Are you actually a geek?

[utopian]

If not, then go back to fark. If so, prove it. Justify to me what it is about you that makes you a geek.

Valid answers include: I do differential calculus in my spare time.

Invalid answers include: LOL I LOEV TO PLAY SIMS ON THE COMPUTER MECHAINE AND TORK 2 PPLZ ON MSN MESSAGER!!!!1`

I'd be interested to know just how many people here have a geeky background.

Geggle, Spingo, druid, Movius and Weatherman need not apply. ;)

NB. This is not a "You don't belong here" thread. This is for people to show me what it is about themselves that make them a geek. If you're not a geek, you have no proof that you are one, and hence have no need to post.

[no_dice]

Well on one hand, I have a freeBSD server at home with 387 days of uptime, running as an email server, web server, DNS server, and FTP. The rest of my network consists of 3PC's, 1 powerbook and 1 iMac (I have 3 roommates, 2 of which don't know a computer from their ass).

On the other hand, I have a hot girlfriend, I'm a snowboard instructor, used to be a sponsored skateboarder (shoes only) and have a good sense of style (I work in a clothing store part time).

So I think I'm on the fence:P

[utopian]

Originally posted by no_dice
Well on one hand, I have a freeBSD server at home with 387 days of uptime, running as an email server, web server, DNS server, and FTP. The rest of my network consists of 3PC's, 1 powerbook and 1 iMac (I have 3 roommates, 2 of which don't know a computer from their ass).
How much of it did you build yourself? Is the kernel one that you've customised to suit your own needs? I take it the powerbook and iMac are owned by the inept housemates :cool:

Girlfriends don't really count as far as determination of geekiness goes. Druid seems to have a fairly attractive girlfriend.

[SmaSheD_CoW]

I have been known to wake up at 3am, go take a piss, and then decide to do 20mins work on a java project before I go back to bed.

'nuff said?

[utopian]

Originally posted Paul Erdös
A mathematician is a machine that turns coffee into thereoms.

I think we can adapt this to apply to you, SmaSheD_CoW.

[no_dice]

The server was all built from scratch by me, as was the kernel:P

I own the powerbook....I was looking to get a laptop and could think of nothing better than a OS based on BSD and and that has a DVD burner:P

[Nandragon]

OOooops, sorry...

wrong thread...not supposed to post in the Utop's I am the math-man thread.;)







edited

[utopian]

Get out of my thread, hick. Read the post and then come back when you're a little more technically minded.

[Nandragon]

*pinches cheeks*

yes sweety pie;)

but are you going to explain some great and wonderful math problem for us.....go ahead, show us hicks.

[Asmodeus]

Hmm.. lets see.. am I a geek..

Do any of these count?
Know and use 2 flavors of assembler
used to program in CICS
built my last 10 machines, latest one is more than you have
I make win32 apps in asm for fun
i currently use about 4-5 languages at work for computers
I can burp on command
I have a c-64, 1541 FDD, and the commodore monitor
I'm working on making my own language and compiler
I've had dreams of code, and they worked.
I actually signed up for the ULC
I was accepted into mensa
I know "Bob"
I used to know how to use a slide rule
I understood most of the cobol 88-level entry jokes
In voice chat in games, i've been known to say LoL out loud
I was in the great GIF pronunciation debate on fidonet
i remember fidonet
i remember dialup BBSs
I still play LORD and USURPER on telnet BBSs

hmm, anything else.. i dunno..

[Mr Bigglesworth]

dialup BBS's.....they were the golden days of pr0n

*sighs and reminisces*

[russ9000]

Does this make me Geeky enough?

I have eight computers in my house all built by me. 3 of which are servers 2 running Novell one linux.

My main pc is in the lounge so my wife can see me now and then.

My wife has a pc in her study and when she is in there I iCQ her to see if she want a cuppa....

I will look up the weather online rather than look out the window.

I am a Network Admin for a Large company so on a PC all day then when I get home on it all night.


I too remember BBS and loved them... I rembember apple IIs and 8086....

Yeah must be getting old now...

Russ
:rolleyes:

[astro]

Well, for work i build and maintain business PABX telephone systems, which is kinda geeky, but not really.

My real argument is that i'm sitting in a darkened room at the moment (it's a saturday night). I'm using the following computers:

1. WinXP machine - mainly for games (Currently turned off)
2. RedHat8 machine - mainly for surfing and desktop stuff (browsing ZGeek and typing this message)
3. Redhat7.2 server (currently recompiling a new kernel to include support for my new scsi hard disk and cdrw)
4. iBook running Yellow Dog linux (currently playing some music with mpg123 - a command line based mp3 player)
5. Amiga4000 (halfway through a game of Dune II)
6. Apple PPC-66 (doing nothing at all as i don't have a network card for it yet)
7. Coffee machine (currently perking it's 6th jug of the evening)

In the loungeroom there's a 36" data monitor (kindly donated by the australian stock exchange) which is connected to my entertainment PC - a nice big hard disk, dvd player and an sb live! with live drive for optical output to my surround amp (next in line for the entertainment pc is a TV tuner card so i can actually watch tv on it :) ). On the couch is a copy of "the universe in a nutshell" - the sequel to stephen hawking's last book, a brief history of time. and yes, this one's a brain-melter too.

In the bedroom there's a notebook next to my bed so i can listen to mp3's and watch "movies", and lets me give my brain a workout as at the moment i'm using it to toy with a new language - brainfuck (http://cydathria.com/bf/)

Hmmm... Time to see how that coffee's doing.

[IML337]

I would have called someone who does differential calculus in their spare time a nerd, not a geek... :)

[dmso12]

Originally posted by IML337
I would have called someone who does differential calculus in their spare time a nerd, not a geek... :)

OK, so I have no idea how to code or to tweak kernals, but I can in fact create recombinant DNA, locate and sequence genes, and am currently describing several new proteins in the oyster. And I enjoy almost every minute of it. And My girlfriend is hot, with nice plump boobies.

Does that make me a nerd? Or a geek?

Technically, by definition geeks are those who bite the heads off of chickens at circuses .........

[plext]

I manage a network of 10 000 pc's

I have about two dozen (at last count) pc's about the house including a Compaq ML580 and two IBM 345's in a rack in my study.

My home runs gigabit ethernet via an HP procurve 4000m switch and wireless IEEE 802.11g via USR kit.

I am the top producing (http://www.statsman.org/folding2stats/users.html) individual contributor to Folding@Home (http://www.overclockers.com.au/folding)

I write code and overclock machines in my spare time.

I think I probably qualify :)

[robotoverflow]

I'm too lazy to be a geek :(

[tikdoph]

If not, then go back to fark. If so, prove it. Justify to me what it is about you that makes you a geek.

Valid answers include: I do differential calculus in my spare time.

Invalid answers include: LOL I LOEV TO PLAY SIMS ON THE COMPUTER MECHAINE AND TORK 2 PPLZ ON MSN MESSAGER!!!!1`

I'd be interested to know just how many people here have a geeky background.

Geggle, Spingo, druid, Movius and Weatherman need not apply. ;)

NB. This is not a "You don't belong here" thread. This is for people to show me what it is about themselves that make them a geek. If you're not a geek, you have no proof that you are one, and hence have no need to post.
I taught myself BASIC before you were born.

[MisterBishi]

I'm glad this thread got bumped because fuck me I am so sick of the war and so so so fucking sick of immature fuckups with relationship problems.

[tikdoph]

You only had to ask.

[durus]

I played GURPS, AD&D 2nd Ed and several other RPGs in high school.
I used to be the reigning champ of the Magic the Gathering club in high school.
dropped out of uni cos i found it boring.
I've built every pc i have ever owned (since i was 16).
I could use DOS when I was 6 (mmm atari 2600 goodness).
I was coding BASIC when i was 7 (oooh look at the turtle).
I know C, C++, Java, Ada and ASM68K
I learned enough to get full marks for an end of semester Access asignment in 1 day.
I have been on a diet so that i could afford new to buy a 3d card (oh my original voodoo, how i loved you).
I am working in Home Automation. Or as my friends said when they came by my office Geek Heaven.
I spend 3-4 hours a day on the computer at home and another 6-8 hours on a computer in the office. The other 4-6 hours i'm awake i'm either driving, eating or in meetings.
fear me i am GEEK MAN!!!! :borg:

[Psycho Jon]

Know u-C, a C clone for small processors.
Know C.
Know 'Assembly', lovely!
I know that 'COBOL' stands for Compiles Only Because Of Luck. ;-)
Have built my own PC since '92.
Have played 'GURPS' and am writing my own source book.
Loved 'Scorched Earth' and 'Syndicate'.
Lusted after a 20MHz 80286!
Used to leach pr0n off ye-old dialup BBS.

Trained as am embedded design engineer, am working as a computer tech for an ISP...

No, never! I won't admit to any knowledge of BASIC.

[dwarfthrower]

I used to think I was a geek... but I bow before some of the geek prowess I see here...

I can program in several languages, and get paid to do it. I build my own effects boxes for the guitar and I once telnetted to port 25 to send myself email from god.

I am only journeyman geek.

[lostreality]

No, never! I won't admit to any knowledge of BASIC.

lol first language i learnt. Then I taught my self HTML, then when I finished education I was accepted to uni to study cybernetics(i really wanted medical cybernetics), but i turned it down for job in pc engineering but then the company i worked for went into liqudation, I am now a web designer/developer & just started my own business.

For my final college project i started to develop a clone of the NHSIT using GNU (linux, my sql etc etc) software cutting costs from £1.5b(at the time) to an estimated £10mil - on paper looked good but never ever got round to finishing it.

I have a small network (SOHO) consisting of only 2 machines, but with various outlets for plugging in other m/c's to run on the network because I never turn down hardware work as i enjoy it.

I'm off to the linux world expo in london this coming october (hopefully)

errrm..... I sit in the dark alot, I have nice big 21" samsung monitor (CRT) and i'm only 20 and errrm...Last IQ test i took claimed my IQ was 138(i think - can't remember long time ago) not that IQ test's really add up to much IMHO.

First computer I had was a Amstrad CPC464 when I was 8.

[Icky_Thoomp]

Fuck, talk about feeling inadequate amongst present company....

I can set time on most videos.
I can pick the make of PCs on desks in the background of news stories.
I shudder with disgust when I hear "my PC is running Windows Me".
I keep a couple of ISA cards just in case I pick up a free mobo with ISA slots in it.

I think I qualify as an "Eek" rather than a "Geek".

[Lord_Phat]

i spend a lot of my time at work staring at tcpdump, and it actually means a lot to me
i've written over twenty thousand lines of shell code in the past year
i can hardly utter a sentence without using a tla (three letter acronym)
i've administrated on six different types of unix
i know that linux is not a unix

as other parties have stated, there is a flip side to their geekiness

i am a gym junkie
i ride (and eventually crash :p) sportsbikes
i rarely get picked for a geek
does anyone not think their gf is hot? :D

[MaJeztik]

Yeh recently i have been labelled a "geek" by my mates coz I got my redhat cert. I run 2 linux servers at home (proxy/dns/dhcp & fileserver) & im a regular in geek/tech forums such as this.

When i was in school i was labelled a "computer geek", i had to admin the schools computer rooms & such.

Now look at em, most of em are deadshits who didnt even pass yr 12. All the sluts that used to give me shit got preggers & had kids when they were 18, now they sit at home & dream about the life they are never going to have.

i think ill take this to the bitching forums... ;)

[minorproblem]

I Enjoy my physics and maths study for uni nuff said, i can also program in c++ and basic. I really do enjoy doing maths problems however. I was one of the members to help setup the sitacs society at uni and first thing we are organising is pizza and programming nights

[minorproblem]

i spend a lot of my time at work staring at tcpdump, and it actually means a lot to me
i've written over twenty thousand lines of shell code in the past year
i can hardly utter a sentence without using a tla (three letter acronym)
i've administrated on six different types of unix
i know that linux is not a unix

as other parties have stated, there is a flip side to their geekiness

i am a gym junkie
i ride (and eventually crash :p) sportsbikes
i rarely get picked for a geek
does anyone not think their gf is hot? :D

[edit] (i used like instead of commas wtf?)
Actually what ive found is people who truely look geeky are really lazy, and just spend all there time playing games instead of, studying.

[lostreality]

Yeh recently i have been labelled a "geek" by my mates coz I got my redhat cert. I run 2 linux servers at home (proxy/dns/dhcp & fileserver) & im a regular in geek/tech forums such as this.

When i was in school i was labelled a "computer geek", i had to admin the schools computer rooms & such.

Now look at em, most of em are deadshits who didnt even pass yr 12. All the sluts that used to give me shit got preggers & had kids when they were 18, now they sit at home & dream about the life they are never going to have.

i think ill take this to the bitching forums... ;)

yeah i used to get bullied like fuck, i hated everything about school and still do, although i did meet my gf there and we are still together 4 years later which is another reason why i didn't go to uni and took the job offer (which ended - see earlier post blah blah..)

I just want a school reunion just so i can stroll in wearing an armani suit, burn a £50 drop it to the floor and say fuck you all, and walk out with out saying another word.

not that i have any malice towards my former class mates you see.

[evil]

I own the powerbook....I was looking to get a laptop and could think of nothing better than a OS based on BSD and and that has a DVD burner:P

I finally made the jump last month and got a powerbook. I couldn't agree with you more on it being the best OS out there, at least on laptops. The way apple have thrown their own GUI ontop of a kick-ass OS is incredible. I have a better environment than I had with with cygwin on windows, and a machine that runs several times faster than my old Windoze laptop. And emacs actually works properly without hanging all the time ;)

Oh, and for those windoze muppets out there shaking their heads as they read this, I don't play games so why the hell would I need any form of windows?

[Uther Pendragon]

okay lets see if my geek quotient is high enough.

Have a degree in computer science with a specialisation in software engineering
Can cut code in c/c++, java, perl, python, php, shell, asp (under duress).
I have built every computer I have ever owned bar the first one
Have been running Linux full time on my desktop at home for 2 years at least.
The kernel is self compiled
I helped debug the usb-storage driver for linux a couple of months back to get my camera working.
I administer about 15 linux servers at work with help from one other person, as well as doing heaps of development work.
Am a card carrying member of Sage-Au (systems administrators guild of australia)
Played D&D when I was a kid
I like ninjas
I can "speak" smtp via a telnet client pretty fluently. IMAP and pop3 also, but not as well.
I really like physics, but am not smart enough to really understand it all.

[tikdoph]

Played D&D when I was a kid...
You stopped playing???

Sorry, sir... but your membership to the Geek Club is henceforth revoked. :p

[RaZ]

I need not prove anything to you ! :p
Plus bothering to reply proves iot enough that & I was born 1337 ! hehehehe

prove it. Justify to me what it is about you that makes you a geek

[berserk]

If I am good at maths & have an opinion on everything, does that make me a nerd, a geek or a very naughty boy?

[BtrFly]

just because i have a degree in computer science, doesnt mean i am a geek :p ... doesnt mean i am not either...

[Afro88]

I taught myself basic on the C64 when I was 8. I wrote a few crappy little games for that computer, then my family got an Amiga 500. I taught myself AMOS (a very extended version of basic) and wrote a few little games with a mate of mine. I finished 3rd in my IT class in year 11 and 12 at school.

I'm now more of a music geek. I taught myself to program synths and effects, and to write electronic music. I recently taught myself to build instruments and effects from scratch using oscillators, filters, logical operators etc. on my new Nord Modular G2 DSP engine. I spend alot of my free time building instruments and making music with them using this box (and other synths). I also write music with the same mate I used to program games with on the Amiga.

When I'm not doing this, I'm more than likely at uni doing my Music Technology degree, or doing less geeky things like going out, drinking, riding and getting stoned :).

[cyberwired]

I dont feel like a geek anymore :(
I got a p133 at home as a 56k router running slackware 7.1 which I only helped set up but gets 654 hour connection times
I've had a computer in my room since I was 10 and learnt least the basics of basic, c, java, javascript, vb, php, asp, mysql
got a cert in computing, cert in business computing and then I went off the rails and got an adv cert in electronic multimedia (fancy words for graphic design adv cert)
been a web designer for a few years now and now doing php/mysql quite heavily
frequent lanner when I can
last gf I knew online before I new in rl (she did live 3 hours from me and was a gf's friend but yeah :s)
probably because of me almost everyone in our house has a computer which I've set up (my computer, 56k router, 13 yr old bros pc, 18 yr old bros pc which is my old one, 14 yr old bros pc, dads laptop, mum and dads pcs at work)
I was in the laptop class at high school and was on the school web design team or whatever the fk it was
I've thought about putting a computer into the car which will run off an inverter...money stops that dream heh
I get withdrawls if I dont use a computer

that make me a geek? :D

[kré]

i'm nowhere near as geeky as the most of you, it seems, however, i base my geek status on the following:

* i know html and some php and i, along with my wife, run the official site of a former child sitcom star (i built it, she helped design it and organises the content)
* i can install every ms operating system since windows 3.1 blindfolded with both hands tied behind my back and duct tape over my mouth
* i've been gaming since 1983 (when i was 3 years old)
* i still own my atari 2600 and intelivision (and my colecovision is at my cousin's place)
* i got a HD in the westpac maths comp in 1993
* the only mcp test i did, when i was basically forced into doing so by a former employer, was networking essentials and i failed by .5% after doing 3 hours of study
* i am one of the head techs on the helpdesk of one of australia's largest isps
* i can build a pc from pine cones and banana skins (well, from scratch anyway, but...)
* i used to be an @ in one of dalnet's biggest channels (now i'm just grasping at straws...)

now, tell me, do i qualify?

:cool:

[Wolfette13]

I've been friends with Beowulf (a true geek) for about 8 years now, this in itself should qualify me.

[MisterBishi]

Maybe it should do, in your opinion, but I'm afraid it doesnt quite cut it. Leave your pass with the security guard at the gate.

[Afro88]

Neither does posting in this thread without giving mention to any proof you're a geek :P

[MisterBishi]

Neither does posting in this thread without giving mention to any proof you're a geek :P
I'm not writing a list, Afro. Just trust me. I'm not a programmer or a hacker, but I do what I do well, and what I do well is just this. Do you see?

[Aardvark]

I have an evil laugh that causes small children and japanese schoolgirls to quake in fear

I beat you all

I would insert my evil laugh here, but lend itself to text, it does not

[and3w]

No, but I had and created a game for a Sinclair Spectrum!
I'm a geriatrigeek

[pinchy]

Yep.

I've designed and populated the SMD PCB for a dedicated attitude sensor: I've written a kernel for a Ti 320 series DSP, wrote a program for it to update a Xilinx FPGA depending on environmental conditions, pluged a 640x480 CMOS digital camera into it which looked at hyperbolic mirror; all to retrieve attitude from a micro UAV... (effectively make a small helicopter fly on its own)

[The Avatar]

I am a geek becuase I like to resserrect old threads from the past :D

[anothe]

:( im too dumb to be a geek.. im just a nerd

[and3w]

NO...but I am useful in a geek environment cos I like violence and will protect you from all those geek-stalkers out there.
Does that count?
Oh, and I can crack bits & bobs.
Does that count?
And I know my way round XP pretty well.
Does that count?

[Mr Bigglesworth]

Im a reformed geek, still yearning for the fluro coloured shirts, long hair and unix labs of uni. Alas, I am too old for such endeavours.

[DCenT3]

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[and3w]

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01110100011010000010000001100010011100100110000101 100011011001010111001100100000
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I'll take that as a 'YES' then, shall I?

*ticks box*

[jak]

There are 10 types of people in the world, those that understand binary, and those that don't.

[and3w]

jak made a funny!

YAY!

[ewe2]

I bought old commodore 64/128s and external drives and made my own cable to load old c64 games from a pc and play them. Teaching myself commodore basic and assembler, cos I missed out on all that fun in the '80s when I was trying to be a rock star.

[jak]

I still have my C64 and 1541C floppy disk drive. Not to mention my trusty paper clip for shorting pins 1 and 3 (in the expansion port?) to allow some PEEKing and POKEing and thus various cheats.

LOAD"$",8

LOAD"WHO*",8,1

Anyone, care to take a guess at what game I just loaded?

[and3w]

Prince of sodding persia :-)

[loko123]

i am a geek because i get a 95.9 average

[eeefreak]

i paid $400 for my first 2400 Baud modem... and $799 for my first 14.4k modem.

[lectrotext]

I still game

[The Avatar]

i paid $400 for my first 2400 Baud modem... and $799 for my first 14.4k modem.

That doesn't qualify you as a geek, but rather a very very old person!!

I remember paying $100 for a 2400 modem that was 2nd hand. I never even used the bastard, instead just getting a new (and very much faster modem) a few months later.

I still have the 2400, and its in top condition. In a few decades, it will be worth something as a collectors piece!

[Snapple]

I have no traits that make me a geek, but I do have a pair of glasses I use for uni. Glasses are geeky

[and3w]

& cexy :-0

[The Avatar]

Hey, I was about to say that!!!

I love a chick with glasses!! It gives me wood.

[beowulf437]

Wow, thread necromancy.
My first program was for the TI-55 calculator, it was a simple high/low guessing game.

http://www.datamath.org/Sci/MAJESTIC/TI-55.htm

My next couple of programs were written on a Heath H89 computer while I was in college (university).

http://www.betuwe.net/~mellemab/homecomputers/other.html

One was a text based adventure game where you answered yes/no questions to escape a dungeon, stuff like grab the torch, go through the door, go up the stairs. You could wander around for a hour, but once you knew the way out it took about 10 minutes.

The second game was a little more complex. You had to rescue a drifting spaceship in three dimensional space. Since I didn't know how to do graphics I just had a numeric output, speed, fuel mass, attitude, distance to target, direction of target. You told the ship to point a certain way and to fire the engine a number of seconds. The real trick was as mass decreased delta V would increase.

I graduated in 1981 with a degree in electrical engineering. Since then I have programed PLCs, PALs, and EPROMS. Once as a joke I swapped out a coworkers test prom with one I programed that would display on the moniter "This Board Is Fucked UP". He thought it was funny but the customer nearly shit his pants.

I find soldering relaxing. I still do boolean equations in my head. For fun I devise encryption schemes.

[and3w]

When I was about 12 I got bought a Heath kit stereo by my dad and he helped me build it..no 'puter, but it was still fun..Heath were da bomb in those days :-)

[beowulf437]

When I was about 12 I got bought a Heath kit stereo by my dad and he helped me build it..no 'puter, but it was still fun..Heath were da bomb in those days :-)

Yes they were. I still have one of these that works.

http://www.heathkit-museum.com/test/o-11.shtml

[and3w]

Cool site! Unfortunately, I cannot see the model we had..it was an actual "record player" (:-)) rather than an amp or pre-amp, and was in a wood veneer finish, with a smoked perspex flip-up lid! It also used transistors, rather than the valves most of these seem to show. But it was one of the few things I did with my dad that I remember being both enjoyable and interesting. Was probably around 1970 -1973 time scale.
I bet yours does still work too, as I remember getting a little bag of 'replacement' transistors& diodes etc, and they were pretty tough bits of kit if you had built & done the soldering well, in the first place. I know mine got a lot of stick (I remember playing Alice Coopers 'Billion Dollar Babies' album on it..gives some idea of the time) as I did not realise the volume could go down below 10!
:-)

[ewe2]

For fun I devise encryption schemes.


Heh. I get more fun from breaking them. I almost considered inventing my own until Applied Cryptography came out and dashed 4 ideas. You wouldn't believe the XOR schemes still masquerading as strong crypto tho...