blue and yellow means you can have either a zone 1 or zone 2 ticket if you get off at that station. If you live and work in zone 1, a ticket is more expensive than living and working in zone 2. Zone 1 and 2 tickets are the most expensive eg. you live in zone 2 and work in zone 1, or vice versa. Ticket prices are quite expensive here - a zone 1 ticket for a month is just over $100. Not all station names correspond to suburb names either, so have a look at a Melway to see the area the station is in.

[dwarfthrower]

Dwarfy - the donut van is still in footscray at the station

Do they still have the dolphin?

[dozer]

is it really safe to walk around st albans these days?

[sperm]

Thanks for telling me where you all live, it makes stalking so much easier ......

Hey dwarfy, I thought yarraville, williamstown etc were some of the worst to get caught up in the property boom, last I read some of those inner west suburbs were approaching mid-eastern prices.

go house-share if you can ninjas, ive done it before and its cool as you dont have to put your name on the lease and you can lean on someone else to have their shit together.

[Several-Ninjas]

Far out. I must say, you Melbourne types already seem WAY FRIENDLIER than what I'm used to...all this helpful stuff and thing, you guise are awesome. So I understand zones now I want to be in zone 1 definitely, thanks Cassa, skylar, you are good people. Muppet, you are a bad person, zone 2...*Shakes head*. :3

Why the no driving though? I like driving. It seems you Melbourne peoples don't really get down with your automobiles. Do you seriously think I don't need it to live in zone 1? I'm considering selling it for the move anyway. I hate catching public transport but thats because here everyone on buses and trains stink and are looking to rob you.

Do you guise have any opinions on the southern west areas around kingsville?

[Cassa]

Kingsville is not well serviced by public transport. The Westgate bridge can be a bottleneck in peak hour so I would think about that.
For the most part, inner suburbs are quite well serviced by public transport so you shouldn't really need to drive

[Several-Ninjas]

OUTSTANDING!

You all have given me much to consider and I appreciate it greatly.

I'm rather keen on moving out of N.S.W...and I'm just about convinced its an awesome idea now. XD

Sunshine, Braybrook, Maidstone, those areas look nice, are affordable, close to where I need to be and the CBD...I'm sold! Fuck Footscary and Wankerstown! Thanks heaps for the advices.

[muppet]

hahaha Cassa aren't you in Albion? Which, really, is zone 1 mixed in with a bit of zone 2? :p so Cassa's just as bad as me.

I'd die without my car, SevNin. I COULD catch PT to work, but I cbf and it's too much of a hassle anyway . Plus, they don't let me smoke on trains and that sucks too. Oh wait, I don't smoke in my car anymore - but still, you get my point.

If you're even considering moving out a little bit further - but you're working in Footscary, then also have a look around Sydenham and Delahey, you can find some decent places close to transport (if you're looking for PT that is), like I said, I'm a 500m walk from the train station at Keilor Plains. I'm just too lazy to PT :D

And Dwarfy - I don't know if they still have the dolphin, I haven't been there in years, but my mum brings me donuts whenever she goes to forges :D

[astro]

Every suburb of Melbourne is inferior to Richmond because that's where I am and I'm awesome.

[Cassa]

Well technically Albion yes, but it's still a zone 1 station!

You could add West Footscray to that list SN, it's not really anything like Footscray proper

[Glompbot]

Richmond is quite spiffy.. I have friends that like like 1 block from the private hospital on bridge road.

[Jimma]

Williamstown sucks if you want to go from there to anywhere that isn't Williamstown
Hardly. I live about a 2 minute walk from Williamstown station and it's a 20 minute ride to Flinders including a few minutes wait at Newport.

Anyway Williamstown kind of defeats the purpose of living in the West. We just moved here because we're Altona people who didn't want to move too far away.

Braybrook/Sunshine area is conveniently located and inexpensive to rent.

If the rent seems affordable to you, Seddon and Yarraville are nice suburbs these days. Really short train ride to the city (10 minutes or so), and if you drive to the city you can take smaller streets and get to the CBD in 20 minutes during peak hour. If you worked in North Melbourne or West Melbourne it'd be a 10 to 15 minute drive in peak hour.

If you're looking at Footscray/Kingsville, the best areas are just to the South West of Buckley St and Victoria St (on Emma St, Pilgrim St etc), and the best value is around Cruickshank park which is a bit further from town, but a nice area and rent is a lot lower.

[ms edeity]

Every suburb of Melbourne is inferior to Richmond because that's where I am and I'm awesome.
richmond lost it's awesome when we left.

[MyPetMonkey]

East Melbourne/Jolimont representZ!!!!!!!!!!!

[muppet]

Well technically Albion yes, but it's still a zone 1 station!

You could add West Footscray to that list SN, it's not really anything like Footscray proper
i remember when I was a little kid we could jump on the train at St Albans and go to Albion for 90c (only buying a zone 2 DAILY TICKET..) and spend the day bowling for $6.50 - cheapest day out ever, and heaps of fun too. You'd use the change from the $10 your parents would give you to play pinnies.

[Lina]

Every suburb of Melbourne is inferior to Richmond because that's where I am and I'm awesome.

Pft. Carlton pwns Richmond. If only for the mafia and Land of Siam thai food :drools:

[foolish42]

Abbotsford FWIW. That stats speak for themselves.

http://www.censusdata.abs.gov.au/ABSNavigation/prenav/LocationSearch?collection=Census&period=2006&areacode=SSC21003&producttype=QuickStats&breadcrumb=PL&action=401
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbotsford,_Victoria

[Several-Ninjas]

Abbotsford FWIW. That stats speakf or themselves.

http://www.censusdata.abs.gov.au/ABSNavigation/prenav/LocationSearch?collection=Census&period=2006&areacode=SSC21003&producttype=QuickStats&breadcrumb=PL&action=401

Census data to sus out a suburb...that's an awesome idea! Thanks for the tip not so foolish one.

[Xythan]

Around Newmarket, especially right by the station is by far the only place in the West I've ever liked...so I live in the East, the North wasn't too bad but it wasn't for me anymore.

I'd recommend a place on the eastern side of the Newmarket station, it's got some awesome places there, the food is good, the shops are close and the transport is awesome.

[Chocoholic]

Richmond is quite spiffy.. I have friends that like like 1 block from the private hospital on bridge road.

Is this friend me? as that is where i live... near the train station...

I live in richmond very happily without a car. I am moving to sydney as i want to spend some time with my dad before he dies and the first thing on my list is buy a car. I won't live in Sydney without one,

[Glompbot]

Nah, the friends I stayed with when I was down for new years :)
They live on goodwood street :)

[Lurgen]

So many inner-city zgeekers... I live where there are no trains. Few buses. And nowhere to go within walking distance. Sure, I could be referring to Coburg but I'm actually waay-outer-south-eastern.

If not for my family, I'd be living within walking distance of the CBD. The commute fucking sucks.

[Tintin]

Really, Footscray fucking sucks and I wouldn't live there in a million years. Having said that though I do live in a much better suburb and I've got a murder house in my street too. I've been working in St. Albans a bit lately and there always seems to be a couple of newly bombed-out houses along Main Rd West every time I go out there. Consider Brunswick or Z-Burg.

[Hired Goon]

Really, Footscray fucking sucks and I wouldn't live there in a million years. Having said that though I do live in a much better suburb and I've got a murder house in my street too. I've been working in St. Albans a bit lately and there always seems to be a couple of newly bombed-out houses along Main Rd West every time I go out there. Consider Brunswick or Z-Burg.

I agree, I'll never move to Footer's cray. I lived in Zburg Nth for 6 or so months before moving to London - DO NOT move to the North part of Zburg - its like 15 minutes drive to anything and it was really shit.

I have nice things to say about Richmond and I lived in Malvern for a while too. Malvern is full of nice old ladies that pull you up on the footpath and yammer on for hours which can be annoying if you're life philosophy is to hate everything and everyone. The best thing about malvern is that its easy to get anywhere in melbourne from there. But it is expensive.

Don't even consider Dandenong - world's shittest suburb. Frankston is pretty shit too, but hey at least it has a beach.

[dwarfthrower]

Don't even consider Dandenong - world's shittest suburb.

I lived in Dandenong for a couple of years and quite enjoyed it. Wouldn't attempt to raise a family there, but as a young bloke with a taste for adventure it was good fun.

[Rodeoclash]

I did a write up on this a few months ago here:

http://www.melpedia.net/wiki/Find_the_Best_Place_to_live_in_Melbourne

It mostly deals with the inner suburbs, and if you're planning on renting rather then buying. You might be able to get some useful information out of it though :)

[primus]

I've lived all over. started in Maribyrnong and footscray, fucking hated it, shit got stolen alot and we used to find junkies past out out the front of our house. wouldnt move back there if I was paid.

moved to Brunswick and Northcote after that, Northcote was awesome cheap rent, big places and close to plenty of PT. I live in Elwood now and love it, will probly buy out this way, its more expensive but its close to the beach and PT and plenty of nightlife.

[skylar]

So. Are you moving? We are awesome peoples.

[Several-Ninjas]

So. Are you moving? We are awesome peoples.

lol rofl. awesome.

I'm not sure atm...I'm being interviewed for a position there so I have to consider the possibility...although I had an interview in Sydney yesterday that went really well and the job there is way more attractive than the Melbourne one...so if they offer me the Sydney job I stay here for at least another 12 months. I hate Sydney its expensive and rude; but this is a balls out hardcore fucking opportunity for me that I can't turn down no matter how much I hate Sydney.

Me and my partner want to get out of here ASAP...and Melbourne is top on the list of rad places to go...so this thread hasn't been in vain :3

If I don't get offered the position in Sydney I'm a apply for more Melbourne ones and push harder to get down there...but not move to Footscary as I originally thought...thanks for the heads up. Had enough of junkie towns full of deadbeats.

[MyPetMonkey]

Beware... If you move to Melbourne you'll have a bunch of pretentious arseholes asking you if you think Melbourne is better than Sydney...

Don't ever mention to Melbournians that you're from Sydney because they have hang-ups... I'm sorry i'm trying to be fair but after living here for 8 months i've learnt not to mention that i'm from Sydney.... I've learned it's better to pretend that I know where something is in Melbourne than state that I don't....

You try to deflect by saying "from not around here" but that doesn't work. For as expensive and rude that Sydney is (of which I agree), Melbourne is four-fold as pretentious.

I don't give a fuck about the place I live, it's how I run my life that counts. I've moved country, outback and interstate.... But melbourne has taken the cake...

Don't get me wrong Melbourne is a great city, beautiful city.... but its gotta stop trying to one up everybody.

[ezer]

i live in watsonia in a gated community, its awesome

[skylar]

Beware... If you move to Melbourne you'll have a bunch of pretentious arseholes asking you if you think Melbourne is better than Sydney...Heh, I've had some people do that to me too... I always respond saying that they're just not comparable really, which they aren't. Anyway, I am from neither city and indeed not this country, so I don't really know why some people care so much.

[Tintin]

i live in watsonia in a gated community, its awesomeIs that why we never see you at ZMeets? :p

[dwarfthrower]

i live in watsonia in a gated community, its awesome

I thought Larundel was closed down?

[RedMaN]

I would consider moving south of the border as well, if I had a job opportunity there. Based on the recent tour, I could definitely see myself living there. Sacrilege, I know :D

[ms edeity]

Heh, I've had some people do that to me too... I always respond saying that they're just not comparable really, which they aren't. Anyway, I am from neither city and indeed not this country, so I don't really know why some people care so much.
originally from sydney, now love melbourne...had the question - never had a problem with answering. i say they are comparable - hate the rudeness/impersonal sydney stuff. most people i meet don't give a crap. actually - never had anyone give a crap.

[Holster]

doooo it redman

[Cassa]

Melbourne people ask with an air of confirming what they already know
Sydney people ask with the air of astonishment that a city could be better than just its superficial features

[RedMaN]

doooo it redman
I had such a great time during the recent trip, I'll definitely be coming back in a couple of months for some more debauchery.
You can stand me up again :silly:

[Holster]

I had such a great time during the recent trip, I'll definitely be coming back in a couple of months for some more debauchery.
You can stand me up again :silly:

I was full of sick :(

If you come after october i'll let you be my bitch <3

[astro]

I wouldn't go back to Sydney if you paid me.

[Cassa]

queens birthday long weekend

Pack some woollens

[ms edeity]

I was full of sick :(

If you come after october i'll let you be my bitch <3
kk imma gonna have to be there for this - make me an honorary bitch official holly.

[Snowball]

If you can afford it i would look at Seddon, Newport, Yarraville or even Kingsville.
Some people have said Kingsville is not close to public transport but parts of it are only a short 15 minute walk to Yarraville Station.

Someone said Yarraville is boring, god knows where that came from as there are some great bars, restaurants and Cafes.

[Cassa]

I was looking to buy in Kingsville, it's not a bad area - you do need to make sure it's in the right part though

[RedMaN]

I was full of sick :(

If you come after october i'll let you be my bitch <3
Promises, promises ;) Why the long wait? I can be your bitch anytime...

I'm not sure of the exact time, but it will definitely be in another couple of months. I just need to get some more holidays behind me and I'll probably make it a regular thing.

Sorry for derailing you thread, SN :D

[Holster]

Because I'll have an unrestricted bike licence by then

[Boobmeister]

Because I'll have an unrestricted bike licence by then


Hmm the year marches by quickly. We'll have to start organising our ride soon :p

[RedMaN]

Because I'll have an unrestricted bike licence by then
Interesting.
Now it makes sense... pillion bitch. Gotcha *taps nose*

[Several-Ninjas]

WOWZORS!

I'm not moving to Melbourne this year.

I landed the more hardcore/better paying/awesome opportunity Sydney job.

Thanks for the Melbourne advice though everyone, I still want to get down there eventually once I finish the program I just accepted...Melbourne does sound rad but there was no way I could say no to this opportunity. OMG.

Maybe next year Melbourne dudes...XD

[Gronk]

Hey I would like to resurrect this thread as I am not only thinking of moving to Melbourne - I will be in about 2 months. I have accepted a job over there starting around the 1st July.

So I will be packing up my crap and getting the hell out of Perth. Any advice would be appreciated. I am looking a bit further out as I have a wife and a couple of kids and also houses are bloody expensive in close. I like the look of the hills areas but they may be a bit too far away.

Thoughts?

[Gronk]

So it looks like I have sold my place here in Perth. I am organising some removal quotes and looking to come over for a couple of days to pick out a new pad. I can also suss out my new job and sign all of the shiz that goes with it.

Killer! Hello. Am I talking to myself here? Well stuff it I want to meet up with some of you buggers when I get there for a beer.

[skylar]

I think we're all infoed out. But let us know when you are around.

[Fitty]

Where are you working? Make sure you check out the availability of schools/public transport anywhere you decide to buy because there is a decided lack of both in the fringes. And which hills are you talking about? There are plenty around.

edit: There are some areas that are in close enough but are fairly under rated as well. You'd do well to check out the North Eastern suburbs I reckon.

[rascuache]

The Viets tell me that Footscray proper is not a good area, but that Footscray West is better.

Some real estate agent told me that at the beginning of the year when i was looking for a new flat.

Thankfully i ignored her and found a nice little place in West Melbourne.
The people that moved out of my place were viets, they moved to footscray, they said its fine if you're vietnamese.

[muppet]

where abouts in melb is the job Gronk?

find somewhere that's situated close to schools & transport - you'll appreciate that when the kids are older (if they're not already old enough to PT to school) as well as something that'll get you onto the freeways quickly if you're travelling by car.. also if you're looking for train stations to park your car at, suss them out too because some are safer than others - good to know if you're working late..

Check out the usual places for housing - www.domain.com.au - as well as the local papers for the specific area you're looking at.. the one's in the west around my area are The Advocate and i can't remember any more oops there goes that train of thought

[Snowball]

Some real estate agent told me that at the beginning of the year when i was looking for a new flat.

Thankfully i ignored her and found a nice little place in West Melbourne.
The people that moved out of my place were viets, they moved to footscray, they said its fine if you're vietnamese.


There is also a lot of Sudanese(sp). However what they said about Footscray west is true, it is much better than Footscray itself.

[Gronk]

Thanks for all the tips guys. I am here and have started work (at Crown) and everything is humming along.

I bought a place in Upwey - Miles out but right near the train and it is a cute little community. There was snow around on the weekend which spun me right out.

But Melbourne is beautiful and I am totally loving it here. I look forward to meeting some of you guys at one of the future meet ups.

[ms edeity]

where at crown?

we have a friend - ie a bartender that makes really awesome cocktails - he went to work at the crown - gay as tulips - hot as hell - i called him patrick but his real name is glen.
if you know him tell him isaid to 'clean himself up'.

[Fitty]

Mate of mine just quit his job as a dealer at Crown, he couldn't stand it. 2 months of nights, 2 months of days... and each one 8 hours of pure boredom, apparently.

[skylar]

Wow, Upwey. Faaaaaar but lovely.

[Gronk]

In the IT dep - I transfered from Burswood in Perth. No shift work for me luckily - just the usual after hours work that come with the territory in the IT game.
Yeah Upwey is nice but bloody far. I am powering through the books on the train though :)